Time Nick Message 23:51 huginn barton: The operation succeeded. 23:51 barton @later tell oleonard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcLX-9jdEAI 23:39 mtompset Not everyone is comfortable dealing with the files themselves, I like the upload plugin method provided -- once it is configured properly. :) 23:37 mtompset BTW, greetings, wizzyrea and atJano. :) 23:36 mtompset It's just security. 23:36 mtompset And it isn't streaming it... it is serving it, but just not as directly as you'd like, because you might not have put the location of the upload path/directory in a web accessible place. 23:35 mtompset It streams it, so that it is easier to add/delete files and track them. 23:32 wizzyrea and put your pdf's there 23:32 wizzyrea Alias /files/ "/var/www/files" 23:32 wizzyrea and alias that in your apache config 23:32 wizzyrea (like /var/www/files) 23:32 wizzyrea is make a new space on your web server for your files 23:32 wizzyrea instead of what you're doing 23:32 wizzyrea what you probably want to do 23:18 atJano it seens that koha/apache stream the file insted of provide direct access... 23:18 atJano hello, have anyone tried the following: host a pdf file in the koha host and use the field 856$u for access the pdf? (don't use the upload feature) 23:18 atJano it seens that koha/apache stream the file insted of provide direct access... 23:15 atJano hello, have anyone tried the following: host a pdf file in the koha host and use the field 856$u for access the pdf? 19:58 oleonard Bye all 19:53 mtompset Hope that feelings hasn't lasted this long. :) 19:52 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <cait> now i feel even worse for missing it 19:52 mtompset @seen cait 19:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:45 magnuse JesseM: been there, done that ;-) 19:37 JesseM fell 19:37 JesseM I feel asleep on the couch 19:36 JesseM lol 19:36 JesseM Was a well needed break. 19:36 magnuse maybe a spot of break dancing, even? 19:36 magnuse hope you had a good break! 19:36 JesseM :) thx magnuse 19:35 magnuse wb JesseM 19:28 magnuse did we make any progress on using the manual for the online help? 19:21 magnuse Joubu: yeah, and translate it too ;-) 18:56 Joubu that's why we should improve the manual instead 18:53 LeeJ [off] like I always say..it's like trying to herd cats :) 18:52 LeeJ believe me I know :P 18:52 magnuse these librarians keep asking too many questions ;-) 18:52 magnuse definitely interested, but not had time to look at it 18:51 LeeJ I knew you were interested in it but didn't know if you played with it..since I updated versions :) 18:50 LeeJ magnuse: https://github.com/ldjamison/koha-plugin-room-reservations 18:50 magnuse which one was that again? i probably have not had time for it 18:50 LeeJ magnuse: by the way..I've updated my plugin if you had been playing with it :) 18:50 magnuse hiya LeeJ 18:49 * LeeJ waves to magnuse 18:28 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 18:28 Joubu @later tell tcohen would you want this fancy stuffs: https://screenshots.firefox.com/vfEBhSCedAuLLCJw/pro.kohadev.org ? Or maybe you have it already? 18:28 magnuse it's just that this year it clashes with the national library conf here in norway 18:28 magnuse well, akshuly i will do my best to go every year 18:27 magnuse yes please 18:25 oleonard magnuse: If we're going to end up going on alternating years let's try to match our schedule :) 18:24 * magnuse will go to marseille next year, come hell or high water! 18:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19866 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move template JavaScript to the footer: UNIMARC editor plugins, part 1 18:24 oleonard If anyone is interested in testing Bug 19866 (or 19877, 19874, 19872, 19869, 19868, 19866), I added a more thorough test plan which can be used even if you don't have a UNIMARC system. 18:18 * LeeJ forgot Koha had a label creator 18:17 * oleonard fears things he doesn't understand 18:17 * oleonard tries to avoid the label creator if he can 18:17 barton does anyone know if it's possible to add a blank line in the format for the label creator? 