Time Nick Message 02:19 mtompset rangi++ # mentioning Nanuvut :) 03:01 mtompset @later tell Joubu I'm trying to test 20757 and the patch seems to work, but I'm having to get the selenium tests to run smoothly period. 03:01 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:01 mtompset @later tell Joubu I'm trying to test 20757 and the patch seems to work, but I'm having trouble getting the selenium tests to run smoothly period. 03:01 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 06:20 fridolin hie there 06:39 reiveune hello 06:41 * andreashm waves 06:45 alex_a bonjour 06:45 andreashm salut alex_a 07:19 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 07:23 calire hi tuxayo 07:25 gaetan_B hello 07:43 ashimema mornin' 07:50 magnuse kia ora ashimema 08:02 cait morning #koha 08:12 magnuse kia ora cait and sophie_m 08:17 sophie_m hello magnuse 08:35 cait good morning magnuse :) 08:36 cait looking at some old bugs 08:36 cait can bug 9749 be closed? 08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9749 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Placeholders in koha-conf.xml generated by the Debian packages 08:47 magnuse cait: no, i think that is still relevant 08:48 cait needs more info then :) 08:49 cait the koha-conf.xml on my devbox is alright 08:49 cait ony placeholders are in commened sections as Robin pointed out 08:50 magnuse ah, ok 08:57 magnuse looking at one of my oldest sites that is true there too, all placeholders are in commented section, so maybe it can be closed after all 09:05 * magnuse CLOSED WONTFIX'ed it 09:05 magnuse cait++ for doing archeology 09:19 cait sorry for bothering you :) 09:28 magnuse cait++ for bothering 09:29 magnuse @karma 09:29 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "Joubu" (643), "cait" (564), and "tcohen" (353). Lowest karma: "failed" (-37), "-" (-36), and "ie" (-35). You (magnuse) are ranked 15 out of 829. 09:35 drojf ie-- 09:42 cait drojf - 2 days in a row! :D 09:42 cait ie-- 09:49 tuxayo Hi cait, Follow up about documenting after the release things like upgrade times, needed disk space, failure causes [1] 09:49 tuxayo Technical issues lead to most of the discussion not being in the meeting log. 09:49 tuxayo So can we (I) create a wiki page for such issues? 09:49 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_11_April_2018#Where_to_share_feedback.2Finfo.2Ftips_about_upgrades.3F 10:03 drojf wow fridolin really loves RMainting :) 10:03 fridolin indeed 10:03 fridolin i like beeing a star 10:03 drojf you are! 10:42 ashimema nice one fridolin 10:43 ashimema any hints of tips greatfully recieved ;) 10:45 fridolin i will do minium on 17.05.x but il will be useful it security release occures 10:47 tuxayo _oftc_ashimema[m]: there are a lot of people still on 17.05 https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences 10:47 tuxayo Are your customers among these? 11:49 oleonard Hi all 11:54 oleonard_ Okay that wasn't ideal. 11:54 * oleonard_ 's Windows blue-screened 12:06 ashimema _oftc_tuxayo[m]: We have a real mix of versions tuxayo 12:06 ashimema but likely not many are on hea.. I never really did manage to sell it to them enough for them all to enrole 12:19 cait fridolin++ 12:22 tuxayo _oftc_ashimema[m]: We have it very minimally for most clients (sysprefs, country, no name), it was done opt-out with a notification to explain how it works. 12:22 tuxayo And we didn't hear about any issue about this strategy. 12:22 tuxayo Reporting at least the version is important because that's what motivated Fridolin to continue RMaint-ing the 17.05 12:23 marcelr hi #koha 12:26 cait hi marcelr 12:26 marcelr o/ 12:26 cait do you have time to qa 2 patches maybe? 12:27 marcelr im doing one 12:27 marcelr no not more 12:27 cait then 20706 please 12:27 cait the other would have been 19862 (2 minute thing) 12:27 marcelr no i am doing 20724 12:28 marcelr critical.. 12:28 wahanui hmmm... critical is higher. 