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23:46 rangi its just a flag, wether the item is a serial or not, when you add a subscription to a biblio, it flips that to 1, its either on or off
23:45 talljoy :D
23:45 talljoy i've pinged khall to investigate on my behalf. benefit 1 - he's been around koha a while 2- he know git well.
23:44 talljoy git would know.
23:43 wizzyrea git would probably know
23:42 talljoy i had a library ask about the 942$s biblio.serial flag
23:42 wizzyrea those are fun.
23:42 talljoy ha. thankfully no!
23:42 wizzyrea oh are you migrating out of a 2.0
23:41 indradg yeah... i only started on Koha from 2.2
23:39 talljoy curious tag. i suspect it is a deprecated tag. i need to find someone from koha 2.0 days
23:37 indradg talljoy, not that i can recall
23:36 talljoy indradg, have you ever seen the 942$s (serial flag) in use?
23:35 indradg :)
23:34 talljoy hiya indradg
23:33 * indradg waves at talljoy
22:35 talljoy hi cait
22:30 talljoy hi koha
22:03 davidnind right, better get back to work! see you all later...
22:02 davidnind clintD++
22:01 davidnind for sharing digital collections: http://omeka.org/classic/
22:00 clintD Omeka is a repository for digital resources
22:00 davidnind and, one which I'll see how it works is 5) help with any questions: will resort to posting to mailing list if I can't readily find an answer
21:59 cait1 sadly i have no idea about what omeka exactly does
21:59 cait1 i like how you picked up questions
21:59 davidnind also item 4) in plan - encourage participation, for example remind about meetings, highlight how community members can contribute such as translation, manual, sign-off, etc
21:58 huginn cait1: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:58 cait1 @later LeeJ Bug 20565 - Clearer documentation of date, branches, itemtypes and categorycode parameters in 'Create report from SQL' help page
21:57 davidnind wizzyrea: agree!
21:57 wizzyrea cool :)
21:57 davidnind Jonathan has the full account login details, will get him to check if I can't change this in TweetDeck
21:57 caroline if someone sends a dm and never gets an answer, it might not look good
21:57 wizzyrea just in twitter.
21:56 wizzyrea DM's are like email.
21:56 caroline it may be because it's not always monitored?
21:56 wizzyrea (until such time as it is say, attracting harassment. Which it probably won't.)
21:56 davidnind will check the tweetdeck manual and test it out this evening
21:56 wizzyrea I don't feel like the community twitter should have DM's turned off
21:55 cait1 email will work :)
21:55 cait1 hm i think dm might be turned off
21:54 davidnind cait1: I hope that will work, have access to the kohails account using tweetdeck.twitter.com
21:52 cait1 well direct message
21:52 davidnind will add this to social media plan page I intend to add to wiki, to get some initial feedback
21:52 cait1 would you also receive a pm to kohails?
21:52 caroline +1
21:52 wizzyrea can also send via twitter eh, by tagging in @kohails
21:52 davidnind happy for people to send me stuff - david dot nind at gmail dot com
21:51 davidnind will share this on my git lab account in the next day or two
21:51 davidnind have started a list of things I can monitor, including the IRC channel
21:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server
21:50 jenkins Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20123: (follow-up) Mock timezone in t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t
21:50 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #430: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/430/
21:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
21:50 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:50 cait1 what would be the best way?
21:50 cait1 if we wanted to make you aware of something
21:50 davidnind caroline: #kohails, search for koha + library, community members and support providers (twitter, websites, etc), mailing list
21:50 cait1 excellent plan
21:49 caroline davidnind where do you get the info? hashtag kohails?
21:49 davidnind 3) help with learning about Koha: features, tips, useful resources to get the most out of Koha (the manual will certainly help here)
21:48 davidnind 2) raising awareness (new Koha libraries, usage, case studies, etc)
21:47 davidnind I hope it will help - my initial 'plan' is to focus on 1) sharing what's happening in the community (events, meetings, etc)
21:46 cait1 it's good to see that changed
21:46 cait1 there is a lot of buzz from other projects in library space and we have been very quiet
21:45 cait1 I think you do very well
21:45 davidnind cait++ should have thought of that!
21:45 davidnind cait1: :-[, just learning my way at the moment with Twitter - trying not to post too much - there is a lot happening around the world with Koha
21:45 clintD thank you cait, got that
21:44 cait1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiwH7-wO2Gs
21:44 cait1 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
21:43 cait1 hm
21:43 cait1 editing manual?
21:43 cait1 page
21:43 cait1 it's on the editing the manual?
21:42 clintD ok, thank you
21:42 davidnind I think LeeJ had an earlier video he recorded, will find the link for this if I can and send it to you
21:42 davidnind it wasn't ClintD, hopefully LeeJ's updates to wiki page should help. I'm sure he'd be happy to do a quick walk through for you.
21:41 cait1 davidnind++ # awesome job on twitter, wiki and everywhere
21:40 clintD davidnind was the doc webinar recorded anywhere?
21:39 davidnind have a great day/evening everyone!
21:39 Joubu bye #koha
21:39 LeeJ alright! Time to head home then log back in at some point! :D
21:38 LeeJ thank you for coming caroline
21:38 caroline Thanks LeeJ
21:38 LeeJ davidnind++
21:38 davidnind LeeJ++
21:38 LeeJ thank you all for coming
21:38 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-21.02.log.html
21:38 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-21.02.txt
21:38 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-21.02.html
21:38 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 21:38:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
21:38 LeeJ #endmeeting
21:38 LeeJ thank you Joubu :)
21:38 Joubu #info Next meeting: 9 May 2018, 21 UTC
21:37 LeeJ #topic Set time of next meeting
21:37 LeeJ okay
21:37 Joubu yes
21:37 LeeJ so it'll be 14 UTC for dev?
21:37 caroline may 9 works for me
21:37 Joubu so that's fine
21:37 Joubu but before, like today actually
21:36 Joubu will be a dev meeting
21:36 LeeJ May 9th then?
