Time  Nick           Message
07:35 reiveune       hello
07:52 alex_a         bonjour
08:24 gaetan_B       hello
08:36 eythian        hi
08:37 tuxayo         hi #koha o/
08:37 tuxayo         hi eythian , hi gaetan_B :)
08:39 petter         hi!
08:47 oha            how is ./tools/inventory.pl used?
08:48 LibraryClaire  hi #koha
08:51 eythian        hi LibraryClaire
09:27 LibraryClaire  hi eythian
09:28 eythian        there's a funny article here about people experiencing the cold snap as down to -30, just because it hasn't been this cold in ages and they've forgotten what it's really like.
09:28 eythian        (it's only getting like -4 with windchill to -9 at the moment.)
09:28 LibraryClaire  @wunder konstanz
09:28 paxed          @wunder joensuu
09:28 huginn         LibraryClaire: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 17F/-8C | Wind Chill: 5F/-15C | Tuesday: Mainly cloudy. High near 20F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Hard freeze expected. Low around 10F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
09:28 huginn         paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Clear :: 0F/-18C | Wind Chill: -15F/-26C | Tuesday: Abundant sunshine. High near 5F. Winds light and variable. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Hard freeze expected. Low -13F. Winds light and variable.
09:28 eythian        @wunder amsterdam
09:28 huginn         eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Partly Cloudy :: 27F/-3C | Wind Chill: 16F/-9C | Tuesday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. A few flurries or snow showers possible. High 32F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. A few flurries or snow showers possible. Low 21F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph.
09:28 LibraryClaire  it was -11 when i went to work this morning and there is wind, it hurts my face
09:29 eythian        yeah, I had a lovely headwind coming in this morning. Coulda done without that.
09:29 paxed          hm. was -34 with wind chill earlier
09:29 LibraryClaire  the edges of the lake have started freezing over but the wind will stop it freezing completely, so no ice skating
09:31 LibraryClaire  The shock is partially cos it was like 10 degrees in January ^^
09:31 eythian        yeah, they've banned boats from some canals around these parts and have stopped the water flowing, in order to try to make it freeze.
09:32 eythian        I'm sure it got up to like 14 or so for some days here. Everyone was like "well, that's winter over"
09:32 LibraryClaire  yeah quite
10:10 magnuse        @wunder bodo
10:10 huginn         magnuse: Bodolz, Germany :: Partly Cloudy :: 19F/-7C | Wind Chill: 10F/-12C | Tuesday: Sun and clouds mixed. High 21F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Hard freeze expected. Low near 10F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph.
10:10 magnuse        @wunder bodo, norway
10:10 huginn         magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Clear :: 25F/-4C | Wind Chill: 11F/-12C | Tuesday: Plenty of sunshine. High 26F. Winds E at 15 to 25 mph. Tuesday Night: Bitterly cold. Some clouds. Low 19F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph.
10:13 eythian        magnuse: it's almost warmer there than here, which is not right
10:14 magnuse        true
10:14 magnuse        the other day, the warmest place in norway was longyearbyen, svalbard/spitzbergen...
10:48 cait           hi #koha :)
10:50 magnuse        hiya cait
10:50 magnuse        hm, when you click to confirm a hold and print the HOLD_SLIP it looks like the email template is chosen, not the print one?
10:51 magnuse        anyone else seen that?
10:52 petter         @magnuse, yes, it's rather confusing
10:52 huginn         petter: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
10:52 magnuse        is there an existing bug report for it? i couldn't find one
10:52 cait           yes
10:53 cait           the slips all use email not print and there is a bug
10:53 cait           because the email existed before there was print and we missed changing it
10:54 magnuse        ah
10:56 magnuse        bug 13498 maybe?
10:56 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 minor, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ISSUESLIP, ISSUEQSLIP use 'email' template for print.