18:14 * LeeJ cries for his wallet 18:14 * LeeJ cries for my wallet 18:13 oleonard Yup :| 18:12 LeeJ it's just a matter of trying to save up my own money since it couldn't be a work trip :P 18:11 oleonard That's great LeeJ. I highly recommend it. 18:10 LeeJ I plan on trying to go next year 18:08 oleonard cait: Hackfest soon!! 17:34 cait now i feel even worse for missing it 17:33 * Joubu likes the joke 17:32 cait i missed the joke... so hard to tell for me now if you are a jerk or not 17:31 tcohen I was answering cait 17:31 LeeJ tcohen: I'm aware :P 17:30 reiveune bye 17:28 tcohen because I repeated yesterday's joke 17:28 LeeJ cait: because he's a jerk for picking on me by typing #endmeeting every time I login :-\ 17:28 cait LeeJ: but why tcohen? 17:26 LeeJ I prefer open-ended so people can be...colorful..with word choice :) 17:26 cait Joubu: ping! 17:25 cait you need to give options 17:25 LeeJ :D 17:25 tcohen :/ 17:25 LeeJ #vote is tcohen a jerk? 17:25 LeeJ tcohen: ... 17:24 LeeJ cait: ping! 17:24 tcohen he 17:24 tcohen #endmeeting 17:24 LeeJ hi #koha 17:24 * LeeJ waves 16:42 tuxayo bye #koha :) 16:39 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:39 Joubu @later tell cait yep, ping me when back 16:05 atJano that's why I need to store them in a folder inside the koha server.... 16:02 kidclamp at, no, it won't do bulk uploads 16:02 atJano kidclamp i have 1000 articles, the upload tool can do bulk job? 16:01 kidclamp use the upload tool atJano 15:57 atJano hello ppl, what is the best location (folder) to store a lot pdf files (journal articles or magazine articles) laccess by field 856$u 15:15 tuxayo cait: If you are here: do we need to handle thousand separators (space included?) for now? 15:13 Abigail what to do in koha so that the user at the time of booking print receipt with data from the book, Thank you 15:11 Abigail what to do in koha so that the user at the time of booking print receipt with data from the book, Thank you 15:07 Joubu clear your cache! :D 15:06 oleonard Grab someone off the street and teach them how to sign off on Koha patches with that bug. 15:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20268 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , CSS regression: white gap on the top of the staff pages 15:06 oleonard Bug 20268 14:44 tuxayo Thanks Joubu 14:44 tuxayo NumberFormat is interesting :) 14:44 tuxayo oha: I didn't perceive any dismissiveness, don't worry ;) 14:44 mirkh Sorry about that. 14:44 mirkh Joubu: after checking more thouroughly I just want to say that my description of how I thought it was failing was incorrect. 14:25 mirkh Anyway, if a new subscription always creates a row in subscriptionhistory, then I should check that we always create a row there too when migrating a subscription. Joubu: thanks. 14:24 mirkh After some simple data mangling we still have about 4000 unique subscription patterns to deal with. 14:23 mirkh There's a lot of hand written 853 field values to parse... 14:22 mirkh :-D 14:22 oleonard mirkh: I would love to have the *option* of testing with that much data :) 14:22 mirkh oleonard: Are you sure? :) 14:21 * oleonard would love to be able to test Serials with 100,000 subscriptions in sample data 14:21 mirkh Ok 14:20 Joubu I am talking about subroutines in C4/Serials.pm 14:20 mirkh Joubu: (because we have migrated over 100.000 subscriptions, but still testing) 14:18 mirkh Joubu: (You are talking about a command line API, not the web interface, right?) 14:17 mirkh Ok :) But I'll check the API. Perhaps it can teach me something :) 14:17 Joubu (luckily) 14:17 Joubu I do not migrate data 14:17 Joubu no idea 14:16 mirkh (in migration) 14:16 mirkh Joubu: Even when adding old subscriptions from our old system? 14:15 Joubu mirkh: you should use Koha API to insert the data (NewSubscription subroutine). It will take care of that 14:13 mirkh Ok. Then maybe it is the fault of our migration, that we have subscriptions with no history, which breaks that select statement. 14:12 Joubu I have created a new subscription and I have one line in subscriptionhistory 14:12 mirkh Error message says subscription-detail.pl: Use of uninitialized value $subscriptionid in hash element at /usr/local/koha/C4/Serials.pm line 301. 