21:36 LeeJ hmm
21:36 LeeJ oh dear
21:36 Joubu It will be a Friday
21:35 LeeJ so then how about next meeting same day same time next month?
21:35 LeeJ ah ok
21:35 cait1 22
21:35 Joubu May 22th
21:35 LeeJ Joubu: is the 18.05 release around May 28th?
21:34 LeeJ well if no one has anything else, let's figure next meeting time
21:34 davidnind that's fine too... better to have a plan than no plan at all
21:33 LeeJ #info kohadocs updates will be handled with the priority of new features, release notes, enhancements, etc.
21:33 LeeJ cait1++
21:33 LeeJ davidnind: I think the order should be new features then release notes..minor but still :)
21:33 caroline hear hear! :)
21:33 davidnind cait always has excellent ideas!
21:32 barton I like that idea.
21:32 davidnind I guess it comes down to priorities in the time available to 18.05 - release notes, new features and enhancements documented, manual brought as up-to-date as possible (with sprint day)
21:31 LeeJ #idea cait mentioned moving interesting things from help files to the manual
21:30 cait1 but as git has it all, that is not as urgent as the new things i think
21:30 cait1 reconciling them before the help files get removed
21:30 cait1 i've added something about moving interesting things from the help files to th emanual
21:29 davidnind a.. should be at!
21:29 LeeJ anyone else have anything to add? anything I missed?
21:29 davidnind ;-)
21:29 LeeJ anyway..I'll hammer out those details with you later davidnind
21:29 davidnind I should probably do some work while I'm a work today
21:28 LeeJ davidnind: ahh right. timezones :)
21:28 LeeJ #info LeeJ will be working with davidnind to update kohadocs with new 18.05 features
21:28 davidnind home time for me will be in about 8-9 hours
21:27 LeeJ davidnind: I'll hop on IRC when I'm home later and see how much we can get done
21:27 LeeJ Joubu++ # for the link
21:27 davidnind although sometimes bug fixes can take up time as you try and work out what the problem is..was...
21:26 Joubu (I have forced pushed and it seems it has not been synced)
21:26 caroline they're the most useful, they should be priority
21:26 Joubu release notes is https://gitlab.com/joubu/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md
21:26 LeeJ agreed davidnind
21:26 davidnind the new features and enhancements will probably require the most work :)
21:25 cait1 Joubu: lost the link :(
21:25 Joubu release notes is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md
21:25 barton (better late than never)
21:25 LeeJ :O
21:25 davidnind they are always a good starting point, will probably need some tweaking to reflect how people use Koha
21:25 wahanui release notes are in misc/release_notes
21:25 Joubu release notes?
21:25 Joubu release notse?
21:25 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS
21:25 Joubu since the beginning of the release cycle, yes
21:25 cait1 Joubu: does the page still exist?
21:24 LeeJ I like the way you think :)
21:24 cait1 davidnind: i think there are some preliminary release notes you could use as base
21:24 davidnind will start on this this evening
21:24 davidnind then we can make sure the release notes are covered off for each item
21:24 LeeJ davidnind++
21:24 LeeJ davidnind that would be a big help
21:24 cait1 davidnind++
21:24 caroline +1
21:23 davidnind I guess it should be in Taiga, I can go through and add all the bugs from Bugzilla for 18.05 commits
21:23 LeeJ dotting our i's and crossing our t's so to speak
21:22 LeeJ the goal of the sprint day is to catch the documentation up to the current status of the 18.05 code base
21:22 LeeJ caroline: yes :)
21:22 LeeJ Joubu: I'll bang out the details of that when I get home from work because I needed to pick your brain on that very topic
21:21 caroline it would be before the 18,05 release?
21:21 cait1 if you pick a day after 20th i will try to join
21:21 cait1 :)
21:21 davidnind excellent idea!
21:21 Joubu Where can we see the progress on documentation of the 18.05 new features?
21:20 LeeJ #info LeeJ will be sending out a Doodle poll to schedule a sprint day to hopefully get everyone organized..whatever day is picked he will make himself available the whole day
21:19 LeeJ #topic Next steps
21:18 LeeJ anything to add from anyone before the next topic?
21:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations
21:18 LeeJ #info Joubu is still in need of feedback on Bug 19817
21:17 LeeJ #info LeeJ will update the Editing the Manual wiki page with a standardized workflow for handling documentation/documentation bugs
21:16 LeeJ I digress
21:16 LeeJ Joubu: sounds good
21:16 LeeJ I want to thank barton for providing that bug..we can use it as training :)
21:16 Joubu LeeJ: let's talk about it on the bug report later ;)
21:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20123: (follow-up) Mock timezone in t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5229fd68b13e69b47349e9b5c986a6243ee69c6>
21:15 LeeJ Joubu: I think it would be your call on how best to word the -m flag..I'll admit I'm somewhat confused how it should be updated
21:14 davidnind virtual duck tape, does it exist, where can I buy some?
21:13 LeeJ cait: right
21:13 cait LeeJ: i tihnk fix the script first, manual second
21:13 huginn tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <Joubu> I'd use it to tell the documentation team needs to adapt the manual
21:13 tcohen @seen Joubu
21:13 LeeJ davidnind: I'm always available to assist
21:13 * cait gets out the duct tape
21:12 davidnind that will be useful, just trying to work through the workflow - will try with something easy first, then get stuck in
21:12 LeeJ hmm..anyone have a suggestion on how to update cleanup_database.pl per the bug/process of it?
21:12 cait :(
21:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server
21:10 tcohen Joubu: added a followup on bug 20123
21:10 LeeJ because I'm taking the time right after the meeting to updating the edit the manual wiki with a proper procedure
21:09 LeeJ okay
21:09 Joubu I'd use it to tell the documentation team needs to adapt the manual
21:09 Joubu there is a "Manual" keyword
21:08 LeeJ actually that was right
21:08 LeeJ whoops! wrong bug xD
21:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , usage() function in cleanup_database.pl needs refactoring
21:07 LeeJ as an example
21:07 LeeJ Bug 20555
21:07 LeeJ Joubu cait I was hoping for brief clarification..how has it been handled in the past when a docs bug has been filed for the documentation but also might apply to the code base?
