Time  Nick        Message
23:42 Shane-S     getting there
23:42 Shane-S     lols now to do apache stuff
23:31 Shane-S     hmm...guess I need to run zebra index for search
23:29 Shane-S     https://pastebin.com/bLM2NEK8
23:29 Shane-S     I had a bunch of error...but I will continue seems to be on an item type..likely the one I made for laptops
23:22 wizzyrea    and then look. :)
23:22 wizzyrea    you should get the db imported
23:20 Shane-S     wizzyrea tcohen ty db imported, I assume I just follow the install steps. Do i have to re-do all the record types, item types, fines, etc stuff?
23:14 Shane-S     Figure I can provide my school with solution providers when I leave ;)
23:14 Shane-S     so I am curious does anyone or any company do remote support for custom install or even migration to a hosted service? Wife and I have a 2yr plan to move, and I don't know if they will get someone as willing as I am to get community support for self-installed servers.
23:09 Shane-S     the second one I did right, I named for the location :)
23:09 Shane-S     yeah, I just was hoping to use a more "meaningful" name, since I have 2 instances :)
23:09 wizzyrea    which should work now, since the names are teh same :)
23:09 wizzyrea    and then reimport the db
23:08 wizzyrea    koha-create --create-db koha_koha
23:08 wizzyrea    koha-remove koha_nps
23:08 wizzyrea    just remove the instance and create a new one
23:07 Shane-S     wizzyrea: can I rename an instance? not a big deal...but when I did this on the original server I didn't know how the instance name was used ;). No ER visit just nice bump on the noggin and an upset child
23:02 wizzyrea    because the dump has a different db name in it than the one you are importing into
23:02 wizzyrea    Shane-S: that'll be why your db won't import tho
23:02 wizzyrea    um, yes take care of sproggen
23:01 Shane-S     sorry I took so long..might be taking daughter to ER..she just fell...so I am putting this upgrade on hold.
23:00 Shane-S     koha_koha is from the old server, that is the DB name from old server, I thought I make a new instance name so I did "nps" instead of "koha" what it was named
22:56 wizzyrea    does the new db match the name of the db you are importing?
22:50 tcohen      Does the empty DB exist?
22:49 Shane-S     ERROR 1044 (42000) at line 22: Access denied for user 'koha_nps'@'localhost' to database 'koha_koha'
22:49 Shane-S     tcohen: anyway to pass a username and password with koha-mysql, man page doesn't mention. and I get this..
22:47 Shane-S     okay thanks now I have to work on an SQL user permission issue
22:46 Shane-S     guess I should try vs asking :)
22:46 Shane-S     add sudo after the pipe?
22:45 Shane-S     here is what I ran "sudo zcat ./koha-2018-04-05.sql.gz | koha-mysql nps"
22:44 tcohen      sudo koha-mysql
22:43 Shane-S     tcohen: are you here...if so...when I do zcat...koha-mysql I get Permission denied: /etc/koha/sites/nps/koha-conf.xml
22:26 Shane-S     I should note that I will be moving from MySQL to MariaDB on the new server, so would i need worry about it anyway?
22:21 Shane-S     So I found I have data errors in my old SQL...should I do this on the data before a dump, or after I import it? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix
22:07 wizzyrea    following the wiki is good advice
22:06 wizzyrea    if you can't think of one, you don't need to change it :)
22:06 wizzyrea    just leave it, unless you have a good reason why to change it
22:00 Shane-S     wizzyrea: nm...wiki says "This may need to be installed first with: sudo apt-get install memcached"
21:58 Shane-S     well not enabled but installed, and I have to change use to yes
21:58 Shane-S     wizzyrea: ty, for memcached prefix, does that matter domain wise or is it strictly for the servers and their setup. I am not familiar with it, I assume it is enabled by default?
21:52 Shane-S     so I going to try and use that
21:52 wizzyrea    it does make things faster.
21:52 Shane-S     someone linked me chart showing it makes heck of a difference with memcached
21:49 wizzyrea    what it *does* make some sense to worry about, is the memcached settings, if you're gonna use that.
21:48 wizzyrea    because you can always change them later.
