Time Nick Message 00:06 mtompset gmcharlt: I think wunder is horribly US-ian-centric. 00:09 wizzyrea it's worse than it used to be, it seems 00:12 pianohacker yo 00:47 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt wizzyrea pianohacker :) 00:47 mtompset @seen Joubu 00:47 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 23 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Joubu> kohagit32?? 00:47 mtompset I fear to look up what that conversation was about. 01:00 TGoat good night everyone! 01:01 wizzyrea later 01:39 mtompset Have a good night. 01:40 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period). 01:40 mtompset Lack of caffeine reverted to bad exit. :) 07:24 cait still stuck trying to figure out 20001 - fixed a template bug, but now stuck on the next error 07:24 cait bug 20001 07:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20001 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, REOPENED , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC is not possible 07:38 reiveune hello 07:46 magnuse ~~~ 07:46 alex_a bonjour 07:46 wahanui que tal, alex_a 08:06 marcelr hi #koha 08:16 gaetan_B hello 08:16 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 08:29 paxed any way to recover my old bugzilla user? the email i used isn't available anymore 08:35 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 08:38 andreashm hi tuxayo 08:55 * andreashm is curious if anyone in the qa team is looking at bug 19469? =) 08:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype 08:56 cait not sure someone started yet, but we will get to it 08:57 * andreashm wishes he could to thmubs up on irc 08:57 andreashm thumbs up. 08:58 fridolin hi 09:00 cait hi fridolin 09:00 fridolin cait: bonjour 09:00 wahanui bidet, fridolin 09:06 BLUE_ICE hello 09:07 andreashm hi 09:07 wahanui privet, andreashm 09:07 BLUE_ICE how to run on the web for client? 09:08 BLUE_ICE url:8080 is running but the client page is not running 09:08 cait you mean the opac? 09:08 BLUE_ICE yes cait 09:08 cait the frontend for the users of the library 09:08 BLUE_ICE yes please help 09:09 BLUE_ICE i gues i miss to install? 09:10 BLUE_ICE im running Koha version: 3.18.00.000 09:10 cait are you just starting to use Koha? 09:10 cait so is this a fresh installation? 09:11 cait the OPAC is always installed, more likely to be an Apache issue - but 3.18 is super old, you should not use that 09:11 BLUE_ICE actually it was running 1 year i leave it for a year 09:11 cait 3.20, 3.22, 16.05, 16.11, 17.05, 17.11 released since 09:12 BLUE_ICE so need to install a new one? 09:12 BLUE_ICE how can i backup my files ? sorry for this newbie on opac :) 09:13 BLUE_ICE or what about upgrading? 09:13 BLUE_ICE is the files losT? 09:15 cait IosT? 09:17 BLUE_ICE lost i mean 09:21 BLUE_ICE just asking how to backup the database and patch it on the new installations possible? 09:22 cait update will depend on how you installed, but of course it will be possible 09:23 cait dumping your mysql database is enough if you didn't change files locally 09:23 cait it has your data and all of the configuration 09:23 cait updated should always be tested first - having a test installation to do that with is always good 09:25 magnuse acquisitions.pref#CurrencyFormat# 360'000.00 (CH) - what does the CH mean? 09:25 cait if you aren't using package installations yet, you might want to do that :) 09:25 cait magnuse: swiss 09:28 magnuse cait: thanks 09:37 BLUE_ICE i will be back tomorrow have no time :) need your help when i get back here :) 09:37 BLUE_ICE thanks cait 09:55 cait hi paul_p 09:55 paul_p hi cait. Seen your email about the hackfest. Great ! 09:55 paul_p (will send you the link to gdoc later) 09:56 cait thx! 09:56 cait paul_p: going to advertise hea in my presentation in India 09:59 paul_p cait ++++++ 09:59 paul_p cait (I didn't knew you're going to India. Where ? which conf ? ) 09:59 cait Library Technology Conclave - next week 10:01 paul_p where is it in India ? 10:01 cait Goa 10:05 clrh Hi, who is Mike 'black 23) on bz ? 10:06 cait i think it's someone from czech - did you check his email ? 