Time Nick Message 23:57 sen hee :) 23:56 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 23:56 wizzyrea confetti 23:55 sen Yay, item added and checking it out works :) 23:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19593 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , [16.11.x] "Delete vendor" button is always set 23:50 jenkins chrisc: Bug 19593: follow up to fix tests 23:50 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #93: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11_D8/93/ 23:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 23:50 jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 23:41 wizzyrea :) 23:41 sen wizzyrea: heh, I just looked at the docs again and they highlight the authorised values as mandatory and they're in a section of the installer labelled MANDATORY. So this seems like 100% my fault! 23:38 KotH beside having a mess 23:37 KotH does it matter whether i mix them? 23:37 KotH ok.. i checked more books, some have an 100a, some dont 23:37 wizzyrea pass, I can make no assertion of knowledge there 23:36 wizzyrea except that it exists ;) 23:36 KotH if france uses unimarc, then switzerland is likely to use it as well 23:36 wizzyrea I know exactly 0 about unimarc. 23:36 wizzyrea UNIMARC is mostly france, and some of europe 23:36 wizzyrea USMARC is what LOC will use, and what I am referencing 23:35 wizzyrea there are different standards in different places, for MARC 23:35 wizzyrea idk what they use in switzerland 23:35 KotH uhmm... what's that? ^^' 23:35 wizzyrea maybe the records are in unimarc? 23:35 KotH half of them are from the library of congress, the other half from the swiss library network 23:35 wizzyrea (it doesn't matter if you are happy with the display though) 23:35 * KotH shrugs 23:34 wizzyrea that seems like you got not good marc records. 23:34 KotH i just got puzzled because none of the entries i got have 100a defined 23:33 KotH ok... 23:33 wizzyrea Generally speaking, the 100a is the place for a single author. In your case, where you just want the record in, it's the right place for it. 23:32 wizzyrea not strictly speaking no 23:32 KotH isnt that 245c? 23:32 wizzyrea the person who wrote it 23:32 wizzyrea that's the author 23:31 KotH wizzyrea: what's the purpose of 100a? the documentation on loc.gov/marc doesnt make sense to me 23:31 sen Heh, makes sense! I'll see if I can figure out where that is and do so. 23:27 wizzyrea so as to keep future you-alikes from having the same problem :) 23:26 wizzyrea if you are inclined, a possible thing would be to patch the installer so that at least the text on that one says "hey you might actually really want these" 23:25 sen Much better! Thanks so much, that would have taken me forever to figure out on my own. 23:24 wizzyrea sen: cool beans :) 23:23 wizzyrea since marc was included in Koha pretty much 23:23 sen wizzyrea: I did import patron categories and item types, just not authorised values :) trying this now. 23:23 wizzyrea that's been there forever 23:23 KotH pops up a window with drop down boxes 23:23 KotH this small, rectangular icon at the right side of fields i have no idea what they mean 23:22 wizzyrea not sure what you mean but glad you are happy :) 23:22 KotH that thing is great! why haven't i seen that before? 23:22 KotH ok,... who do i have to hug for the tag editor? 23:20 wizzyrea patron_categories.sql 23:20 wizzyrea sample_itemtypes.sql 23:20 wizzyrea you might also want, from that same directory 23:19 wizzyrea KotH: I don't remember this but I've slept since then :) 23:19 wizzyrea you can see with sudo koha-list --enabled 23:19 wizzyrea instancename whatever you named your instance 23:19 wizzyrea cat /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql | sudo koha-mysql <instancename> 23:18 wizzyrea ok so you can do 23:18 wizzyrea neat 23:18 sen I'm server savvy, have been a DBA and a sysadmin in past lives :) 23:18 KotH wizzyrea: btw: long long ago, ie in august, we discussed label printing for koha. and you asked that i'd tell you what i choose to do. I ended up writing a short perl script that generates png and another (not so short) perl script that interfaces to the labelprinter 23:17 wizzyrea (are you? how do you feel about the command line?) 23:17 wizzyrea well, if you are server savvy 23:17 sen Ahh, "authorised values" is the keyword I wasn't coming up with, thank you! Now I've found the area where that all gets entered and I can sort it out. I must have missed that checkbox during setup, yep! Is there an easy way to do it now, or am I entering things by hand? 23:17 wizzyrea (we tried to fix it but it was hard (tm) because of translatability) 23:16 wizzyrea lots of people don't and then wonder why there are no values in the drop downs. Some of that sample data shouldn't be optional. 23:15 wizzyrea sen: did you install the default values for authorised values? 23:15 sen So I'm just getting started with Koha, I've got a biblio entry for something (via copy cataloging from a Z39.50 source), but when I try to add a holding entry for that, all the dropdown boxes say "No matches found". Did I miss a setup step somewhere? 23:14 wizzyrea no worries 23:14 wizzyrea there you go. :) 23:14 KotH wizzyrea: thanks! 