21:48 wizzyrea    it doesn't make a huge amount of sense to worry much about the servernames of the instances from a koha-sites.conf perspective
21:48 wizzyrea    unless you are going to be making a gazillion instances on the same server, where you want them all to follow a pattern
21:47 wizzyrea    i.e. just let it create the instance with the default values, and change it after.
21:47 wizzyrea    Shane-S ^
21:47 wizzyrea    (then reload apache)
21:46 wizzyrea    you could ignore that, and just change it in the /etc/apache2/sites-available/<instance>.conf
21:27 Shane-S     for /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf it says to add prefix and suffix, what if I don't use that but instead I use libstaff and library and for other instances I use whesstaff and whes should I even modify this file aside from the 8080 for intranet?
21:02 wahanui     bonjour, wizzyrea
21:02 wizzyrea    hi
20:46 * andreashm waves
20:43 rangi       morning
20:31 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20531 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , IssueSlip is failing randomly
20:31 jenkins     Jonathan Druart: Bug 20531: Prevent IssueSlip.t to fail randomly
20:31 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #423: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/423/
20:31 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:31 jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
19:51 * andreashm waves
19:51 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20531: Prevent IssueSlip.t to fail randomly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45b1dee67e5fd771adbb30e9cac352b8a0c6ab40>
19:47 tcohen      bye #koha
19:39 tcohen      Joubu: followup added to 18674
19:36 Joubu       it makes the po files dirty IIRC
19:35 tcohen      variable_2 = other_value %]
19:35 tcohen      [% variable_1 = value
19:35 tcohen      variable_2 = other_value %]
19:35 tcohen      [% variable_1 = value
19:35 tcohen      this construct is invalid in Koha, but correct for any TT example
19:34 tcohen      why does is matter if it is multiline?
19:34 Joubu       Jenkins is asking a question: how do we want to sort the checkout slip (IssueSlip?). For now it is: desc timestamp, desc issuedate, desc issue_id
19:34 tcohen      why doesn't our translation tool consider a TT block an atomic entity?
19:33 Joubu       what do you mean?
19:31 tcohen      just highlights problems we don't solve...
19:31 tcohen      the qa rule about line breaks inside TT tags...
19:25 Joubu       tcohen: git grep tooltip **/*.tt ?
19:25 huginn      tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 23 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <mtompset> @later tell khall bug 18821 Sorry had to Failed QA it due to lack of tests, and my brain isn't up to writing them right now.
19:25 tcohen      @seen mtompset
19:25 * tcohen    uploaded an image: image.png (38KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/SgJlwIRBGHdkoMDvnVLMecQy>
19:25 wahanui     opinions are slightly divded :)
19:25 tcohen      opinions?
19:12 tcohen      how do I make a tooltip translatable?
19:05 AnnaBoten   Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:05 khall_away  !nick khall_away
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20530 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , trailing ':' in columns_settings.yml
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add column configuration to table of saved reports
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Show patron's library in pending discharges table
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20510 minor, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Master , Remove unused sub TotalPaid from C4::Stats
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Elasticsearch - Update default authority mappings
18:30 jenkins     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20530: Remove trailing ':' in columns_settings.yml
18:30 jenkins     * oleonard: Bug 20350: Add column configuration to table of saved reports
18:30 jenkins     * julian.maurice: Bug 20516: Show patron's library in pending discharges table
18:30 jenkins     * josef.moravec: Bug 20510: Remove unused sub TotalPaid from C4::Stats
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20261 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , No result in some page in authority search opac and pro (ES)
18:30 jenkins     * Nick Clemens: Bug 18825: Elasticsearch - Update heading main-heading and see fields
18:30 jenkins     * alex.arnaud: Bug 20261: Fix pagination of the results in authority search
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17373 normal, P5 - low, ---, claire.hernandez, Pushed to Master , Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC
18:30 jenkins     * alex.arnaud: Bug 17373: Add mappings for unimarc authorities - Match index
18:30 jenkins     * fridolin.somers: Bug 17373: Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC - patch1
18:30 jenkins     * kyle: Bug 20325: Remove warning, it is no longer true
18:30 jenkins     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20325: Do not remove accountlines between tests
18:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20325 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , C4::Accounts::purge_zero_balance_fees does not check account_offsets
18:30 jenkins     * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20325: Move tests to a subtest
18:30 jenkins     * kyle: Bug 20325: C4::Accounts::purge_zero_balance_fees does not check
18:30 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #422: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/422/
18:19 Joubu       indeed :)
18:19 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:19 Joubu       @later tell khall: sounds like you should update your git config: Author: Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatetsolutions.com>
18:18 tcohen      ^^^ khall
18:13 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:13 Joubu       @later tell Kyle: sounds like you should update your git config: Author: Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatetsolutions.com>
18:01 tcohen      we can talk tomorrow
18:01 tcohen      vfernandes: I missed your question on the flood
18:01 vfernandes  cya #koha
18:01 vfernandes  tcohen: I have to leave... thanks for the help
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 17373: Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC - patch1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6271f6c1374ac2dad573ae6784d1632d626b14be>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 18825: Elasticsearch - Update heading main-heading and see fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ac8e52f61223d44dfbb5a7ad8933c0ba674ca8a>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20350: Add column configuration to table of saved reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=754994a90b0050539174e83c065080dd10a53bbd>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 17373: Add mappings for unimarc authorities - Match index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=199c2f33d93a33bb56d422a6abdeb334fd988faf>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20325: C4::Accounts::purge_zero_balance_fees does not check account_offsets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27a21083d9878f029f01fcc7256fa116ee15dc28>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20261: Fix pagination of the results in authority search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bfad6106aec007ac4bcf17d00f72b5508c4895d>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20510: Remove unused sub TotalPaid from C4::Stats <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61d51c9b11fb10af24e134201984ea759ac4fa52>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20516: Show patron's library in pending discharges table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2fcaac302fc544ba1c3b64eec9a649e72d3d58b>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20325: Move tests to a subtest <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=373b2f747bb5d67302ae1aa6567b8b593a39d9e9>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20325: Do not remove accountlines between tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=328d5e7007a8abedf3f8ba679eee910e8ae41d9a>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20325: Remove warning, it is no longer true <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5fd79222dedacd13d9a06aa7ab27f07b585f1a4>
17:53 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20530: Remove trailing ':' in columns_settings.yml <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a10b66205dc93d9b9773703008ebcb412b711bc>
17:52 vfernandes  the database size is 6.7GB because of local covers
17:51 vfernandes  yes
17:51 tcohen      do you regularly run cleanup_database.pl to clean sessions, etc?
17:51 vfernandes  4 workers, 10 max-requests?
17:50 vfernandes  tcohen: with 4 cores, 4GB RAM, 8GB database which plack/starmam configuration should I use? and with 8GB RAM?
17:49 vfernandes  I have to wait to the end of the week to do some more testing (when the library is closed)
17:47 vfernandes  the client manager told me that was only 2 records... I tried the same operation in my computer and it works fine
17:43 tcohen      how many biblios are merged?
17:43 vfernandes  every time that someone tries to use that catalogue merge operation the system starts to use swap memory and one worker of starmam is using most of it
17:42 tcohen      you might be right...
17:42 tcohen      If you think so, you should file a bug and provide steps to reproduce the issue
17:41 vfernandes  I don't know if is a memory leak or something else
17:40 vfernandes  yes I know... but some operations (like merge.pl) are consuming so much memory
17:38 tcohen      each worker will eat a fixed amount of RAM only for running
17:38 vfernandes  maybe I can raise fto 4 workers and reduce to 10 requests
17:37 vfernandes  4 cores
17:37 vfernandes  8GB RAM
17:37 vfernandes  6.7G	/var/lib/mysql/koha
17:35 tcohen      I always lower the request count for the workers to 10 or so
17:34 tcohen      and raise 2 to 4 workers
17:34 tcohen      I'd say 4GB RAM and 2 cores
17:34 tcohen      vfernandes: it depends on many factors, can you du --si -s /var/lib/mysql/* and paste the output for the koha db?