10:06 clrh black23 on gmail 10:06 clrh I am discovering your convesration about gdpr 10:06 clrh and wiki page 10:06 wahanui it has been said that wiki page is not completely up to date, but it should give you an idea of the steps involved 10:06 clrh and bz 18081 10:12 magnuse gdpr? 10:12 magnuse gdpr is bug 18081 and https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Improve_data_protection_and_patron_privacy 10:12 magnuse gdpr? 10:12 wahanui i heard gdpr was bug 18081 and https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Improve_data_protection_and_patron_privacy 10:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18081 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , [omnibus] GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) 10:12 cait magnuse: new european laws for data privacy etc 10:12 magnuse i know, just training wahanui :-) 11:13 fridolin yop, koha-perldeps unstable is still in 17.06, should be in 17.12 no ? 11:32 alex_a @seen tcohen 11:32 huginn alex_a: I have not seen tcohen. 11:34 tuxayo Hi, I'm trying the KohaDevBox but after getting into the box. What one must to do have a usable instance? What I did: 11:34 tuxayo - Install missing deps (libsearch-elasticsearch-perl) 11:35 tuxayo - reset_all 11:35 tuxayo logs: 11:35 tuxayo DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.date_renewed' in 'field list' 11:37 cait yu should not need to install somehting i think 11:37 cait it should just work 11:37 cait localhost:8080 an dlocalhost:8081 11:38 cait and for elasticsearch check the github page - there is a param i think, but haven't quite mastered that yet 11:38 tuxayo cait: the install of a dep was necessary to avoid a compile error 11:38 cait hm 11:38 cait not sure there 11:38 wahanui i guess not sure there is a better way to do it 11:38 tuxayo the goal is not even to use ES, just to run the tests and QA tools 11:39 cait yep 11:39 cait so what happens when you go to localhost:8080? 11:39 cait from your host 11:40 tuxayo cait: oh the OPAC work 11:40 cait :) 11:40 tuxayo but "Internal Server Error" in staff 11:40 cait try restart_all 11:40 cait in vagrant ssh 11:40 tuxayo cait: already done 11:40 cait no change? 11:41 tuxayo a search in the opac gives «Internal Server Error» 11:41 cait take a look at the plack log - koha-plack-err 11:41 tuxayo cait: that's were «DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.date_renewed'» comes from 11:41 cait hm 11:41 cait are you on the master branch? 11:41 tuxayo Has anyone done a fresh DevBox recently? 11:43 cait it sounds liek there is some mismatch with your schema 11:43 cait i'd check you are on master and maybe try a reset_all 11:43 cait bbl 11:43 tuxayo Yep, I'm on master. I'll do another reset_all 11:45 tuxayo cait: now it works. I don't get why? 11:46 tuxayo Maybe we had to do a `reset_all` after a `dbic`. That's what we tried before. 11:49 tuxayo cait: should I just have needed a `reset_all` after the first ssh login? 11:59 tcohen dbic runs against a separate db 12:30 cait reset all gives you a clean db 12:30 cait maybe something from testing was odd? 12:42 LibraryClaire oleonard angry? 12:42 oleonard No I'm good :) 12:43 LibraryClaire :D 13:16 tuxayo I confirm that one has to install libsearch-elasticsearch-perl on a fresh DevBox 13:19 tuxayo Is there a way to have a working DevBox with just commands? (not using the web installer). 13:32 cait tuxayo: don't know how but i think so - you could load a sample db 13:32 cait into the empty db 13:34 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-01-18_13:34:43.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/VYwMFlwbaTnxQxrZSpKqEnCF> 13:35 tcohen @later tell matts I updated the RFC, but didn't fill all the holes 13:35 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:35 tcohen https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Acquisitions_funds_endpoint_RFC 13:36 oleonard git fetch... "fatal: Could not read from remote repository." 13:37 oleonard anyone else having that problem today? 13:37 tuxayo All tests successful. 13:37 tuxayo :D 13:41 tcohen next meetings? 