Time Nick Message
00:00 mtj ping Joubu, tcohen.. jenkins/docker3 is up again
00:03 mtj ...but, there may be an index/pack problem with the Koha_17.11_D8 repo?
00:05 mtj the /.git/objects/pack dir seems a bit biggish (39 gig)
00:30 mtj btw, really great news from sweden too
00:43 tcohen mtj++
01:30 mtj have others had their servers DOS'd by lots of 'background-job-progress.pl' queries?
01:31 wizzyrea hm we haven't seen that one
01:31 wizzyrea possible that they clicked GO GO GO GO GO GO GO on something, not realising it was already going?
01:33 mtj ...seems that the background-job-progressbar.js refresh is every 500 milliseconds
01:35 mtj hi wizzyrea, no... the requests are from the same job-id... so potentially just a single job/ single browser
01:36 mtj great news tho... fix is to increase the sleep value to 10 secs
01:37 mtj ..a happy number for both system and user
01:38 mtj backgroundJobProgressTimer = setInterval("updateJobProgress()", 10000);
01:39 mtj in... ./intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/background-job-progressbar.js
01:39 mtj fo the logs.. :0)
01:52 chea Hi everyone
01:53 chea anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA!
01:56 chea I was trying to import MARC record from newgenlib to KOHA but it came with partial
02:35 tcohen Hi everyone
02:35 tcohen Thanks for taking care mtj
02:36 tcohen docker node
02:37 gandaro hey everyone
02:37 wahanui hmmm... everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
02:41 gandaro Does Koha support HTTP caching?
02:55 chea hello, anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA! thanks!
03:01 mtj no probs, tcohen
03:05 mtj gandaro, i think no.. that might be the caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service?
03:05 mtj gandaro, i think no.. caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service?
03:06 mtj ...with mod_cache perhaps?
03:06 mtj https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_cache.html
03:11 mtj chea: i think there is not too much info about NGL to Koha on the web ... :'(
03:14 chea mtj: thank for the info. : (
03:15 mtj you can google ... 'newgenlib to koha migration'
03:15 mtj ..someone is asking for advise in 2009 and 2015
03:17 mtj advice too :)
03:17 fk mtj: hm, yeah. the httpd can create the required ETags
03:19 fk Can someone explain to me how the assignee of bugs is determined by Bugzilla
03:19 fk Because there’s always someone whom the bug is assigned to
03:20 fk Even if the bug wasn’t changed since it was reported
03:22 mtj fk, every bugs has a 'component'
03:23 mtj ..every component has a default admin user
03:24 mtj the bug is assigned to its components admin, by default
03:27 mtj chea: the best general advice is to use MarcEdit to get your bib/item records ready for import in Koha
03:28 chea mtj: i tried to export MARC from NGL and import into Koha but the records came with partial only.
03:30 mtj yep.. so i might need to use macedit to correct those problems ^
03:31 chea i see... thank for sharing.. let do a try..
03:31 chea :)
03:41 fk mtj: thank you
03:45 chea mtj: after imported into Marcedit
03:46 chea it's something like this
03:46 chea 01157nam#a0000313ua#124 001001300000008004100013010001500054015001900069016001800088020003100106035002300137040003500160050002400195100002300219245005500242250001200297260003400309300003600343500002000379504005100399650003200450650003100482650002100513906004500534925004200579955019800621082001100819876001300830 ###86104385# 091014r20111985nyua 001 0 eng a2009042360 aGBB031670 2bnb 7 a015495328 2Uk a9781259060632 (alk. paper) aOCoLC)ocn45672
03:46 chea i don't know where to start from this..
06:55 magnuse ~~~
06:56 josef_moravec_away morning #koha
07:01 LibraryClaire hi #koha
07:04 josef_moravec_away hi LibraryClaire
07:04 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec_away :)
07:04 josef_moravec_away ha
07:04 LibraryClaire :D
07:06 * magnuse counts the days before the sun "turns"
07:06 LibraryClaire is it dark now?
07:06 LibraryClaire magnuse: do you have a winter solstice party?