12:28 cait help links is critical too - have to ask people because i wrote them 12:28 cait but the holds one is good too 12:29 cait thx 12:29 marcelr 20706 is already pqa 12:33 cait ah great, i think imissed it 12:33 cait kidclamp++ thx 12:36 * oleonard hands out all his votes for everyone to redistribute as needed during the meeting 12:36 marcelr something funny in master; i edit items and the search results column in staff says No items but when I click edit items, they are there 12:36 cait hm? 12:37 cait marcelr: is the record indexed yet? 12:37 marcelr i reindexed twice i think 12:37 marcelr and with the daemon it should be very fast 12:38 cait hm can't replicate right now 12:38 cait was ist a new record? 12:38 marcelr no existing 12:40 cait i tried both, the item shows up immediately for me 12:41 marcelr cait: yet another reindex now resolves it ?? 12:41 marcelr strange stuff 12:42 cait maybe a problem with indexing related to your data/setup 12:42 cait devbox appears ok 12:42 marcelr let´s say it is the data, than it is not master ;) 12:50 * LeeJ waves 12:50 LeeJ hi #koha 12:52 cait hi LeeJ :) 12:52 LeeJ hi cait! 12:52 LeeJ cait: I just merged bernardo's request 12:53 cait cool :) 12:54 caroline Good morning everyone! 12:54 cait hi caroline 12:55 * kidclamp waves 12:57 LeeJ cait: and yours too now :) 12:57 cait thx 12:57 cait marcelr++ 12:57 cait i wanted to give it a try, but glad you are looking at this bug now 12:57 * andreashm waves 12:58 andreashm meeting soon? 12:59 barton andreashm: yep. 13:00 kidclamp #startmeeting General IRC meeting 16 May 2018 13:00 huginn Meeting started Wed May 16 13:00:18 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018' 13:00 kidclamp #topic Introductions 13:00 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 13:00 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe 13:00 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, BYWater Solutions 13:00 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 13:00 LeeJ #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University 13:00 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy 13:00 andreashm #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library 13:01 barton #info Barton Chittenden, bws 13:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 13:01 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 13:01 cc__ #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe 13:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 13:01 mng #info Mengu Yazicioglu, Devinim, Turkey 13:01 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 13:02 kidclamp #topic Announcements 13:02 kidclamp anyone? 13:02 wahanui hmmm... anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) 13:03 kidclamp Joubu? 13:03 wahanui Joubu is dealing with 40 patches to push but waiting for answers on some of the reports 13:03 kidclamp RMaints? 13:03 wahanui well, RMaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 13:03 kidclamp QAteam? 13:03 kidclamp QA_team? 13:03 wahanui i heard QA_team was alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec 13:03 tcohen morning 13:03 LeeJ I got something from docs team :) 13:03 cait only a few patches tagged with release_candidate_18_05 now 13:03 cait we are almost there 13:03 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi 13:04 LeeJ documentation team is currently in the middle of a docs sprint for 18.05 13:04 kidclamp go ahead LeeJ 13:04 kidclamp :-) 13:04 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 13:04 kidclamp #info documentation team is currently in the middle of a docs sprint for 18.05 13:04 kidclamp should people contact you/cait if they want to help? 13:04 tcohen LeeJ++ 13:04 LeeJ certainly :) 13:05 cait better LeeJ :) 13:05 cait but if around willing to help of course where I can 13:05 kidclamp #info contact LeeJ (or cait) if you want to help 13:05 kidclamp anyone else? 13:05 cait LeeJ and davidnind filled a Taiga with a ton of documentation tasks ready to be grabbed 13:05 LeeJ :D 13:06 kidclamp link cait? 13:06 LeeJ one sec.. 13:06 LeeJ https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epic/6 13:06 fridolin "info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre France 13:06 cait #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805 Taiga for documentation 13:07 kidclamp #chari cait 13:07 kidclamp #chair cait 13:07 huginn Current chairs: cait kidclamp 13:08 kidclamp anyone else ffor announcements? 