14:11 mirkh It has the subscription info, but in the link "OPAC view" there is no biblionumber added to the link. 14:10 mirkh I mean the subscription-detail page 14:10 Joubu mirkh: what is the "result page"? 14:08 Joubu oleonard: ho right, I got it this morning too :) 14:08 Joubu oleonard: It happened to me few days ago, I have just tried again few times and it worked 14:07 mirkh :D 14:07 oleonard Joubu: Happens every day. However, I don't remember how long it's been since I destroyed and recreated. 14:06 Joubu mirkh: the serial module is bug free, so it cannot be a bug 14:05 Joubu oleonard: try again? :) 14:04 Joubu "1 blockers 2 criticals, 23 majors." Most of them are waiting for a signoff. Could you all take care a bit of them? 14:04 mirkh then the result page lacks information. If this is a bug and not a fault of our data, I can add it to bugzilla. 14:04 oleonard ^^ Is that a problem? 14:04 mirkh Hi! I would like someone to check if I found a bug or if it's just our data that is inconsistent. In koha/C4/Serials.pm in sub GetSubscription the select statement selects from several tables. The result from field subscriptionid is returned twice, one from table subscription and one from table subscriptionhistory. When there is no subscription history second version of the subscriptionid field is NULL, and 14:04 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "vagrant up messages -- 404 error?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 13:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to customize and display the symbol for a currency 13:56 Joubu and bug 4078 is more of less related as well (in term of currency configuration) 13:56 oha it does the formatting, not the other way around, but maybe it's a good starting point to find something more 13:56 Joubu tuxayo: Koha::Number::Price uses Number::Format, as well the TT plugin 13:55 Joubu (just to add one more to your list :D) 13:55 oha tuxayo: just found this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/NumberFormat 13:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17098 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Validation problems with form field type "number" (decimal separator) 13:54 Joubu tuxayo: looks like related to bug 17098 as well 13:47 oha I believe a fields for the cents is good enough. but YMMV 13:47 oha tuxayo: sorry, i didn't mean to sound dismissive. 13:41 tuxayo oha: thanks for raising this potential issue, I'll be careful. 13:39 oha tuxayo: not to me to say 13:25 tuxayo Can we find somewhere information about that? That's critical to know because that's excludes a lot of solutions. (more broad topic than the decimal separators) 13:25 tuxayo oha: Maybe it's wiser to handle the 10th and 5th in the third patch? 13:23 oha *shrugs* 13:23 tuxayo oha: Koha support disabled JS in the staff? 13:23 oha it is just to help understanding you mean 050 if you type 50 and we expect /1000 13:22 oha no, but it doesn't matter. the server has to do the same in case js is disabled 13:20 tuxayo oha: «on focus lost» Does it's still work if the user press «enter» while the focus is still in the field? 13:20 oha I'm just giving my 20 thousandths here 13:20 oha but I haven't followed the discussion on the ML (alas! I know!) 13:20 oha maybe a formatter in js could pad the missing zeroes on focus lost 13:19 oha so if you type 50 in the /1000 field, you know you mean 0.050 13:18 oha if you have a table for all the currencies, and based on the currenty you have an optional secondary field with a label, then that second field might be "[ ... ] /1000" or "[ ... ] cents/pennies" or "[ ... ] /5" 13:17 tuxayo Joubu: I was hoping to find a simple fix to handle the worse part of the bugs (decimal truncation and x100 of the amounts) while a super complete solution while be ready (in a very long time). 13:14 petter For inspiration, check out the source code for the number formatters from the ICU project.. I guess it should be fairly complete, taking into account all locale information 13:14 oha tuxayo: luckily, there won't be fractional numbers of bugs on this... 13:13 tuxayo And the others I haven't found yet. Are there others actually? 13:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input 13:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Pay fines not accepting ',' for EUR currency input 13:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Plack config: Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments 13:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Dot not recognized as decimal separator 13:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19521 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Partial fine payment is not working with comma decimal separator 13:13 tuxayo Joubu: It's about bug 19521 bug 18723 bug 18186 bug 17462 bug 12310 13:13 oha TIL 13:13 eythian oh, tuxayo beat me to it. 13:13 oha Joubu: not sure. i jumped in explaining why you should not expect only cents 13:13 eythian oha: New Zealand has a 45 minute tz 13:12 tuxayo oha: Even 45 min round timezones actually https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-interesting.html 13:12 Joubu what's the context of this discussion, is it related to a patch? 13:10 oha tuxayo: oh yes. they even invented "half hours" timezones... so expect the worst, always 13:09 tuxayo oha: You mean a country that invent something else? (now I know what my next nightmares will be about) 13:09 oha OTOH, 99.9% of the cases are probably in the first 2 categories, so you might want to propose 2 fields and the second accept cents 13:09 Joubu the code of this in/out stuff is scary (cf ML) 13:08 tuxayo ^^ 13:08 oha tuxayo: yeah exactly. and hopefully it won't change anytime soon 13:08 tuxayo s/that/than 13:08 oha the good news is that i can't find other cases than 1) no decimal, 2) cents, 3) thousandths 4) fifths 13:08 tuxayo oha: actually I'm relieved that there is nothing else that 1000th, 100th 10th and 5th. It could have been worse. 13:07 oha tuxayo: usually there are few hundreads, of which most of them fails in several cases.... :( 13:06 tuxayo oha: Maybe there a JS library that magically handles everything? ^^" 13:04 oha maybe 3+4/5 13:04 oha but i guess i would say 3 4/5 13:03 oha i found the info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circulating_currencies 13:03 oha i don't know. i've never been there 13:03 tuxayo oha: how do you write "three and four fifths" in Mauritania 13:01 oha if you know upfront the locale, you can parse a string properly tho 13:01 Joubu hi #koha 13:01 oha tuxayo: and in mauritania you might have to write 2/5 :) 13:00 tuxayo indeed 13:00 tuxayo oha: oh noooooo T_T 13:00 oha tuxayo: no. if i type 50, do i mean 0.050 or 0.50 ? 12:59 tuxayo Using a separate field is inconvenient for pasting and copying. 12:59 tuxayo oha: If the decimal field lets type 3 digits, then it's okay for all use-cases isn't it? 12:44 oha (actually there are 2 that use fifths) 12:43 oha the idea of using a secondary field for cents is great, but there are a bounch of currencies that use thousandths instead, and it will make it messy 12:42 tuxayo hi oleonard , hi tcohen_ 12:41 tuxayo That's why I'm hoping to split the issue in two to fix the truncations and x100 case before the rest (1.000,5) 12:41 tuxayo «it's all over messy. I think the more simple the solution, the better» +1 12:41 tuxayo «it might depend on the browser or if javascript is involved before it's send?» No JS involved AFAIK, but yes it depends of the browser. Do you remember which caused problems to check if that's still valid. 12:41 tuxayo «we shoudl allow comma - just think not at the same time allow» Then I could tweak your regex do to that. Would such a patch be okay (I fear the "ultimate patch" will take a lot of time to be ready) 12:41 tcohen morning 12:41 tuxayo cait: 12:40 tuxayo I'll send part by part 12:40 tuxayo Oh no... 12:40 oleonard Hi all 12:40 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-03-01_12:40:04.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NiDPejUNUeSWBfykmPcqLqRq> 12:38 Bhavesh KOHA is working on "localhost" 12:38 Bhavesh any one can help, I like to link OPAC with web site of the LIBRARY, Please 12:37 Bhavesh Hello Friends 12:04 eythian what is the nature of the changes? 