21:06 LeeJ #topic Workflows
21:06 LeeJ I'll take the silence as a no :)
21:05 Joubu #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/
21:05 LeeJ has anyone not been added to the kohadocs Taiga who wishes to be?
21:05 LeeJ hello all :)
21:04 indradg #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies, India.
21:04 LeeJ #info documentation (GitLab) training webinar was held as scheduled per last meeting's minutes by LeeJ
21:04 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_11_April_2018
21:03 LeeJ #topic What's been done so far
21:03 clintD #Clint Deckard, Anact, New Zealand
21:03 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
21:03 cait #Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
21:03 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
21:03 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
21:02 LeeJ #info LeeJ, Marywood University
21:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
21:02 huginn Current chairs: Joubu LeeJ cait
21:02 Joubu #chair cait
21:02 huginn Current chairs: Joubu LeeJ
21:02 Joubu #chair LeeJ
21:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
21:02 Joubu #topic Introductions
21:02 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_11_april_2018'
21:02 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:02 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 11 21:02:30 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:02 Joubu #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018
21:02 LeeJ shall we begin?
21:02 LeeJ cait: no worries :)
21:02 cait i might get kicked out, but hope not
21:01 cait e
21:01 cait my internet connection is not very stabl
21:01 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
21:01 clintD good morning
21:01 davidnind hi all as well
21:01 LeeJ just catching my breath and we'll start in a sec :)
21:01 cait hi all
21:01 LeeJ hi davidnind
21:01 davidnind waves
21:01 LeeJ haha
21:01 LeeJ cait: I'm around now :)
21:01 LeeJ hi #koha
21:01 * LeeJ waves
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Release team 18.05
20:31 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19904: (follow-up) Add Nick Clemens as RM assistant
20:31 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 19904: Release team for 18.05
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: DBRev 17.12.00.027
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: (follow-up) Add existing fields to the ACQ framework
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19289 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Allow configuration of the fields on the 'Catalog details' form in the acquisition baskets
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20540 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , TransformHtmlToXml can duplicate </datafield>
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Extend size of inputs to 50
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use copyrightdate instead of publicationyear for MARC21
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Update borrower last seen from SIP
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use jQuery validate plugin
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use the ACQ framework to display bibliographic details
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20104 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20536 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , ILL: authnotrequired not explicitly unset
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Add existing fields to the ACQ framework
20:31 jenkins * katrin.fischer: Bug 20540: (follow-up) Remove debug line
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20552 minor, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , Fix HTML tag for search facets
20:31 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20540: Fix TransformHtmlToXml if last tag is empty
20:31 jenkins * m.de.rooy: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Simplify update_lastseen
20:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Advanced editor - Rancor - Move syspref from labs to cataloging and remove experimental note
20:30 jenkins * colin.campbell: Bug 18625: Update lastseen in patron info request
20:30 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Unit tests
20:30 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 20104: Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20
20:30 jenkins * martin.renvoize: Bug 20536: (ILL) authnotrequired should be explicitly unset on opac
20:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if there are no messages
20:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports
20:30 jenkins * claire.gravely: Bug 20552: Fix HTML tag for search facets
20:30 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 19538: Move EnableAdvancedCatalogingEdtor from 'Labs' to
20:30 jenkins * oleonard: Bug 20518: Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if
20:30 jenkins * Nick Clemens: Bug 9634: Allow for combining same paraneters in SQL reports
20:30 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: (QA follow-up) Add date and time
20:30 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: TZ error handling
20:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Show timezone for Perl and MySQL on the About Koha page
20:30 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: Style changes to match other entries
20:30 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 18674: Allow TZ SetEnv for plack
20:30 jenkins * mtompset: Bug 18674: Added timezone information to about page
20:30 jenkins * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20123: Make the timezone entry empty and uncommented by default
20:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server
20:30 jenkins * kyle: Bug 20123: Add commented out example to koha-conf.xml
20:30 jenkins * kyle: Bug 20123: (QA follow-up) If tz is 'local', no need to tell database to
20:30 jenkins * kyle: Bug 20123: Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones
20:30 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #429: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/429/
20:25 cait did i miss it?
20:25 cait hello even
20:25 cait helo
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18625: Update lastseen in patron info request <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=654d8c0cfd6cd2643e2deed7bb18618ea740cace>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Simplify update_lastseen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8b6fde9b7f59ba32f4726f55acb6f803c7816d6>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use the ACQ framework to display bibliographic details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84ce1fb5921cdddf2368f0c330dede0f602742d0>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Add existing fields to the ACQ framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d632da51c80f9c4215c6952793353803038d98d3>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e9c703d2bef25f7ada760952d3e070203376a05>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19538: Move EnableAdvancedCatalogingEdtor from 'Labs' to 'Cataloging' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=999f2ed7e9e56dda254308f9bbbc85dcc66a160c>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 9634: Allow for combining same paraneters in SQL reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8acf5912b3fd213b8bcb3e7ee9b47f7cb086002b>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use jQuery validate plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=946d5bcdd2ccaefaba2596b8be1278781d1cc482>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20104: Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4218875ec039dc375124f969caea1624399c21a4>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use copyrightdate instead of publicationyear for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30faa632e95362e0f80cf42f9fa37e96047e4a74>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20518: Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if there are no... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3b8f17395f05548c87129d286a3f49d0b171e0b>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20536: (ILL) authnotrequired should be explicitly unset on opac <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84d6c23eddf8744a61e06432b0f443753138d7f2>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Extend size of inputs to 50 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=198096ffab71ced1aa6ce453ee5c08fc43d0b5d3>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20540: Fix TransformHtmlToXml if last tag is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc8f3dc1cc046ecd7d53349091fbba864dfb91c9>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20540: (follow-up) Remove debug line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccc71f6cf13334d554cad74ae85df2e8be3e3649>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19904: Release team for 18.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e41df9101667304a09da007e7ef1104c4fdfeb6>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: (follow-up) Add existing fields to the ACQ framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad2b04001fe3100a5caeafbbdd5ea56a6ff65e1a>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20552: Fix HTML tag for search facets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd0469132cf5aee7fded7e69949b4e6e2e54694b>
19:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19904: (follow-up) Add Nick Clemens as RM assistant <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9b824559d336150afb27836c2c8e36ca3ad4900>
19:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18674: (QA follow-up) Add date and time <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a3d12e35e20766a2175c68f870a48058a25d6ec>
19:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19289: DBRev 17.12.00.027 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55abcbee5323b16071392cdc3f0dc38b0f1c3cfe>
19:51 bag ahh
19:51 huginn bag: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 56 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <cait> will be travelling
19:51 bag @seen cait
19:12 Joubu it has been announced on the list I think
19:10 roch OK thanks! We were up to date with the version on github - from 2014!!