23:14 KotH it's veeeery unlikely that i'm going to share those records with anyone... it's just my private library :) 23:14 wizzyrea Koha certainly doesn't care. 23:13 wizzyrea pf who cares. 23:13 wizzyrea if you aren't sharing the record and it's only for you 23:13 wizzyrea none really 23:11 KotH and what is the implications of having a non-complete record? 23:11 wizzyrea the record won't be complete, but it will at least turn up in your catalogue. 23:11 wizzyrea ISBN if you must 23:10 wizzyrea my advice is: tab through tab 0, put in a 100a and a 245a, fill in the required fields on tab 9 23:10 KotH ^^' 23:09 cait but marc is a bit like black magic :) 23:09 cait i think on loc.gov/marc there is something like a tutorial 23:07 KotH currently it just looks like black magic ^^' 23:07 KotH are there some #exactsteps how to create one? 23:06 KotH i come here, with the eternal question of what I should do if i cannot find a MARC entry for a book online 23:06 KotH a wonderfull good evening! 20:49 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu it is failing here for me on master" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/116 20:48 rangi Joubu: hmm the db_dependent/Bookseller.t fails on master for me too 19:26 Joubu and it is 19:26 Joubu datereviewed is not supposed to be null 19:25 greenjimll Rightio, I'll hold off signing off on this then, and go home for my tea. :-) 19:23 Joubu oleonard: I am gonna fix it right now 19:23 greenjimll It does seem to fix the problem though... so is it worth signing off or is the "Added" something that needs fixing first? 19:22 greenjimll I tend to think of "comments" as short notes, whereas "reviews" are something a bit more lengthy and in depth. Probably just me though. 19:21 greenjimll I spent a while looking for a separate "reviews" section. :-) 19:21 oleonard The file names and db lag behind that change 19:21 oleonard The interface should always say "comments" 19:20 greenjimll Ah yes, I see what you mean. Incidentally is the terminology of "comments" and "reviews" could do with being a bit more consistent. 19:16 oleonard ...and that led me to notice that the reviews table isn't storing the date of submitted reviews 19:16 oleonard opac-showreviews.pl 19:16 greenjimll Is this in opac-detail.pl? 19:15 oleonard Instead of "Added 2016-12-19 by John Smith" it says "Added" 19:15 oleonard greenjimll: I was just testing that too but got interrupted. Looks okay to me except that in the OPAC the comment labels don't look right when there is no patron 19:13 greenjimll Ah ha, a restart_all gets me the 500 error. 19:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode 19:11 greenjimll Testing Bug 19808 but I don't seem to be able to make master blow up! 19:01 * Joubu still does not have a big red button... 19:01 Joubu it's critical actually 19:00 Joubu must be SO/QA and backported ASAP 19:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19798 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Returns.pl doesn't define itemnumber for transfer-slip. 19:00 Joubu bug 19798 18:59 Joubu you close it without the solution :) 18:49 greenjimll Ah, sorry, didn't spot that and it didn't pop up in my Google searches. Oh well, the issue on kohadevbox can be closed quickly then! 18:48 Joubu greenjimll: ^ 18:47 Joubu I sent an email to koha-devel on December 7th 18:46 Joubu fied 18:46 Joubu it is fied 18:44 greenjimll I'm going to but I thought I'd point this out here as other folk might smash into it if they regularly blow away their kohadevbox DB like I do. ;-) 18:43 cait i think the script is specific to it, so needs to be fixed there probably 18:43 cait maybe file an issue on kohadevbox? 18:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata 18:42 greenjimll Just a heads up: bug 19724 means that reset_all on kohadevbox doesn't build a working database, because the file /home/vagrant/misc4dev/data/sql/marc21/1611/after_17196/biblio_metadata.sql no longer has the right number of values for the columns in the biblio_metadata table. 17:54 oleonard :) 17:54 Joubu oleonard: why are we the only 2 to think the preview for notices is awesome? 17:25 cait handy 17:25 oleonard No idea, but it comes in a convenient 50 pound bag. 17:24 cait oleonard: what does it consist of? 17:08 * oleonard remembers he needs to buy a new bag of kidclamp food 15:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 15:41 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman 15:41 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks 15:41 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #316: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/316/ 15:41 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:41 jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:29 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:29 Joubu @later tell fridolin ping on bug 17951 please 15:09 Joubu khall: I guess the reservedate=CURRENT_DATE() should be adjusted, to have reservedate with different values 15:07 Joubu the holds queue is created in the wrong order, sometimes... 15:06 Joubu Jenkins is failing randomly on this test, but I cannot figure out why 15:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19696 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , HoldsQueue.t is failing randomly 15:06 Joubu khall: could you take a look at bug 19696 please? 15:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19714 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jessicafreeman, Pushed to Master , 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution have not been removed 15:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19510 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrisweeks, Pushed to Master , edi_manage permission has no description 14:59 jenkins * jessicafreeman: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution 14:59 jenkins * chrisweeks: Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions 14:59 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #315: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/315/ 14:58 josef_moravec bye #koha 14:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7456c32a755b5c775dbe17084736b91317e63ee> / Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0303f8730609d4b1393d6f4f500b2df244599c0> 14:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eddc1acd709b13e5804e51cafd487ce506fabadf> / Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e243c36db651c790190ee8c95e2d8fe1ee34cac1> 14:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode 14:11 Joubu Bug 19808 is critical and NSO, It would be good to have it backported for the next stable branches which will be released in few days 13:55 fridolin Joubu: thanks 13:44 Joubu better to email him directly 13:43 Joubu drojf[m]: ^ 13:43 fridolin is it normal ? 13:43 fridolin mmm 13:42 fridolin koha-perldeps unstable is still 17.06.01 13:18 josef_moravec by andreashm 13:18 andreashm ok, I gotta go. bye #koha 13:17 andreashm for 13:17 andreashm we used that fo our rdf project 13:16 andreashm josef_moravec: np 13:16 josef_moravec andreashm: thanks for the link to libris oai, looks perfect for testing ;) 13:16 andreashm then I'll try it out sooner 13:16 andreashm ah ok cool 13:15 josef_moravec you just need to copy the config to /etc/koha 13:15 josef_moravec andreashm: it could, it's just David is not using devbox, so he does not test it on devbox 13:15 cait move of marcxml column? 13:14 andreashm I was under the impression that it couldn't be tested using devbox 13:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 13:14 wahanui it has been said that bug 10662 is a catch all at the moment 13:14 cait bug 10662 13:14 andreashm does that work? 13:14 josef_moravec andreashm: I use kohadevbox for it now 13:14 * andreashm needs to find time to set up a test environment for 10662 13:14 josef_moravec cait: probably yes 13:14 andreashm cait: yeah possibly. 13:13 andreashm say https://libris-qa.kb.se/api/oaipmh/?verb=GetRecord&identifier=https://libris-qa.kb.se/r82pmf132zj0lmd&metadataPrefix=rdfxml 13:13 cait maybe it needs to be adapted to sme changes? 13:12 andreashm you can harvest rdfxml from LIBRIS (Swedish union catalogue) 13:12 josef_moravec I too when I was testing it first time some months ago... 13:12 andreashm (marcxml) 13:12 andreashm ok, I've managed that before. 13:12 josef_moravec would like to try rdf too when I found some source ;) 13:11 josef_moravec I started to harvest marcxml 13:11 andreashm josef_moravec: are you harvesting marc or rdf? or both? 13:11 andreashm josef_moravec++ 12:57 cait josef_moravec++ 12:52 josef_moravec andreashm: Not much... I was able to set things, define a source, the harvester is downloading records, but not importing into Koha, I'am investigating why... 12:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 12:51 andreashm josef_moravec: any luck with testing bug 10662? 12:51 andreashm hi 12:49 wahanui hi oleopard 12:49 josef_moravec hi oleonard 12:49 oleonard Hi all 09:52 cait josef_moravec++ 09:18 cait I still need to post some thoughts about the results of the little survey 09:17 cait thx a lot .) 09:17 josef_moravec cait: working on it ;) 09:16 cait looks about right :) 09:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Correct "whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe." in web installer files 09:16 cait bug 18819 09:14 josef_moravec are they 18819, 19713, 19714, 19510, 18313 and 13676? 09:09 cait do you need the numbers? they probably have the newest time changed int he queue or are among them, 6 bugs 09:05 josef_moravec of course I can ;) 09:05 cait mostly string changes 09:05 cait could you do a quick qa on some first timer patches I signed off this morning and last night? 09:05 cait hi josef_moravec :) 09:04 josef_moravec hi cait 08:40 cait good morning #koha :) 08:25 josef_moravec thanks tuxayo 08:24 tuxayo ^^ 08:24 tuxayo josef_moravec: jajm will be back next year 08:12 josef_moravec hi gaetan_B 08:12 gaetan_B hello 08:03 huginn josef_moravec: The operation succeeded. 08:03 josef_moravec @later tell jajm Are you going to continue work on bug 15516? 07:59 huginn josef_moravec: I suck 07:59 josef_moravec @later ask jajm: Are you going to continue work on bug 15516 ? 07:58 huginn josef_moravec: jajm was last seen in #koha 5 days, 15 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <jajm> Joubu, ok 07:58 josef_moravec @seen jajm 07:52 alex_a bonjour 06:10 josef_moravec morning #koha