11:59 atJano I select do save link as to compare with the original and they have some lines changes (I use the winmerge to compare files) 11:58 atJano It's starts to open but then stops and the body it's worng... 11:48 cait in which way changed? can't be opened? 11:48 cait if you don't use the feature in Koha 11:48 cait i don't thin it's changed by Koha 11:42 atJano everything works but the file that koha shows is changed by KOHA/apache 11:41 atJano i mounted a shared directory windows 2013 that as the pdf files 11:40 atJano version 17.11, I don't use the upload feature also 11:38 cait what version of Koha? what means not showing correctly? 11:38 cait but i think you need to give more information too 11:38 cait atJano: sorry, we don't use the upload file feature 11:38 atJano it seens that koha/apache has made changes to the file 11:37 atJano I have compare both files (the one displayd by KOHA /apache and the original from CIFS) and they are diferent 11:37 atJano hi ppl, can someone help? I have a cifs share for access some pdf files link to bibliorecords, but the pdf doesn't show correctly. 11:31 cait bbl 11:30 cait that's my horror stories for today ;) 11:30 paxed same 11:30 cait i prefer 2 a bit because we also have a global setting for how to display 11:29 cait (browser language = template language) 11:29 cait 2) have a global setting 11:29 cait and either 1) make it dependent on the browser language and react to it (bit dangerous as we'd need to know what each language expected) 11:28 cait i think overall: allow one valid format for input (don't try 'accept all and Koha will figure it out) 11:27 cait but you can also enter 1 11:27 cait hm the last 2 numeric 11:27 paxed i'd test for non-alphanum before "00" at end of string, then that's the cents or whatever, the rest gets non-numeric chars stripped ;P 11:25 cait tuxayo: it's all over messy. I thinkt he more simple the solution, the better 11:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments 11:24 cait tuxayo: bug 18186 11:24 paxed cait: officially "1 234,56 €" 11:23 cait when turned to german, we suddenly had , and also problems with input 11:22 cait it seems hard to believe, but the locale chosen for plack changed the appearance of amounts in the KOha GUI 11:22 kidclamp cait just separate the dollars and cents fields, make it two inputs :-b 11:22 cait we definitely had problems with it and then plack made things worse 11:22 cait tuxayo: it might depend on the browser or if javascript is involved before it's send? 11:21 cait tuxayo: i think we shoudl allow comma - just think not at the same time allow . :) Have a pref to set it to the kind of formatting you want to allow and use that everywhere, like we do for dates 11:21 oha I wish one day we all agree in ISO dates and using dots for decimal separator and only ' for thousands, if any :) 11:21 tuxayo cait: even if we type "," Firefox sends a "." to the server. (with type="number") Was that with other browsers? 11:20 cait paxed: what kind of formatting is right for Finland? 11:20 paxed oh boy. 11:20 cait and it got a bit lost 11:19 cait that's also why I had to patch it quickly 11:19 cait we've had a lot of fun with that kind of problems when implementing Koha for the Goehte libraries 11:18 cait because it doesn't understand , as decimal separator 11:18 cait the validator forces you to use , and then koha truncatesit 11:18 cait koha doesn't aceept it 11:18 tuxayo thanks for BZ 17098 11:17 tuxayo About type="number" that means that enough users don't type number consistently with the language of the interface? 11:17 tuxayo cait: too much user don't thinks about trying "." when seeing a truncated amount. 11:17 cait found it 11:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17098 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Validation problems with form field type "number" (decimal separator) 11:17 cait bug 17098 11:16 cait well or switch to English templates before doing anything with money... but that's not really nice 11:15 cait and remove the HTML5 number 11:15 cait it works currently if you stick to . 11:15 tuxayo cait: «'allow it all' leads to problems along the road» → More problems than the current? (trucation and x100 to some sums) 11:15 cait sorry for typos :) 11:14 cait having to wrtie them as i see with thousand separators optional 11:14 cait that's why i think tying currencyformat = display and input together could make sense 11:14 kidclamp et al 11:14 kidclamp morning cait 11:14 cait the currencyformat pref has swiss now too 11:13 tuxayo cait: swiss: only handwrited maybe (hopefully) 11:12 cait i think swiss is 1'000,00 11:12 cait that's why i think 'allow it all' leads to problems along the road 11:11 khall 1,000.50 in US 11:11 khall right cait 11:11 tuxayo T_T 11:11 tuxayo ↑another example 11:11 cait 1.000,50 in German 11:11 tuxayo cait: 1,000.40 ? 11:11 cait decimal and thousand separators 11:11 cait german and US are good examples because between them it's just switched 11:11 cait yes, and 1000 in german 11:10 tuxayo cait: 1.000 is one in the US right? 11:10 cait khall: right? 11:10 cait 1,000 = 1000 in US 11:10 cait ah sorry 11:10 cait in acq for example 11:10 cait what happens if an american library enters 1.000 (thousands separator) 11:10 tuxayo cait: Why? 11:10 cait what I said earlier - I don't think you can allow comma and . at the same time 11:09 cait the problem is that the browser tries to be super clever - changing the input format around depending on the language in the body 11:09 cait it won't work with 'number' 11:09 cait and have it correctly deducted from an existing fine 11:08 cait install german templates, try to enter 1.10 11:08 cait tuxayo: the problem is ont too strict validation - it made it impossible to enter amounts 11:07 cait it was the fastest 'hot fix' I could come up with 11:07 cait tuxayo: yes 11:06 tuxayo paste: this only accepts "." right? 11:06 tuxayo cait: the 2 other tabs already work like that. (type="number") Would it be acceptable to have a bit too restrictive validation (to get rid of the truncating and x100 bug) ? While a more flexible validation will be developed. 11:05 cait Joubu: ping me when you are around plz? 11:05 cait morning kidclamp 11:04 cait i am quite sure i brought it up at a meeting, not sure why I didn't patch it properly in the end 11:04 cait tuxayo: http://paste.koha-community.org/59 11:02 cait but can't spot the right bug right now where it hought i had fixed it... maybe i only did it locally *hides* 11:02 cait tuxayo: i think it will apply whenever you enter decimal 11:00 cait switch to english, . 11:00 cait so if you look at german templates, the form thing expects , as separator and will complain otherwise 10:59 cait the problem is that it changes validation depending on the language you select 10:59 cait tuxayo: i will try to dig up the bug 10:57 cait sorry, was afk, reading back, will answer 10:56 * tuxayo <3 lists.koha-community.org (mailman) that sends periodically an email with my password in it. 10:52 atJano I have compare both files (the one displayd by KOHA /apache and the original from CIFS) and they are diferent 10:52 andreashm Good. I'll ping him as well. 10:52 atJano hi ppl, can someone help? I have a cifs share for access some pdf files link to bibliorecords, but the pdf doesn't show correctly. 10:51 khall ah, yes. I'll have to ping Tomas about that. Better make sure it still applies! 10:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype 10:51 andreashm khall: you haven't heard of any progress for bug 19469 have you? I saw Tomas now listed as QA contact. 10:51 khall I'm happy to talk. I've been geeking over this stuff for years now 10:50 khall lol : ) 10:50 andreashm Ignore me. =) 10:50 khall it's like an 'undo' button where reverse just turns a payment into a fine of the same amount 10:49 andreashm ah it logs! perfect 10:49 khall it's a much cleaner implementation, puts everything back the way it was, and logs the voids in both the fines log and the account offsets 10:49 andreashm Difficult to track if something goes wrong. 10:49 khall Voids are meant to get rid of the mess that reverse has ; ) 10:49 andreashm As an administrator of such things, payments that are made and then cleared away again, would not be ideal. 