Time  Nick          Message
20:00 tuxayo        koha qa test tools: maybe it's time for me to learn what these are ^^"
20:00 tuxayo        mtompset: «I would have expected the missing hypens to matter.» → Me too
19:59 oleonard      Happy weekend #koha
19:26 barton        Margaret: https://zoom.us/j/577136493
19:23 khall         oleonard: fixed!
19:21 khall         oleonard: I was wrong. I'll implement that!
19:20 oleonard      Thanks khall
19:19 khall         oleonard: I'll poke around
19:17 ebegin        I don't know if you notice, but since few months, most inLibro staff dedicate there Friday afternoon working on community tasks :)
19:15 oleonard      Hm, then something's not working. :(
19:14 khall         my code calls Koha::Patron::delete which copies the patron to the deletedborrowers table before deleting it
19:14 khall         oleonard: it should already do that!
19:12 khall         oleonard: yeah, it's really only for manual patron restoration. And a history of a sort
19:12 oleonard      I think so. (Not that anything ever returns from deletedborrowers?)
19:11 khall         oleonard: I hadn't thought of that, seems like a reasonable thing to do
19:09 mtompset      tuxayo: Did you run the koha qa test tools on this?
19:08 oleonard      I'm testing patron merges, and everything looks good so far. I'm wondering if the "old" patron record should be added to deletedborrowers?
19:07 khall         oleonard: yep!
19:07 oleonard      khall around?
19:07 mtompset      Seems that they did not.
19:06 mtompset      Strange... I would have expected the missing hypens to matter.
18:59 tuxayo        Any language will do since the test must edit the .po after updating them.
18:58 tuxayo        mtompset: yes, to confirm that the translatability of some parts of the CSV still works.
18:54 mtompset      Right...
18:54 mtompset      OH.. to confirm the template generation for that language.
18:50 mtompset      tuxayo: Okay... I see that the patch works correctly against baskets, basketgroups, and lateorders... why do you have the fr-FR language stuff as part of your test plan?
18:36 ebegin        774 - Constituent Unit Entry
18:36 ebegin        773 - Host Item Entry
18:34 ebegin        concerning bouzid question earlier, we noted the host bib contains its children in the 773 field.  From my understanding of the MARC21 standards, the child should have its host in 774 and each child should have its host in 773.  Am I missing something ?
18:31 mtompset      But it was very wet and raining.
18:30 mtompset      Our exceptionally warm was yesterday.
18:30 ebegin        mtompset: it's exceptionally warm today ;)
18:30 mtompset      Okay... just ran a reset_all tuxayo ... testing commencing. :)
18:29 mtompset      Not as cold as here, it would seem, ebegin
18:28 huginn        ebegin: Montreal, Quebec :: Rain :: 52F/11C | Friday: Periods of rain. High 51F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Friday Night: Some sleet or freezing rain possible early. Rain and snow this evening turning to all snow overnight. Low 12F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 100%. 8 to 12 inches of snow expected.
18:28 ebegin        @wunder montreal, canada
18:25 mtompset      It's freezing rain right now.
18:24 mtompset      It got the wrong Toronto. :(
18:24 huginn        mtompset: Orangeville, Ontario :: Snow :: 19F/-7C | Wind Chill: 4F/-15C | Friday: Snow likely. Some sleet or freezing rain possible. High 23F. Winds NNW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 100%. Snow accumulating 3 to 5 inches. Friday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 2F. Winds N at 15 to 25 mph.
18:24 mtompset      @wunder Orangeville
18:24 huginn        mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Orangeville,ON
18:24 mtompset      @wunder Orangeville,ON
18:23 huginn        mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: toronto, ontario
18:23 mtompset      @wunder toronto, ontario
18:23 huginn        mtompset: Toronto, Prince Edward Island :: Mostly Cloudy :: 54F/12C | Friday: Cloudy and windy. High 56F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Friday Night: Windy with evening showers evolving to a steady, soaking rain overnight. Areas of dense fog. Low 51F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
18:23 mtompset      @wunder toronto
18:23 huginn        mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: L7E5Y5
18:23 mtompset      @wunder L7E5Y5
18:23 huginn        mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: L7E 5Y5
18:23 mtompset      @wunder L7E 5Y5
18:23 huginn        mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: l7e5y5
18:23 mtompset      @wunder l7e5y5
18:16 huginn        bag: Palm Springs, CA :: Clear :: 67F/19C | Friday: Sunny. High 77F. Winds light and variable. Friday Night: Mostly clear. Low 59F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph.