19:10 Joubu not stupid, just slow. Sorry wahanui
19:09 Joubu yes, too slow
19:08 wahanui Joubu: i'm not following you...
19:08 wahanui qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools
19:08 wahanui well, qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools
19:08 Joubu wahanui: hi stupid bot!
19:08 Joubu wahanui: qa-tools?
19:07 Joubu qa-tools?
19:07 Joubu qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools
19:07 Joubu qa-test-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools
19:07 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools
19:07 Joubu a lot of commits
19:07 Joubu outch, yes, a lot
19:06 roch Joubu using qa-tools from github, I tried to update but nothing new. last commit was on 2014-08-18 13:07 , is there a more recent version somewhere?
19:03 khall you are exactly right, it we never implemented when issue_id was added to accountlines
19:03 Joubu since 3.22 then, that's bad
19:03 khall Joubu: it's a bug, but not a regression
19:03 Joubu I wanted to know if it was a regression (in that case we should find the cause) or if the problem exists since issue_id has been added to this table (long time ago iirc)
19:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20562 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , issue_id is not stored in accountlines for rental fees
19:02 Joubu khall: I do not understand your answer on bug 20562, but just realised I made a typo, it was "or", not "of"
18:57 oleonard Bye all
18:57 Joubu roch: did you update the qa-tools repo?
18:56 oleonard Easy to miss
18:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Interface updates to notices and notice previews
18:56 Joubu josef_moravec: follow-up submitted. But... if you are going to PQA it, you should ask oleonard to rebase bug 18007
18:55 roch woops! I missed that. Thanks :)
18:54 oleonard colon instead of hyphen
18:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Failed QA , Add extra column in Z3950 search result
18:53 oleonard Bug 12747 - Add extra column in Z3950 search ...should be: Bug 12747: Add extra column in Z3950 search
18:53 huginn Bug 12747: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Failed QA , Add extra column in Z3950 search result
18:53 roch Is the qa-tools supposed to tell me if my commit messsages are invalid ? I ran the tools on my commits for this issues https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12747 but it showed no errors
18:50 josef_moravec Joubu: great
18:50 Joubu josef_moravec: got it, thanks!
18:46 josef_moravec Joubu: yes, i was looking into developer tools/network panel, ajax calling of /svc/letters/preview returns 500 Internal server error
18:45 Joubu josef_moravec: "with ISE"?
17:55 Joubu #action Shane-S send cookies to the whole channel
17:49 Shane-S who am I kidding, I have a 2yr old and a newborn, my wife isn't letting me go anywhere unless she is set free too :)
17:49 Shane-S well I have to give some to damn near the whole channel...plane ticket and pizzas might be cheaper in Portland
17:47 tcohen he
17:47 tcohen Shane-S: you still owe those cookies, you better think seriously about it
17:46 tcohen we pick a different continent each year
17:46 Shane-S Not...quite...Im in New Jersey....but maybe
17:46 tcohen Shane-S: http://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/
17:45 oleonard So, maybe it's on the way?
17:45 oleonard Portland, Oregon
17:45 Shane-S Any chance North Carolina (I want to take a trip down there anyway)
17:44 Shane-S I had to use Easter Break to migrate the server, where will KohaCon 2018 be?
17:44 Shane-S Just never have time to code much I have 300 kids breaking chromebooks all day :)
17:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ssammons, Failed QA , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing
17:43 Shane-S bug 7646 I have tried :)
17:42 khall Joubu: kidclamp patch for 20562 is up
17:42 Joubu Shane-S: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Getting_involved
17:42 oleonard Mail cookies to developers!
17:41 Joubu join the documentation team
17:41 Joubu Shane-S: test patches!!
17:40 tcohen Shane-S: kohacon18?
17:40 Shane-S Only because I feel bad as I don't contribute and I have used Koha now for 4 years in my building
17:39 Shane-S There anyway to send donations like coffee/beer money to the project?
17:38 * tcohen uploaded an image: image.png (245KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/iBurjsraiATnGHqdrCHrcqml>
17:37 Shane-S np, figured that was what you meant with all blue...but I also pulled my data from a 3.20 install...so wasn't sure of a color preference carried over
17:36 Joubu heh... opac... sorry
17:35 Shane-S oleonard: TY! http://whes.npelem.com/ works
17:34 Shane-S Joubu: http://library.npelem.com/ I see black on MacBookPro
17:33 Joubu ok
17:33 khall Joubu: kidclamp working on a patch right now
17:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20562 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , issue_id is not stored in accountlines for rental fees
17:32 Joubu kidclamp: bug 20562 is major, right? regression?
17:24 oleonard Shane-S: .navbar-inverse .navbar-inner { background: linear-gradient(to bottom,#194e87 0,#0f3666 100%); }
17:22 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
17:22 Joubu @later tell kidclamp did not you write a patch to remove the ability to delete "core" notice templates?
17:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , HTML notices can break the notice viewer
17:16 Joubu khall: ping on bug 12123, can you share an example that breaks the display/js please?
