Time  Nick       Message
22:30 mtompset   But the context may be important to confining it to just a serial.
22:29 mtompset   caroline_, I am not a librarian. Terminology confounds me too. However, my guess it is anything that you could check in or out. So, a book, CD, serial, or whatever.
21:22 caroline_  If it's a checkout, in what case would a checkout not be checked out?
21:21 caroline_  Is it a serial or a checkout?
21:20 caroline_  14                     [% CASE 'not_checked_out_yet' %]Do not forget that the issue has not been checked out yet.
21:20 caroline_  13                     [% CASE 'not_checked_in_yet' %]Do not forget that the issue has not been checked in yet.
21:20 caroline_  in preview_letter.tt, lines 13 and 14, what does "issue" refer to?
21:16 cait       good night #koha
20:31 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Circulation code to the Koha namespace
20:31 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Reserves code to the Koha namespace
20:31 Joubu      I have started already, bug 17728 and bug 17677
20:31 davbo      CanBook only returns the last CanItem return value which can be confusing
20:30 * Joubu    is not answering the question anyway...
20:30 cait       will be fun to move those one day :(
20:29 Joubu      and so we never know why something is not possible
20:29 Joubu      the CanBook* CanItem* and IsAvailableatitemleveblablaba subroutines have useless return values
20:28 davbo      Ok thanks, I'll keep looking and ask tomorrow if needed
20:28 Joubu      well the main problem, I think, is that this code is hard to understand and touch
20:26 cait       i think there is some logic to the display now, just don't know how it exactly works, maybe worth checking before
20:26 wahanui    it has been said that next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
20:26 cait       next meetings?
20:26 cait       maybe also at the dev meeting tomorrow? might give you some opinions
20:26 cait       you could ask the mailing list
20:25 cait       good question
20:24 davbo      Where would the best place to discuss this be? irc, mail list or should I open a Bugzilla?
20:24 cait       i am not 100% how it currently works either
20:23 cait       using the default default doesn't appear right to me
20:23 cait       i just think logic would need some discussion
20:21 davbo      right?
20:21 davbo      Right, but that could still be done in a centalized CanBookBeReserved (or equivalent Koha:: code) function
20:20 cait       logic could be improved, but i think displaying the link is better
20:20 cait       or don't show the option and people will have to be taught to log in first
20:20 cait       i think it's a question of usability, offer the option and then allow login
20:20 davbo      Or have a syspref to select the "no patron" behavior for the "place hold" button
20:19 davbo      Can place a hold if you are not a patron anyway
20:19 davbo      If non is found, simply default on no "place hold" button
20:19 cait       i don't think that woudl give you the correct result
20:19 davbo      I would apply the default circ_rule for (all patron, all branches)
20:18 cait       what patron category and homebranch would you use?
20:18 cait       I don't think it works that way currently
20:18 davbo      no logged-in user as borrowernumber = 0. You can still apply circulation rules to that "anonymous patron" no?
20:16 cait       there would be on borrowernumber
20:11 davbo      What value does $borrowernumber take if there is no logged in user?
20:09 cait       maybe to display the link even when people ar enot logged in
20:09 cait       i know - but people :)
20:09 davbo      Does anyone know why "opac-detail.pl" and "opac-search.pl" results don't use "CanBookBeReserved" to check wether to show the "Place Hold" button?
19:58 Joubu      there is the agenda ;)
19:57 cait       can someone send a meeting reminder for tomorrow, plz?
18:45 oleonard   Bye all
18:32 mtompset   I've commented. It was very beautiful syntax highlighting in the other cases.
18:30 oleonard   Okay, I'll work on it.
18:27 mtompset   oleonard, the show isn't working. :(
18:26 * mtompset gets sad.
18:20 mtompset   So pretty.
18:20 mtompset   It's full of stars!
18:19 * magnuse  cheers
18:18 mtompset   Okay... let's try this...
18:17 mtompset   DOH!
18:17 mtompset   Serves me right for not reading closely!
18:16 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor
18:16 mtompset   Commented on bug 20260. Hope I make sense. :)
18:15 oleonard   To what are you referring?
18:14 mtompset   And if this is adding something, shouldn't there be an about change referencing license or use or something?
18:14 mtompset   oleonard, you have an Asset reference to a file you didn't include.
18:12 mtompset   Never heard of it... you know me an new fangled frameworks and technology. :)
18:10 oleonard   Have you used CodeMirror before mtompset?
18:08 mtompset   oleonard, sorry to make you pine more over your CSS to SCSSlmnop bug. I signed off your datepicker formating bug. :)
18:07 mtompset   Can't we all use vi? ;)
18:07 mtompset   Code Mirror?
17:58 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor
17:58 oleonard   Bug 20260
17:28 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20730 is not accessible.
17:28 Joubu      [off] please take a look at bug 20730
17:18 mtompset   NICE! tcohen, a new vagrantup come out (2.1.0) and it seems to have rectified my NFS issues. :)
16:26 mtompset   I'm going for lunch first, then testing the upload... I'll PM you once I'm done. :)
16:24 khall      Remind me if I forget 😁
16:24 khall      Sure can!
16:24 mtompset   Do an actual MARC upload.
16:24 mtompset   But I supposed I technically have one more test left. :)
16:23 mtompset   Then he could sign off mine, and mark passed QA. ;)
16:23 mtompset   khall, are you are on the QA team?
16:23 cait       yes
16:22 mtompset   Kyle, are you on the QA team? :)
16:21 * mtompset replies, "<blink>happy</blink>"
16:20 * oleonard converts all layouts to use multiple nested tables, spacer gifs, and <font> tags
16:18 mtompset   web technologies are scary. I want my HTML 2. :)
16:18 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS
16:18 oleonard   Every time I submit a patch with changes to staff-global.css Bug 19474 glares at me.