07:07 magnuse right now it is completely dark
07:07 magnuse but it does get light in the middle of the day
07:07 LibraryClaire for how long?
07:07 wahanui for how long are they open?
07:07 * LibraryClaire shoos wahanui
07:07 magnuse hehe
07:08 magnuse depends on how light you want it before you count it as light...
07:08 LibraryClaire :D
07:08 magnuse but maybe 4 hours - if you want light like an overcast summers day
07:08 LibraryClaire ok
07:09 LibraryClaire brrr
07:09 magnuse less than two weeks now and days start getting longer
07:09 magnuse there is very little celebration of the winter solstice
07:09 magnuse i have tried to make it a tradition, but some years i forget...
07:10 magnuse too close to xmas, i guess
07:10 magnuse or... i prefer to see xmas as a (delayed) celebration of the solstice, so that way there is plenty of celebration
07:13 LibraryClaire :D
07:13 LibraryClaire I am going to the UK for Christmas and will be visiting Stonehenge, but will probably miss the solstice by one day!
07:15 LibraryClaire Maybe that's a good thing
07:50 reiveune hello
07:54 magnuse LibraryClaire: cool! are there things in stonehenge that are aligned with the solstice?
07:56 LibraryClaire the stones are positioned to align with the sunrise on the two solstices
07:56 LibraryClaire it should rise directly above one of the stones
07:57 LibraryClaire so in summer and winter a lot of people go there to celebrate, many of them are druids
08:25 magnuse LibraryClaire: i can imagine
08:25 * magnuse had an uncle who was a druid
08:26 gaetan_B hello
08:26 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
08:26 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
08:46 * andreashm waves
08:52 tcohen bonjour
08:53 andreashm hi tcohen
08:54 andreashm tcohen: no accountlines on your rest api list i noticed? =)
08:54 magnuse tjänare andreashm, tcohen
08:54 fridolin hi
08:54 * andreashm tried to get open api to work with 17.05. soooooo not working. gah.
08:54 tcohen andreashm: he, step by step I guess
08:54 * andreashm probably messed up big-time somewhere
09:03 andreashm hi magnuse and fridolin btw!
09:03 * LibraryClaire waves
09:03 andreashm hi LibraryClaire
09:04 tcohen hye magnuse LibraryClaire
09:04 magnuse ~o~
09:07 LibraryClaire hey tcohen, andreashm
09:11 andreashm tcohen: do you know any way I can test Mojolicious/the open api plugin directly to see if they work as intended?
09:11 tcohen some context?
09:12 tcohen there are tests for the existing endpoints
09:13 tcohen or you can just use a separate tool
09:13 tcohen to interact with the API
09:13 tcohen I used HttpRequester on Firefox
09:13 andreashm tcohen: I've upgraded to 17.05. to get bug 15165 to work I updated mojolicous and openapi (manually, since the patch for 18137 didn't apply). after that nothing works. =)
09:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Failed QA , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines
09:13 andreashm I'd like to check that the update/install actually works. before trying more with Kohas endpoints
09:14 tcohen but on newer firefox I had to use RESTer
09:14 andreashm I ran the testsuite. lots of failed tests
09:14 tcohen I usually login into a privileged account
09:14 tcohen and then use RESTer to emulate the interactions
09:14 tcohen i.e.
09:15 tcohen GET http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org:8081/api/v1/patrons
09:15 tcohen (for example)
09:15 tcohen the required changes to the codebase include changes to the core libraries more often
09:16 tcohen so I suggest you don't go that way in production
09:16 tcohen it would be easier to achieve on 17.11
09:18 andreashm yeah
09:18 andreashm we might have to upgrade to 17.11 instead
09:25 magnuse josef_moravec++
09:26 josef_moravec magnuse: could I have a Question? What is the simplest way to install Fuseki for testing?