17:12 Joubu black? it's all blue
17:08 Shane-S only black I am finding is for color: #33333; in the Body{} and that should be for font colors
17:07 Shane-S I can't find it with Chrome Inspector
17:07 Shane-S Anyone know what OPAC CSS class is giving the Koha nav bar (top bar) the black color
16:56 Shane-S tried .navbar div.navbar #header-region all get over-ridden
16:55 Shane-S grr..I can't find the right CSS element to change the header background from black to a gradient...
16:49 Joubu hum, buggy
16:48 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_17_12_00.md
16:41 wahanui release notes are in misc/release_notes
16:41 tcohen release notes?
16:37 * tcohen adds that this controller is not ready because there's the idea to make it automatically create baskest if no basket_id is passed (Coral use cases)
16:35 tcohen for consistency
16:35 tcohen the only problem I'm facing is that other Koha::Object-based classes behave differently regarding DBIC exceptions, and I think we should make it behave as the others
16:35 tcohen Joubu: that's only to show that current Koha::Acquisition::Order(s) code is perfectly suitable for implementing the orders endpoint as-is
16:34 pastebot "tcohen" at 200.16.23.4 pasted "Joubu: the orders endpoint controller" (336 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/208
16:32 Joubu I regenerate them just after pushing stuffs
16:31 Joubu yes
16:29 tcohen Joubu: are the release notes rebuilt regularly for us to take a look?
16:28 Shane-S ty though
16:28 Shane-S actually nm...just one instance, I have to check my custom CSS
16:27 Joubu Shane-S: https://lut.im/
16:22 Shane-S Anyone recommend a good image paste bin...FFx is rendering the OPAC odd at the top...is a blue bar over the header image and menu bar
16:19 Shane-S okay warning page just have the <template_cache_dir> warning and that is it
16:18 Shane-S not *all* that was poor word choice
16:18 Shane-S well the reported issues record
16:18 Shane-S i deleted all the record in the the deleted and old tables
16:17 Shane-S deleteditems (1 koha & 2 woodburhts) and old_reserves (2 woodburyhts) those are instance names
16:16 Joubu from old_issues? or something else?
16:13 Shane-S 1 for 1 instance, and 4 in another instance
16:13 Joubu Shane-S: you are going to lose data but yes it's the easiest fix. It depends on the number of corrupted rows you have
16:11 wahanui hi, tcohen
16:11 tcohen hi
16:09 Shane-S Sorry to be a PITA with missing that line
16:08 Shane-S one possible fix is to delete the entries in the deleted* and old* tables matching the IDs listed on the about page.
16:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add a script to fix corrupted data
16:08 Shane-S I got it...I saw the bug 19016 reference and didnt read next line
16:08 Joubu Shane-S: what tells the about page?
16:01 Shane-S ...uhh...as in just purge the records or what?
15:58 Joubu Shane-S: re-read the page, you need to fix the "corrupted data" first
15:48 Shane-S I should not my my.cnf did not have a [mysqld] directive, I added that and 2 init-file= lines as I have 2 instances
15:46 Shane-S I followed https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix
15:46 Shane-S on another matter...I did the auto increment files, and tailed the logs...got no errors, but the SysInfo page still says I have auto-increment issues...do I have to re-boot the whole server?
15:38 Shane-S Is there anything aside from a browser cache issue that would cause that?
15:38 Shane-S So...I can't duplicate this off-site, but a user called me saying doing check-in / checkout they keep getting the "add Message" pop coming up and that checking the immediately show checkouts box isn't enabled across patrons
15:36 Joubu ashimema: hum? Can you be more explicit?
15:33 tuxayo Joubu: I wrote about this the 8 march when the meeting was planned for the 15 march. I didn't keep track of when it was rescheduled.
15:33 tuxayo lol wahanui
15:28 * ashimema is getting angry whilst reading ::Objects code
15:27 wahanui I haven't seen 'the', Joubu
15:27 Joubu seen the Koha calendar?
15:27 Joubu tuxayo: how did you miss it?
15:23 tuxayo Thanks for developing on the issue that I wrote about for the meeting. Too bad I missed the date.
15:22 tuxayo cait++
15:20 calire you're welcome
15:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability for librarians to easily copy, download or print DataTables based tables in Koha
15:17 oleonard Thanks for the signoff on Bug 18791 calire!
15:05 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:05 Joubu @later tell marcelr Koha::Cache::Memory::Lite is not buggy, it's flushed correctly
15:01 oleonard Thanks for chairing
15:01 oleonard Joubu++
15:00 reiveune bye
14:56 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-14.01.log.html
14:56 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-14.01.txt
14:56 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_11_april_2018.2018-04-11-14.01.html
14:56 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 14:56:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:56 Joubu #endmeeting
14:56 Joubu 1
14:56 Joubu 2
14:56 thd Yes
14:56 Joubu 3
14:56 Joubu #info Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 21 UTC
14:56 greenjimll yes
14:55 Joubu Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 21 UTC?
14:55 calire me too
14:55 greenjimll +1
14:55 cait will be travelling
14:55 Joubu Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 20 UTC?
14:55 Joubu April 25th?
14:54 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting
14:54 marcelr or just occassionally print a extra line
14:54 Joubu (no idea if someone opened a bug report)
14:54 ashimema that would be nice
14:54 Joubu that could give information on what is going on
14:53 Joubu we talked about moving the print line of the updateDB *before* the execution
14:53 Joubu 1sec
14:53 cait let's move on?
14:53 ashimema mm
14:53 Joubu blackholes
14:53 greenjimll More helpful than silence.
14:53 Joubu they are usually lost in blockholes
14:52 ashimema not helpfull really is it ;)
14:52 ashimema - Hey, this thing we're about to do is going to take a while.. but we're not going to give you an option to postpone it
14:52 Joubu I am just worried about the decisions/discussions we have in the meetings ;)
14:52 ashimema a warning inlines in the updates won't help I think..
14:51 cait i know what tuxayo means
14:51 cait think a sysadmin that ususally not works on Koha or with sQL
14:51 cait Joubu: not everyone will understand them the way we do
14:51 Joubu if there is items/biblioitems, etc. it will certainly take ages
14:51 greenjimll I was thinking more that if we knew something might take a long time up front, a warning could be included as part of the update process?