10:48 andreashm Void payments also seem scary to me. The reverse payment option already creates a mess. (Or maybe this functionality would take care of that?) 10:47 andreashm ok. 10:47 khall andreashm: that bug fixes a long standing issue where account credits never go away. Right now in Koha if you owe $10 and have a $10 'credit' your account will be 0, but you still owe the $10. That bug just says 'pay off the $10 fee with the $10 credit so everything is nice and proper again' 10:47 tuxayo The idea was that it be a fix while BZ 12310 is finished (which could take time: functional decision if this is indeed what we want + QA work to validate that the technical solution is correct) 10:47 tuxayo cait: are their issues with <input type="number">? 10:46 andreashm the way amount outstanding _works_ I intended to write 10:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to use up account credits 10:45 andreashm khall: am I reading it correctly that bug 18805 would change the way amount outstanding? I don't know if I am to fond of that idea. 10:44 andreashm khall: good! but partial payments could be affected? 10:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input 10:43 tuxayo Indeed it's not as versatile as bug 12310 10:43 khall cait: what are you looking for ; ) 10:43 tuxayo cait: avoid the html5 feature really? That's what I was going to propose T_T 10:43 khall andreashm: it shouldn't affect that, the accountlines table remains essentially untouched 10:42 tuxayo cait: maybe I can fix bug 18186 by the same occasion. 10:42 andreashm Must see how this change affects our heavy use of api call for fines (accountlines) 10:42 * cait looks at khall for that 10:41 cait s 10:41 cait and we need to avoid the html5 feature 10:41 khall andreashm: still plenty of bugs to go thought ; ) https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=18786 10:41 cait input as you display it makes the most sense 10:41 cait i think the cleanest option for nice would probably to tie it the currencyformat pref 10:41 andreashm Nice. We hope to upgrade to 17.11 in the summer. 10:41 cait accept , and . as separators the same time 10:41 khall it's in 17.11+! 10:41 andreashm khall: ah! 17.11? 10:41 cait my thinking is, we can't have both 10:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments 10:41 cait bug 18186 10:41 atJano I have compare both files (the one displayd by KOHA /apache and the original from CIFS) and they are diferent 10:40 khall andreashm: the account offsets is in Koha now! 10:40 * andreashm haven't been paying attention to that lately 10:40 andreashm how are things progressing with the accounts offsets table? khall? =) 10:40 cait tuxayo: we have a reoccurring problem with Plack and fines 10:40 tuxayo cait: that's what I meant also. I case the UI was going to change there. 10:40 cait andreashm: but any detail questions you shoud ask khall ;) 10:39 cait andreashm: with the accounts offsets table things shoudl get more manageable for partials 10:39 khall hi! 10:39 cait tuxayo: meant the partial payments 10:39 tuxayo hi khall 10:39 atJano hi ppl, can someone help? I have a cifs share for access some pdf files link to bibliorecords, but the pdf doesn't show correctly. 10:38 khall mornin! 10:38 magnuse hiya khall 10:37 andreashm hi khall 10:36 andreashm I applaud the effort! 10:36 tuxayo cait: is there work in progress there? Because that might change my plans to fix the separator issues in paycollect.tt 10:33 cait it should get better 10:32 andreashm Mmm, partial fine payment, my favorite function. *Irony* 10:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input 10:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Pay fines not accepting ',' for EUR currency input 10:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Amounts with decimal comma instead of decimal dot breaking payments 10:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Dot not recognized as decimal separator 10:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19521 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Partial fine payment is not working with comma decimal separator 10:30 tuxayo T_T 10:30 tuxayo Decimal separator issues are a mess. Does anyone know if there are other bugs than bug 19521 bug 18723 bug 18186 bug 17462 bug 12310 10:29 magnuse hi tuxayo 10:28 andreashm hej magnuse! 