17:32 vfernandes  *50 max-requests
17:32 vfernandes  which is the best configuration for Koha with plack? by default it uses 2 workers and 50 requests but I'm having some memory usage problems (starts to use swap)
17:31 vfernandes  hi #koha
17:29 Shane-S     I have to troubleshoot a bit I can't access it with my admin account...so I am assuming it isn't setup right
17:29 Shane-S     Joubu: MariaDB-Server package is reporting 10.0.xx
17:09 Joubu       Shane-S: the section ends with "If using > MariaDB 10.2.3 you will need to look into disabling the strict mode."
17:01 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
17:01 mtompset    @later tell khall bug 18821 Sorry had to Failed QA it due to lack of tests, and my brain isn't up to writing them right now.
16:58 Shane-S     fingers hit enter before o and tab ;) sorry
16:58 Shane-S     tcohen: Thanks
16:58 Shane-S     tch
16:57 Shane-S     I kept everything stock, I didn't have to change much I use a reverse proxy to handle the domain translations
16:57 tcohen      i'm just saying: start fresh, and migrate some changes you could've made, but start fresh :-D
16:57 tcohen      and maybe some other changes in the old koha-conf.xml file
16:57 tcohen      so keep that dump too
16:56 tcohen      but you need to keep in mind that the apache files might need some tweaking to match previous configuration
16:56 tcohen      yes, sql.gz
16:55 Shane-S     tcohen: so there are 2 files from koha-dump date.sql.gz and date.tar.gz do I only need the SQL?
16:46 Joubu       thanks oleonard
16:46 Shane-S     sql-mode is under the MySQL segment, do I need to add to the old server cnf?
16:45 Shane-S     Joubu: I am using MariaDB on new server
16:44 Joubu       Shane-S: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Ubuntu_16.04_and_MySQL_5.7
16:44 Shane-S     Joubu: I only get one result https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages and I don't see much explaination
16:44 oleonard    Joubu: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SCSS_RFC
16:38 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 6 days, 1 hour, 29 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <khall> Good plan joubu!
16:38 mtompset    @seen khall
16:33 huginn      JesseM: The operation succeeded.
16:33 JesseM      @later tell alex_a Testing mana and will have update for you soon.
16:27 Joubu       search for "sql-modes" on the wiki
16:27 Joubu       Shane-S: and add sql-modes to your DBMS config
16:25 Shane-S     tcohen ty for help so far, seems not so bad, now I just need to get the instances names correct.
16:24 Shane-S     should there be a database for each instance? I am on the old server in MySQL and I only see a information_schema db. Asking as I might need a higher level user
16:22 tcohen      zcat dump.gz | koha-mysql instance ;-)
16:21 tcohen      You use the cli to manually load the de db dump
16:21 tcohen      The SQL dump doesn't know about instance names
16:20 Shane-S     tcohen: I have 2 instances running would the be an issue, or just name them the same. Would that be done via the SQL command line or package command to load the dump into a created instance(s)
16:18 tcohen      I would rather koha-create, then load the DB dump there
16:18 Shane-S     Just checking if there is anything else I might need to complete
16:17 Shane-S     I guess I can do koha-dump then migrate files, koha-restore, koha-upgrade-schema, check for data corrupt per DBMS_auto_increment_fix article
16:14 Shane-S     So I am working on upgrading 3.20.02 from packages to a new server where I installed  17.11 ( I did apt-get install koha-common MariaDB). Will the schema transfer or do I need to do some DB work first? I know about auto_increment issue
16:04 oleonard    I can write something up though
16:04 oleonard    No it was an impromptu talk
16:04 Joubu       of*
16:04 Joubu       Are there slides on it somewhere?
16:02 oleonard    Yes
16:01 Joubu       did not you do a presentation about it during the hackfest in Marseille?
16:01 Joubu       It would make sense to me to have it on the wik
16:00 oleonard    Shall I add a comment to the bug report?
16:00 Joubu       and also explain in the release notes why we did this move
16:00 Joubu       I need to know why we need it (for 18.05? later?)
15:59 Joubu       Can you convince me we need this move? And also give us the advantages
15:59 oleonard    It's not an RFC, so I don't think it needs to provide justification. Do you feel that you need some justification as RM?
