Time Nick Message 03:25 mtompset Have a great day, #koha 05:50 magnuse \o/ 09:24 cait tuesday-- 09:31 eythian If it's any consolation, it feels like Thursday because I have actual Thursday and Friday off work. 09:31 eythian of course, the good weather only lasts until Wednesday. 10:14 tcohen morning 10:24 eythian hi tcohen 10:36 tcohen when did we do the plack out-of-the-box move? 10:37 tcohen November 2015 11:35 oleonard Hi #koha 11:36 eythian hi oleopard 11:39 calire hi oleonard 11:39 wahanui hi dear loon 13:11 magnuse soooo... is it possible to get an extended patron attribute into the patronselfregistration form? 13:16 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:16 mtompset @seen cait 13:16 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 52 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <cait> tuesday-- 13:16 mtompset @seen Joubu 13:16 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 8 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Joubu> maybe? 13:17 * mtompset sighs. 13:18 mtompset Oh well. It should be easy to test, but exact steps are not clear. :( On to next thing to attempt. 13:18 Joubu what 13:18 Joubu do 13:18 Joubu you 13:19 Joubu want? 13:19 wahanui want are the steps I need to perform for the portuguese installation 13:20 mtompset Re-read it again and again... I think I got the testing plan for bug 20722 13:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20722 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Searching only for an ITEMTYPECAT itemtype is impossible 13:22 Joubu mtompset: no question then? 13:22 mtompset Nope... finally made sense of it. 13:23 mtompset Sorry for the distraction. 13:33 dersmon hi 13:33 wahanui bidet, dersmon 13:36 mtompset Greetings, dersmon 13:49 * mtompset frowns, "I'm 6 behind." 13:52 * oleonard tries again with Bug 19709 13:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19709 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Labels 13:53 dersmon i am struggling to add a new title to my basket, koha always tells me i have to add budgets/funds first even though there are several budgets defined 13:54 cait dersmon: maybe you don't have permission for them 13:54 dersmon i am the owner for atleast one 13:54 cait hm 13:54 cait which version? 13:54 wahanui it has been said that which version is recommended? 13:54 dersmon wait, let me double check again 13:54 cait oh, are they in an active budget? 14:04 dersmon ah, i did not allocate money to the fund, only to the parent budget 14:05 mtompset oleonard, it's soooo huge. ;) 14:05 mtompset No promises, but maybe. 14:13 oleonard mtompset: If you want some easy signoffs: Bug 20668 and Bug 20672 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Acquisitions part 2 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20672 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Acquisitions part 3 14:32 tcohen bug 20428 is a major for the next release 14:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20428 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , MARC import fails on Debian Stretch 14:38 oleonard jajm around? 14:51 tcohen @seen jajm 14:51 huginn tcohen: jajm was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <jajm> cait, looking at it now 14:52 oleonard He's taking a good long look. 14:56 oleonard khall around? 14:57 khall what's up oleonard ? 14:57 oleonard I'm testing Bug 20718 and having trouble 14:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to have lists that are available to all list editors 14:58 oleonard After adding a staff list should I have three tabs, Your lists, Public lists, and Staff lists? 14:58 khall oleonard: what's the trouble? 14:58 wahanui the trouble is it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields 14:58 khall oleonard: yes, that is correct 14:59 oleonard I do not. Not as a superlibrarian, not as a regular user 15:02 khall hmm, that's odd. let me re-test 15:15 Joubu I'd like bug 19185 for 18.05 15:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Web installer and onboarding tool selenium test 15:27 tcohen Joubu: I am testing it 15:28 tcohen does it really depend on bug 19821? 15:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Run tests on a separate database 15:28 Joubu yes 16:01 mtompset tcohen, are we still using docbook? 16:01 mtompset I thought we had switched to sphnix for documentation. 16:02 tcohen TF? 16:02 wahanui TF is that? 16:05 mtompset 20428 16:06 mtompset there was a debian/docs/koha-create.xml tweak. 16:06 mtompset I was just wondering if that directory is out of date now. 16:06 tcohen mtompset: you are mixing things 16:06 tcohen you are talking about documentation and the way we generate man pages 16:06 mtompset ah... okay, how do I generate man pages? 16:07 mtompset @seen khall 16:07 huginn mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <khall> hmm, that's odd. let me re-test 16:07 tcohen mtompset: misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl does that I think 16:08 mtompset @later tell khall Bad Kyle. You missed a test case. Did you even try to koha-create with --upload-tmp-path? Someone forgot a tweak! ;) 16:08 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 16:08 tcohen line 65 16:09 mtompset No, I'm talking about debian/scripts/koha-create line 463. 16:09 khall hmm, wonder what I did wrong... maybe it was previous testing cruft that let it work : \ 16:09 khall sorry! 16:09 mtompset No problem... I was just razzing you. 16:09 mtompset But it doesn't work. :( 16:10 mtompset tells me it isn't a valid parameter, because of line 463 has no upload-tmp-path parameter. :) 16:11 mtompset tcohen++ # yes! misc4dev script does make them. :) Thanks. :) 16:14 mtompset I'll push up my tiny tweak, and sign off. :) 16:14 mtompset Then lunch! 