Time  Nick              Message
00:25 Joubu             @later tell fridolin what you reported yesterday morning on #koha does not sound correct. You should double check the configuration and read my answer on the list
00:25 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:26 Joubu             @later tell fridolin wrong pref value picked from "the cache" sounds definitely wrong too. The value is picked from memcached (and nowhere else) and the cache is cleared when the value is updated
00:26 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:27 Joubu             @later tell fridolin there is no black magic here...
00:27 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:28 Joubu             @later tell fridolin I use template_cache + memcached + plack for more than 6 months without any problems on kohadevbox
00:28 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:44 rangi             @later tell joubu fetching the openhub stuff with perl now, to avoid the cross domain problem
07:44 huginn            rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:44 rangi             @later tell joubu the ones on translate are the ones done by bernardo
07:44 huginn            rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:47 rangi             @later tell joubu en, fr, de, and es are on the main koha site, do you want any others generated (no others have much translated)
07:47 huginn            rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:05 gaetan_B          hello
08:05 reiveune          hello
09:31 magnuse           ~~~
09:32 LibraryClaire1    confetti
09:32 wahanui           o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
10:08 eythian           hi
10:40 * cait            waves
10:40 josef_moravec     hi cait
10:47 cait              hi josef_moravec :)
10:47 cait              josef_moravec++ thx again for qa
10:47 cait              hope to join you soon on the dashboard :)
10:47 josef_moravec     ;)
10:48 josef_moravec     I am trying to learn how to QA ;) so just doing easy ones yet
10:53 LibraryClaire1    josef_moravec++
12:20 magnuse           josef_moravec++
12:39 oleonard          Hi all
12:41 Joubu             rangi: yes I think it would be good to have html, pdf and epub generated for all the available languages. Even if not much are translated
12:48 LibraryClaire1    hi sir leo
12:49 josef_moravec     Joubu: we are planning to give some effort to czech translation of manual, so we would appreciate it too ;)
12:49 * cait            waves
12:49 cait              kidclamp: cloud library?
12:50 kidclamp          http://www.yourcloudlibrary.com/index.php/en-us/
12:50 cait              interesting
12:50 wahanui           somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
12:50 cait              some kind of universal app?
12:51 kidclamp          ebook, I think comparable to  overdrive or one click
13:01 LibraryClaire1    anyone had issues when trying to use the Built-in offline circulation interface? It keeps telling me I cannot sync or check pending offline circulation actions 'Because I am offline'
13:01 LibraryClaire1    on master
13:02 LibraryClaire1    the synchronisation seemed to work ok until I started testing some check outs and check ins and then I got an internal server error and after that it just tells me I'm offline
13:03 oleonard          LibraryClaire1: Everything was working okay for me (except for Bug 16603)
13:03 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16603 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , When processing uploaded offline circulation file, "apply directly" option fails
13:04 LibraryClaire1    bum
13:04 oleonard          I was working in Firefox, FWIW
13:04 LibraryClaire1    why is mine being weird :/
13:04 LibraryClaire1    yeah am in Firefox too
13:04 LibraryClaire1    I was testing bug 19744
13:04 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Offline circulation
13:04 oleonard          Yeah but mine has these cool flames painted on the side LibraryClaire1
13:05 * LibraryClaire1  does not have cool flames
13:05 LibraryClaire1    :(
13:05 LibraryClaire1    (I get the issues in master too, not just when testing the patch, so it's likely not patch related)
13:11 oleonard          LibraryClaire1++
13:11 oleonard          josef_moravec++
13:11 oleonard          Thanks for your help testing my patches!
13:11 josef_moravec     oleonard: you're welcome
13:12 LibraryClaire1    you'e welcome :)
13:14 oleonard          kidclamp: You were in Hüsker Dü?! https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xmC0xRHVeMs/TkHc2ZyU7SI/AAAAAAAAAgM/utaGaCXjz5M/s1600/husker-du-emh-mnsaa.jpg
13:14 kidclamp_away     :{)
13:16 oleonard          My problem now with Bug 17858 is that there's mostly only hard ones left.