18:16 bag           @wunder palm springs, ca
18:11 tuxayo        mtompset hi, thanks for you help! I hope I didn't break anything. This translatable CSV generation is tricky ><
18:11 tuxayo        cait: no problem, that's a good opportunity to learn about this :)
18:07 mtompset      I'm testing it in a bit... :)
18:07 mtompset      Greetings, tuxayo!
18:06 cait          bbl
18:06 cait          sorry, bit tired already
18:06 cait          hm the fields i gave you are for marc21... didn't think of unimarc
18:05 tuxayo        cait: I was suspecting (but fearing that it could be a wrong direction) that editing the framework would be necessary, thanks for confirming this :)
17:57 cait          and if the itemtype is set to mandatory in 952$y on your system, remove that in your framework configuration
17:57 cait          c
17:57 cait          and then add the itemtpye to 942$... i forgot
17:57 cait          you need to set tthe pref
17:54 tuxayo        Hi, pendingreserves.pl doesn't handle well syspref item-level_itypes="biblio record" being because it displays the of itype the item. I order to fix this, I need to reproduce the issue on my machine but can get "an item to not have an itype" Is that actually what I need to do?
17:35 huginn        mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Joubu> and on the patron card, in the "Library management" section
17:35 mtompset      @seen Joubu
16:45 reiveune      bye
16:28 huginn        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:28 mtompset      @later tell marcelr But // -1 vs longer uglier if... I like pretty code. :(
16:27 huginn        mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 45 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi josef_moravec and kidclamp
16:27 mtompset      @seen marcelr
16:12 clrh          bye all
16:05 cait          oleonard++ :)
15:55 oleonard      I do not know
15:54 cait          does rancor use the same technique?
15:53 oleonard      It's not ideal.
15:53 cait          one more koha riddle solved :)
15:52 cait          i will try that - thank you!
15:52 oleonard      By default in Firefox, for instance, it's Shift + Alt + (accesskey)
15:52 oleonard      https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/accessibility-features-firefox-make-firefox-and-we#w_html-access-keys
15:51 cait          is that another key combination you need to add/configure?
15:51 cait          can you explain?
15:51 oleonard      cait: They're supposed to work with the browser's accesskey function.
15:50 cait          that never works for me just pressing the key... am i missing something?
15:50 bouzid        tanks cait
15:50 cait          (Y) (N)
15:50 cait          we have some buttons in circ that indicate you can use them with keys
15:50 oleonard      yes
15:50 cait          oleonard: around?
15:49 cait          we can't use it in our environment because it doesn't work with UseControlnumber
15:49 cait          that's easyanaltics then, I don't know how that works
15:49 cait          in the item?
15:49 bouzid        I use Link a host item
15:48 cait          jajm++ marcelr++ josef_moravec++ :)
15:43 cait          EasyAnaltics is a bit non-standard, so not sure there, 773 is host item entry, I would only expect it in the child record
15:42 cait          with easyanalytics or with the 'add analytics' menu entry?
15:42 cait          how do you create the link?
15:38 bouzid        Hi all, I have question about analytics,  right now , the child id is stored in 773 of record mother and mother id is stored in 773 of record child. is it correct or I don't understand correctly?
14:34 oleonard      You're welcome tuxayo.
14:29 tuxayo        Thanks, I didn't know about this file.
14:29 tuxayo        oleonard_: «tuxayo: You should add yourself: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars»
14:28 cait          it's all there
14:28 cait          ok, i am just blind
14:28 cait          tried all 4 settings now
14:28 cait          Joubu: hm still not seeing it :(
14:27 cait          thx Joubu!
