Time Nick Message 07:24 reiveune hello 07:53 alex_a bonjour 07:53 wahanui que tal, alex_a 08:33 passerBy hola 08:34 passerBy any spanish speakers her 08:34 passerBy ? 08:36 cait good morning #koha 08:39 passerBy hola 08:39 passerBy no spanish speakers here? i read it on reddit 08:39 josef_moravec hi cait 08:42 passerBy vale, adios 08:54 cait hi josef_moravec :) 08:55 cait good morning ashimema :) 09:01 eythian hi 09:02 josef_moravec hi eythian 09:24 ashimema_ Morning #koha 09:27 josef_moravec hi ashimema_ 09:29 LibraryClaire hi #koha 10:03 eythian say "hi, $_" foreach qw( ashimema_ josef_moravec LibraryClaire cait ); 10:04 josef_moravec eythian: ;) 10:06 LibraryClaire o/ 10:08 cait hi eythian :) 11:19 paxed Joubu: re. docs/history.txt, i think developer is spelled like that, not developper? 11:36 cait paxed: thx for the translation bugfixes 11:39 paxed cait: relearning koha, so starting with tiny fixes 11:39 magnuse paxed++ 12:16 oleonard Hi all 12:50 * cait waves 12:51 oleonard Hi cait 12:51 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:51 wahanui hi dear loon 12:51 oleonard Hi LibraryClaire 13:40 oleonard What if we take out some columns in the table of saved reports and put the info in a modal? 13:40 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15180107152426 13:42 LibraryClaire I like the modal - would leave notes column in the table though? 13:43 oleonard yeah I think we'd have to have a international election on which columns to keep. The vote would be: all of them :| 13:44 LibraryClaire XD 13:44 eythian make it configurable 13:45 LibraryClaire syspref or option to show/hide columns 13:45 eythian the latter, i think. It'd probably best be a per user thing. 13:45 oleonard I'll bet it could be made to work dynamically with the show/hide columns thing 13:45 * eythian distracts from his own tricky programming challenges right now. 13:46 LibraryClaire I prefer show/hide columns 13:46 LibraryClaire and I like the idea of hiding info I don't need 14:29 Joubu paxed: thanks, I will fix the typo 14:29 cait oleonard: what is type? 14:29 wahanui type is, like, used for some things, like how to convert it when saving, and things like that 14:30 oleonard I'm not sure cait. Saved guided report vs. saved SQL report? 14:32 cait is there a difference visible once they are saved? 14:32 cait we don't use guided reports, so possibly i never noticed 14:38 oleonard I've got type 1 and type (empty). The schema shows the comment "always 1 for tabular" 14:39 cait ah 14:40 cait i think that might date back to the time where we offered more types - but only tabular was ever implemented 14:40 cait probably i woud not display it 14:55 oleonard I think I'll start a Koha Academy that forcibly conscripts participants. 14:56 Joubu yes please, every two days 14:59 Mfuerst Hey BW folks - is the server for bwsdev.bywatersolutions.com having issues again? Getting a 403. 16:09 reiveune bye 16:12 tuxayo_afk Hi, is there someone from ByWater? 16:13 oleonard bag, barton, khall? 16:18 oleonard I guess not tuxayo_afk 16:22 barton I'm here! 16:22 barton ... mostly. 16:31 bag @later tell Mfuerst is this the site you are looking for? http://devs.bywatersolutions.com/ 16:31 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded. 16:39 cait josef_moravec++ and alex_a++ 16:54 tuxayo thanks oleonard :) 16:56 tuxayo barton: hi, about your sandboxes, when testing a Bug that doesn't compile. It also breaks the config page of the sandbox. Which makes it unusable http://staff.sandbox2.sandbox.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl 16:59 barton tuxayo: I'll have khall take a peek. I think that larryb, is also looking at some apache issues on that box. 17:14 Joubu @later tell marcelr Hi Marcel, can you take a look at bug 19530#c10? 17:14 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 17:14 tuxayo barton: thanks :) 17:28 tuxayo Is there a guideline somewhere for syspref and variable names? Did I miss a place where to search? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 17:30 Joubu camelCase, complete words, readable, meaningful 17:34 saa how to upgrade koha 16.11 with new version of koha and with mariadb can one straight upgrade it without disturbing or it is necessary to backup database and then import 17:34 tuxayo Joubu: for the syspref, should it be upper camel case ? (initial upper case letter) Other than that, same a variables? 