Time  Nick        Message
02:19 mtompset    rangi++ # mentioning Nanuvut :)
03:01 mtompset    @later tell Joubu I'm trying to test 20757 and the patch seems to work, but I'm having to get the selenium tests to run smoothly period.
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03:01 mtompset    @later tell Joubu I'm trying to test 20757 and the patch seems to work, but I'm having trouble getting the selenium tests to run smoothly period.
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06:20 fridolin    hie there
06:39 reiveune    hello
06:41 * andreashm waves
06:45 alex_a      bonjour
06:45 andreashm   salut alex_a
07:19 tuxayo      hi #koha o/
07:23 calire      hi tuxayo
07:25 gaetan_B    hello
07:43 ashimema    mornin'
07:50 magnuse     kia ora ashimema
08:02 cait        morning #koha
08:12 magnuse     kia ora cait and sophie_m
08:17 sophie_m    hello magnuse
08:35 cait        good morning magnuse :)
08:36 cait        looking at some old bugs
08:36 cait        can bug 9749 be closed?
08:36 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9749 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Placeholders in koha-conf.xml generated by the Debian packages
08:47 magnuse     cait: no, i think that is still relevant
08:48 cait        needs more info then :)
08:49 cait        the koha-conf.xml on my devbox is alright
08:49 cait        ony placeholders are in commened sections as Robin pointed out
08:50 magnuse     ah, ok
08:57 magnuse     looking at one of my oldest sites that is true there too, all placeholders are in commented section, so maybe it can be closed after all
09:05 * magnuse   CLOSED WONTFIX'ed it
09:05 magnuse     cait++ for doing archeology
09:19 cait        sorry for bothering you :)
09:28 magnuse     cait++ for bothering
09:29 magnuse     @karma
09:29 huginn      magnuse: Highest karma: "Joubu" (643), "cait" (564), and "tcohen" (353).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-37), "-" (-36), and "ie" (-35).  You (magnuse) are ranked 15 out of 829.
09:35 drojf       ie--
09:42 cait        drojf - 2 days in a row! :D
09:42 cait        ie--
09:49 tuxayo      Hi cait, Follow up about documenting after the release things like upgrade times, needed disk space, failure causes [1]
09:49 tuxayo      Technical issues lead to most of the discussion not being in the meeting log.
09:49 tuxayo      So can we (I) create a wiki page for such issues?
09:49 tuxayo      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_11_April_2018#Where_to_share_feedback.2Finfo.2Ftips_about_upgrades.3F
10:03 drojf       wow fridolin really loves RMainting :)
10:03 fridolin    indeed
10:03 fridolin    i like beeing a star
10:03 drojf       you are!
10:42 ashimema    nice one fridolin
10:43 ashimema    any hints of tips greatfully recieved ;)
10:45 fridolin    i will do minium on 17.05.x but il will be useful it security release occures
10:47 tuxayo      _oftc_ashimema[m]: there are a lot of people still on 17.05 https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences
10:47 tuxayo      Are your customers among these?
11:49 oleonard    Hi all
11:54 oleonard_   Okay that wasn't ideal.
11:54 * oleonard_ 's Windows blue-screened
12:06 ashimema    _oftc_tuxayo[m]: We have a real mix of versions tuxayo
12:06 ashimema    but likely not many are on hea.. I never really did manage to sell it to them enough for them all to enrole
12:19 cait        fridolin++
12:22 tuxayo      _oftc_ashimema[m]: We have it very minimally for most clients (sysprefs, country, no name), it was done opt-out with a notification to explain how it works.
12:22 tuxayo      And we didn't hear about any issue about this strategy.
12:22 tuxayo      Reporting at least the version is important because that's what motivated Fridolin to continue RMaint-ing the 17.05
12:23 marcelr     hi #koha
12:26 cait        hi marcelr
12:26 marcelr     o/
12:26 cait        do you have time to qa 2 patches maybe?
12:27 marcelr     im doing one
12:27 marcelr     no not more
12:27 cait        then 20706 please
12:27 cait        the other would have been 19862 (2 minute thing)
12:27 marcelr     no i am doing 20724
12:28 marcelr     critical..