14:24 Joubu         and on the patron card, in the "Library management" section
14:24 Joubu         than, patron cat ="Check for previous checkouts: "
14:24 cait          i thkn that got a bit lost in the german translation
14:24 cait          aha!
14:23 Joubu         cait: pref="unless overridden, do"
14:21 Joubu         let me check
14:21 Joubu         yes you can :)
14:21 cait          yes = no change?
14:21 Joubu         yes
14:20 cait          but you can't seem to change it on the patron record?
14:20 cait          gotit
14:20 Joubu         it's defined at 3 levels: pref, patron category, and finally patron
14:20 cait          ah so it works like privavy
14:20 wahanui       well, patron category is in the works ... gimme a sec.
14:20 Joubu         patron category?
14:18 cait          can someone help?
14:18 cait          hm i have turnd on the feature, but i don't see it in the patron record
14:16 cait          now all that is left is checkprevcheckout
14:14 cait          so wanted to make sure i got it right :)
14:14 cait          i have to document the columns in borrowers for our data privacy documentation
14:13 cait          it's alright
14:13 Joubu         it was too "heavy" to update it every time they load a page
14:13 cait          thx :)
14:12 Joubu         yes
14:12 cait          Joubu: bororwers.lastseen gets only updated on login?
13:39 magnuse       winter took a break
13:35 huginn        magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 35F/2C | Friday: Cloudy with showers. High around 40F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Friday Night: A few clouds. Low near 30F. Winds E at 10 to 20 mph.
13:35 magnuse       @wunder bodo, norway
13:35 huginn        magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway
13:35 magnuse       @wunder bodø, norway
13:35 magnuse       nah
13:35 huginn        magnuse: Bootle, United Kingdom :: Overcast :: 43F/6C | Wind Chill: 37F/3C | Friday: Cloudy skies. High 42F. Winds SE at 10 to 20 mph. Friday Night: Overcast. Low near 40F. Winds SE at 15 to 25 mph.
13:35 magnuse       @wunder boo
13:12 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translating_the_Koha_Manual#Image_names
13:11 cait          or is it just the image tags and nothing else? then maybe we could filter
13:09 cait          i think knowing which image it#s referring to might be nice compared to substituting with %s
13:08 cait          Joubu: hm true, maybe a note on the wiki... at least?
13:07 eythian       It's the only way to be sure
13:07 oleonard      True. Burn it down.
13:06 eythian       non-standard units though :/
13:06 oleonard      So detailed!
13:06 huginn        oleonard: Athens, OH :: Overcast :: 56F/14C | Friday: Cloudy with periods of rain. Morning high of 56F with temps falling sharply to near freezing. SSW winds shifting to N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a half an inch. Friday Night: A wintry mix this evening will transition to mainly snow overnight. Low 17F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precip 100%. Snow and ice (1 more message)
13:06 oleonard      @wunder 45701
13:05 Joubu         gmcharlt++ :)
13:05 huginn        Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 84F/29C | Heat Index: 88F/31C | Friday: Scattered clouds with the possibility of an isolated thunderstorm developing this afternoon. High 89F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Friday Night: Mostly clear skies this evening. Scattered showers and thunderstorms developing overnight. Low 78F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
13:05 Joubu         @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina
13:04 Joubu         and hi #koha!
13:04 Joubu         translators translated what they should not have translated... :-/
13:04 Joubu         locales/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgstr "|圖片1174|"
13:04 Joubu         locales/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgid "|image1174|"
13:04 Joubu         and
13:03 Joubu         locales/es/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgstr "|imagen1174|"
13:03 Joubu         cait: locales/es/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgid "|image1174|"
13:00 cait          why are yo here? :)
13:00 cait          morning tcohen
12:38 tcohen        morning
12:30 magnuse       hiya oleonard
12:28 oleonard      Hello
12:15 magnuse       added some content to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Improve_data_protection_and_patron_privacy, not sure if the format is good
11:52 cait          updated the bug
11:51 cait          oh typoed
11:51 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13667 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Provide script to regularly clean deletedpatrons table
11:50 magnuse       bug 13667
11:50 cait          also pre 3.2
11:50 cait          odd.