17:34 tuxayo *as 17:36 Joubu yep CamelCase, sorry :) 17:51 tuxayo Joubu: In https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#.pref_files 17:51 tuxayo does «A name, which has the same syntax as a variable » refers to the naming conventions? 17:55 Joubu I do not know what it means 17:57 tuxayo Joubu: nor do I. The use of "syntax" is distrubing 18:16 tuxayo see you tomorrow! 18:36 cait tuxayo_afk: i tihnk variable here just refers to the database column - the pref: name should match what is in the db - also the same spelling/capitalization 18:41 Joubu cait: should be "the same name of the variable" then? 18:48 cait possibly 18:49 cait that's what I think it means - but it's not very exactly written 18:51 cait general irc meeting in an hour? 18:53 tcohen next meeting? 18:53 wahanui i think next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 18:53 tcohen damn 18:55 * oleonard has already registered his apologies 18:55 * tcohen just cursed 19:04 cait not sure, was there a reminder? 19:04 oleonard I don't think so. It was on my calendar. 19:04 oleonard Joubu++ # useful calendar 19:04 cait :) 19:07 cait should we try and send a late reminder? 19:07 cait oleonard: maybe still take a look at my button proble? *looks at you hopefully* 19:08 cait @seen kidclamp 19:08 huginn` cait: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 5 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <kidclamp> drive by ping! 19:08 oleonard cait: I did, but I didn't come up with any brilliant ideas. 19:09 oleonard Do we really need to have all that information in the button? 19:09 cait in my opinon 'file' would do 19:09 cait if all the exports work the same, it seems like repeated information 19:11 cait i think the problem was that CSV (comma...) doesn't fit for non-comma separated 19:14 cait reminder sent 19:14 cait good morning kathryn :) 19:15 kathryn hi cait, I hope you enjoyed india :) 19:15 cait it was great, thank you :) 19:15 cait kathryn: did our christmas card arrive? 19:16 oleonard cait: The issue is that "CSV" might be misleading because it could use some other delimiter? 19:16 cait yes 19:17 kathryn cait: this will sound terrible but I don't *think* it did 19:17 cait as far as I understood 19:17 cait kathryn: :( we sent it right before christmas, same address as always 19:17 cait wonder what happened 19:19 oleonard cait: In my opinion "CSV" is commonly understood to refer to a file which may be delimited by commas or something else 19:19 kathryn cai: hmmn, if it shows up I will apologise profusely! Thanks for sending it :D When looking for it just now, I found a collections of cards from you 19:20 cait oleonard: cool 19:20 cait could you note that? 19:20 cait we then could decide to just push the first patch 19:20 cait and leave the buttons as is 19:20 oleonard On the bug? 19:20 cait kathryn: don't worry, we will keep sending them every year - even if it doesn't show pu 19:21 cait i will check if we have a digital version tomorrow 19:25 cait oleonard: yes plz! 19:25 cait wb josef_moravec :) 19:27 oleonard Bye all 19:29 kathryn hi and bye oleanard :) 19:29 kathryn too late, wrong spelling! 19:29 cait he always does that quick leaving thing - I have given up :) 20:01 mkuhn Hi Koha 20:01 cait hi all 20:01 cait get ready :) 20:02 cait #startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 February 2018 20:02 huginn` Meeting started Wed Feb 7 20:02:40 2018 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:02 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_february_2018' 20:02 cait #topic Introductions 20:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 20:02 cait Please introduce yourself following wahanui's example 20:03 mkuhn #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland 20:03 clintD #info clint deckard, Anact, NZ 20:03 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_7_February_2018 Today's agenda 20:03 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 20:03 josef_moravec1 #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic 20:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:03 cait giving it another minute 20:04 m23_KohaCZ_ $info Koha Czech community 20:04 cait #info :) 20:05 cait hm should have probably escaped that somehow 20:05 thd # info, Thomas Dukleth, New York City via Denver 20:05 cait m23_KohaCZ_: do you want to correct before I switch topics? 20:06 m23_KohaCZ_ #info Michal Denar, KohaCZ 20:06 cait #topic Announcements 20:06 cait anyone? :) 20:06 thd # info, Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City now Denver 20:07 cait Joubu: ? 