11:09 magnuse        oops, that bug was reported on 2014-12-29
11:23 oha            magnuse: it might have... slipped out of mind... :o)
12:35 cait           oha: too easy to work around it
12:35 oleonard       Hi all
12:35 LibraryClaire  hi oleonard
12:35 cait           hi oleonard
12:39 magnuse        hi oleonard
13:06 oha            I'd like to give a quick update on my work to merge deleted* tables
13:06 oha            i have a git branch here, you can peek the changes so far: https://gitlab.deichman.no/digibib/Koha/compare/master...bz20271-merge_deleted_tables?view=parallel
13:07 oha            let me know if you want to know more about it, i'm happy to share thoughts
13:08 cait           less changes than i would have epxected
13:10 Joubu          oha: is there a bug report opened?
13:11 oha            Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271
13:11 huginn         Bug 20271: major, P1 - high, ---, oha, NEW , Merge deleted/old tables with their "alive" cousins
13:11 oha            cait: only items, biblio, biblioitems and biblio_metadata
13:11 oha            and i might have missed something, yet i can't find it
13:11 oha            also, i haven't run the tests
13:12 Joubu          this is not related to biblio/deletedbiblio only, are you going to open another one?
13:12 oha            cait: old_issues is the scary one tho... that will be painful
13:13 oha            Joubu: i don't understand you. i haven't finished. just sharing what i did so far
13:13 Joubu          "This bug is about merging the all these tables:"
13:13 Joubu          ha
13:13 Joubu          I thought you were going to submit patches on separate bug reports
13:14 Joubu          like 1 for items/biblio, 1 for issues and 1 for reserve
13:14 oha            I don't see the point
13:14 oha            most of them will intersect
13:14 oha            but i am doing one at a time of course
13:14 Joubu          hum ok, sorry I do not have time to explain you now
13:14 Joubu          but I think you should consider it
13:15 Joubu          if you provide 10 patches with a 1k lines diff, it will take ages to get it in and will scare people
13:16 Joubu          if patches from different bug reports conflict, you can use the "depends on" fields to create a tree
13:16 oha            Joubu: so far is 68 lines addition and it cover 3 tables. not sure where you get the idea of 10 patches of 1k each
13:17 Joubu          ok
13:18 oha            but if people are scared to test it, then we do have a problem, yes
13:38 marcelr        hi #koha
13:39 marcelr        thx Joubu++ #20075
13:41 marcelr        oha: dont scare the qa team too ;)
13:43 tcohen         hi
13:50 jenkins        Yippee, build fixed!
13:50 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #385: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/385/
13:51 Joubu          tcohen++
13:54 cait           oha: i think do as Joubu suggests
13:55 cait           use one bug as omnibus and let us tackele one after the other
13:55 cait           starting with biblio
13:55 cait           then building items in another bug
13:59 cait           Joubu: thx for the comments and sorry for my confusing one - I think it's more clear now. maybe we shoudl add some notes to the sypref - will look into that
14:03 cait           @wunder konstanz
14:03 huginn         cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 21F/-6C | Wind Chill: 10F/-12C | Tuesday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. High around 20F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Some clouds this evening will give way to mainly clear skies overnight. Hard freeze expected. Low near 10F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
14:06 oha            cait: i thought about it. we discussed it here. but i have only 3/4 weeks before i leave. I can't wait for one to be out before tackling the second
14:06 eythian        https://nltimes.nl/2018/02/27/amsterdam-starts-closing-canals-skating-ice-form oh wow, they're actually freezing
14:06 cait           oha: the resut will it won't be included
14:07 cait           what's better?
14:07 cait           give us hwat you have no for biblio/biblioitems
14:07 cait           and we can start there with testing
14:07 cait           while you work on items
14:07 oha            right now i have biblio, biblioitems, bibliometa and items
14:07 oha            it's in the patch
14:07 cait           there is a long history of big patches getting lost in nirvana
14:07 magnuse        oha: are you sure you want to touch biblio_metadata?
14:08 magnuse        the marcxml was pulled out of biblioitems quite recently
14:08 oha            cait: it is not that big and if you see the patch, it gets better after the patch
14:08 cait           magnuse: for merging he needs to
14:08 oha            magnuse: i have to, why?
14:08 cait           we have deleted_biblio_metadata
14:08 magnuse        ah, ok
14:08 magnuse        never mind
14:08 cait           :)
14:08 oha            i honestly think you overestimate the complexity of this
14:08 cait           oha: the testing is that worries me :)
14:09 magnuse        i thought of merging biblio_metadata with biblio or something like that
14:09 cait           even if the code changes are small, we do need to do a lot of testing
14:09 cait           keeping it a bit in one area makes that a ton easier
14:09 oha            cait: yep :(
14:09 oha            but you will have to test if the catalog works (items) even if i change only biblio
14:09 cait           so i think maybe not split table wise
14:09 cait           but split borrowers into another bug
14:09 oha            cait: yes
14:09 oha            i already suggested it on the wiki
14:09 cait           and than issues as a third one
14:09 cait           ok
14:10 oha            borrowers are not worth fixing (it takes 2 minutes, but it carries lots of issues)
14:10 cait           biblio bilbioitems something metadata is all one thing actually
14:10 cait           why not worth it?
14:10 cait           we discussed some issues there yesterday with link getting lost because of the split tables
14:11 oha            cait: yes but if we flag deleted patrons, then you will have lots of unique constraints to be deal with
14:11 cait           hah
14:11 oha            otoh, i can't find anything using deletedborrowers
14:11 cait           reused cardnumbers
14:11 cait           userid
14:11 cait           i see what you mean
14:11 oha            yup
14:11 cait           so it will be really hard to fix this
14:11 oha            OTOH it is "easy" to  merge
14:11 oha            not like the other tables
14:12 oha            so if you want, it will be easy (like 4/5 lines changes)
14:12 oha            but it will take forever to deal with those issues.
14:12 tcohen         oha, cait: we'll test it all the needed time
14:12 oha            so not worth for me to focus on it the last weeks :) (very blunt here, sorry)
14:13 cait           tcohen: we will, i was just wondering how to split it up so it's not so big chunks to test
14:13 oha            old_issues on the other hand is entangled everywhere, so it will take quite a while for me to make it works
14:13 oha            and it won't carry many issues
14:13 oha            well, probably :)
14:13 oha            but seriously, check the patch i pasted above. it is way easier than you think
14:14 oha            i also think there are bugs already that we are not aware of. like report that miss data if it was deleted but it shouldn't
14:22 Freddy_Enrique Good morning koha
14:22 Joubu          "SOUL export does not work"
14:23 Joubu          How people can use a software which does not export their data?
14:23 marcelr        Joubu:  print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (Bug 19290 - Add system preference BrowseResultSelection)\n" in 17.12.00.21
14:23 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19290 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Browse selected biblios - Staff
14:23 marcelr        wrong bug
14:23 marcelr        should be 13287
14:23 magnuse        Joubu: because they don't think about export until they need it?
14:24 Joubu          marcelr: erk, thanks
14:24 Joubu          magnuse: that should be the first thing to think about :)
14:24 magnuse        true
14:25 magnuse        around here, libraries can get their data out, but they have to pay a lot of money for it - nice businessmodel :-(
14:25 magnuse        kia ora NateC!
14:26 NateC          kia ora magnuse!
14:26 magnuse        \o/
14:26 Joubu          marcelr: added to my-next-stuffs-to-push branch
14:27 marcelr        ok
14:47 matheiok       hello, since last updating my sql database koha can't connect anymore. is this a know issue? wher could i find a solution?
14:49 tcohen         Joubu, can we try the ng branch for the master task?
14:49 tcohen         I'm sure it is ready
14:49 Joubu          tcohen: do you want me to update the jenkins config?
14:49 tcohen         you should replicate what's in Koha_Master_TOmas
14:49 Joubu          matheiok: what is the error?
14:50 matheiok       DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: Access denied for user 'koha_library'@'localhost' at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1492. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 100
14:50 Joubu          tcohen: should not you merge my PR before?
14:50 matheiok       i'm running koha on ubuntu with maria
14:50 tcohen         matheiok: 17.05?
14:50 Joubu          tcohen: or you prefer after?
14:50 tcohen         I've just seen that
14:51 tcohen         Joubu: tests are run in a different way, so I think I should take care, all at the same time
14:51 tcohen         please don't push in the meantime :-D
14:51 Joubu          k
14:52 tcohen         Joubu: I will point the task to the ng branch, if it runs correctly I will merge ng->master
14:53 matheiok       during update it told me that it can not merge the database and that it'll be moved to a backup location. so i copied the directories back after update was done
14:58 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #386: FAILURE in 1 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/386/
14:59 cait           Joubu: can we teach reset_all to set *baseurls correctly? :)
14:59 tcohen         cait: it knows
14:59 cait           never works for me
14:59 cait           ah
14:59 cait           because in kohadevbox?
14:59 tcohen         set | less
14:59 cait           http://catalogue.kohadev.vm < doesn't work
14:59 tcohen         and search for reset_all
15:00 cait           where?
15:00 cait           i am not good with searchign from command line :(
15:00 tcohen         set | less
15:00 tcohen         then
15:00 tcohen         slash
15:00 tcohen         /reset_all
15:00 matheiok       @ tcohen i think its 17.11 but after i updated i got another error whenever i tried to access the userpages:
15:00 huginn         matheiok: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:00 cait           there is only reset
15:01 matheiok       Template process failed: undef error - DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Expression #1 of SELECT list is not in GROUP BY clause and contains nonaggregated column 'koha_library.me.id' which is not functionally dependent on columns in GROUP BY clause; this is incompatible with sql_mode=only_full_group_by at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 129
15:01 tcohen         below
15:01 matheiok       so i thought ok, sql trouble... updated maria and then no access at all...
15:01 tcohen         cait: I'd suggest you exit kohadevbox shell
15:01 tcohen         then git pull
15:01 cait           you might have to set mariadb to not be strict
15:01 tcohen         and vagrant provision
15:04 matheiok       i favor just starting from scratch again... but i all the sql-dumps already seam "compromised" and i can't find the folders anymore, which were created during update
15:05 matheiok       *seem
15:05 Joubu          matheiok: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Ubuntu_16.04_and_MySQL_5.7
15:07 Joubu          cait: yes confirmed, what tcohen said
15:07 cait           tcohen++
15:07 cait           yep checked with him in pm - i think i need to fix users.yml
15:07 cait           matheiok: it's not your data
15:08 cait           it's queries in Koha not working in strict mode - especially those group by ones
15:08 cait           you need to change your dbms settings until we got them all fixed
15:08 cait           check the link Joubu gave you
15:11 Joubu          cait: actually we have bug 20229 now, but it's not backported yet
15:11 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20229 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Remove problematic SQL modes
15:14 matheiok       ok, i'll try with the link provided.
15:14 matheiok       thank you
15:21 cait           why is our rss so horrible?
15:37 dersmon        something that confuses me: how do i run an empty search in the intranet?
15:37 dersmon        *
15:37 dersmon        does not work
15:37 marcelr        i always look for a
15:37 cait           there is a zebra trick to do it, but it's too complicated to remember
15:38 cait           i look for de because of the marcorgcode starting with it for us
15:38 marcelr        no need to touch the shift key too
15:38 tcohen         ''
15:38 marcelr        too hard
15:39 tcohen         a
15:39 marcelr        does not work btw
15:39 marcelr        two quotes
15:39 tcohen         yeah
15:39 marcelr        depends on zebra settings?
15:39 dersmon        ok, but that's kind of hacky
15:39 * cait         just signed super easy obvious fix bug 19797 - someone qa?
15:39 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19797 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Subscriptions to email notifications for new serial issues are broken
15:40 dersmon        and does not return everything
15:40 * tcohen       wonders QueryAutoTruncate mangling the empty input
15:40 dersmon        not necessarily everything
15:40 marcelr        cait: if it is super obvious you pass qa on it
15:40 cait           i've never jumped qa...
15:41 cait           but tempted
15:41 marcelr        try it
15:41 cait           you are bad influence
15:41 cait           :P
15:41 marcelr        sure
15:41 marcelr        cait: if it isnt the RM will be the guard
15:42 cait           the RM wrote the patch
15:42 cait           he might be biased
15:42 marcelr        hmm
15:42 marcelr        that does not help ;)
15:42 dersmon        what about elastic search? can you run an empty query there?
15:43 cait           dersmon: what do you want to do?
15:43 cait           empty queries usually don't work in library catalogs to be honest
15:44 dersmon        oh, ok
15:44 dersmon        hm, i am the codemonkey, maybe you are right
15:44 dersmon        in vufind you can just run an empty query
15:45 dersmon        and it returns everything
15:45 cait           Koha usually is better than most, but there is currently no easy way to
15:45 cait           yeah true :)
15:45 cait           i mean that vufind can do it
15:45 cait           i recently broke another ils catalog by searching for 'the'
15:45 dersmon        it would just be nice when i want to see everything that is indexed
15:46 dersmon        right now i am not 100% sure
15:46 cait           i have something i use for checking hte index
15:46 cait           sec
15:46 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #387: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/387/
15:46 cait           i compare select count(*) from biblio with the result from
15:46 cait           allrecords,AlwaysMatches=""
15:47 cait           but beware, if you are using OpacSuppression you have to compare with the intranet search to make sure nothing is suppressed
15:47 cait           I think i got that one from jcamins++
15:48 dersmon        ok
15:48 dersmon        thanks  ;)
15:49 dersmon        but thinking about it now: you are right - library catalogs are rather strict compared to internet searches
15:49 dersmon        never thought about that
15:54 cait           where are you from dersmon?
15:55 cait           hm no wahanui
15:55 dersmon        wahanui?
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 19979: ->count and be called directly on Koha::Objects <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae9a246840296f2356952df42d5926c8264e9232>
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 13287: Fix DBRev message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df666bcab60636eb2b2fc6c87b870bd6782cc3a6>
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20290: Fix capitalization of "Routling List" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bc1a8daa209c2596d10076b8a292dddc7b4e947>
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20201: Silence warnings triggered by admin/aqplan.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5db35e919a5a786337615d925da8becaf64bb63c>
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20147: Allow translating prompt in label edit batch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dea5572991b0f5130ee365eb173a46bfdc60093e>
15:55 cait           our bot, i wanted to teach it a factoid
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20142: Allow translating offline circ message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e476fe45713c51413445da22af50819856a6f02>
15:55 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 19979: Fix get_facets_info test in Search.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=670712e57cbd197339d5ead5332b4ffd79bf22b8>
15:56 dersmon        berlin
15:56 cait           ah cool :)
15:56 cait           Konstanz
15:57 dersmon        :)
16:00 notarock       Is there anything I should know before rebasing https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12446 ? Looks like a hard job since the patch got dirtier with every rebases :/
16:00 huginn         Bug 12446: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.audet-fortin, Patch doesn't apply , Enable an adult to have a guarantor
16:07 Joubu          notarock: bug 16846 and related
16:07 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move patron related code to Koha::Patron
16:08 * cait         wonders why she has branchtransfers where to and from library are the same :(
16:08 cait           that does seem impossible
16:08 Joubu          and s/canbeguarantee/can_be_guarantee
16:10 Joubu          cait: related to bug 19530?