13:16 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Move staff client JavaScript to the footer
13:17 LibraryClaire1    well that's no fun
13:17 oleonard          Acquisitions has... a lot of templates...
13:18 oleonard          Also I don't understand Acquisitions.
13:18 LibraryClaire1    :()
13:18 magnuse           has anyone considered displaying the number of holds/reserves on a biblio, on the detail view page?
13:18 magnuse           ...in the opac?
13:18 * oleonard        thought there was a preference for that
13:19 oleonard          OPACShowHoldQueueDetails ?
13:19 josef_moravec     oleonard: and we probably need some rule or QA check, to make sure new development will stay with javascript in the footer...
13:19 magnuse           oh?
13:19 LibraryClaire1    oleonard was faster
13:22 magnuse           oleonard++
13:22 magnuse           how did i not find that?
13:36 clrh              hello
13:38 alex_a            Hello, what would be the correct permission that allow to list branches via REST API?
13:44 oleonard          Joubu? tcohen? ^^
13:48 Joubu             alex_a: what is the context?
13:48 wahanui           hmmm... the context is everything?
13:48 Joubu             you want to add these routes?
13:48 Joubu             bug 16497?
13:48 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mail, Failed QA , Add routes to list libraries
13:48 Joubu             the permissions must be the same than the ones we have from the Koha interface
13:52 alex_a            Joubu: the context is that i get all libraries (branches) via REST API i.e api/v1/branches
13:54 Joubu             you are testing 16497?
13:54 Joubu             these routes are not in master yet afaik
13:56 oleonard          Joubu (and other smart people) Are there other characters we should avoid in branch codes to keep command-line scripts happy?
13:57 Joubu             oleonard: I would only reject space characters
13:58 oleonard          Okay Joubu, I wanted to double-check.
13:58 jcamins           oleonard: I'd also avoid backslashes, without any context at all.
13:59 tcohen            alex_a: the problem is not listing branches (they are available in the OPAC anyway) but the metadata about them
13:59 oleonard          jcamins: Acceptable characters in branch codes
13:59 tcohen            we need to filter out attributes that are not expected for unprivileged users
13:59 jcamins           Yup, I'd say that you should consider backslashes to be not acceptable.
14:00 jcamins           I find my life is generally better the fewer backslashes it involves.
14:00 tcohen            "' AND 1=1 ; DROP TABLE borrowers;" shouldn't be allowed
14:01 jcamins           tcohen: good call.
14:01 Joubu             yes sure but if someone decide to make their life complicated, why should not we let doing it? ;)
14:01 tcohen            hahahahaha
14:01 tcohen            Joubu++
14:01 jcamins           Joubu: because they'll be privmsging you on the weekend to ask why all their borrowers are gone. :P
14:01 Freddy_Enrique    Hi Koha
14:02 Freddy_Enrique    Joubu, you there :)?
14:02 tcohen            for example
14:03 Joubu             Freddy_Enrique: sounds like I am around yes
14:04 Freddy_Enrique    I was able to fix the issues in the system. You know, the corrupted data.
14:05 Freddy_Enrique    Now, can I prevent it to happen again following the instruction in the wiki? The autoincrement....
14:05 Freddy_Enrique    or should I wait an update?
14:10 Freddy_Enrique    DBMS auto increment fix
14:15 Joubu             you must setup what is written on the wiki
14:19 Freddy_Enrique    Ok, ill follow the instruction :). One more thing... I am not so familiar with this, but I always follow the official instruction in which I only use one INSTANCE
14:19 Freddy_Enrique    I see in the wiki something about.....a multiple koha instance.... is it posible to have more than one?
14:20 Freddy_Enrique    what are the benefits of having multiple instances?