13:41 wahanui next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 13:49 oleonard Perhaps I've done something to offend git and git is shunning me? 13:51 Joubu oleonard: I get fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer 13:51 Joubu so it's not you :) 13:52 tuxayo DevBox users: can someone try `cd /home/vagrant/qa-test-tools; prove -v t/Perl.t` to check if their QA Tools work? 13:52 tuxayo I have two error in my DevBox but don't know if that's to be expected. 13:52 magnuse oleonard: "Never attribute to chance that which is adequately explained by malice"? 13:52 tuxayo magnuse: Don't we usually say the contrary? :-P 13:52 magnuse hehe, probably 13:53 Joubu tuxayo: fail for me as well 13:53 oleonard No, I think magnuse has captured my outlook perfectly. 13:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:59 tuxayo Joubu: So we have 2 tests (of the QA Tools test suite) that fail in my non-DevBox install and my DevBox install and your DevBox install. Then it's worth a bug report for the QA tools right? 14:00 Joubu tuxayo: yes, there is the "Project Infrastructure" project on bugzilla 14:00 tuxayo Joubu: thanks :) 14:02 Joubu tuxayo: sounds like the verbose flag does not work correctly 14:02 Joubu it is just an output issue I guess 14:03 Joubu try `qa -c 1 -v 1` and `qa -c 1 -v 2` 14:03 Joubu the output is the same, -v 1 should only display the filename, not the details 14:07 tuxayo Joubu: I ran the suite with `prove -v t/Perl.t` so I don't know where to make these changes. 14:09 tuxayo Joubu: understood 14:10 tuxayo You meant to try these commands on a koha repo to see that the output is the same. 14:10 Joubu yes 14:11 Joubu I will take care of that, it should be easy to fix for me. Unless you want to :) 14:12 tuxayo Here is the report bug 20029 14:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20029 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Verbosity issue that makes the QA tools test suite report 2 failures 14:18 tuxayo Joubu: It's the first time I use this tool, so I don't feel it would be efficient to dive in it's code now ^^" 14:19 tuxayo Joubu: Maybe for the DevBox if there are easy fixes to make it work with Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) 14:19 tuxayo (I haven't proved yet) 14:21 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-01-18_14:21:40.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/UQdGoxNsKpXBPtyYctbCCvHi> 14:29 Joubu tuxayo: git bz config 14:57 tuxayo Joubu: Successfully applying a patch is enough? 14:58 Joubu yes 14:58 tuxayo Joubu: thanks, now I can enjoy the DevBox :D 15:15 tuxayo QA Test Tools: How does one tests HEAD? I ran `qa -v 1 -c 1` and it tested HEAD~1 15:15 Joubu c is the number of commit 15:15 Joubu so -c 1 will test HEAD 15:16 Joubu it checkouts HEAD~1, run the tests, checkouts HEAD, run the tests, and compare the result ouput 15:16 Joubu output 15:16 tcohen tuxayo: it compares HEAD with 1 less 15:18 tuxayo Thanks, I missunderstood the message «testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 94cd276 'Bug 19918: Close span tag in opac-reg')» 15:18 tuxayo That indeed means that it's testing my commit which is HEAD 15:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19918 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , span tag not closed in opac-registration-confirmation.tt 16:12 clrh 'soir 16:35 tuxayo mtompset++ thanks for the signoff of bug 19928 :) 16:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19928 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Signed Off , Acquisitions' CSV exports should honor syspref "delimiter" 16:36 mtompset tuxayo: No problem. I think the comment #21 is just a complaint about the test plan not being explicit enough for those unfamiliar with translation. 16:36 mtompset When you write test plans, assume the person knows nothing except how to read and follow instructions. 16:37 mtompset try not to leave "secret" knowledge implicit. 16:37 mtompset Yes, I'm bad: "run koha qa test tools" 16:38 mtompset Because to be honest, I had difficulty with the translation portion of the testing. 