Time Nick Message 07:01 magnuse ~~~ 07:18 LibraryClaire hi magnuse 07:18 wahanui kamelåså 07:19 magnuse Guten Morgen, BüchereiKlara. Wie geht's? 08:08 alex_a bonjour 08:10 gaetan_B hello 08:10 wahanui hola, gaetan_B 08:11 LibraryClaire hi magnuse, gut danke! Sorry was looking at my other screens :D 08:22 reiveune hello 08:32 fridolin hi there 08:32 wahanui privet, fridolin 08:37 magnuse LibraryClaire: me too :-) 09:28 clrh hi 09:44 magnuse bonjour clrh 09:48 eythian hi 09:48 wahanui niihau, eythian 10:56 * cait wabes 10:56 cait hm 10:56 * cait waves 10:56 josef_moravec ;) 10:56 cait feels like Monday... 11:16 * mveron waves 12:42 oleonard Yo 12:43 tcohen hi oleonard 12:43 wahanui hi oleopard 12:49 Joubu hola #koha 12:49 tcohen hola Joubu 12:51 LibraryClaire hi oleonard and Joubu and tcohen 12:55 oleonard matts++ 12:55 matts oleonard, for koct ? 12:55 oleonard Yes, thanks! 12:55 matts you're welcome :) 12:56 oleonard With so much going wrong with Firefox addons these days, it's nice to get some good news! 12:56 matts It just has been approved by Mozilla, so the update should be available right now 12:56 * oleonard sheds a tear for Tabs Mix Plus 12:57 eythian I think I saw some tab extensions were coming back 12:57 eythian not perfectly yet, but getting there 12:58 tcohen matts++ 13:02 oleonard Does anyone know why a lost item fee might not be charged to the patron's account... sometimes? 13:02 oleonard In our production 17.05.05 installation fees are charged for lost items in some tests but not others. 13:03 oleonard I didn't think there were any patron category-related settings for it 13:04 oleonard WhenLostChargeReplacementFee is set to "charge" 13:04 tcohen is it a vanilla 17.05? 13:06 oleonard Yes 13:18 Joubu 17.05.? 13:18 wahanui somebody said 17.05 was coming very soon, do we have time for majors and criticals? 13:18 Joubu .05, sorry :) 13:20 Joubu there is WhenLostForgiveFine as well 13:20 Joubu but if it is on the same installation, the behaviour should stay the same 13:24 Joubu @seen marcelr 13:24 huginn Joubu: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <marcelr> he just got out 13:27 tcohen alex_a: around? 13:28 alex_a tcohen: yes! 13:28 alex_a (hello) 13:28 tcohen I'm looking at the libraries endpoint right now 13:29 tcohen would you agree it is a good candidate for renaming all the attributes? 13:29 tcohen branchname => name, branchcity => city, and so on? 13:30 tcohen and there are a couple 'unused' params we should definitely remove from the API 14:54 tcohen dev meeting? 14:54 wahanui i guess dev meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Developers_IRC_Meetings 14:55 cait now? 14:55 wahanui hey now now, sing this corrosion to me 14:55 Joubu next meeting? 14:55 Joubu next meetings? 14:55 Joubu next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:56 Joubu next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:56 Joubu next dev meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:56 Joubu next meeting? 14:56 wahanui well, next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:58 cait pet peeve... don't link 'here' 14:58 cait links shoudl be meaningful words :) 14:59 oleonard Agreed 15:00 Freddy_Enrique Hi everyone 15:01 cait hi Freddy_Enrique 15:16 Joubu calendar? 15:16 wahanui calendar is right 15:16 Joubu calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 15:17 tcohen wahanui: forget that 15:17 wahanui tcohen: I forgot that 15:17 Joubu calendar? 15:17 wahanui calendar is right 15:17 Joubu forget calendar 15:17 wahanui Joubu: I forgot calendar 15:17 Joubu calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 15:17 Joubu calendar? 15:17 wahanui i guess calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 15:17 Joubu good guess 15:17 tcohen .-P 15:18 Freddy_Enrique I'm getting scared.... 15:18 Freddy_Enrique looks like virus 15:20 eythian Joubu: try: 15:20 eythian no wahanui, calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 15:20 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian. 15:20 eythian for that sort of thing 15:20 eythian it does a replace 15:20 Joubu eythian: thanks, I will try to remember that :) 15:20 tcohen eythian: you mean trolling wahanui? 15:20 oleonard no wahanui, capybara is the largest rodent 15:21 eythian capybara? 15:21 wahanui capybara is the largest rodent 15:21 eythian tcohen: would I ever do something like that? 15:21 eythian hi oleonard 15:21 wahanui hi dear loon 15:21 * tcohen looks suspiciously at eythian 15:22 Joubu oleonard: ! I saw hundred of them this week-end! 15:22 Joubu they are called carpincho here 15:23 * oleonard is jealous 15:23 eythian wahanui: carpincho is <reply>ask me about the capybara, $who 15:23 wahanui OK, eythian. 15:24 Joubu they look like a mix between a guinea pig and hippopotamuses... 