12:28 wahanui     hmmm... critical is higher.
12:28 cait        help links is critical too - have to ask people because i wrote them
12:28 cait        but the holds one is good too
12:29 cait        thx
12:29 marcelr     20706 is already pqa
12:33 cait        ah great, i think imissed it
12:33 cait        kidclamp++ thx
12:36 * oleonard  hands out all his votes for everyone to redistribute as needed during the meeting
12:36 marcelr     something funny in master; i edit items and the search results column in staff says No items but when I click edit items, they are there
12:36 cait        hm?
12:37 cait        marcelr: is the record indexed yet?
12:37 marcelr     i reindexed twice i think
12:37 marcelr     and with the daemon it should be very fast
12:38 cait        hm can't replicate right now
12:38 cait        was ist a new record?
12:38 marcelr     no existing
12:40 cait        i tried both, the item shows up immediately for me
12:41 marcelr     cait: yet another reindex now resolves it ??
12:41 marcelr     strange stuff
12:42 cait        maybe a problem with indexing related to your data/setup
12:42 cait        devbox appears ok
12:42 marcelr     let´s say it is the data, than it is not master ;)
12:50 * LeeJ      waves
12:50 LeeJ        hi #koha
12:52 cait        hi LeeJ :)
12:52 LeeJ        hi cait!
12:52 LeeJ        cait: I just merged bernardo's request
12:53 cait        cool :)
12:54 caroline    Good morning everyone!
12:54 cait        hi caroline
12:55 * kidclamp  waves
12:57 LeeJ        cait: and yours too now :)
12:57 cait        thx
12:57 cait        marcelr++
12:57 cait        i wanted to give it a try, but glad you are looking at this bug now
12:57 * andreashm waves
12:58 andreashm   meeting soon?
12:59 barton      andreashm: yep.
13:00 kidclamp    #startmeeting General IRC meeting 16 May 2018
13:00 huginn      Meeting started Wed May 16 13:00:18 2018 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:00 huginn      Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:00 huginn      The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018'
13:00 kidclamp    #topic Introductions
13:00 wahanui     #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
13:00 ashimema    #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe
13:00 kidclamp    #info Nick Clemens, BYWater Solutions
13:00 caroline    #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
13:00 LeeJ        #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University
13:00 marcelr     #info Marcel de Rooy
13:00 andreashm   #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library
13:01 barton      #info Barton Chittenden, bws
13:01 BobB        #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia
13:01 thd         #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:01 cc__        #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe
13:01 cait        #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
13:01 mng         #info Mengu Yazicioglu, Devinim, Turkey
13:01 drojf       #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
13:02 kidclamp    #topic Announcements
13:02 kidclamp    anyone?
13:02 wahanui     hmmm... anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
13:03 kidclamp    Joubu?
13:03 wahanui     Joubu is dealing with 40 patches to push but waiting for answers on some of the reports
13:03 kidclamp    RMaints?
13:03 wahanui     well, RMaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11)
13:03 kidclamp    QAteam?
13:03 kidclamp    QA_team?
13:03 wahanui     i heard QA_team was alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec
13:03 tcohen      morning
13:03 LeeJ        I got something from docs team :)
13:03 cait        only a few patches tagged with release_candidate_18_05 now
13:03 cait        we are almost there
13:03 tcohen      #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
13:04 LeeJ        documentation team is currently in the middle of a docs sprint for 18.05
13:04 kidclamp    go ahead LeeJ
13:04 kidclamp    :-)
13:04 khall       #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:04 kidclamp    #info documentation team is currently in the middle of a docs sprint for 18.05
13:04 kidclamp    should people contact you/cait if they want to help?
13:04 tcohen      LeeJ++
13:04 LeeJ        certainly :)
13:05 cait        better LeeJ :)
13:05 cait        but if around willing to help of course where I can
13:05 kidclamp    #info contact LeeJ (or cait) if you want to help
13:05 kidclamp    anyone else?
13:05 cait        LeeJ and davidnind filled a Taiga with a ton of documentation tasks ready to be grabbed
13:05 LeeJ        :D
13:06 kidclamp    link cait?
13:06 LeeJ        one sec..