14:51 * ashimema actually reads the wiki page of release note/upgrade path notes for Mojolicious versions.. something similar would certainly be helpful.
14:51 cait #info try to already note long running db updates in the release notes properly
14:51 Joubu it's very easy to know if it will be problmatic, just by reading the SQL queries in updatedb.pl
14:51 cait set time and date of next meeting?
14:50 cait yep
14:50 cait that problems/notes make sense after release
14:50 ashimema If a db update is likely to take hours then that's certainly something we can predict and put in the release notes I would say
14:50 marcelr wiki page per release
14:50 cait I think collect on a wiki page if it happens
14:50 Joubu but yes, we could highlight them in the release notes as well
14:50 ashimema +1
14:49 Joubu About the updates - just assume than updates can be problematic, and test them on a test/pre-prod server
14:49 cait postpone this?
14:49 cait we got another dev meeting before release
14:49 Joubu #info jajm will take a look at the existing Mojolicious plugin (instead of using Net::OAuth2::.. directly)
14:48 Joubu #action jajm will work on linking to existing patrons, tcohen and josef_moravec will test/qa
14:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API
14:48 Joubu #action ashimema will read code of bug 20402 and give feedback on the bug report
14:48 Joubu (resending some messages for the minutes)
14:48 cait but we shoul try to put all the important things int he release notes
14:48 cait i think appratent afterwards was the issue
14:47 greenjimll Is this warnings that we know about before release, or that become apparent afterwards?
14:47 oleonard We meeting HARD, get used to it oftc
14:47 cait i think tht was tuxayo's point at least
14:47 cait they are already created when those things appear in part
14:47 wahanui release notes are in misc/release_notes
14:47 ashimema release notes?
14:47 Joubu it's 2 meetings in a row with IRC explosion...
14:47 cait so you can plan ahead and are not surprised by it
14:47 cait like put a warning somewher that a specific database update needs a lot of time
14:47 cait i think the question was about how not to force everyone to discover the smae things :)
14:46 thd Was there another earthquake wherever OFTC houses its servers?
14:45 * oleonard wonders if half of the meeting is now taking place in an alternate dimension
14:44 bag hiya oleonard
14:42 * oleonard watches everyone disappear
14:40 cait josef_moravec: maybe you for qa? feasable?
14:40 jajm Joubu, I will, if everyone agree
14:39 cait i think maybe also tomas, for qa we#d have to check then
14:39 cait jajm: do you have time to work on it?
14:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API
14:39 Joubu who's working on bug 20402?
14:38 cait +1 i think we need to offer something now
14:38 thd Do we allow backporting after release?
14:38 matts +1
14:38 andreashm +1
14:38 josef_moravec If it is doable for 18.05 I am for it
14:38 andreashm starting simple seems viable to me. doing something for 18.05 seems tight though.
14:38 jajm i think the only thing we can do before feature freeze is to remove the "scopes" stuff, and tie an API client with an existing Koha patron, so that we can use the permissions the patron
14:37 andreashm Something that works better than cookies is needed. But other than that, I have no opinion on how it is built
14:37 matts links with anything outside of Koha itself, in fact
14:37 cait which would be a good argument for me to provide something earlier than later, but not sure how doable it is
14:37 cait i think people voiced a need for this in order to continue with implementing links with Coral
14:36 cait so is there something reasonable that we can do for 18.05
14:36 marcelr too late..
14:36 cait yep
14:36 greenjimll Isn't 18.05 freeze in 9 days? That's tight!
14:36 jajm cait, you're right
14:36 cait my impression was that we haven't defined scopes yet, is that right?
14:36 cait i think one of the basic questions is if we can finish something or 18.05
14:36 jajm greenjimll, i just wanted a minimal working implementation
14:35 greenjimll jajm: The reason for not having JWT tokens? They're in common use (eg Google REST APIs)
14:35 jajm cait, as an example the code allow to define scopes for each API client (ex. "patrons.read"), the scopes needed to access a specific resource is defined in the swagger schema
14:35 cait maybe that's the best approach to comment on the bug itself?
14:34 * ashimema will read that code before commenting
14:34 cait jajm: but how do you figure what they are allowed todo?
14:34 jajm greenjimll, client crendentials yes, no jwt tokens
14:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API
14:33 jajm the code in bug 20402 only allow to define "API clients" in koha-conf.xml, not linked to any koha patron
14:33 greenjimll With OAuth2, are we talking client-confidential flows? Using JWT tokens?
14:33 Joubu As RM I'd like to know if we can expect to see this REST API auth work into 18.05 or if it is too late
14:33 cait because that would sound ok for e right nwo
14:33 * ashimema will refrain from asking questions now and have a catch up session with cait/tomas or someone later
14:33 cait jajm: how does the proposal work? i create an api-key for an existing patron, the permission the patron has will be used?
14:32 ashimema is the api versioned yet
14:32 cait ashimema: something we can discuss later again
14:32 jajm i think we need to discuss what to do with oauth2, scopes, and patron's permissions
14:32 cait ashimema: that woudl mean changing already voted on rfcs which I'd wanted to avoid in this case
14:32 * ashimema thinks we should say 'users everywhere in the api' as apposed to 'in this case'
14:31 Joubu jajm: ?
14:31 Joubu #topic REST API Authentication
14:31 Joubu moving ong?
14:31 cait can someoen help with oauth?
14:31 cait done
14:31 cait #agreed We will users in the case of the funds RFC (11 yes, 2 abstain)
14:31 huginn abstain (2): andreashm, josef_moravec
14:31 huginn yes (11): Joubu, greenjimll, cc_, cait, kidclamp, oleonard, ashimema, jajm, marcelr, bag, thd
14:31 huginn Voted on "Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)?" Results are
14:31 cait #endvote
14:31 marcelr :)
14:30 ashimema #vote yes
14:30 cait people concentrate!
14:30 cait few more seconds
14:30 * ashimema catches up
14:30 cait #vote yes
14:30 jajm #vote yes
14:30 kidclamp #vote yes
14:30 andreashm #vote abstain
14:30 huginn cait: yes (turned by the argument of owners) is not a valid option. Valid options are , yes, no, abstain, .