15:58 Joubu       yes
15:58 oleonard    Are you referring to this page? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Working_with_staff_client_SCSS
15:58 Joubu       yes
15:58 oleonard    Yes, but I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you asking for some justification for converting to scss?
15:56 Joubu       oleonard: did you get my later about SCSS?
15:53 reiveune    bye
15:40 tuxayo      bye #koha o/
15:32 mtompset    With this many lines of code, I think you are tripping on something if you think so. :P
15:32 Joubu       Koha is bug free!
15:31 mtompset    I'm happy with underling status. :)
15:30 mtompset    Yes, and you also get all the blame when the next release has flaw X.
15:30 Joubu       mtompset: Being RM is awsome, I have 1 SO per patch I push!
15:29 mtompset    I only split if there are lots of files.
15:29 tcohen      LOL
15:29 tcohen      divide and conquer
15:29 mtompset    And now they made you RM. :P
15:29 Joubu       it is what I have been doing for the last 5 years!
15:28 magnuse     in academia they call it salami publishing :-)
15:28 mtompset    Joubu, that is horrible.
15:28 tcohen      pleae don't :-D
15:27 Joubu       it's easy, when you write a patch try to split it as much as possible
15:27 mtompset    Signoffs at least, patches if possible. :)
15:26 mtompset    combination of both.
15:26 Joubu       signoffs or patches?
15:26 tcohen      mtompset: because he knows he commit quite a few patches for 18.05
15:25 mtompset    Because I want to maintain top 10 status. :P
15:25 Joubu       Why are you caring that much about these numbers? :)
15:24 Joubu       mtompset: it retrieves a json from the server. I guess it is not generated on the fly but every x hours
15:21 tcohen      (which is still high)
15:21 tcohen      but I was wrong, I landed a site that was charging three times the real cost
15:21 tcohen      concert
15:20 mtompset    And $110 for a ticket to where, tcohen?
15:20 mtompset    I thought that push would have tweaked those numbers.
15:19 mtompset    Also, what updates the counts in 18.05 portion of the dashboard?
15:18 mtompset    Yes, it was tz talk. Thanks for signing off / pushing  promptly.
15:09 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #421: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/421/
15:09 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:09 jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
15:06 Joubu       should your '@seen' considered as a ping?
15:04 tcohen      tz talk?
15:04 tcohen      hi mtompset
15:03 huginn      mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <tcohen> 110 U$S the cheapest ticket????? WTF
15:03 mtompset    @seen tcohen
15:02 huginn      mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 31 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <Joubu> (^ deps missing, starting a new run)
15:02 mtompset    @seen Joubu
15:02 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
14:31 Joubu       (^ deps missing, starting a new run)
14:30 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20191 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , OAI/Server.t still fails on slow servers
14:30 jenkins     * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20191: (QA follow-up) Require Jessie's Test::MockTime
14:30 jenkins     * mtompset: Bug 20191: Use Test::MockTime to hold time still
14:30 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #420: ABORTED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/420/
14:28 alex_a      bag: around?
14:27 alex_a      thx for explanations
14:27 alex_a      Joubu: got it!
14:26 Joubu       script*s*
14:26 Joubu       it's a pkg-based install, gitified, so the script need to know if they should use the "installed version" of the script/files (/usr/bin/*) or the ones in your git repo
14:25 Joubu       you need to understand what does the koha-* script and how they behave
14:24 Joubu       --dev with koha-translate it was my first answer ;)
14:24 alex_a      :p
14:24 alex_a      Joubu: i'm not reading too fast, you write too fast ok?
14:23 alex_a      But doesn't work with ./translate create|update|install
14:23 alex_a      Joubu: using koha-translate with --dev is best :)
14:22 cait        sorry, phone call in between
14:15 eythian     the Universe was in the way.
14:14 Joubu       what was wrong?
14:13 alex_a      thx Joubu cait
14:13 wahanui     But now the Universe has disappeared
14:13 alex_a      It works!
14:12 alex_a      no, did a mistake
14:10 alex_a      Ok, this give me the available action but what's next?
14:07 tuxayo      Joubu: also happened to me T_T, missed the --dev the first time
14:06 Joubu       " if you use koha-translate you certainly need to provide --dev "
14:05 alex_a      Did i read something too fast?