13:06 LeeJ        https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epic/6
13:06 fridolin    "info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre France
13:06 cait        #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805 Taiga for documentation
13:07 kidclamp    #chari cait
13:07 kidclamp    #chair cait
13:07 huginn      Current chairs: cait kidclamp
13:08 kidclamp    anyone else ffor announcements?
13:08 tcohen      here
13:08 kidclamp    go for it
13:09 tcohen      I want to start some conversation about the official docker image for 18.05
13:09 tcohen      people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact me
13:09 kidclamp    +1
13:09 khall       \O/
13:09 kidclamp    #info tochen wants to start discussion on official docker image for 18.05
13:09 kidclamp    #info people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact me
13:09 kidclamp    #info people with docker experience AND interested on contributing ideas, please contact him
13:09 cait        heh
13:10 kidclamp    #topic Update on releases
13:11 kidclamp    is 16.11 being maintained? I think it is done?
13:11 Joubu       #info Jonathan Druart
13:11 Joubu       (soooory)
13:11 cait        i think rangi said last meeting that it was retired now
13:11 fridolin    #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre
13:11 tuxayo      #info Victor Grousset, Biblibre France
13:11 kidclamp    17.05 updates frido?
13:11 fridolin    yep
13:11 fridolin    I reverted  Bug 20234
13:11 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20234 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Make maintenance scripts use koha-zebra instead of koha-*-zebra
13:12 fridolin    sorry for that i missed the dependancy, will be in this release
13:12 fridolin    i hope it did not much pain
13:12 Joubu       I do not think you should backport the deps
13:12 kidclamp    #info bug 20234 reverted, dependency had been missed, frido apologizes, we forgive him
13:13 fridolin    the deps ?
13:13 wahanui     the deps are a pain
13:13 bag         #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater
13:13 Joubu       the koha-zebra scripts
13:13 fridolin    the patches on debian you mean
13:13 Joubu       but we can talk about that later
13:13 fridolin    oki
13:14 kidclamp    #info kidclamp is pushing more stuffs to 17.11, if you have any priorities or corrections let him know
13:14 kidclamp    that's all form me^
13:14 kidclamp    Mr RM?
13:14 kidclamp    updates for 18.05
13:15 Joubu       please watch the 18.05_candidate list
13:15 Joubu       focus must be on these ones
13:16 Joubu       criticals have been fixed it seems
13:16 Joubu       so, it should be ready on time.
13:16 kidclamp    #info please watch 18_05 candidate list and focus efforts there
13:17 cait        #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&list_id=240302&namedcmd=rel_18_05_candidate tagged for release
13:17 Joubu       So please test the release candidate, a rc2 is planned for the next few days
13:17 kidclamp    cait++
13:17 kidclamp    #info rc2 planned in next few days
13:17 Joubu       nothing else from me
13:17 marcelr     link does not work cait
13:17 cait        Joubu: do we have a link for release notes too?
13:17 cait        misplaced it
13:18 cait        marcelr: maybe permissions sec
13:18 Joubu       https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md
13:18 Joubu       maybe I will include them for the rc2
13:18 cait        #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=240312&namedcmd=rel_18_05_candidate&remaction=run&sharer_id=13 alternate
13:19 andreashm   That works nicely
13:19 marcelr     thats better
13:19 kidclamp    #link https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md Prelim release notes
13:20 kidclamp    #topic Elections for 18.11 release
13:20 kidclamp    #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11 Roles for 18.11
13:21 kidclamp    any discussion?
13:21 LeeJ        no complaints
13:21 kidclamp    vote on the whole shebang?
13:21 cait        just a fridolin++
13:21 marcelr     yes
13:21 cait        ok
13:21 LeeJ        sure
13:21 BobB        yes please
13:21 thd         +1
13:21 fridolin    thanks a lot
13:22 kidclamp    #startvote Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11?
13:22 huginn      Begin voting on: Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
13:22 huginn      Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
13:22 thd         #vote Yes
13:22 mng         #vote Yes
13:22 drojf       #vote Yes
13:22 fridolin    feel free to make a putch ;)
13:22 BobB        #vote Yes
13:22 LeeJ        #vote Yes
13:22 * ashimema  just hopes he can do half as good a job of RMaint as previous maints.