16:10 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19530 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item
16:12 cait           Joubu: problem is not multiple, but transfer from A to A
16:13 cait           i am not sure how they managed to do that
16:13 cait           no... actually... I got NO idea
16:13 cait           .... maybe i will just filter them out for the report
16:43 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #388: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/388/
16:43 jenkins        * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13287: Fix DBRev message
16:43 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20147: Allow translating prompt in label edit batch
16:43 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20142: Allow translating offline circ message
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to define the number of days used in purge_suggestions.pl
16:43 jenkins        * m.de.rooy: Bug 19979: Fix get_facets_info test in Search.t
16:43 jenkins        * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19979: ->count and be called directly on Koha::Objects
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20147 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating prompt in label edit batch
16:43 jenkins        * katrin.fischer: Bug 20290: Fix capitalization of "Routling List"
16:43 jenkins        * mtompset: Bug 20201: Silence warnings triggered by admin/aqplan.pl
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20142 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating offline circ message
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19979 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Search.t fails on facet info with one branch
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20290 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Fix capitalization: Routing List
16:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20201 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Silence warnings in admin/aqplan.pl
17:29 reiveune       bye
18:45 mtompset       @seen drojf
18:45 huginn         mtompset: drojf was last seen in #koha 1 day, 12 hours, 2 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <drojf> my face almost fell off when i went for a walk last weekend :/
18:46 mtompset       Well, that would be bad!
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20302: Allow translating Delete button in Patron batch mod tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cbf5a4363b9553f099aa842a01688e866adb690>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20301: Allow translating "View" in manage MARC import <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee33f6f8cc94e2a1213f804c39ed4c060dae2e5e>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20296: Untranslatable "All" in patrons table filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=348fd052830c8fabed72cd4f679bc506f26b07f0>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20295: Allow translating link title in ILL module <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df8bac232eed0f99468cb4aa1909100a5856076f>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 19610: Make koha-common.logrotate use copytruncate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1c75f7bb54e8bc1a7f4a2aec293a2291dcd27be>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20234: Update service description in koha-common.init <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a204a15c4b771bd43460913ee98d6632c17d3b8>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20234: Make maintenance scripts use koha-zebra instead of koha-*-zebra <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e95698b4a4f373160adc7827a5434dd2c4560b>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20218: Fix matching of uri in tracklinks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0eb7bf0caf286e4503f94de869b64f48cc020a24>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20141: Untranslatable string in transport cost matrix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=239106ea05f91eeb2ee125e898b2c3a70554afd3>
18:59 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 20139: Improve MARC mapping translatable strings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b3771d1e47fb97d1763de276a49f6aa69cd46e>
19:02 Joubu          khall: use Koha::Patron::Images; # maybe it was on 18786 then
19:02 khall          Joubu: I'll take a look at that
19:03 khall          Joubu: yes, I see it
19:08 mtompset       khall, can't remember why I wanted to ask you something, but oh well. Hi. :)
19:09 mtompset       Ohright. I remember now, and you put a patch up. :)
19:18 * mtompset     smirks.
19:18 mtompset       khall, "America/Toronto" generates noise on a updatedatabase.pl
19:19 mtompset       MySQL doesn't like full named timezones unless you have a particular table or something.
19:19 khall          hmm
19:20 khall          " Consult your operating system documentation for legal time zone specification formats."
19:20 khall          thanks mysql docs!
19:22 khall          it looks like we could convert the timezone name to an offset instead using DateTime, what do you think of that mtompset ?
19:22 mtompset       Hmm...
19:23 mtompset       Whatever doesn't generate noise.
19:23 mtompset       And makes sense.
19:24 mtompset       And also, perhaps put dummy value, even commented into the koha-conf files too. :)
19:24 khall          not sure what you mean be dummy value
19:25 khall          you mean like an example?
19:25 khall          can do
19:25 khall          mtompset: can you fail qa and add those needs to the bug?