09:27 cait josef_moravec: looking for the payment type bug... probably got the number confused once again
09:28 * tcohen is surprised the new QAM hasn't pushed him yet into QAing stuff
09:28 cait she is still working up to it
09:29 cait bit of a crazy week, need to get organized this weekend, be afraid starting next week
09:29 cait better yougo and qa something before I get there ... :)
09:30 cait hah
09:30 cait bug 5620
09:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Signed Off , Capture Mode of payment
09:31 josef_moravec cait: thanks, I'll look into it and comment "somehow) ;)
09:31 cait sorry, really bad with numbers
09:33 andreashm josef_moravec: hurray for testing bug 10662!
09:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
09:34 magnuse josef_moravec: sorry, i must confess i don't remember how i did the installation...
09:34 josef_moravec magnuse: no problem, I do try something ;)
09:34 josef_moravec cait: the numbers, I know ;)
09:34 magnuse josef_moravec: if you can/want to use my installation for testing you are more than welcome!
09:35 josef_moravec magnuse: it would be great! could you send me the config?
09:53 cait josef_moravec++
09:56 cait paul_p: around?
10:02 andreashm tcohen: going back to the rest issue. if I don't login first I get an authentication error. which would seem that there is an endpoint. but after login I get a 404. seems weird to me. either it's there, or not?
10:02 tcohen it depends on what you are asking for
10:03 tcohen if you are asking for a non existent resource, you should definitely get a 404
10:04 tcohen for example, you might be trying to GET /api/v1/patrons/666 but there's no such patron id
10:04 tcohen on the DB
10:05 ashimema there are three types of failure we need to work on for such a case.. 401, 403 and 404 and there are various idea's out there about which one's you should use when you take into account security policies..
10:05 andreashm yeah, but I'm looking at something that does excist
10:05 ashimema I don't know what koha chose ;)
10:05 andreashm I get 404 for everything (patrons, checking hold, accountlines)
10:06 andreashm all endpoints
10:06 ashimema is that when your not authenticated on authenticated routes?
10:07 andreashm nope, when I've gotten a cookie
10:07 ashimema so it's some peoples opinion that if a resource requires authentication then it should be entirely hidden from the world (i.e. a 404) if there is no authentication..
10:07 andreashm bofre that, it correctly gives an authentication error
10:07 ashimema other people say you shuold use the proper 403 (to say you need to authenticate)
10:08 ashimema but the latter can open up a DDOS avenue
10:08 andreashm but in this case I have authenticated.
10:08 ashimema so.. we're doing the latter.. if a route 'might' exist and needs auth we send a 403
10:08 andreashm ah
10:09 ashimema if you then authenticate and hit the route again.. if the actual resource doesn't exist we give a 404
10:09 ashimema or if it does we give a 200
10:09 ashimema right?
10:09 andreashm ok, now it makes sense
10:09 ashimema or are you saying the actual resource exists and still gives a 404 after auth
10:09 andreashm if its correct its 200 I think
10:10 andreashm the resource exists... but it seems I've broken.... something in the endpoints/api
10:10 * andreashm upgraded mojolicious+the open api plugin yesterday
10:11 andreashm (testing to see if I can get it to work on 17.05, in order to apply 15165)
10:17 ashimema :)
10:18 * ashimema shirks back to the day job.. which will hopefully involve koha again come february
10:18 ashimema but right now doesn't :'(
10:19 eythian hello
10:19 wahanui kia ora, eythian
12:41 oleonard Hi all
12:44 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:44 wahanui hi olé onard
12:49 eythian huh, there's some kind of "sun" thing visible outside at the moment.
12:49 eythian This morning I got snowed on
12:49 eythian (and luckily avoided a nasty looking hailstorm.)
13:03 oleonard There is evidence that we have a "sun" here to eythian. I'll continue to check throughout the day and provide you with updates.
13:04 eythian Breaking news indeed.
13:11 oleonard Current evidence feels circumstantial. http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15127385983967
13:12 Joubu oleonard: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14966687495978
13:12 Joubu where is that?
13:13 oleonard That was an idea for changing the way the patron search options work
13:13 Joubu I like it
13:14 oleonard At the time no one else said they did :)
13:14 oleonard ...no one else who happened to be reading the bug I guess.
13:15 Joubu what's the bug number?