10:28 tuxayo hi andreashm hi magnuse 10:27 magnuse hiya andreashm 10:27 tuxayo whoops, fixed nick ^^ 10:26 andreashm hi tuxayo_afk 10:25 tuxayo_afk hi #koha o/ 10:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype 10:04 andreashm oh, good, bug 19469 now has a QA contact! I now know who to bug! (pun intended) =) 10:03 cait and that if you found the article and are redirected to the serial, it seems kind of silly for the user to rhave to enter the information again manually from the record they just visited (article title, pages, etc.) 10:02 cait my point was that a request directly on a separately catalogued article might be what libraries want in some cases 10:02 cait ? 10:02 cait marcelr: was not talking abut acq itemsß 09:59 * andreashm waves 09:22 paxed anyone got that in any of the 041 fields? ;) 09:21 paxed tlh - Klingon (Artificial language) 09:20 drojf hi marcelr 09:19 marcelr hi drojf 09:13 marcelr cait: didnt fully get your point on acquisition items on the art request enhancement; i am just interested in separately catalogued records for articles in serials 09:12 marcelr hi cait 09:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 09:11 cait @later tell LeeJ can you ping me when around? I'd like to ask something about your work on plugins :) 08:50 oha now works for me too 08:48 LibraryClaire oha seems to work for me 08:48 oha is bugzilla down? 08:41 LibraryClaire hi gaetan_B 08:29 gaetan_B hello 08:17 magnuse the coconuts are just asbout ripe here 08:17 eythian here the seagulls and other waterfowl are slowly being compressed into the unfrozen parts of the canals. 08:17 magnuse it sure is! 08:16 eythian magnuse: looks pretty tropical there. 08:15 huginn LibraryClaire: Konstanz, Germany :: Snow :: 20F/-7C | Wind Chill: 13F/-11C | Thursday: Cloudy with snow showers mainly during the morning. High 34F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulations less than one inch. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Hard freeze expected. Low 21F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. 08:15 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 08:07 marcelr sounds like norway 08:06 magnuse "Thursday Night: Bitterly cold." eh? 08:06 huginn magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 28F/-2C | Wind Chill: 23F/-5C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun. High around 30F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Bitterly cold. A few clouds. Low 18F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. 08:06 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara 08:06 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 08:04 magnuse i might be a bit confused by *miles* per hour 08:04 magnuse hehe 08:04 marcelr hi magnuse : you cant have it all 08:03 magnuse with that wind i would have expected even more windchill? 08:01 eythian yep, definitely nice windchill 08:00 huginn eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Partly Cloudy :: 21F/-6C | Wind Chill: 4F/-16C | Thursday: Windy with a mix of clouds and sun. High near 30F. Winds E at 25 to 35 mph. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies with gusty winds. Low 17F. Winds E at 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. 08:00 marcelr nice wind chill 08:00 eythian @wunder amsterdam 08:00 eythian marcelr: well, I just biked to work. I'll be staying inside for the next while :) 07:57 huginn paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Mostly Cloudy :: 3F/-16C | Thursday: Overcast. High 13F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Bitterly cold. Cloudy. Low 4F. Winds light and variable. 07:57 paxed @wunder joensuu 07:54 marcelr stay inside ;) 07:54 eythian (not here though, doesn't look safe here yet.) 07:53 eythian marcelr: you should be out skating on the ice! 07:52 marcelr o/ 07:52 alex_a hello LibraryClaire marcelr 07:51 reiveune \o_ 07:51 LibraryClaire :) 07:51 marcelr hi LibraryClaire 07:51 LibraryClaire hi marcelr, reiveune, alex_a 07:49 marcelr hi #koha 07:41 alex_a bonjour 07:39 reiveune hello 07:36 LibraryClaire hey magnuse :) 07:18 magnuse \o/ 06:14 petter good morning 06:02 fridolin hi 04:00 CSS i have issues with bringing my server online