14:04 Joubu       sounds like everybody reads too fast here :)
14:03 alex_a      where? when?
14:03 alex_a      what is the trick with --dev ?
14:02 alex_a      yep
14:02 Joubu       it is what he did
14:02 cait        perl translate install fr-FR
14:02 cait        cd kohaclone/misc/translator
14:02 cait        kshell
14:02 cait        if koha-translate doesn't work
14:00 alex_a      trying to install a language on KohaDevBox
14:00 cait        ah i thought you were still struggling with translation scripts
13:59 alex_a      cait: at what moment?
13:59 cait        alex_a: what are you trying to do?
13:59 cait        alex_a: did you sudo and give the --dev instance?
13:58 Joubu       or you have them and the "unsupported language" error is wrong
13:58 Joubu       I do not understand why you do not have the po files for fr-FR, they are in the git repo
13:56 alex_a      and, if I do it with vagrant user: Try running this again as the koha instance user (or use the koha-shell command in debian)
13:54 wahanui     somebody said koha-shell was happier (well its 90% happy anyway)
13:54 Joubu       koha-shell
13:54 alex_a      using koha-shell
13:54 Joubu       ha
13:54 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20191: Use Test::MockTime to hold time still <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b76ad51b9d45d67746bddf27a9376e810c1b2d1e>
13:54 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20191: (QA follow-up) Require Jessie's Test::MockTime <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aaea46594215c88b4459cd882f1d869faeb2e2d8>
13:54 alex_a      update: msgattrib: cannot create output file "/home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-*.po": Permission denied
13:54 alex_a      Preferences .po file already exists. Delete it if you want to recreate it.
13:52 Joubu       so, create?
13:50 alex_a      ./translate install fr-FR => Unsupported language: fr-FR
13:49 Joubu       I guess you just need --dev actually
13:49 alex_a      create doesn't work with these po here
13:48 Joubu       alex_a: just use update then install
13:48 Joubu       alex_a: you do not need to remove them
13:47 * oleonard  suspects he knew once of the --dev flag and forgot about it
13:47 alex_a      Ok, i have to remove all fr po files first... >_<
13:46 Joubu       personally I kept my old habits and use cd misc/translate; perl translate create|update|install LANG
13:46 Joubu       if you use koha-translate you certainly need to provide --dev
13:45 alex_a      ./translate create ?
13:45 alex_a      Joubu: ?
13:45 gaetan_B    i thought those were dedicated to elastic!
13:45 nlegrand    :)
13:44 gaetan_B    damn
13:44 nlegrand    gaetan_B: the machine runs Zebra. Trying again to convince me Zebra is good enough, aren't thou?
13:43 Joubu       --create
13:41 wahanui     hmmm... really is more trouble than she's worth.
13:41 alex_a      really?
13:41 alex_a      "Koha directories hierarchy for fr-FR must be created first"
13:40 alex_a      via kshell
13:40 alex_a      oleonard: it is unable to create the directory
13:40 oleonard    alex_a: Not using the package command
13:40 alex_a      i did koha-translate --install fr-FR but nothing more in prog/ directory and same in language syspref
13:40 oleonard    alex_a: From kshell, using the translate script directly
13:39 tuxayo      I feared it was something more saucy, but it's all right
13:39 tuxayo      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=awesome%20sauce
13:39 eythian     oleonard: neopostrock will blow your mind!
13:39 alex_a      Is there a special trick to install a language on KohaDevBox?
13:39 nlegrand    oleonard: you can have all sort of music genre and add a "post" before it at some time
13:39 oleonard    nlegrand: I understand, I mean I've never heard of that music genre before
13:38 nlegrand    oleonard: sorry, is spells post-rock.
13:38 tuxayo      what is Awesomesauce anyway?
13:38 tuxayo      +1
13:37 kidclamp    gaetan_Awesomesauce? I approve
13:37 gaetan_B    i know! B is for Boring though, but maybe i can't change to gaetan_A for today :D
13:37 * oleonard  had never heard the term 'postrock' before
13:36 nlegrand    gaetan_B: how annoying
13:36 nlegrand    Joubu: with people who can't stand for long, venues where you can't sit are much more trouble than venues where you have to sit :).