16:38 mtompset Because I don't know what fuzzy, etc. is. 16:38 mtompset This is why I generally avoid translation related bugs. 16:39 mtompset People don't write test plans so that I learn what the secret knowledge is. 16:39 mtompset Which is why I re-wrote the test plan for another bug I just signed off on, because the person couldn't figure out how to trigger the secondary case. 16:40 reiveune bye 16:41 mtompset Speaking of secret knowledge... 16:41 mtompset @seen cait 16:41 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 8 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <cait> into the empty db 16:41 mtompset Actually, your name is on the list of people commenting, tuxayo 16:41 mtompset How do I trigger ILL? 16:42 tuxayo mtompset: I though `perl translate update YOUR_LANG` and `perl translate install YOUR_LANG` was explicit enough. 16:42 mtompset I enabled the ILL module system preference. 16:42 tuxayo mtompset: about bug 20001? 16:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20001 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC is not possible 16:42 mtompset Yep. 16:42 mtompset Because it eyeballs perfectly. 16:42 mtompset It passed qa test tools. 16:43 mtompset I just want to trigger the change. 16:44 tuxayo mtompset: actually I tried to understand just to follow this bug that seemed important. And found the error about pointing to the wrong comment. But I don't understand the issue as I don't know how ILL works. 16:44 tuxayo See you tomorrow all! 17:00 mtompset Does anyone know about the interlibrary_loan section of the koha-conf.xml file? 17:15 Joubu mtompset: see bug 7317 17:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC 17:15 mtompset I'm almost there... 17:15 mtompset My problem is the stupid ILLIBS code doesn't seem to be changed. 17:16 mtompset I really hate caching... 17:17 Joubu mtompset: just pick the ill section of koha-conf.xml from the one in the repo 17:17 Joubu lunch time 17:17 mtompset restart all fixed my problem. 17:45 cait Joubu++ mtompset++ 17:45 cait :) 17:46 mtompset Thanks, cait. 17:55 mtompset YAY! For the next few minutes, at least, I'm #1 :) 17:56 mtompset http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ sign offs for January :) 18:02 cait heh 18:02 cait have to prepare presentations, so pretty out of it right now :( will be back 19:17 barton happy birthday oleonard! 19:17 oleonard Thanks barton :) 19:17 oleonard I caught up with you again. Thanks for not lording it over me for the past couple of months. 19:18 * barton admits that he had to go on to facebook and make sure that it wasn't tomorrow. 19:18 oleonard I accept lavish gifts on both days. 19:19 * barton sends oleonard a gift certificate for git.koha-community.org 19:23 * oleonard gets matching git.koha-community.org t-shirt and ball cap 19:29 mtompset It's your birthday, oleonard? Happy Birthday! 19:29 oleonard Thanks mtompset! 19:43 barton oleonard: tomorrow it's a bushel of peach fuzz, and rabbit tracks on toast. 19:43 oleonard thumbs_up.png 19:59 oleonard Bye all 20:03 mtompset @seem khall 20:03 huginn mtompset: I've exhausted my database of quotes 20:04 mtompset @seen khall 20:04 huginn mtompset: I have not seen khall. 20:04 mtompset @seen khall_away 20:04 huginn mtompset: I have not seen khall_away. 20:04 mtompset Well, that is just lovely. 20:04 mtompset @later tell khall bug 18725 rebase. :) 20:04 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 20:33 blou holà Koha! 20:33 blou Any TT expert in the house today? :) 20:34 blou I'll throw my question to the wind anyway: how do we test for "if defined" in .tt ? 20:38 Joubu [% IF var.defined %] 20:39 Joubu but... smells wrong :) 20:41 blou hahaha 20:42 blou hey, that works!!! smells funny, but it's much cleaner than all the alternatives I've seen to far 20:43 blou [% ActionsLoo.from_field %][% IF ( ActionsLoo.from_subfield.defined ) %]$[% ActionsLoo.from_subfield %][% END %] 20:43 blou without your suggestion, I could not get the "$0" to display 20:48 blou thanks a lot for the help! 23:51 bag bug 20039 23:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20039 is not accessible. 23:52 bag @seen rangi 23:52 huginn bag: I have not seen rangi. 23:52 mtompset That's an interesting bug, bag 23:52 bag Joubu? you about?