13:15 oleonard To be fair, it was a suggestion for a bug fix rather than an enhancement. I'll try to find it.
13:28 LibraryClaire Anyone know what triggers the offline circulation module to think of you as 'offline'? Mine won't let me sync or look at pending things cos I'm 'offline' (but I'm very definitely online)
13:28 oleonard Joubu: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2017-06-12#i_1943005
13:28 oleonard It was about Bug 18685
13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18685 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Patron edit/cancel floating toolbar out of place
13:29 LibraryClaire I was bug testing and got an internal server error and since then it hates me, even on master
13:31 oleonard Ghosts.
13:31 tcohen IIIIIIIIIII love teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeests
13:32 * tcohen got up too early and forgot the pill
13:34 * LibraryClaire shoos away the ghosts
14:09 oleonard Anyone here familiar with the "additional fields" option for serials?
14:16 Joubu oleonard: what's the question?
14:16 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
14:17 oleonard What is supposed to happen if I create a field and specify a tag?
14:18 oleonard Is something supposed to appear in the field input on the subscription add/edit page?
14:18 Joubu when you edit a subscription, the additional field will be automatically filled with the value from the MARC
14:19 Joubu yes (or just after you save?)
14:20 cait Joubu: that didn't work for me :(
14:20 Joubu It sais "This value will be filled with the 245$a subfield of the selected biblio."
14:20 Joubu says
14:20 cait maybe we did it wrong
14:20 cait i think we entered 245$a
14:20 cait i put it on the docs wish list i think,t he page has no real help
14:20 Joubu works for me
14:20 cait how did you enterß
14:21 Joubu 245$a
14:21 cait hm
14:21 Joubu | 1 | subscription | xxx | | 245$a | 1 |
14:21 Joubu and the interface displays:
14:21 Joubu Additional fields:
14:21 cait ok, we did the same
14:21 Joubu xxx: E Street shuffle :
14:21 cait now when you add the subscription or when you edit it too?
14:21 Joubu add a new one
14:22 cait so it won't get updated?
14:22 Joubu edit works as well BUT it does not display on the edit/add page
14:22 Joubu the field is disabled and filled when saved
14:22 cait if you make it searchable it turns up on the search
14:23 Joubu yes
14:23 cait ah
14:23 Joubu and the search/fitler works
14:23 cait if you edit it it updates
14:23 cait edit the subscription
14:23 cait cool
14:23 oleonard I hadn't put in a subfield along with the tag. We should probably add some hints
14:23 cait we recently had an 'internal serials training' and some problems figuring that one out
14:23 cait oleonard: agreed!
14:24 cait oleonard: the marc tag is optional, most of our libraries use it just to store additional information, links, binding information, etc.
14:24 Joubu if I edit the title of the record, I have a update the subscription
14:25 Joubu the additional fields are not updated when the bibliographic record is edited
14:25 Joubu only when the subscription is edited
14:25 Joubu (I suggested a cronjob script to keep them in sync)
14:29 cait Joubu: it worked for me
14:29 cait i changed the 145$a, edited and now it shows the new value
14:30 cait ah
14:30 cait yes, you are completely right
14:30 cait was reading too fast
14:32 Joubu (I do not understand what I wrote either... sounds like I forgot a couple of words)
15:28 kellym good morning!
15:28 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
15:29 oleonard Why don't you go check your mascara, wahanui
15:29 wahanui oleonard: sorry...
15:37 reiveune bye
16:19 fridolin whouuu packaging for 17.11 is out
16:19 fridolin thanks droj
16:19 fridolin f
16:20 clrh :)
16:29 * Joubu tries to imagine wahanui with mascara
18:29 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #3: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/3/
18:35 * LeeJ waves
18:35 LeeJ hi #koha
18:54 oleonard No one here LeeJ. All empty.
18:55 LeeJ just like my soul and motivation, oleonard
19:00 oleonard It is Friday, after all LeeJ
19:00 LeeJ that's true
19:00 LeeJ I always forget everyone else has an actual life outside of work lol
19:57 oleonard Bye all