13:36 gaetan_B    i've tested it here :  http://pro.es11-koha.sandbox.biblibre.eu
13:36 gaetan_B    hi nlegrand, i've been trying to reproduce your bug with 中國翻譯 on a sandbox, and it works fine, i've imported the record you sent to the list and can find it
13:32 nlegrand    If some people here like postrock, here is an awesome french postrock blog: https://totoromoon.wordpress.com/ (made by a librarian)
13:28 * kidclamp  listens to happy songs for happy people
13:25 oleonard    Thanks Joubu, that helps
13:24 Joubu       (well this will not work with the attributes (from the DB) as they are AUTOLOADed)
13:24 tcohen      110 U$S the cheapest ticket????? WTF
13:23 Joubu       oleonard: try use Data::Printer colored => 1; warn p $your_object;
13:23 tcohen      Joubu: I agree
13:23 tcohen      oleonard: it is basically the fields in the base schema file
13:22 Joubu       oleonard: contents of an object?
13:21 Joubu       tcohen: international bands come in Argentina and play in posh areas, with expensive entradas and you have to sit (!)
13:18 oleonard    Is there a good way to view the contents of an object in order to see how to get data to the template?
13:18 tcohen      Joubu: Mogwai is playing in Argentina soon
13:18 tuxayo      garantied to test everythings!
13:17 tuxayo      cat /dev/urandom | nc my-koha-server 80
13:17 pastebot    "andrew" at pasted "jquery from SWITCH" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170
13:13 * oleonard  extolls the wonders of http://www.generatedata.com/
13:11 kidclamp    I am gonna push some stuffs today or tomorrow, if it works nice I will backport it
13:11 * kidclamp  feels bribed
13:09 tuxayo      (like planned for the hackfest) I just need to make a dev env with a local LDAP which turns out to be seems  easier than I though
13:09 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18947 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Unexpected Active Directory LDAP authentication failure mode
13:09 tuxayo      kidclamp: «I could be convinced - anything that makes acq easier» I could also sign off bug 18947 ;) #sign_off_black_market
13:05 kidclamp    hi nlegrand
13:04 kidclamp    hi tcohen
13:04 nlegrand    o/ tuxayo kidclamp tcohen
13:04 tcohen      hi oleonard nlegrand kidclamp
13:04 tuxayo      hi nlegrand
13:03 nlegrand    hiya oleonard
13:03 oleonard    Hi nlegrand, tcohen
13:00 nlegrand    Good day #koha
12:58 tcohen      mtompset: why 0.17?
12:54 oleonard    Okay yeah our production db has no patrons with null userid, so my test data must include some really old records.
12:53 * oleonard  checks the production db
12:53 cait        if you leave empty int hte gui koha fills the field on saving and i think patron import does too
12:52 oleonard    Perhaps old data with patrons who never logged in to Koha
12:52 cait        beause of the recent bug with broken userid generation?
12:51 cait        but how can the patron have no userid?
12:51 cait        ouch
12:51 oleonard    Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/opac/opac-user.pl line 97.
12:51 oleonard    Use of uninitialized value $userid in string eq at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 2078.
12:50 oleonard    I get an error when I try to log in to the OPAC using a cardnumber for a patron who has no userid
12:49 cait        usually rule of thumb is that enh are not backported, up to the RMaint to grant exceptions
12:46 tuxayo      cait: it's indeed an enh
12:46 kidclamp    I could be convinced - anything that makes acq easier
12:45 cait        up to rmaint ;) j
12:45 cait        sorry, only one eye here
12:45 kidclamp    it is a very small enhancment
12:45 cait        tuxayo: it's an enh
12:43 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19953 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Master , Add column for invoice in acquisition details tab
12:43 tuxayo      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=73593&action=diff
12:43 tuxayo      kidclamp: does bug 19953 looks eligible for backport?
12:42 kidclamp    sure!
12:41 tuxayo      hi kidclamp , got few minutes?
12:40 oleonard    Did a patch recently get pushed fixing a problem with logging in to the OPAC? Or is it still pending? Or am I making that up?