16:14 mtompset   Then lunch!
16:14 mtompset   I'll push up my tiny tweak, and sign off. :)
16:11 mtompset   tcohen++ # yes! misc4dev script does make them. :) Thanks. :)
16:10 mtompset   tells me it isn't a valid parameter, because of line 463 has no upload-tmp-path parameter. :)
16:09 mtompset   But it doesn't work. :(
16:09 mtompset   No problem... I was just razzing you.
16:09 khall      sorry!
16:09 khall      hmm, wonder what I did wrong... maybe it was previous testing cruft that let it work : \
16:09 mtompset   No, I'm talking about debian/scripts/koha-create line 463.
16:08 tcohen     line 65
16:08 huginn     mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:08 mtompset   @later tell khall Bad Kyle. You missed a test case. Did you even try to koha-create with --upload-tmp-path? Someone forgot a tweak! ;)
16:07 tcohen     mtompset: misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl does that I think
16:07 huginn     mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <khall> hmm, that's odd. let me re-test
16:07 mtompset   @seen khall
16:06 mtompset   ah... okay, how do I generate man pages?
16:06 tcohen     you are talking about documentation and the way we generate man pages
16:06 tcohen     mtompset: you are mixing things
16:06 mtompset   I was just wondering if that directory is out of date now.
16:06 mtompset   there was a debian/docs/koha-create.xml tweak.
16:05 mtompset   20428
16:02 wahanui    TF is that?
16:02 tcohen     TF?
16:01 mtompset   I thought we had switched to sphnix for documentation.
16:01 mtompset   tcohen, are we still using docbook?
15:28 Joubu      yes
15:28 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Run tests on a separate database
15:28 tcohen     does it really depend on bug 19821?
15:27 tcohen     Joubu: I am testing it
15:15 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Web installer and onboarding tool selenium test
15:15 Joubu      I'd like bug 19185 for 18.05
15:02 khall      hmm, that's odd. let me re-test
14:59 oleonard   I do not. Not as a superlibrarian, not as a regular user
14:58 khall      oleonard: yes, that is correct
14:58 wahanui    the trouble is it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields
14:58 khall      oleonard: what's the trouble?
14:58 oleonard   After adding a staff list should I have three tabs, Your lists, Public lists, and Staff lists?
14:57 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to have lists that are available to all list editors
14:57 oleonard   I'm testing Bug 20718 and having trouble
14:57 khall      what's up oleonard ?
14:56 oleonard   khall around?
14:52 oleonard   He's taking a good long look.
14:51 huginn     tcohen: jajm was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <jajm> cait, looking at it now
14:51 tcohen     @seen jajm
14:38 oleonard   jajm around?
14:32 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20428 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , MARC import fails on Debian Stretch
14:32 tcohen     bug 20428 is a major for the next release
14:13 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20672 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Acquisitions part 3
14:13 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Acquisitions part 2
14:13 oleonard   mtompset: If you want some easy signoffs: Bug 20668 and Bug 20672
14:05 mtompset   No promises, but maybe.
14:05 mtompset   oleonard, it's soooo huge. ;)
14:04 dersmon    ah, i did not allocate money to the fund, only to the parent budget
13:54 cait       oh, are they in an active budget?
13:54 dersmon    wait, let me double check again
13:54 wahanui    it has been said that which version is recommended?
13:54 cait       which version?
13:54 cait       hm
13:54 dersmon    i am the owner for atleast one
13:54 cait       dersmon: maybe you don't have permission for them
13:53 dersmon    i am struggling to add a new title to my basket, koha always tells me i have to add budgets/funds first even though there are several budgets defined
13:53 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19709 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Labels
13:52 * oleonard tries again with Bug 19709
13:49 * mtompset frowns, "I'm 6 behind."
13:36 mtompset   Greetings, dersmon
13:33 wahanui    bidet, dersmon
13:33 dersmon    hi
13:23 mtompset   Sorry for the distraction.
13:22 mtompset   Nope... finally made sense of it.
13:22 Joubu      mtompset: no question then?
13:20 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20722 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Searching only for an ITEMTYPECAT itemtype is impossible
13:20 mtompset   Re-read it again and again... I think I got the testing plan for bug 20722
13:19 wahanui    want are the steps I need to perform for the portuguese installation
13:19 Joubu      want?
13:18 Joubu      you
13:18 Joubu      do
13:18 Joubu      what
13:18 mtompset   Oh well. It should be easy to test, but exact steps are not clear. :( On to next thing to attempt.
13:17 * mtompset sighs.
13:16 huginn     mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 8 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Joubu> maybe?
13:16 mtompset   @seen Joubu
13:16 huginn     mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 52 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <cait> tuesday--
13:16 mtompset   @seen cait
13:16 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
13:11 magnuse    soooo... is it possible to get an extended patron attribute into the patronselfregistration form?
11:39 wahanui    hi dear loon
11:39 calire     hi oleonard
11:36 eythian    hi oleopard
11:35 oleonard   Hi #koha
10:37 tcohen     November 2015
10:36 tcohen     when did we do the plack out-of-the-box move?
10:24 eythian    hi tcohen
10:14 tcohen     morning
09:31 eythian    of course, the good weather only lasts until Wednesday.
09:31 eythian    If it's any consolation, it feels like Thursday because I have actual Thursday and Friday off work.
09:24 cait       tuesday--
05:50 magnuse    \o/
03:25 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha