Time  Nick            Message
23:27 cait            i am trying to add another condition authorised_value !=""
23:27 cait            $mss = Koha::MarcSubfieldStructures->search({ frameworkcode => $fw, kohafield => 'items.materials', authorised_value => { not => undef } });  ... if someone has an idea
23:18 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19911 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Passwords displayed to user during self-registration are not HTML-encoded
23:18 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters
23:18 jenkins         * chrisc: Release notes for 16.11.16
23:18 jenkins         * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 16.11.16
23:18 jenkins         * chrisc: Increment version for the 16.11.16 release
23:18 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Escape password value during self-registration confirmation
23:18 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Do not escape html characters when saving passwords
23:18 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19738 minor, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , XSS in serials module
23:18 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl
23:18 jenkins         * josef.moravec: Bug 19738: Fix XSS on vendor name in serials module
23:18 jenkins         Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #99: SUCCESS in 2 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/99/
22:35 wahanui         there is one... but i don't know it
22:35 cait            still there?
22:33 cait            and we are only checking for null possibly?
22:33 cait            the problem is i think that authorised_value is ""
22:31 cait            it returns 1
22:31 cait            that's frm me trying to figure things out
22:31 cait            hm ignore the data dumper line
22:30 cait            i pasted the code where the problem is in the last comment
22:30 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20067 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Authorised values for ORDER_CANCELLATION_REASON are displayed on notice (catalogue/detail.pl)
22:30 cait            bug 20067
22:30 Joubu           shoot
22:30 Joubu           qhoot
22:30 cait            would you have a moment to look at something with me?
22:30 Joubu           cait: more or less
22:27 cait            ?
22:27 cait            Joubu: still aroundẞ
22:01 LeeJ            no, thank YOU kellym :)
22:00 kellym          thanks leej
21:58 LeeJ            thanks for joining today everyone :)
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21:58 LeeJ            #endmeeting
21:58 LeeJ            #info Next meeting: 22 March 2018, 14 UTC
21:57 LeeJ            sounds good!
21:57 kellym          oh okay - that is fine
21:57 LeeJ            the webinar will be separate :)
21:57 LeeJ            kellym: the 22nd would be for the next documentation IRC meeting
21:57 kellym          it doesn’t work for me - but could you record leej?
21:56 cait            works for me
21:56 LeeJ            March 22nd @ 14 UTC sound good?
21:55 LeeJ            gives people time to get home/recover from hackfest
21:55 LeeJ            hmm..maybe we should just shoot for March 22nd?
21:55 LeeJ            oooh
21:54 cait            bit unpredictable until it happens
21:54 cait            it's barcamp style
21:54 LeeJ            was there an itinerary sent out via email?
21:53 cait            we could try, but depends on other presentations being during the same time or lunch :)
21:53 Joubu           people could learn about documentation related stuffs?
21:52 cait            i think the timing would be bad for the hackfest
21:52 Joubu           CET is UTC+1 actually
21:52 LeeJ            haha you read my mind. I was JUST going to ask
21:51 Joubu           French tz is utc+2
21:51 LeeJ            ooh good point
21:51 Joubu           can be good during the hackfest :)
21:51 LeeJ            then we can just schedule it for the week after hackfest
21:50 LeeJ            hmm
21:50 wahanui         184884258895036416
21:50 Joubu           12 to 16
21:50 LeeJ            I wanna go to it next year :(
21:49 LeeJ            do you know the dates of hackfest?
21:49 Joubu           may be good/bad during the hackfest?
21:49 LeeJ            alright..I think because the May release gaining on us quickly perhaps the 2nd week of March..any conflicting holidays?
21:47 LeeJ            #topic Set time of next meeting
21:47 LeeJ            okay..since no one has anything further
21:46 caroline        :)
21:46 LeeJ            caroline: I know :) and the input/reminder is appreciated!
21:46 LeeJ            unless anyone has last minute additions?
21:46 caroline        ok, I was just mentionning it so we think about it, not to get an answer today
21:45 LeeJ            okay...I think everything's been covered
21:45 LeeJ            caroline: I don't have an exact answer at the moment, but as soon as I do have an answer I'll relay it to everyone
21:44 LeeJ            I think that's something I might have to sort out with Joubu
21:44 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations
21:44 LeeJ            #info also it's critical to provide feedback on Bug 19817 for Joubu
21:43 caroline        yes, but will they be automated? Is that something you will cover in the webinar?
21:43 LeeJ            caroline: that's definitely a topic I want to cover in the zoom webinar I'll be scheduling!
21:42 caroline        What about new features? How do we say to add a screenshot for this or that if it isn't already in the manual?
21:42 cait            ok
21:42 Joubu           let start with the ones we can generate :)
21:42 cait            pages that are not koha, enhanced content (needs keys etc)
21:41 cait            but what about the screenshots we can't generate?
21:41 cait            it got lost in the netsplit
21:41 LeeJ            #info read over the information at this link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html and let Joubu know if what he suggests is a possible solution (i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills). Notify Joubu ASAP
21:40 Joubu           i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills
21:39 Joubu           LeeJ: for the automated screenshots: I need to know if what I suggest is a possible solution
21:39 LeeJ            did I miss anything?
21:39 LeeJ            so to summarize... Joubu needs help from the community to work on getting the documentation/help files/screenshots automated, etc. I'll be sending out an email next week to coordinate a webinar on kohadocs as well as I'll add our dediced policies about non-customized Koha to be used for all screenshots
21:38 georgew         _everybody_ got disconnected
21:37 cait            sorry got disconnected
21:37 * cait          waves
21:37 rangi           nope, that needs to be automated too
21:36 Joubu           rangi: What I said: but pootle is not updated
21:36 LeeJ            that was weird..I've never been here for that.
21:36 LeeJ            some never left it seems
21:36 Joubu           pfiou
21:36 wahanui         and forth.
21:36 Joubu           back?
21:35 LeeJ            don't you mean a splitpocalypse georgew? :)
21:35 LeeJ            ..if they do :O
21:34 LeeJ            I'll wait until people come back
21:34 georgew         irc apocalypse
21:34 LeeJ            ooh
21:34 rangi           netsplit
21:34 LeeJ            no clue..
21:34 kellym          what happened?
21:33 LeeJ            uhh
21:33 LeeJ            To summarize (please point out if I've missed something)...
21:32 LeeJ            #topic Next steps
21:32 LeeJ            okay..moving on then
21:32 rangi           yeah it allows people to see if the changes they made look good
21:32 LeeJ            anyone have anything else? :)
21:32 LeeJ            that's very convenient
21:31 LeeJ            #info the manuals are automatically updated now since 18.05 and 17.11. As soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages
21:31 rangi           etc
21:31 rangi           https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/
21:31 rangi           https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/zh_TW/html/
21:31 rangi           for 18.05 and 17.11
21:31 LeeJ            rangi: not that I can recollect..? But that's fantastic
21:30 rangi           has anyone mentioned the manuals are automatically updated now, as soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages
21:29 LeeJ            but let me know what you need me to do and I'll be more than happy to
21:29 LeeJ            I just realized I don't remember seeing it because I had my bugs list filtered to a folder
21:29 LeeJ            well I am willing to help with what I can per that mailing list email Joubu
21:28 LeeJ            hmm
21:27 Joubu           it's the general mailing list
21:27 caroline        Joubu, you should send emails to the general mailing list. I notice this one is the bugs mailing list?
21:26 LeeJ            I see
21:26 Joubu           for instance
21:26 Joubu           http://download.koha-community.org/manual/wip_screenshots/ar/html/02_administration.html
21:25 Joubu           there are links to the different manuals at the end of the email
21:25 * LeeJ          feels sheepish
21:25 Joubu           for the first screenshots I generated automatically
21:25 Joubu           there are examples for ar, en, es, it, pt_BR and zh_TW
21:25 cait            i am not sure - maybe only a max size?
21:24 Joubu           maybe you should just read my emails
21:24 LeeJ            Joubu and cait..what are your thoughts on requiring a uniform screenshot size?
21:23 kellym          yes true- leej
21:23 LeeJ            kellym: that would make sense to me..however are there any cases (wide pages, etc.) where uniform image sizes would make the screenshot unreadable?
21:23 Joubu           lol
21:22 wahanui         For now...
21:22 Joubu           m23_: it works
21:22 m23_            how we can help with it?
21:22 kellym          leej do you think there should be something about standard size of images also?
21:22 LeeJ            alright..I think that covers what I had in mind. I plan on also covering information on the kanban during the zoom webinar
21:22 m23_            It can work, I think
21:21 wahanui         even better is what oleopard said just after that
21:21 cait            even better
21:21 cait            ah :)
21:21 cait            LeeJ: do you want me to add a note on the wiki?
21:21 LeeJ            #info LeeJ will add the policy to the wiki of using non-customized Koha screenshots for documentation to keep documentation images uniform
21:21 Joubu           boxes == HTML elements
21:21 Joubu           we screenshot boxes (with class or id), so the sizes can vary
21:20 LeeJ            cait: right..now it's coming back to me :)
21:20 LeeJ            #info https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html contains information about the idea of automatically generating screenshots
21:20 m23_            some languages are longer, other shorter .. how solve this in automatic way?
21:20 cait            but i don't think we put it on the wiki
21:20 cait            LeeJ: we agreed on it at the last meeting
21:20 Joubu           nobody reads my emails :-/
21:19 Joubu           m23_: same link
21:19 Joubu           which would lead to autogenerated screenshots, updated from one version of Koha to another, and for any languages
21:19 LeeJ            ahh
21:19 Joubu           the idea was to provide a way to generate screenshot automatically
21:19 m23_            what about screenshots in other languages in manual?
21:18 LeeJ            thanks for bringing that up kellym! Joubu, do we have a written policy in place about using non-customized Koha for images/screenshots? I don't recall seeing one
21:18 kellym          thanks joubu
21:18 Joubu           https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-January/049807.html
21:17 kellym          joubu I don’t remember seeing an email- can you send it to me?  kelly@bywatersolutions.com
21:17 LeeJ            #info LeeJ will send out an email the week of February 26th to determine the best meeting time for a webinar
21:17 kellym          yes screenshots of koha.  it was also discussed to have images/screenshots of koha without customizations.
21:17 wahanui         I haven't seen 'my', Joubu
21:17 Joubu           Seen my emails to the list about manual screenshots?
21:17 Joubu           of Koha?
21:17 wahanui         screenshots are best
21:17 kellym          screenshots
21:16 kellym          leej++
21:16 Joubu           kellym: what kind of images do you want to add?
21:16 kellym          great idea!  leej
21:16 LeeJ            I figured I'd take a page out of BWS' playbook :)
21:16 cait            ah yep :)
21:16 kellym          definitely!  yes there is a video on adding content but not adding images.  I had problems with the steps on the wiki…so I would love a webinar leej
21:15 LeeJ            kellym: yes I remember that meeting note. I had actually thought about it and realized it might be more effective having a recorded webinar to work from
21:15 wahanui         somebody said editing the manual was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
21:15 cait            editing the manual?
21:15 cait            editing manual?
21:15 cait            there is a video linked on the wiki page: edit manual?
21:14 kellym          yes I would be interested leej especially adding images to the manual
21:14 kellym          leej i would say at one meeting awhile back it was talked about creating a vidoe about the process
21:14 cait            LeeJ++
21:14 georgew         I'd be interested
21:14 LeeJ            so I'm prepared to offer a Zoom session/webinar to anyone interested in order to help
21:14 LeeJ            okay..so it appears as though some/most who have a desire to help write documentation don't understand the gitlab workflow
21:13 LeeJ            #topic Workflows
21:12 LeeJ            #info Bug 19817 is still in discussion. Joubu wants to provide patches for 18.05 but needs feedback from the community to do so
21:12 Joubu           I wanted to provide patches to have something ready for 18.05, but without feedbacks I cannot
21:11 LeeJ            does anyone have any updates, news, etc.?
21:11 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations
21:11 Joubu           bug 19817 is in discussion
21:11 LeeJ            okay
21:11 Joubu           nope, I do not
21:11 LeeJ            Joubu: I'm going to assume you may have news about the help files?
21:10 LeeJ            #topic What's been done so far
21:10 LeeJ            cool
21:10 LeeJ            everyone present and accounted for?
21:10 LeeJ            hi all and welcome to the meeting...again, sorry about the last one. That was on me :)
21:09 m23_            # Michal Denar, KohaCZ
21:09 rangi           #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ
21:09 kellym          #info kelly mcelligott bywater solutions
21:09 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
21:09 georgew         #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
21:09 caroline        #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro (Canada)
21:09 LeeJ            #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University
21:09 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
21:09 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
21:09 LeeJ            #topic Introductions
21:09 LeeJ            kellym my pleasure! :)
21:08 kellym          thanks! leej
21:08 kellym          leej I didn’t get the message ! That merge request was from awhile ago!
21:08 huginn`         The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018'
21:08 huginn`         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:08 huginn`         Meeting started Thu Feb 22 21:08:35 2018 UTC.  The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:08 LeeJ            #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018
21:08 Joubu           yep
21:08 LeeJ            okay..we've waited long enough I think
21:07 LeeJ            kellym: hi :) I noticed in gitlab that you had submitted a merge request..rangi had commented that it might need to be rebased. Didn't know if you got the message about his comment :)
21:05 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19847 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , tracklinks.pl accepts any url from a parameter for proxying
21:05 jenkins         Jonathan Druart: Bug 19847: Track links within the records and 404 for others
21:05 jenkins         Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #98: SUCCESS in 2 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/98/
21:04 LeeJ            I'll give 1 more minute for the late-comers..because I've been one of them :P
21:04 LeeJ            yayy
21:03 * cait          is here
21:02 LeeJ            yes
21:01 * LeeJ          shuffles notecards
20:58 LeeJ            I'll wait 5 minutes to give people time to filter in :)
20:57 LeeJ            though that IS one way to get people active ;)
20:57 LeeJ            oh dear..what have I done lol
20:57 cait            20!
20:57 Joubu           has to signoff 10 patches
20:56 LeeJ            haha
20:56 cait            that woudl make chairing hard for me :)
20:56 Joubu           what would happen to the looser?
20:56 * LeeJ          thinks we should start a tradition of rolling initiative at the start of IRC meetings
20:56 cait            i have flashbacks
20:55 cait            ...
20:55 huginn`         cait: 6
20:55 cait            @dice 1d20
20:55 huginn`         Joubu: 14
20:55 Joubu           @dice 1d20
20:55 LeeJ            COME ON
20:55 huginn`         LeeJ: 7
20:55 LeeJ            @dice 1d20
20:55 huginn`         Joubu: 7
20:55 Joubu           @dice 1d20
20:55 cait            paralyzed
20:55 huginn`         cait: 8
20:55 cait            @dice 1d20
20:55 LeeJ            if that was a save roll I'd be dead
20:55 Joubu           lol
20:55 LeeJ            >_>
20:55 huginn`         LeeJ: 1
20:55 LeeJ            @dice 1d20
20:55 Joubu           less dangerous than roulette....
20:54 huginn`         Joubu: 4 and 4
20:54 Joubu           @dice 2d6
20:54 * LeeJ          realizes the time and scrambles to get ready
20:51 kidclamp        blanks, yeesh, what's a guy go to do to get kicked
20:50 huginn`         kidclamp: *click*
20:50 kidclamp        @roulette
20:50 huginn`         kidclamp: *click*
20:50 kidclamp        @roulette
20:50 huginn`         kidclamp: *click*
20:50 kidclamp        @roulette
20:50 * huginn`       reloads and spins the chambers.
20:50 huginn`         *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
20:50 kidclamp        @roulette
20:50 huginn`         kidclamp: *click*
20:50 kidclamp        @roulette
20:47 * cait          takes it away from bag
20:46 huginn`         bag: *click*
20:46 bag             @roulette
20:46 cait            now i feel super guilty for not doing any qa today - thx ;)
20:46 LeeJ            I agree with bag
20:45 bag             because you’re awesome
20:45 cait            hm?
20:44 bag             cait++
18:34 huginn`         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:34 Joubu           @later tell tcohen: t/db_dependent/Koha/Object.t is expecting Koha::Exceptions::Object::FKConstraint if Koha::Patron->store is called with a non-existing category, but t/db_dependent/Members.t expect a Koha::Exceptions::BadParameter if AddMember is called with a non-existing cat... Hum? :-/
18:28 tcohen          later #koha
17:59 LeeJ            hi #koha
17:59 * LeeJ          waves
17:39 tuxayo          bye #koha o/
17:15 Joubu           you will get "Username/password already exists"
17:15 Joubu           fill surname, and leave blank "userid/login"
17:15 Joubu           create a patron "organisation": you will not see the firstname field
17:13 tcohen          Joubu: what are you talking about?
17:11 Joubu           ha... it only happens when surname/firstname are not filled
17:08 Joubu           the message is wrong, but what is supposed to be the behaviour?
17:07 Joubu           when I create a patron without userid
17:07 Joubu           "
17:07 Joubu           Username/password already exists.
17:07 Joubu           I get "
17:06 Joubu           :)
17:06 wahanui         maybe is a momentaneous error
17:06 Joubu           maybe...
17:06 Joubu           ha... no ... it's a feature
17:06 Joubu           ha no, it's a bug
17:06 Joubu           it's a feature
16:16 reiveune        bye
15:19 paxed           magnuse: ah, didn't know that. we don't have any libraries with names starting with The Wrong Kind of letter :P
15:13 paxed           (we've got 3 frameworkcode names that start with 'Ä', and the cataloguers are annoyed)
15:10 Joubu           paxed: patrons yes, we cannot sort them after they have been retrieved from the DB
15:08 * magnuse       wanders off
15:08 magnuse         and library names in the items table, according to one swedish library
15:07 paxed           Joubu: well, there's the framework names, and i believe patron names, that are affected by this.
14:46 tuxayo          kidclamp: thanks
14:35 cait            bbiab :)
14:35 cait            the typo one has been annoying me forever
14:34 cait            it's alright :)
14:34 oleonard        cait: Those easy bugs were too tempting when it was the end of the day and my brain was fried
14:33 cait            hi oleonard :)
14:33 oleonard        Hi cait
14:32 * cait          waves
14:04 kidclamp        ideally you would test all the options just to ensure I didn't break anything unintentionally, but if any other option worked it would seem features are intact
14:01 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13560 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , need an add option in marc modification templates
14:01 tuxayo          kidclamp: hi :) Can you confirm in bug 13560 if my tests seem enough for you? My uncertainly about that might deter a QA member to take this bug.
13:58 kidclamp        hi tuxayo
13:58 huginn`         tuxayo: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 55 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <kidclamp> 'catalog-way' is always how I read that
13:58 tuxayo          @seen kidclamp
13:50 marcelr         be careful ;)
13:50 blou            I'lll try that, marcelr
13:35 marcelr         copy the marcxml from the old record and run touch biblios, that kind of approach ?
13:34 blou            *sigh*
13:34 marcelr         but you are in a bad situation then
13:34 marcelr         kind of dangerous
13:33 blou            got all i need, i think.  Beside that the status fields might have been modififed since, which makes it ugly
13:33 blou            I have older backups
13:33 marcelr         but items are no longer in the xml
13:32 blou            yeah....  I'm lazy :)
13:32 marcelr         backup and partial recovery..?
13:31 blou            Yeah, the other way around, I could use batchRebuildItemsTables.pl
13:31 blou            User messed up, deleted stuff.  I recovered the items table, but the marcxml has been modified to reflect records without items.  Now I have the items, DB is ok, but the marcxml can't be indexed
13:30 marcelr         blou: marcxml should be leading
13:29 marcelr         hi khall
13:29 tuxayo          eythian: thanks :)
13:29 marcelr         blou: should be the other way
13:29 khall           mornin all!
13:29 blou            Sorry to barge in:  anyone can direct me to the script that "rebuilds the marcxml from the database content" ?
13:28 marcelr         :)
13:28 blou            Hi marcelr!
13:28 blou            Hi marcel!
13:28 marcelr         hi blou
13:28 marcelr         the idea is merge 2000 recs at night
13:28 blou            Holà #koha
13:28 marcelr         it is either immediate or postponed
13:27 wahanui         somebody said something was fishy
13:27 marcelr         or something
13:27 marcelr         mergelimit
13:27 marcelr         you have pref controlling it
13:27 tcohen          the merge, scheduled to be ran in a shorter term?
13:26 marcelr         what do you mean
13:26 tcohen          shouldn't it be immediate?
13:26 tcohen          right
13:25 marcelr         debian/koha-common.cron.daily
13:25 marcelr         tcohen: merge_authorities
13:24 tcohen          marcelr: merge_authorities.pl is a mandatory cron but not added automatically by the packages?
13:13 Joubu           IIRC it does not work for éèçà either
13:12 Joubu           paxed: we usually resort things in perl or via the DataTables JS plugin
13:10 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow selecting default collate rule
13:10 paxed           magnuse: see bug 20269
13:08 marcelr         tuxayo: and PVOD is very old :)
13:07 Joubu           fridolin: then read the 3 comments above
13:06 eythian         Plain Old Documentation
13:06 fridolin        with shorter regexp
13:06 Joubu           tuxayo: POD==doc
13:06 fridolin        Joubu: "query parameters don't necessarily bypass the cache" ? i dont see the link
13:05 fridolin        Joubu: ah nope i look
13:05 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
13:05 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20259 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Shorter JS and CSS rewrite rule
13:05 fridolin        ah oki thaks
13:05 Joubu           tuxayo, fridolin: in the context of bug 20259, did you see bug 12904 comment 117?
13:03 LibraryClaire   lol
13:03 oleonard        kidclamp++
13:02 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups
13:02 tuxayo          What is a POD? (It's mentioned few times in bug 19008)
13:02 kidclamp        'catalog-way' is always how I read that
13:02 eythian         kidclamp spells catalogue wrong, remember.
13:01 Joubu           thanks kidclamp
13:01 kidclamp        commented Joubu
12:55 Joubu           or any English native speakers around
12:54 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups
12:54 Joubu           kidclamp, khall: can you take a look at bug 19008 comment 25 please?
12:41 wahanui         hi olé onard
12:41 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard
12:40 wahanui         hi olé onard
12:40 tcohen          hi oleonard
12:39 oleonard        Hi all
12:22 cait            kidclamp++
11:54 jenkins         * Nick Clemens: Update release notes for 17.11.03 release
11:54 jenkins         * Nick Clemens: Increment version for 17.11.03 release
11:54 jenkins         * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 17.11.03
11:54 jenkins         Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #29: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/29/
11:10 cait            true :)
10:54 tuxayo          Now even if one's breaks Koha's CSS, the staff interface still has a decent look https://screenshots.firefox.com/iNdKgL69i4tYUkqP/koha-master
10:36 wahanui         it has been said that dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell
10:36 fridolin        dpkg?
10:17 * cait          too
10:15 * tuxayo        loves git bisect
09:57 huginn`         cait: The operation succeeded.
09:57 cait            @later tell oleonard stealing my easy bugs? ;)
09:56 cait            i think others will be interested too and i'd like to be mor ehelpful in testing patches
09:56 alex_a          cait++
09:56 cait            alex_a: i just added a topic to the hackfest file :)
09:54 magnuse         could it be an option to do it via an sql file in the language specific folders below installer/data/mysql/?
09:54 magnuse         but a server might have instances that need different collations
09:53 alex_a          cait: i will help you to set it up in Marseille if you want
09:53 josef_moravec   but the you are right, thet unicode_ci is not always best for same langauges (Czech too)
09:53 cait            yeah, but i'd like it better if it did :)
09:52 alex_a          cait: now you are sure your elasticsearch doesn't work
09:52 josef_moravec   but could be maybe fine to set the default charset and collation on database level...
09:52 cait            i'd like to learn more about the elastic serach implementatin - maybein marseille?
09:51 cait            alex_a: hm switching on elastic - search not working
09:51 josef_moravec   and that is the reason it has to be always defined in kohastructure.sql, to be sure it is right
09:51 paxed           magnuse: yup
09:51 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11936 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Consistent log message for item insert
09:51 magnuse         ooh, look at the easy signoff on bug 11936
09:51 josef_moravec   yes it definitely override it
09:51 magnuse         paxed: this is a problem in norway and sweden too
09:50 paxed           josef_moravec: kohastructure.sql explicitly says COLLATE=utf8mb4_unicode_ci, so doesn't that override it?
09:50 cait            not sure my elastic search is working right onw
09:49 alex_a          cait: you can reproduce what i'm talking about in BZ 19582?
09:49 josef_moravec   paxed, cait: now it is based on settings of mysql server in your system (my.cnf) which is utf8_unicode_ci on most servers I think
09:48 cait            alex_a++
09:47 paxed           the collate can be changed afterwards, but still, it's annoying
09:46 cait            maybe file a bug for that? it seems a good suggestion!
09:46 wahanui         interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:46 cait            interesting
09:44 paxed           usually seen when you go catalogue a new record and have frameworks with 'ä' or 'ö', or if you have patrons with surnames starting with those letters
09:43 paxed           cait: the default database collate rule, utf8_unicode_ci, works for most languages, but for eg. finnish, it sorts the alphabet wrong
09:43 cait            paxed: what do you mean?
09:42 cait            osmeone willing to do a patch? :)
09:42 paxed           i wish we could change the default collate too during install.
09:42 cait            i think we really should replace that icon
09:41 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18336 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add support for Unicode supplementary characters
09:41 tuxayo          ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
09:41 tuxayo          Upgrade to 17.12.00.016 done (Bug 18336 - Convert DB tables to utf8mb4 💩)
09:16 cait            :)
09:15 josef_moravec   hi cait
09:15 magnuse         kia ora cait!
09:11 * cait          waves
08:54 marcelr         yes
08:54 magnuse         ok wahanui
08:53 wahanui         handbrake is a software application that can convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into a MPEG-4 video file in .mp4, .avi, .ogm, or .mkv containers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake
08:53 magnuse         handbrake?
08:48 marcelr         handrem..
08:48 magnuse         ah, ok
08:48 eythian         http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/178817/auto-te-water-in-keizersgracht- at5 is speculating
08:48 eythian         I think it came from the side I was on
08:48 marcelr         no
08:47 eythian         though, I don't think the car drove off it
08:47 eythian         it's a woonboot yeah
08:47 marcelr         kind of woonboot (houseboat?)
08:47 magnuse         marcelr: what is the thing the car drove off? a house built into the canal? or some weird houseboat?
08:32 tuxayo          hi marcelr
08:30 wahanui         well, gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
08:30 marcelr         and gaetan_B
08:30 marcelr         hi tuxayo
08:29 marcelr         wonder if they got a parking fine?
08:29 eythian         marcelr: perhaps they're experimenting with more under-canal parking. Only, this experiment failed.
08:29 tuxayo          *hi
08:29 tuxayo          ho #koha o/
08:26 gaetan_B        hello
07:59 marcelr         eythian: something went wrong there
07:52 eythian         https://i.redd.it/ykfh5p0syph01.jpg <-- I took this photo on the way into work this morning
07:51 wahanui         privet, alex_a
07:51 alex_a          bonjour
07:43 reiveune        salut magnuse
07:43 wahanui         kamelåså
07:43 LibraryClaire   hi magnuse
07:43 magnuse         hiya josef_moravec LibraryClaire reiveune
07:42 LibraryClaire   hi josef_moravec
07:42 reiveune        \o_
07:42 josef_moravec   hi marcelr magnuse LibraryClaire reiveune
07:38 wahanui         hello, reiveune
07:38 reiveune        hello
07:36 * LibraryClaire waves
07:35 magnuse         o/
07:35 marcelr         hi #koha
07:32 reiveune        hello
06:52 drojf           hi #koha
06:05 fridolin        in exchange of my eternel consideration and admiration ;)
06:05 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20131 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Inventory optional filters always shows "For loan" for value 0
06:05 fridolin        can somebody test this trivial Bug 20131
03:04 wizzyrea        the moral of the story is: don't leave any big viles in your kohadevbox directory, cuz they get rsynced to the devbox when it's provisioned, potentially not leaving space for your real git clone.
03:03 wizzyrea        never mind we figured it out
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19978 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Fix ITEMTYPECAT feature for grouping item types for search
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18975 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Wrong CSRF token when emailing cart contents
02:13 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19978: Fix ITEMTYPECAT behaviour
02:13 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18975: Retrieve up-to-date CGISESSID when just logged in
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20227 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , admin/smart-rules.pl should pass categorycode instead of branchcode
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19530 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item
02:13 jenkins         * m.de.rooy: Bug 20227: Check for categorycode in default_borrower_circ_rules
02:13 jenkins         * kyle: Bug 19530: Don't update the date arrived for closed transfers
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 major, P2, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , waiting and in transit items cannot be reserved
02:13 jenkins         * mtompset: Bug 19530: Added commentary for last test when prove -v
02:13 jenkins         * kyle: Bug 19530: Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19671 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation wizard / issues_stats.pl does not populate itemtype descriptions correctly
02:13 jenkins         * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Rename hasItemswaitingOrInTransit to
02:13 jenkins         * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Use ReservableItems in all scripts
02:13 jenkins         * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Consistency in IsAvailableForItemLevelRequest
02:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20135 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Staff client language choose pop-up can appear off-screen
02:13 jenkins         * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: [OPAC] Allow holds on waiting/transit items
02:13 jenkins         * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19671: Map itemtypes to hash for correct display in issues_stats.pl
02:13 jenkins         * oleonard: Bug 20135: Prevent staff client language choose pop-up from appearing
02:13 jenkins         Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #28: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/28/