13:08 tcohen here 13:08 kidclamp go for it 13:09 tcohen I want to start some conversation about the official docker image for 18.05 13:09 tcohen people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact me 13:09 kidclamp +1 13:09 khall \O/ 13:09 kidclamp #info tochen wants to start discussion on official docker image for 18.05 13:09 kidclamp #info people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact me 13:09 kidclamp #info people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact him 13:09 cait heh 13:10 kidclamp #topic Update on releases 13:11 kidclamp is 16.11 being maintained? I think it is done? 13:11 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 13:11 Joubu (soooory) 13:11 cait i think rangi said last meeting that it was retired now 13:11 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre 13:11 tuxayo #info Victor Grousset, Biblibre France 13:11 kidclamp 17.05 updates frido? 13:11 fridolin yep 13:11 fridolin I reverted Bug 20234 13:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20234 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Make maintenance scripts use koha-zebra instead of koha-*-zebra 13:12 fridolin sorry for that i missed the dependancy, will be in this release 13:12 fridolin i hope it did not much pain 13:12 Joubu I do not think you should backport the deps 13:12 kidclamp #info bug 20234 reverted, dependency had been missed, frido apologizes, we forgive him 13:13 fridolin the deps ? 13:13 wahanui the deps are a pain 13:13 bag #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater 13:13 Joubu the koha-zebra scripts 13:13 fridolin the patches on debian you mean 13:13 Joubu but we can talk about that later 13:13 fridolin oki 13:14 kidclamp #info kidclamp is pushing more stuffs to 17.11, if you have any priorities or corrections let him know 13:14 kidclamp that's all form me^ 13:14 kidclamp Mr RM? 13:14 kidclamp updates for 18.05 13:15 Joubu please watch the 18.05_candidate list 13:15 Joubu focus must be on these ones 13:16 Joubu criticals have been fixed it seems 13:16 Joubu so, it should be ready on time. 13:16 kidclamp #info please watch 18_05 candidate list and focus efforts there 13:17 cait #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&list_id=240302&namedcmd=rel_18_05_candidate tagged for release 13:17 Joubu So please test the release candidate, a rc2 is planned for the next few days 13:17 kidclamp cait++ 13:17 kidclamp #info rc2 planned in next few days 13:17 Joubu nothing else from me 13:17 marcelr link does not work cait 13:17 cait Joubu: do we have a link for release notes too? 13:17 cait misplaced it 13:18 cait marcelr: maybe permissions sec 13:18 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md 13:18 Joubu maybe I will include them for the rc2 13:18 cait #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=240312&namedcmd=rel_18_05_candidate&remaction=run&sharer_id=13 alternate 13:19 andreashm That works nicely 13:19 marcelr thats better 13:19 kidclamp #link https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md Prelim release notes 13:20 kidclamp #topic Elections for 18.11 release 13:20 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11 Roles for 18.11 13:21 kidclamp any discussion? 13:21 LeeJ no complaints 13:21 kidclamp vote on the whole shebang? 13:21 cait just a fridolin++ 13:21 marcelr yes 13:21 cait ok 13:21 LeeJ sure 13:21 BobB yes please 13:21 thd +1 13:21 fridolin thanks a lot 13:22 kidclamp #startvote Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11? 13:22 huginn Begin voting on: Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11? Valid vote options are Yes, No. 13:22 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 13:22 thd #vote Yes 13:22 mng #vote Yes 13:22 drojf #vote Yes 13:22 fridolin feel free to make a putch ;) 13:22 BobB #vote Yes 13:22 LeeJ #vote Yes 13:22 * ashimema just hopes he can do half as good a job of RMaint as previous maints. 