12:37 cait        khall_away: do you remember which of many restrictions the patron import will overwrite if you send a date?
12:07 kidclamp    yaaas queen!
12:04 oleonard    And you are camp, kidl
12:04 kidclamp    you are rad oleon
12:03 calire      haha
12:02 oleonard    Many a browser form field tries to autocomplete 'oleonrad' because ONCE I misspelled it. Okay maybe more than once.
11:56 calire      many an email have been signed off this way
11:56 calire      :D
11:56 eythian     beware, she'll just change it again!
11:55 oleonard    I am slowly getting used to your new nick
11:55 oleonard    Hi calire
11:55 wahanui     hi olé onard
11:55 calire      hi oleonard
11:35 oleonard    Hi all
11:34 magnuse     hiya marcelr
11:06 marcelr     hi #koha
09:14 huginn      eythian: eythian was last seen in #koha 7 seconds ago: <eythian> @seen eythian
09:14 eythian     @seen eythian
09:14 huginn      eythian: eythian was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 7 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <eythian> etc.
09:14 eythian     @seen eythian
09:09 huginn      alex_a: bag was last seen in #koha 5 days, 12 hours, 43 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <bag> :D
09:09 alex_a      @seen bag
08:59 * andreashm waves
08:40 huginn      Bug 12904: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
08:40 cait        https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 found it (finally)
08:35 cait        it's in the bug that I can't find now... the one that added the versioning
08:28 cait        let me find the email
08:28 magnuse     nope
08:27 cait        do you have the rewrite rules?
08:27 magnuse     there were updates to /etc/koha/apache-shared-intranet.conf and the corresponding one for opac, but apache restart does not change anything
08:27 cait        i think you have to do it manually maybe
08:26 magnuse     should the actual apache site config have been updated?
08:24 magnuse     ah, possibly
08:23 paxed       magnuse: apache config didn't get updated?
08:18 magnuse     huh, trying to update my devbox, all css and js links have the version number in them, but come up as 404 not found?
08:10 paxed       i've always been wondering ... in search results and detail view, why are the labels black, but the actual data is light gray? the data should be more important to see clearly!
08:09 huginn      Bug 19910: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Download report as 'Comma separated' is misleading
08:09 huginn      tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
08:09 tuxayo      @later tell Joubu Thanks for making the translators happy <3 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19910#c23
07:36 calire      hi tuxayo
07:35 tuxayo      hi #koha o/
07:32 wahanui     privet, gaetan_B
07:32 gaetan_B    hello
07:14 reiveune    hello
06:31 alex_a      bonjour
05:17 cait        we always offer at least english and german and many more lanugages for the libraries of the goethe institutes
05:17 cait        no need to explain, i want it to work properly too :)
05:13 paxed       and still belong to the same consortium
05:13 paxed       on the coast, the library workers might only use swedish, but inland, only finnish.
05:12 paxed       we've got library consortiums with libraries that have both "only" finnish and "only" swedish speakers. so a single setting for the language would mess that up.
05:10 cait        will take a look - thx!
05:10 paxed       cait: see my comment on that bug
05:10 cait        give a list of languages to use in the pref?
05:09 cait        paxed: i tihnk the problem is how to know which manual languages exist
05:08 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations
05:08 paxed       Joubu: re bug 19817 - really should have an option to use the UI language as the manual language. (think about multiple official languages, user definitely wants manual in his own language)
03:13 mtompset    Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha
02:43 mtompset    Anyone care to look at my counter patch?
02:43 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20191 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , OAI/Server.t still fails on slow servers
02:43 mtompset    The master build is failing related to bug 20191.
01:38 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
01:38 mtompset    @later tell tcohen How about my counter patch on bug 20191?
01:38 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
01:38 mtompset    @later tell Joubu How about my counter patch on bug 20191?
01:35 huginn      mtompset: joubu was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen: please please please put bug 20191 on top of your todo list (or I am going to remove these OAI tests once and for all)
01:35 mtompset    @seen joubu
01:35 huginn      mtompset: I have not seen jobou.
01:35 mtompset    @seen jobou