15:25 Joubu the nature is weird sometimes 15:33 Freddy_Enrique jajaja 16:13 reiveune bye 16:58 Joubu tcohen: Does bug 19760 make sense to you? 16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible 17:33 Joubu @later tell tcohen Does bug 19760 make sense to you? 17:33 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 17:41 oleonard Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/serials/routing.pl line 99 17:42 oleonard Oh I wonder if this is because of my messed-up borrowers table again. 17:42 * LeeJ waves 17:42 LeeJ hi #koha 17:43 greenjimll Hi! 17:43 Joubu oleonard: I guess so, subscriptionroutinglist has a FK on borrowers, so it should not happen 17:43 LeeJ hi greenjimll 17:44 greenjimll Bug 19760 looks pretty sensible to me - if there's no config things are likely to go badly wrong anyway. 17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible 17:46 Joubu greenjimll: so you are going to sign it off, right? :) 17:46 greenjimll Just firing up the old kohadevbox now. 18:00 greenjimll OK, I've signed off on 19760. Even documented my test. :-) 18:06 Joubu thx! 18:17 tcohen Joubu: I would raise an exception instead, of course 18:25 * cait waves 18:28 greenjimll Hi Cait 18:28 cait hi greenjimll 18:33 em_ hey guys 18:34 em_ i am trying to open OPAC page and it says Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page error and I'm not able to access it... can anyone help? 18:36 Joubu em_: Try to disable the default site 18:36 em_ it was working fine before... until I try to build zebra files 18:36 Joubu sudo a2dissite default; sudo reload apache2 18:36 Joubu sudo service apache2 reload 18:38 em_ sudo dissite default... I get the error message ERROR: Site default does not exist! 18:39 Joubu sudo a2dissite 000-default 18:39 em_ site 000-deault lready disabled 18:40 em_ *already 18:40 Joubu Tale a look at the apache logs then 18:40 em_ how do I do that? 18:41 Joubu sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log 18:41 Joubu then hit the page 18:41 em_ i went ahead and tried sudo reload apace2... it gave me error: reload: unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/up start:connection refused 18:42 Joubu ubuntu version? 18:43 em_ yes 18:43 Joubu which ubuntu version are you using? 18:43 Joubu did you made an upgrade recently? 18:45 em_ 16.04 LTS 18:45 em_ no i haven't made any upgrades 18:45 em_ but I was trying to do the zebra files 18:46 em_ I was following the steps from http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2013/08/installing-multiple-instances-of-koha.html this link 18:46 Joubu it's old and certainly wrong 18:46 em_ ohh 18:46 Joubu please follow the official documentation 18:46 em_ didn't know that 18:46 em_ where is the official document? 18:46 em_ the only thing I got is this https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#Zebra-related 18:47 em_ and here it only gave me commands but didn't give me how to set up zebra files 18:47 Joubu installation? 18:47 wahanui installation is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 18:47 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 18:48 Joubu you just need the rebuild command 18:48 em_ how do i rebuild it? 18:49 em_ is there a way I can get my OPAC page back online? 18:49 Joubu On the link you just pasted: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename 18:50 em_ ok 18:51 em_ it still doesn't bring back my opac 18:51 em_ it now says this site can't be reached 18:52 Joubu sudo service apache2 restart 18:52 Joubu and look at the apache logs 18:52 * LeeJ waves to cait 18:52 em_ what should I be looking in the log... 18:53 Joubu open 2 terminals: 18:53 Joubu on the first one: sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log 18:53 Joubu on the second one: sudo service apache2 restart 18:53 Joubu and get back to the first one 18:53 em_ ok 18:54 em_ now to look at the log i need to use the command sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log right? 18:55 Joubu yes 18:55 em_ ok 18:57 em_ when I enter this sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log command I get a huge chunk of text in the terminal itself... 18:57 em_ is it correct? 18:57 Joubu ye 18:57 Joubu s 18:58 em_ where can I find the 2 terminals in that? 18:58 em_ or what should I do next? 19:01 Joubu I am sorry, I have no idea how I can help more 19:01 Joubu you need to know what is the apache error. This error should be in the apache log file (/var/log/apache2/error.log) when the apache2 service is restart (sudo service apache2 restart) 19:06 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when trying to preview routing slip" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103 19:08 Joubu oleonard: master? 