13:22 cait #vote yes 13:22 andreashm #vote Yes 13:22 fridolin putsch 13:22 barton #vote Yes 13:22 marcelr #vote Yes 13:22 cc__ #vote Yes 13:22 fridolin #vote yes 13:23 barton ha! (fridolin) 13:23 caroline #vote yes 13:23 khall #vote Yes 13:23 ashimema #vote Yes 13:23 Joubu #vote yes 13:23 kidclamp #vote Yes 13:23 tuxayo #vote Yes 13:24 jajm #vote yes 13:24 tuxayo _oftc_ashimema[m]: too late 13:24 kidclamp last call 13:24 tuxayo the net is on you 13:24 kidclamp #endvote 13:24 huginn Voted on "Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11?" Results are 13:25 kidclamp #info results unanimous, roles accepted 13:25 bag #vote yes 13:25 kidclamp khall wasn't on QA list, do we need a formal vote to add him? 13:25 cait can I suggest adding kidclamp as module maintainer for elasticsearch befor he has a chance to escape? 13:25 bag (too slow) 13:25 kidclamp or can I start abusing my powers and just appoint him 13:25 cait heh 13:25 tuxayo cait++ 13:25 LeeJ I doubt anyone here expects khall to NOT be on QA list 13:26 cait ah maybe rm and elasticsearch is unfair,... didn't think about the new powers :) 13:26 Joubu #info next RM already is abusing his powers 13:26 LeeJ whoops wrong phrasing xD 13:26 khall Lol 13:26 ashimema there's always one bag ;) 13:26 LeeJ everyone expects him to be :P 13:26 cait khall: put yourself on the wiki now or I will have to stop sending you my lovely crafted emails ;) 13:26 drojf is huginn still doing calculations? 13:27 drojf it ends with "results are" for me 13:27 * khall does not remember when he was not on the qa team 13:27 kidclamp I put him in and added me for module maint - if anyone has complaints please speak now and we cna vote 13:27 kidclamp otherwise your acceptance is assumed 13:27 LeeJ no complaints! 13:27 andreashm we accept oh dear leader. =) 13:27 khall Can do cait! 13:27 * ashimema thought that a while ago then suddenly realised he'd let it slip when he went to do a qa ;) 13:27 marcelr there he is 13:28 kidclamp #info khall added to QA team kidclamp for ES maint - if you desire a vote post on next meeting :-b 13:28 tuxayo hail kidclamp 13:28 fridolin our code is ours dear leader ;) 13:28 andreashm hehe 13:28 LeeJ hail! 13:28 BobB droif, me too 13:29 kidclamp [off] have I made a terrible mistake? 13:29 kidclamp :-D 13:29 fridolin 42 13:29 cait [off] we are not going to tell you 13:29 andreashm this turned out to be an interesting meeting. =) 13:29 kidclamp #topic Next meeting 13:30 kidclamp June 13, 20UTC? 13:31 cait usually first week i tihnk 13:31 cait june 6th? 13:31 kidclamp ah, I ws going 1 month, first week better 13:31 kidclamp June 6th 20 UTC 13:31 thd +1 13:31 caroline +1 13:32 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 6 June 2018, 20:00 UTC 13:32 LeeJ kidclamp++ 13:32 kidclamp #endmeeting 13:32 huginn Meeting ended Wed May 16 13:32:27 2018 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 13:32 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.html 13:32 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.txt 13:32 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.log.html 13:32 tuxayo _o< quack! 13:32 wahanui !bang 13:33 cait kidclamp++ 13:33 BobB good night folks 13:33 bag kidclamp++ 13:33 cait good night BobB! 13:33 cait ah too slow 13:33 kidclamp Joubu++ 13:33 fridolin kidclamp++ ashimema++ 13:33 andreashm kidclamp++ 13:33 kidclamp ashimema++ 13:33 kidclamp fridolin++ 13:33 LeeJ everyone++ 13:33 kidclamp koha++ 13:34 cait now back to work! :P 13:34 andreashm or icecream. whichever you prefer. 13:36 kidclamp Joubu++ 13:37 tcohen kidclamp++ 13:37 tcohen Joubu++ 13:37 tcohen cait++ 13:37 tcohen koha++ 13:37 tcohen :-D 13:47 marcelr Joubu: 20724 is for you 13:49 Joubu marcelr: yep, thanks. What about $holds_to_place_count? 