11:50 cait          hm found another forgot to delete table... fundmapping
11:50 cait          gdpr or not
11:49 cait          it was never good news
11:49 cait          i filed a bug that we need a delete script for that ages ago i think
11:49 magnuse       the deletedborrowers table is not good news in gdpr context, i think
11:48 magnuse       getting close to bug number 20000!
11:44 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19963 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ethnicity and ethnicity tables and columns survived update
11:44 cait          bug 19963
11:40 cait          gah.
11:40 cait          it's because the database update didn't check for "" as empty
11:39 cait          11054 $DBversion = "3.21.00.033";
11:38 cait          shoudl have been removed with a pre 3.22 update
11:38 * cait        is strangely surprised to find the ethnotes, ethnicity things still in her old databases
11:19 magnuse       cait: ok
11:10 cait          but so far it's mostly updating paperwork for us afaikt
11:10 cait          I have a meeting this afternoon about it
11:07 magnuse       cait: is that high on your agenda?
11:07 * magnuse     has learned a little bit more about GDPR
11:07 magnuse       ~~~
10:49 cait          go to the record it belongs to, edit > attach item and scan the barcode
10:46 saa           how to undo this action
10:46 saa           wrongly an item is attached to other record
10:43 * cait        waves in all directions
10:42 kidclamp      er...good time of day
10:42 josef_moravec hi kidclamp
10:42 josef_moravec hi marcelr
10:42 kidclamp      morning
10:42 marcelr       hi josef_moravec and kidclamp
10:12 cait          hi josef_moravec :)
10:09 josef_moravec hi cait
09:38 * cait        waves
09:06 fridolin      hi
08:34 clrh          hello
08:12 matts         hellow
08:09 reiveune      hello
08:09 wahanui       niihau, gaetan_B
08:09 gaetan_B      hello
08:08 eythian       it's right so long as it doesn't say 0% I guess...
08:03 alex_a        has been raining continuously for 15 days here
08:03 alex_a        "Chance of rain 40%" lol
08:02 huginn        alex_a: Gueret, France :: Overcast :: 39F/4C | Wind Chill: 35F/2C | Friday: Showers early, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 42F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Scattered frost possible. Low 32F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
08:02 alex_a        @wunder Gueret
07:57 eythian       also its wind speed
07:57 eythian       its temperature units are broken though, hopefully someone fixes that.
07:57 eythian       hey, the bot is back!
07:57 huginn        eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Overcast :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 38F/3C | Friday: Cloudy this morning. A few showers developing during the afternoon. High 42F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Friday Night: Mostly cloudy. Low 37F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph.
07:57 eythian       @wunder amsterdam
07:40 alex_a        bonjour
07:32 cait          it's pretty grey outside, in other words
07:32 huginn        cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 38F/3C | Wind Chill: 34F/1C | Friday: Considerable cloudiness. High 41F. Winds light and variable. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Scattered frost possible. Low 32F. Winds light and variable.
07:32 cait          @wunder Konstanz
07:32 cait          have to run, bbl! :)
07:26 marcelr       hi cait
07:25 cait          good morning marcelr!
07:22 marcelr       hi #koha
01:39 huginn        barton|laptop: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tcohen> ?
01:39 barton|laptop @seen tcohen
01:35 huginn        barton|laptop: The operation succeeded.
01:35 barton|laptop @later tell barton test
01:03 wizzyrea      squeeeeee
01:03 huginn        wizzyrea: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Overcast :: 63F/17C | Friday: Cloudy and windy. High 67F. Winds ESE at 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Friday Night: Cloudy skies this evening will become partly cloudy after midnight. Low 61F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph.
01:03 wizzyrea      @wunder nzwn
00:40 oleonard      Yes.
00:40 huginn        oleonard: Athens, OH :: Rain :: 55F/13C | Thursday: Mainly cloudy and rainy. Lows overnight in the low 50s. Thursday Night: Periods of rain. Low 51F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
00:40 oleonard      @wunder 45701