14:30 cait #vote yes (turned by the argument of owners)
14:30 bag #vote yes
14:30 josef_moravec #vote abstain
14:30 oleonard #vote yes
14:30 thd #vote yes
14:30 bag right <thinking>
14:30 marcelr #vote yes
14:30 Joubu #vote yes
14:29 cait bag: it will still be patron_id I think
14:29 Joubu there is also the owner, so "users" and "owner" make perfect sense
14:29 cc_ #vote yes
14:29 greenjimll #vote yes
14:29 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:29 huginn Begin voting on: Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, .
14:29 cait #startvote Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)? (yes,no,abstain)
14:29 bag so cait you think having users in acqs and then having patrons on other areas of Koha - is too confusing?
14:28 cait i thnk mixing might get difficult, but ready to abstain
14:28 cait you still will link it to a patron record
14:28 marcelr yeah fund user sounds better than fund patron
14:28 cait funds can be linked to 1-many users that can 'use ' them
14:28 cait Note: it would be correct to pick users over patrons in this case. This should be voted, though.
14:28 cait comment here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Acquisitions_funds_endpoint_RFC
14:27 cait i think at the moment it's if we shoudl use it on funds
14:27 marcelr cait: what is the link for that one ?
14:27 cait can you help me phrase the question?
14:27 bag would be good to vote on that cait
14:27 cc_ yes lots of underlying issues in acq design
14:27 cait shoudl we also vote patrons vs users?
14:26 cait how to tackel them exactly
14:26 Joubu (I know I wrote big part of it)
14:26 Joubu which is very shitty
14:26 cait maybe it could be a separate discussion
14:26 Joubu to me it will be very difficult to write orders (order lines) end points with the code we have in C4::Acq
14:25 cait Joubu: i see the conflict, but we need the apis for acq
14:25 josef_moravec Joubu++
14:25 cait #info 4 yes, 4 lates yes and 4 abstains
14:25 Joubu and ACQ code is not moved at all (even not started)
14:25 Joubu my concerns, not about the RFC: REST API endpoints must be written with already moved code
14:25 cait #agreed RFCs for funds, vendors, orders and biblios have been agreed upon, no blocker concerns, write the code and then we adjust.
14:24 thd :)\
14:24 cait people, pay attention
14:24 khall #vote yes
14:24 marcelr haha
14:24 Joubu toooo late guys
14:24 marcelr #vote yes
14:24 andreashm #vote yes
14:24 josef_moravec #vote yes
14:24 huginn abstain (4): Joubu, oleonard, cc_, jajm
14:24 huginn yes (4): greenjimll, cait, bag, thd
14:24 huginn Voted on "To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are?" Results are
14:24 cait #endvote
14:24 cait giving it a few more seconds
14:23 oleonard #vote abstain
14:23 jajm #vote abstain
14:23 bag #vote yes
14:23 cc_ #vote abstain
14:23 thd #vote yes
14:23 cait #vote yes
14:23 Joubu #vote abstain
14:23 greenjimll #vote yes
14:22 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:22 huginn Begin voting on: To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, .
14:22 cait #startvote To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are? (yes,no,abstain)
14:22 cait the hardest part is always phrasing the question
14:22 cait ok
14:22 thd All in one without objection.
14:21 bag all in one (imo)
14:21 cait all in one or separate?
14:21 thd We can revisit the outstanding issues in future as the opportunity arises.
14:20 huginn Current chairs: Joubu cait kidclamp
14:20 Joubu #chair cait
14:20 cait start vote?
14:20 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University
14:20 bag +1 on thd comment
14:19 thd Having noted the outstanding issues, I am ready to vote on the proposed form as they stand in the wiki today.
14:19 Joubu something that could be blocker?
14:19 Joubu any other concerns about these RFC?
14:19 bag #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater
14:18 thd I presume that we take the examples as they are and issues such as users vs patrons are for some future prospect of reconsideration.
14:18 Joubu so I guess Tomas expected the discussion here and get a decision
14:17 Joubu from the page "Note: it would be correct to pick users over patrons in this case. This should be voted, though."
14:17 thd I merely identify that there are open questions in what is proposed for voting.
14:17 wahanui i think +1 for consistency is drojf's only opinion
14:17 andreashm +1 for consistency
14:17 thd Every user is a patron.
14:16 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
14:16 thd I understand the underlying problem is the original specification for Koha.
14:16 josef_moravec we should keep it consistant I think
14:16 cait in koha you always link to a patrons record, staff is not separate, either use one term or the other
14:15 cait i am not sure we shoud mix, if it's all the same
14:15 cait if we stick with terminology
14:15 cait but you still use a patron_id i think?
14:14 thd users vs patrons for acquisition funds which obviously do not apply to patrons.
14:14 cait like use tax instead of gst (like the gui does already)
14:14 Joubu so 3 about ACQ and 1 for the bibliographic record endpoint
14:14 cait some small things about names etc, butnothing big
14:14 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Biblios_endpoint_RFC
14:14 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Acquisitions_vendors_endpoint_RFC
14:14 cait I've left commetns on each
14:14 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Acquisitions_funds_endpoint_RFC
14:14 thd There is an open issue in the wiki descriptionl.
14:14 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Acquisitions_orders_endpoint_RFC
14:14 Joubu there are:
14:13 Joubu RFC
14:13 Joubu Does anyone disagree with one of the 4 RDF?
14:12 Joubu #topic REST api
14:12 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
14:12 marcelr you said it all
14:11 cait anyone else from QA?
14:11 cait but lots of progress too right now, it's just a lot of things
14:11 cait it's disappointing to spend time on reviewing and not hear back, especially with the deadline so close
14:10 cait yes, check your outstanding bugs for comments
14:10 cait don't take it personal :)
14:10 cait if something doesn't apply I will fail it - because there is not much time to work on follow-ups myself
14:10 wahanui okay, Joubu.