13:22 cait        #vote yes
13:22 andreashm   #vote Yes
13:22 fridolin    putsch
13:22 barton      #vote Yes
13:22 marcelr     #vote Yes
13:22 cc__        #vote Yes
13:22 fridolin    #vote yes
13:23 barton      ha! (fridolin)
13:23 caroline    #vote yes
13:23 khall       #vote Yes
13:23 ashimema    #vote Yes
13:23 Joubu       #vote yes
13:23 kidclamp    #vote Yes
13:23 tuxayo      #vote Yes
13:24 jajm        #vote yes
13:24 tuxayo      _oftc_ashimema[m]: too late
13:24 kidclamp    last call
13:24 tuxayo      the net is on you
13:24 kidclamp    #endvote
13:24 huginn      Voted on "Should we accept the roles for 18.11 as proposed on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11?" Results are
13:25 kidclamp    #info results unanimous, roles accepted
13:25 bag         #vote yes
13:25 kidclamp    khall wasn't on QA list, do we need a formal vote to add him?
13:25 cait        can I suggest adding kidclamp as module maintainer for elasticsearch befor he has a chance to escape?
13:25 bag         (too slow)
13:25 kidclamp    or can I start abusing my powers and just appoint him
13:25 cait        heh
13:25 tuxayo      cait++
13:25 LeeJ        I doubt anyone here expects khall to NOT be on QA list
13:26 cait        ah maybe rm and elasticsearch is unfair,... didn't think about the new powers :)
13:26 Joubu       #info next RM already is abusing his powers
13:26 LeeJ        whoops wrong phrasing xD
13:26 khall       Lol
13:26 ashimema    there's always one bag ;)
13:26 LeeJ        everyone expects him to be :P
13:26 cait        khall: put yourself on the wiki now or I will have to stop sending you my lovely crafted emails ;)
13:26 drojf       is huginn still doing calculations?
13:27 drojf       it ends with "results are" for me
13:27 * khall     does not remember when he was not on the qa team
13:27 kidclamp    I put him in and added me for module maint - if anyone has complaints please speak now and we cna vote
13:27 kidclamp    otherwise your acceptance is assumed
13:27 LeeJ        no complaints!
13:27 andreashm   we accept oh dear leader. =)
13:27 khall       Can do cait!
13:27 * ashimema  thought that a while ago then suddenly realised he'd let it slip when he went to do a qa ;)
13:27 marcelr     there he is
13:28 kidclamp    #info khall added to QA team kidclamp for ES maint - if you desire a vote post on next meeting :-b
13:28 tuxayo      hail kidclamp
13:28 fridolin    our code is ours dear leader ;)
13:28 andreashm   hehe
13:28 LeeJ        hail!
13:28 BobB        droif, me too
13:29 kidclamp    [off] have I made a terrible mistake?
13:29 kidclamp    :-D
13:29 fridolin    42
13:29 cait        [off] we are not going to tell you
13:29 andreashm   this turned out to be an interesting meeting. =)
13:29 kidclamp    #topic Next meeting
13:30 kidclamp    June 13, 20UTC?
13:31 cait        usually first week i tihnk
13:31 cait        june 6th?
13:31 kidclamp    ah, I ws going 1 month, first week better
13:31 kidclamp    June 6th 20 UTC
13:31 thd         +1
13:31 caroline    +1
13:32 kidclamp    #info Next meeting: 6 June 2018, 20:00 UTC
13:32 LeeJ        kidclamp++
13:32 kidclamp    #endmeeting
13:32 huginn      Meeting ended Wed May 16 13:32:27 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
13:32 huginn      Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.html
13:32 huginn      Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.txt
13:32 huginn      Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_16_may_2018.2018-05-16-13.00.log.html
13:32 tuxayo      _o< quack!
13:32 wahanui     !bang
13:33 cait        kidclamp++
13:33 BobB        good night folks
13:33 bag         kidclamp++
13:33 cait        good night BobB!