19:26 mtompset       Something, such that a person reading the koha-conf file would know what to do to get a timezone line. :)
19:38 khall          yeah, it's a good idea
19:46 Joubu          [off] may be good to stop answering "out of the scope" everytime I post a comment ;)
19:49 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #389: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/389/
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20295: Allow translating link title in ILL module
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20296: Untranslatable "All" in patrons table filter
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20139: Improve MARC mapping translatable strings
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating link title in ILL module
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20141: Untranslatable string in transport cost matrix
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20301: Allow translating "View" in manage MARC import
19:49 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20302: Allow translating Delete button in Patron batch mod tool
19:49 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 20218: Fix matching of uri in tracklinks
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable "All" in patrons table filter
19:49 jenkins        * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20234: Make maintenance scripts use koha-zebra instead of
19:49 jenkins        * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20234: Update service description in koha-common.init
19:49 jenkins        * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 19610: Make koha-common.logrotate use copytruncate
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20139 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Improve MARC mapping translatable strings
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20141 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable string in Transport cost matrix
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20301 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating "View" in manage MARC import
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20302 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Allow translating Delete button in Patron batch mod tool
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20218 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Tracklinks fails when URL has special characters
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20234 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Make maintenance scripts use koha-zebra instead of koha-*-zebra
19:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19610 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Make koha-common.logrotate use copytruncate
19:52 Joubu          tcohen: ^ that's weird
19:53 tcohen         Joubu: that's out of the scope dood
19:55 Joubu          I did not have the full log
19:55 Joubu          so it's not weird
19:56 Joubu          @later tell tcohen I did not have the full log so it's not weird. I have asked for another build
19:56 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:58 mtompset       [off] Joubu you could always change the title, and make it in scope. :P
20:03 Joubu          [off] Contrary to popular opinion my goal is not to bother people, but keep things consistent and more or less stable ;)
20:16 mtompset       [off] We know, but it is annoying to have your work questioned constantly. :P
20:19 Joubu          it should not
20:20 Joubu          I like to get feedback on my work/approach
20:27 mtompset       Sent an email to koha-devel list. Hopefully, something of mine will get signed off. :)
20:28 mtompset       These were part of my dockerize koha journey thus far. It would be nice not to hack something together.
20:28 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha Joubu
20:41 jenkins        Yippee, build fixed!
20:41 jenkins        Project Koha_Master_D8 build #390: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/390/
21:02 * cait         waves
21:26 lo             in which table the users are stored, thanks
21:31 cait           borrowers
21:31 lo             thanks
21:34 lo             when a book is booked this is not available to do in koha, thank you
21:39 cait           sorry, lo, I don't understand
21:40 tcohen         hi
21:41 lo             create users from webservices, thanks
21:44 tcohen         lo, it is not easy to follow what you're sayiing
21:44 tcohen         create users from webservices when booking a book?
22:13 notarock       I have found an old reference to GetMemberAccountRecords in my code... This that get moved to Koha ? I can't find anything related to records in koha::Patron // Koha::Patrons
22:14 notarock       Did that get moved to* Whoops, typo
22:20 cait           try a search in on bugzilla maybe?
22:20 cait           ALL GetMemberAccountRecords
22:21 cait           hm
22:21 cait           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12001
22:21 huginn         Bug 12001: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetMemberAccountRecords slows down display of patron details and checkout pages
22:21 cait           this is the one you are looking for
22:22 cait           Koha::Account::Lines;
22:25 cait           notarock: ?
22:51 tcohen         next meeting?
22:51 tcohen         next dev meeting?
22:52 cait           necxt meetings?
22:52 cait           ah no wahanui
22:52 cait           wah
22:55 notarock       Thanks that was helpfull cait :)
23:00 cait           np :)
23:00 cait           ALL lets you find resolved bugs
23:00 cait           it's often helpful looking for older stuff
23:21 cait           good night #koha
23:22 notarock       Gn