13:49 Joubu I do not remember checking that 13:49 marcelr i think it is a theoretical problem only 13:49 Joubu ok, I will double check 13:49 Joubu I think I will move the update DB entry to its own bug report 13:50 marcelr you can 13:50 marcelr it is very simple query 13:50 marcelr just to have something 13:54 Joubu marcelr: yes, at first glance, then you note that date_add is a mysqlis 13:55 Joubu as well as now, that should be cast as date 13:55 marcelr yeah i was afraid so 13:55 marcelr couldnt find it in updatedatabase but it is in the codebase still 13:57 Joubu marcelr: what about ReservesMaxPickUpDelay? 13:57 marcelr delay to expire? 13:58 Joubu the maximum delay 13:58 marcelr yeah this is a pragmatic approach 13:58 marcelr we need something in that date 13:58 marcelr and this will not hurt people 13:59 Joubu there are also ExpireReservesOnHolidays and ExcludeHolidaysFromMaxPickUpDelay, but will be hard with sql queries only... 13:59 marcelr see commit msg no holidays 13:59 marcelr thats why i started with now instead of waitingdate 14:00 Joubu marcelr: maybe we need an alert and a script then? 14:01 marcelr you could copy 12063 again but then you have Koha objects in a dbrev 14:01 Joubu well, that's why I wanted to move it to its own bug :) 14:01 marcelr no problem 14:01 marcelr but then it will probably not reach the release 14:05 Joubu cait: bug 19014, did they test the patch? 14:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future 14:27 oleonard So no one signed me up for anything during the meeting? 14:29 tuxayo oleonard: do you want to RMaint 17.05 ? 14:30 oleonard No thank you :) 14:50 marcelr bye 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20724: (QA follow-up) Remove two obsolete comment lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88ac8c499f878a1c0ac622d53742a3d9acea1f64> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Fix bad HTML link to help file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92ac27b7b2b91ff9003bde41c21a19a002be778c> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Adds en language code to the links to the manual <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c1092396a520f6784bbcc45b3d3e251864336ca> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Add tests for ReservesNeedReturns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6dc6b23ccb26e18c437a578b4e20174ee1ea58> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Move the ReservesNeedReturns logic to AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1798d22e764bebf46e2915e1c0b7c3360ea8dd51> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Correctly mark an hold as waiting - ReservesNeedReturns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c585f1149770ec401f188e061211501897cec0bf> 15:29 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Fixes the links to the manual to reflect chanced chapter file names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=554642ae75042a1565dbdc9044b6f614db218a55> 15:42 tuxayo cait still around? 15:48 tuxayo kidclamp: around? 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for documentation team <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1c7f5ede60ef63f5da969ff8495675248e50102> 16:23 Joubu jenkins? 16:23 wahanui jenkins is probably https://jenkins.koha-community.org 16:24 Joubu tcohen: jenkins left, do you know why? 16:28 Joubu paxed: Please add release notes to bug 11674 16:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Configuration for MARC field doc URLs 16:28 Joubu oleonard: Please add release notes to bug 15922 16:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15922 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show authorized value description in staff client search results for lost, withdrawn, and damaged 16:29 Joubu khall: Please add release notes to bug 18791 16:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add the ability for librarians to easily copy, download or print DataTables based tables in Koha 16:58 tcohen Joubu: I can take a look 16:59 Joubu tcohen: master is failing with a new error, not related to the last push, weird 16:59 Joubu ho, there is a ".pm.pm" 17:02 tcohen Joubu: someone else is using the jenkins nickname on OFTC 17:23 tuxayo lol 17:39 caroline LeeJ: do you still have the link to the "style guide" cait mentionned the other day? 17:40 LeeJ caroline: sure one sec.. 17:40 LeeJ caroline: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks 17:40 caroline LeeJ: thanks! 