20:07 Joubu nothing from me 20:07 cait ok, no announcements, moving on 20:07 cait #info no announcements were made 20:08 cait #topic Update on releases 20:08 cait Rmaints? 20:08 wahanui Rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) 20:08 * cait learned that trick from Joubu 20:08 Joubu About 18.05: I have a lot of things to tell you :) I am currently writing the next what's on in koha-devel emails I am going to publish tomorrow hopefully 20:08 Joubu so just read it when it will be published :) 20:09 Joubu (even if it is a bit long) 20:09 cait will do :) 20:10 cait #info Please find all info about 18.05 in the next What's on email from Joubu to be released soon 20:10 cait moving on again? 20:10 cait this is going to be a quick on 20:10 cait e 20:10 cait if somoene something they want to discuss - please pm or state here 20:11 cait sorry, my keyboard is giving me a bit of trouble tonight, a bit slower than usual 20:11 cait #topic QA Team 20:11 cait QA team? 20:11 wahanui QA team is hunting all the bugs! 20:11 cait QA? 20:11 wahanui hmmm... QA is Quality Assurance? 20:11 cait hm... we need to fix that :) 20:11 cait the queue was high, we got it down some, it got up back high (almost 140) - we got it down some again (currently around 90) 20:12 cait i hope we can push it down some more this time around 20:12 * Joubu flaps QA team with RJ45 cables 20:12 Joubu qa_team? 20:12 wahanui qa_team is, like, alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec 20:12 cait we are also working to get the long sitting bugs out of the queue 20:12 wahanui okay, cait. 20:13 cait so please have some more patience 20:13 cait i have added a bug to the agenda 20:13 cait bug 19928 20:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19928 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Signed Off , Acquisitions' CSV exports should honor syspref "delimiter" 20:13 cait i was looking for opinions on the changed buttons 20:14 cait oleonard suggested earlier that CSV can be interpreted not strictly as only comma separated in english but generally means some kind of ... separated values in everyday's use 20:14 cait so I will suggest to stick with the current labelling for shorter descriptions 20:14 cait last but not least... if you want to join QA, let me know ;) 20:14 cait Joubu: ? 20:15 Joubu yes? 20:15 cait or anyone else, something want to add as a topic or to this one before we move to setting the date? 20:15 thd However, having two different competing names for the same function could be a source of confusion. 20:17 cait why competing? 20:18 thd A different expectation for some people seeing system preferences screens and acquisition screens. 20:18 cait i am sorry, but I don't understand 20:19 cait maybe epxlain to me after the meeting? 20:19 thd Sorry, maybe I am reading something extra into the problem the bug report was supposed to raise. 20:19 thd Comment withdrawn. 20:20 cait #topic Set date of next meeting 20:20 cait so wednesday in march 20:20 cait march 7 20:20 Joubu yep 20:20 cait 14 utc? 20:21 cait I will read the quiet as agreement :) 20:21 cait #info Next meeting: 7 March 2018, 14 UTC 20:21 cait thx all! 20:21 cait #endmeeting 20:21 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Feb 7 20:21:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:21 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_7_february_2018.2018-02-07-20.02.html 20:21 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_7_february_2018.2018-02-07-20.02.txt 20:21 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_7_february_2018.2018-02-07-20.02.log.html 20:22 clintD Thank you. Best wishes to all 20:23 josef_moravec1 cait++ 20:23 mkuhn Have a nice evening (if you're living in around Central Europe like me) 20:23 cait quick meeting - some more time for bugs :) 20:23 Joubu we have lost the Documentation meetings 20:23 cait true 20:23 cait we should get in touch with the documentation team 20:24 thd Joubu, Do you mean that they had not set a new date for meeting or do you mean some other form of lost? 20:27 cait we missed one meeting and no new date was set since 20:28 thd Ah, the lost your skipping stone sense of lost :) 20:30 thd [skipping stone is a weather rounded stone with flat sides which can 'skip' across a body of water if thrown properly.] 20:31 thd s/skip/bounce/ 20:32 cait :) 20:36 Altiplano Hi to all! 20:37 cait hello 20:37 wahanui hi, cait