13:33 cait        ah too slow
13:33 kidclamp    Joubu++
13:33 fridolin    kidclamp++ ashimema++
13:33 andreashm   kidclamp++
13:33 kidclamp    ashimema++
13:33 kidclamp    fridolin++
13:33 LeeJ        everyone++
13:33 kidclamp    koha++
13:34 cait        now back to work! :P
13:34 andreashm   or icecream. whichever you prefer.
13:36 kidclamp    Joubu++
13:37 tcohen      kidclamp++
13:37 tcohen      Joubu++
13:37 tcohen      cait++
13:37 tcohen      koha++
13:37 tcohen      :-D
13:47 marcelr     Joubu: 20724 is for you
13:49 Joubu       marcelr: yep, thanks. What about $holds_to_place_count?
13:49 Joubu       I do not remember checking that
13:49 marcelr     i think it is a theoretical problem only
13:49 Joubu       ok, I will double check
13:49 Joubu       I think I will move the update DB entry to its own bug report
13:50 marcelr     you can
13:50 marcelr     it is very simple query
13:50 marcelr     just to have something
13:54 Joubu       marcelr: yes, at first glance, then you note that date_add is a mysqlis
13:55 Joubu       as well as now, that should be cast as date
13:55 marcelr     yeah i was afraid so
13:55 marcelr     couldnt find it in updatedatabase but it is in the codebase still
13:57 Joubu       marcelr: what about ReservesMaxPickUpDelay?
13:57 marcelr     delay to expire?
13:58 Joubu       the maximum delay
13:58 marcelr     yeah this is a pragmatic approach
13:58 marcelr     we need something in that date
13:58 marcelr     and this will not hurt people
13:59 Joubu       there are also ExpireReservesOnHolidays and ExcludeHolidaysFromMaxPickUpDelay, but will be hard with sql queries only...
13:59 marcelr     see commit msg no holidays
13:59 marcelr     thats why i started with now instead of waitingdate
14:00 Joubu       marcelr: maybe we need an alert and a script then?
14:01 marcelr     you could copy 12063 again but then you have Koha objects in a dbrev
14:01 Joubu       well, that's why I wanted to move it to its own bug :)
14:01 marcelr     no problem
14:01 marcelr     but then it will probably not reach the release
14:05 Joubu       cait: bug 19014, did they test the patch?
14:05 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future
14:27 oleonard    So no one signed me up for anything during the meeting?
14:29 tuxayo      oleonard: do you want to RMaint 17.05 ?
14:30 oleonard    No thank you :)
14:50 marcelr     bye
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20724: (QA follow-up) Remove two obsolete comment lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88ac8c499f878a1c0ac622d53742a3d9acea1f64>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Fix bad HTML link to help file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92ac27b7b2b91ff9003bde41c21a19a002be778c>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Adds en language code to the links to the manual <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c1092396a520f6784bbcc45b3d3e251864336ca>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Add tests for ReservesNeedReturns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6dc6b23ccb26e18c437a578b4e20174ee1ea58>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Move the ReservesNeedReturns logic to AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1798d22e764bebf46e2915e1c0b7c3360ea8dd51>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20724: Correctly mark an hold as waiting - ReservesNeedReturns <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c585f1149770ec401f188e061211501897cec0bf>
15:29 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20706: Fixes the links to the manual to reflect chanced chapter file names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=554642ae75042a1565dbdc9044b6f614db218a55>
15:42 tuxayo      cait still around?
15:48 tuxayo      kidclamp: around?
16:15 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for documentation team <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1c7f5ede60ef63f5da969ff8495675248e50102>
16:23 Joubu       jenkins?
16:23 wahanui     jenkins is probably https://jenkins.koha-community.org
16:24 Joubu       tcohen: jenkins left, do you know why?
16:28 Joubu       paxed: Please add release notes to bug 11674
16:28 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Configuration for MARC field doc URLs
16:28 Joubu       oleonard: Please add release notes to bug 15922
16:28 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15922 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show authorized value description in staff client search results for lost, withdrawn, and damaged
16:29 Joubu       khall: Please add release notes to bug 18791
16:29 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add the ability for librarians to easily copy, download or print DataTables based tables in Koha
16:58 tcohen      Joubu: I can take a look
16:59 Joubu       tcohen: master is failing with a new error, not related to the last push, weird
16:59 Joubu       ho, there is a ".pm.pm"
17:02 tcohen      Joubu: someone else is using the jenkins nickname on OFTC
17:23 tuxayo      lol
17:39 caroline    LeeJ: do you still have the link to the "style guide" cait mentionned the other day?