17:40 LeeJ caroline: I'll be updating it a bit after I get some work finished 17:41 caroline oh, it doesn't answer my question ^_^;; 17:41 LeeJ caroline: what's your question? 17:41 caroline Do you know what the rules are for wrapping the lines? 17:41 caroline I use vim 17:42 LeeJ caroline: so your workflow is via command line? 17:42 caroline yes 17:42 LeeJ :O 17:42 caroline I know! 17:42 LeeJ I didn't know of anyone who had been lol 17:43 LeeJ caroline: my suggestion would be use existing entries as a vertical guide as to where to wrap 17:43 LeeJ if that makes sense 17:43 caroline 6 months ago, I would never have thought I would be working in command line lol! 17:43 caroline yes, it does. That's what I've been doing, but I was wondering if there was a rule 17:44 LeeJ we haven't had one but we'll probably add one in the future 17:44 LeeJ I'd actually love for you to improve the "Editing the manual" for the command line section because cait and I had been struggling with it last release :) 17:45 caroline I'll have to find a text editor to wrap the lines for me when we have a rule 17:45 LeeJ caroline: try looking here..this might help http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Automatic_word_wrapping 17:46 caroline Ok, I'll try to add to the wiki for command line. I still have to ask my colleagues how to do git stuff like pulling from a different remote though 17:46 caroline thank you for the link! 17:47 LeeJ caroline: sure! once that section gets updated I might start doing it as well :) 17:47 caroline I will work on the wiki after we get our taiga tasks down a little bit 17:48 LeeJ caroline: that's excellent :) my focus is certainly on the taiga work first :) 17:48 caroline yes, especially this week! ;) 17:48 LeeJ tell me about it! haha 18:26 oleonard Bye all 18:26 LeeJ caroline: I'm heading out..if you need anything just send an email :) 18:31 caroline Are there any librarians in the house? I have a MARC question 18:31 caroline MARC21 to be precise 18:39 tcohen has anyone included t::t inside a perl script? I mean, without using an external .tt file? 18:47 caroline Or maybe a dev can answer my MARC question... Do you know if the 942 field is mandatory for Koha to run? I tried deleting it, but my zebra_rebuild gave me error. As far as I know, 942 is just a record-level version of 952 which is the item-level. 18:48 caroline If all the information is in 952, would 942 be redundant? 18:48 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.50 pasted "khall" (171 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/48 18:55 Joubu tcohen: take a look at C4::Letters::_process_tt 18:56 Joubu yes, what you pasted 18:56 tcohen thanks, Joubu 18:56 wahanui somebody said thanks, Joubu was going to update the wiki page to remove the confusion 21:25 cait Joubu: haven't read the long comment on bug 19014 yet 21:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future 21:25 cait is is urgent? 21:27 cait @later tell LeeJ also working on command line, pushing up, then creating the merge request in the gitlab gui :) 21:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 21:28 cait caroline: you can set 942 to not mandatory 21:28 cait caroline: some features like article requests and some hold scnearios use it 21:29 cait but for our libraries it's usually empty because of our union catalog workflow 22:02 caroline cait: thanks! (sorry, I hadn't seen your message before) 22:03 caroline cait: is it super late in Germany now? It must be the middle of the night? 22:04 cait just around midnight 22:04 cait i am an owl kind of person :) 22:06 caroline :) 22:07 caroline LeeJ and I were wondering earlier if there is a rule for wrapping when we work in the .rst files 22:14 caroline Well, I must go, but I'm sure we'll talk later about it! ;)