14:10 Joubu I am also dealing with 40 patches to push but waiting for answers on some of the reports
14:10 Joubu yes, please
14:09 cait please rebase/follow-up really quickly if needed
14:09 cait we'll try to take car eof as many things as possible, but at the moment the queue is still around 70
14:09 cait so we are busy
14:09 cait hard feature freeze is planned for 20th
14:08 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team
14:08 kidclamp just trying to catch up and push things
14:08 fridolin i will go to 17.05.18 max
14:07 fridolin I continue Rmaint 17.05 after 18.05 release
14:07 fridolin yep
14:07 wahanui i guess rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11)
14:07 Joubu rmaints?
14:07 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:07 Joubu nothing new since last week
14:06 Joubu I have announced several things at the last general meeting. Everybody reads the minutes so I do not need to repeat everything
14:06 cait reading back quickly now
14:06 cait you already did I think
14:06 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (18.05)
14:06 cait only the roles page
14:05 Joubu no worries, do you have something to announce?
14:05 cait sorry to be a little late
14:05 calire #info Claire Gravely, Germany
14:05 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:04 Joubu anyone has something to announce?
14:04 Joubu #info wiki page for the 18.11 roles is created - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_18.11
14:04 Joubu ^ this is the agenda
14:04 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_11_April_2018
14:03 Joubu #topic Announcements
14:03 Joubu nobody else?
14:03 kidclamp in another meeting, may be slow
14:02 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
14:02 huginn Current chairs: Joubu kidclamp
14:02 Joubu #chair kidclamp
14:02 cc_ #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe
14:02 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Ústí nad Orlicí, Czech Republic
14:02 jajm #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre
14:02 andreashm #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library
14:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:02 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum, NL
14:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
14:02 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
14:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
14:01 Joubu #topic Introductions
14:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_11_april_2018'
14:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 11 14:01:37 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018
14:01 thd Joubu: Sleep is the best stimulant ;)
14:00 Joubu hope you all have cofe, tea, mate or anything with stimulant
13:57 Shane-S Joubu: okay I will fix my auto increment issue and then check on the request and workers
13:57 caroline he's gone on to new challenges
13:57 caroline yes, I replaced francois charbonnier
13:57 kidclamp not sure then shane-s
13:57 oleonard Oh you're with Inlibro, caroline? I didn't know that.
13:56 wahanui rmaints is probably kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11)
13:56 Joubu rmaints?
13:56 wahanui somebody said qa_team was alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec
13:56 Joubu qa_team?
13:56 Joubu dev meeting in few minutes
13:56 Shane-S kidclamp: its is set to "Don't"
13:56 caroline Before coming to inlibro last fall, I hadn't used irc since the mid 1990's when the internet was just beginning
13:55 kidclamp yes, system pref
13:55 caroline that's what i figured... I'm not versed in irc codes
13:55 Shane-S kidclamp: that a system pref, I will search it if so
13:55 oleonard Don't mind huginn, caroline, he just doesn't like it when you put the @ on someone's name
13:54 Joubu you can try tunning the max_requests and number of workers
13:54 kidclamp Shane-S, do you have TrackLastPatronActivity enabled?
13:54 Shane-S I have to fix the DBMS auto increment, but that is the only warning
13:54 huginn caroline: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:54 caroline @kidclamp, wow, it looks really different! Thanks for pointing it out!
13:53 Joubu they are not mandatory
13:53 Shane-S all not installed
13:53 Shane-S Test::DBIx::Class (0.42),HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73), Readonly::XS (0.01), WebService::ILS (0.17)
13:52 Joubu nothing about plack?
13:52 Shane-S Perl Modules I gave 6 red boxes...not sure they should eb addresses or not.
13:52 Joubu nope
13:51 Shane-S Would that make a huge impact?
13:51 Shane-S You are missing the <template_cache_dir> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. That will bring a performance boost to enable it.
13:51 Shane-S Joubu: I have this one...on SysInfo
13:50 caroline tahnks! :)
13:50 caroline I will check
13:50 caroline I still see it, but I have not updated my master in a while
13:50 kidclamp caroline, looks to be removed in master
13:47 caroline hey all, is it just me or is the link "Guided reports wizard" in the reports page totally useless? It only leads to a page where there are four button/links which are also on the main reports page
13:47 Joubu Shane-S: go to the about page and search for warnings
13:46 * andreashm waves
13:43 Shane-S KiB Mem : 8175032 total, 3084012 free, 821440 used, 4269580 buff/cache KiB Swap: 1003516 total, 1003516 free, 0 used. 7010336 avail Mem
13:43 Shane-S anything I can check to speed that up, running Koha 7.11 w/memcache running
13:42 Shane-S So my Librarian is complaining that the system is slow...so I just ran in and she said its with circulation checkin and checkout
13:34 tcohen bgkriegel++
13:31 marcelr o/
13:30 josef_moravec Hi marcelr, tcohen, Joubu
13:30 Joubu outhc
13:30 Joubu "Fix critical errors 192,205"
13:29 Joubu we have a new translation server :)
13:28 tcohen Hi
13:27 marcelr hi #koha
11:51 wahanui hi dear loon
11:51 calire hi oleonard
11:40 wahanui hi olé onard
11:40 kidclamp hi oleonard
11:39 oleonard Hi #koha
07:36 wahanui kia ora, gaetan_B
07:36 gaetan_B hello
07:05 calire :)
07:04 magnuse calire: busy...
06:37 reiveune hello
06:32 wahanui hey, alex_a
06:32 alex_a bonjour
06:14 rone some body there?
06:10 wahanui salut, rone
06:10 rone hello
06:06 cait good morning all :)
06:04 calire and you?
06:04 calire ganz gut, danke :)
06:03 magnuse wie geht's?
06:03 magnuse guten morgen calire
06:03 wahanui kamelåså
06:03 calire hi magnuse
06:02 magnuse \o/
05:59 fridolin hiiii
05:41 calire morning #koha
02:59 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
00:08 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 5 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Joubu> same for batch record edit
00:08 mtompset @seen Joubu