17:40 LeeJ        caroline: sure one sec..
17:40 LeeJ        caroline: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks
17:40 caroline    LeeJ: thanks!
17:40 LeeJ        caroline: I'll be updating it a bit after I get some work finished
17:41 caroline    oh, it doesn't answer my question ^_^;;
17:41 LeeJ        caroline: what's your question?
17:41 caroline    Do you know what the rules are for wrapping the lines?
17:41 caroline    I use vim
17:42 LeeJ        caroline: so your workflow is via command line?
17:42 caroline    yes
17:42 LeeJ        :O
17:42 caroline    I know!
17:42 LeeJ        I didn't know of anyone who had been lol
17:43 LeeJ        caroline: my suggestion would be use existing entries as a vertical guide as to where to wrap
17:43 LeeJ        if that makes sense
17:43 caroline    6 months ago, I would never have thought I would be working in command line lol!
17:43 caroline    yes, it does. That's what I've been doing, but I was wondering if there was a rule
17:44 LeeJ        we haven't had one but we'll probably add one in the future
17:44 LeeJ        I'd actually love for you to improve the "Editing the manual" for the command line section because cait and I had been struggling with it last release :)
17:45 caroline    I'll have to find a text editor to wrap the lines for me when we have a rule
17:45 LeeJ        caroline: try looking here..this might help http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Automatic_word_wrapping
17:46 caroline    Ok, I'll try to add to the wiki for command line. I still have to ask my colleagues how to do git stuff like pulling from a different remote though
17:46 caroline    thank you for the link!
17:47 LeeJ        caroline: sure! once that section gets updated I might start doing it as well :)
17:47 caroline    I will work on the wiki after we get our taiga tasks down a little bit
17:48 LeeJ        caroline: that's excellent :) my focus is certainly on the taiga work first :)
17:48 caroline    yes, especially this week! ;)
17:48 LeeJ        tell me about it! haha
18:26 oleonard    Bye all
18:26 LeeJ        caroline: I'm heading out..if you need anything just send an email :)
18:31 caroline    Are there any librarians in the house? I have a MARC question
18:31 caroline    MARC21 to be precise
18:39 tcohen      has anyone included t::t inside a perl script? I mean, without using an external .tt file?
18:47 caroline    Or maybe a dev can answer my MARC question... Do you know if the 942 field is mandatory for Koha to run? I tried deleting it, but my zebra_rebuild gave me error. As far as I know, 942 is just a record-level version of 952 which is the item-level.
18:48 caroline    If all the information is in 952, would 942 be redundant?
18:48 pastebot    "tcohen" at 172.22.66.50 pasted "khall" (171 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/48
18:55 Joubu       tcohen: take a look at C4::Letters::_process_tt
18:56 Joubu       yes, what you pasted
18:56 tcohen      thanks, Joubu
18:56 wahanui     somebody said thanks, Joubu was going to update the wiki page to remove the confusion
21:25 cait        Joubu: haven't read the long comment on bug 19014 yet
21:25 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future
21:25 cait        is is urgent?
21:27 cait        @later tell LeeJ also working on command line, pushing up, then creating the merge request in the gitlab gui :)
21:27 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
21:28 cait        caroline: you can set 942 to not mandatory
21:28 cait        caroline: some features like article requests and some hold scnearios use it
21:29 cait        but for our libraries it's usually empty because of our union catalog workflow
22:02 caroline    cait: thanks! (sorry, I hadn't seen your message before)
22:03 caroline    cait: is it super late in Germany now? It must be the middle of the night?
22:04 cait        just around midnight
22:04 cait        i am an owl kind of person :)
22:06 caroline    :)
22:07 caroline    LeeJ and I were wondering earlier if there is a rule for wrapping when we work in the .rst files
22:14 caroline    Well, I must go, but I'm sure we'll talk later about it! ;)