16:18 oleonard Every time I submit a patch with changes to staff-global.css Bug 19474 glares at me. 16:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS 16:18 mtompset web technologies are scary. I want my HTML 2. :) 16:20 * oleonard converts all layouts to use multiple nested tables, spacer gifs, and <font> tags 16:21 * mtompset replies, "<blink>happy</blink>" 16:22 mtompset Kyle, are you on the QA team? :) 16:23 cait yes 16:23 mtompset khall, are you are on the QA team? 16:23 mtompset Then he could sign off mine, and mark passed QA. ;) 16:24 mtompset But I supposed I technically have one more test left. :) 16:24 mtompset Do an actual MARC upload. 16:24 khall Sure can! 16:24 khall Remind me if I forget 😠16:26 mtompset I'm going for lunch first, then testing the upload... I'll PM you once I'm done. :) 17:18 mtompset NICE! tcohen, a new vagrantup come out (2.1.0) and it seems to have rectified my NFS issues. :) 17:28 Joubu [off] please take a look at bug 20730 17:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20730 is not accessible. 17:58 oleonard Bug 20260 17:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor 18:07 mtompset Code Mirror? 18:07 mtompset Can't we all use vi? ;) 18:08 mtompset oleonard, sorry to make you pine more over your CSS to SCSSlmnop bug. I signed off your datepicker formating bug. :) 18:10 oleonard Have you used CodeMirror before mtompset? 18:12 mtompset Never heard of it... you know me an new fangled frameworks and technology. :) 18:14 mtompset oleonard, you have an Asset reference to a file you didn't include. 18:14 mtompset And if this is adding something, shouldn't there be an about change referencing license or use or something? 18:15 oleonard To what are you referring? 18:16 mtompset Commented on bug 20260. Hope I make sense. :) 18:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor 18:17 mtompset Serves me right for not reading closely! 18:17 mtompset DOH! 18:18 mtompset Okay... let's try this... 18:19 * magnuse cheers 18:20 mtompset It's full of stars! 18:20 mtompset So pretty. 18:26 * mtompset gets sad. 18:27 mtompset oleonard, the show isn't working. :( 18:30 oleonard Okay, I'll work on it. 18:32 mtompset I've commented. It was very beautiful syntax highlighting in the other cases. 18:45 oleonard Bye all 19:57 cait can someone send a meeting reminder for tomorrow, plz? 19:58 Joubu there is the agenda ;) 20:09 davbo Does anyone know why "opac-detail.pl" and "opac-search.pl" results don't use "CanBookBeReserved" to check wether to show the "Place Hold" button? 20:09 cait i know - but people :) 20:09 cait maybe to display the link even when people ar enot logged in 20:11 davbo What value does $borrowernumber take if there is no logged in user? 20:16 cait there would be on borrowernumber 20:18 davbo no logged-in user as borrowernumber = 0. You can still apply circulation rules to that "anonymous patron" no? 20:18 cait I don't think it works that way currently 20:18 cait what patron category and homebranch would you use? 20:19 davbo I would apply the default circ_rule for (all patron, all branches) 20:19 cait i don't think that woudl give you the correct result 20:19 davbo If non is found, simply default on no "place hold" button 20:19 davbo Can place a hold if you are not a patron anyway 20:20 davbo Or have a syspref to select the "no patron" behavior for the "place hold" button 20:20 cait i think it's a question of usability, offer the option and then allow login 20:20 cait or don't show the option and people will have to be taught to log in first 20:20 cait logic could be improved, but i think displaying the link is better 20:21 davbo Right, but that could still be done in a centalized CanBookBeReserved (or equivalent Koha:: code) function 20:21 davbo right? 20:23 cait i just think logic would need some discussion 20:23 cait using the default default doesn't appear right to me 20:24 cait i am not 100% how it currently works either 20:24 davbo Where would the best place to discuss this be? irc, mail list or should I open a Bugzilla? 20:25 cait good question 20:26 cait you could ask the mailing list 20:26 cait maybe also at the dev meeting tomorrow? might give you some opinions 20:26 cait next meetings? 20:26 wahanui it has been said that next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 20:26 cait i think there is some logic to the display now, just don't know how it exactly works, maybe worth checking before 20:28 Joubu well the main problem, I think, is that this code is hard to understand and touch 20:28 davbo Ok thanks, I'll keep looking and ask tomorrow if needed 20:29 Joubu the CanBook* CanItem* and IsAvailableatitemleveblablaba subroutines have useless return values 20:29 Joubu and so we never know why something is not possible 20:30 cait will be fun to move those one day :( 20:30 * Joubu is not answering the question anyway... 20:31 davbo CanBook only returns the last CanItem return value which can be confusing 20:31 Joubu I have started already, bug 17728 and bug 17677 20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Reserves code to the Koha namespace 20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move C4::Circulation code to the Koha namespace 21:16 cait good night #koha 21:20 caroline_ in preview_letter.tt, lines 13 and 14, what does "issue" refer to? 21:20 caroline_ 13 [% CASE 'not_checked_in_yet' %]Do not forget that the issue has not been checked in yet. 21:20 caroline_ 14 [% CASE 'not_checked_out_yet' %]Do not forget that the issue has not been checked out yet. 21:21 caroline_ Is it a serial or a checkout? 21:22 caroline_ If it's a checkout, in what case would a checkout not be checked out? 22:29 mtompset caroline_, I am not a librarian. Terminology confounds me too. However, my guess it is anything that you could check in or out. So, a book, CD, serial, or whatever. 22:30 mtompset But the context may be important to confining it to just a serial.