19:08 wahanui master is the development branch of koha 19:08 oleonard Yes 19:09 Joubu how can I try that? 19:10 cait make a subscription 19:10 oleonard Serials -> Find subscription -> "Edit routing list" in the sidebar -> Save -> "Save and preview routing slip" 19:10 cait ah :) 19:11 cait make sure routing is turned on in system preferences :) 19:14 Joubu work for me 19:15 oleonard Thanks for checking Joubu 19:15 Joubu ha no 19:15 Joubu it explodes if I add a recipent 19:18 Joubu oleonard: outch, that is very wrong. Did you open a bug report yet? 19:18 oleonard No 19:28 Joubu bug 19766 19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19766 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Preview routing slip is broken 19:35 Joubu patch attached 19:37 cait Joubu++ 19:38 Freddy_Enrique Heh.... 19:40 oleonard Works for me Joubu, thanks 19:41 Joubu This routine is very badly written :-/ 19:43 cait routing code is pretty old 19:43 cait we have quite a few broken features in serials too 19:43 cait there is a patch from biblibre about mulitple routing lists... that also fixed routing list holds 19:43 cait but it got stuck somewhere :( 19:45 Joubu bug 7957 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Routing lists: manage several routing list for each subscription, and export them as CSV 19:47 oleonard As far as I can tell serial-issues.pl isn't used at all. I can't find any link to it. 19:47 cait hm have you checked bugzilla? 19:48 cait hm thought i had seen a bug report coming ot the same conclusion 19:48 cait but not finding it 19:48 Joubu oleonard: you should leave this area ASAP 19:49 oleonard :) 19:49 * oleonard looks for his hard hat 19:49 Joubu koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues-full.tt: <a class=" button serial" href="serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]&selectview=small">Compact view</a> 19:49 Joubu koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues.tt: <a href="/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]&selectview=full">Complete view</a> 19:49 oleonard Right, it only links to itself! 19:49 Joubu the second one it not relevant 19:50 cait have you tried accessing it? 19:51 Joubu I think there is a trick to access it from the interface, but cannot find it with grep 19:51 oleonard It seems to kind of work. It's like the OPAC version. But I think it duplicates what subscription-detail shows. 19:53 cait i don't have subscriotions in this database 19:53 cait have to create data 19:54 oleonard Yeah that's the worst part about testing subscriptions :( 19:54 cait heh 19:54 cait which parameter does it take? 19:54 oleonard biblionumber 19:54 wahanui somebody said biblionumber was Koha's internal id number, its used by Koha, and shouldnt be used by humans for anything 19:54 cait ah i see 19:54 cait biblionumber 19:54 wahanui i heard biblionumber was Koha's internal id number, its used by Koha, and shouldnt be used by humans for anything 19:54 Joubu I always click "next" several times, like when you install something on windows 19:54 cait i thin i'd file a bug to remove it 19:54 * Joubu likes that 19:56 oleonard Bug 19767 19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19767 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , serial-issues.pl is unused and should be removed 19:59 Joubu koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues-full.tt: <a href="opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]" class="button">Back to biblio</a> 19:59 Joubu it points to the opac page... 20:00 oleonard Time to go. See y'all later. 20:50 mavhc Hi, I'm looking at advising some schools in UK to switch to Koha as their current system is terrible, but they do like the kid friendly interface, is anyone working on interface improvements I can read about? 20:51 cait hm I think some have creeated a more kid friendly look with the customizations options in Koha 20:51 cait using CSS 20:51 wahanui rumour has it using CSS is a bit better than jquery - will work even if people have javascript off 20:51 cait you can also turn on/off a lot of the features in the OPAC 20:51 kidclamp *cough* caboose *cough* ^ 20:51 cait heh 20:58 mavhc thanks, I'll check out the css options 21:45 LeeJ mavhc: hi! if you're able to catch caboose when he's on he can be a lot more helpful on the topic of kid-friendly OPACs :) 21:45 LeeJ (as kidclamp referenced to) 21:50 cait /me waves at LeeJ 21:51 LeeJ cait: hi!\ 21:51 * cait waves 21:52 cait ah better 21:53 LeeJ :D 21:55 LeeJ cait: I don't know where we should begin for the 18.05 kohadocs..how did you pick where to start? :P 21:56 cait i didn't really 21:56 cait ... just somewhere heh 21:56 cait i wanted to do more of course 21:59 cait system prefs maybe? 22:00 LeeJ I like the idea lol 22:54 LeeJ bye #koha