14:20 oleonard          Freddy_Enrique: For multiple independent libraries being hosted on one server
14:24 oleonard          When I add orders from a staged file, there is an "Item information" tab, but it is empty. I know the staged file has items. Should they show up there?
14:32 Freddy_Enrique    :oleonard thanks :)
14:37 gaetan_B          hi kidclamp! we're having a good look at elasticsearch these days, i think you worked quite a bit on it didn't you?
14:37 kidclamp          I have put some time there, yes
14:38 gaetan_B          i think i'll have a number of questions, do you mind my disturbing you with this?
14:39 oleonard          jajm: Do you think Bug 11708 will ever be resurrected?
14:39 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate
14:41 kidclamp          not at all
14:41 kidclamp          go for it gaetan_B
14:41 gaetan_B          we're wondering about the mappings.yaml file, very few fields (in the elasticsearch understanding of the word) seem to have a type, is that still a work in progress or is it intended?
14:42 gaetan_B          also what is supposed to happen when you do reset&i_know_what_i_am_doing=1 in the staff interface ?
14:43 gaetan_B          we thought it was supposed to erase the whole ES mappings setup to reload the content of mappings.yaml, but that's not exactly what it does it seems
14:43 kidclamp          I think we assume string type if not specified, we can implement more if needed
14:43 gaetan_B          yes everything ends up as text if undefined it seems
14:44 kidclamp          reset I think should reload from that file - currently it only reset matchigns fields and doesn't clear extra settings, which it should likely do - Joubu any thoughts?
14:44 kidclamp          yeah, I think you are right gaetan_B, I started a patch but didn't finish it
14:44 gaetan_B          ahhh that's what we were confused about
14:45 gaetan_B          is there a bz we should look at?
14:46 kidclamp          trying to see if I did submit anything on it
14:47 kidclamp          bug 19482
14:47 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19482 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Elasticsearch - prevent removal / editing of required indexes
14:50 gaetan_B          thanks kidclamp! we'll have a look
14:51 Joubu             indeed it only reset the mappings
14:51 Joubu             Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch->reset_elasticsearch_mappings;
14:51 laurence          Joubu: hello
14:51 wahanui           hey, laurence
14:51 Joubu             I guess it was expected (when I wrote it)
14:51 Joubu             Salut laurence
14:51 laurence          Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17255#c38
14:51 huginn            04Bug 17255: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 5.1
14:51 laurence          how solve such error ? we have the problem
14:52 laurence          authority search broken
14:52 Joubu             laurence: there is no mapping for authorities in unimarc
14:52 laurence          Joubu: we added them
14:52 Joubu             bug 17373
14:53 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17373 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC
14:53 laurence          Joubu: we are testing this patch
14:54 laurence          Joubu: Set fielddata=true on [Heading.phrase] : where should I do that ?
14:54 Joubu             laurence: no idea
14:54 laurence          k
14:54 Joubu             kidclamp: ^?
14:54 wahanui           ^ is, like, what I think too
14:54 kidclamp          laurence, rather than setting fielddata the field should be marked as....keyword? is a setting thing
14:55 clrh              thanks kidclamp (we are 6 people of BibLibre working on ES during 24 hours - same room ;)
14:56 kidclamp          you may need to clear the mapping from the db completely then reload
14:56 magnuse           biblibre++
14:56 kidclamp          reset_all in kohadevbox is a good friend
14:56 gaetan_B          kidclamp: is it something to be done in the yaml file ? in the interface we can't choose keyword
14:57 gaetan_B          is the type in the yaml file related to the type in the interface?
14:57 kidclamp          it happens in Koha/SearchEngine/ElasticSearch.pm sub get_elasticsearch_mappings
14:58 kidclamp          facet or sort are makred as keyword so they can be sorted etc
14:58 Joubu             clrh: bug 18235 and bug 17500: these 2 bugs are waiting for feedback for about 1 year. The lack of feedback on these 2 bugs make me go away of ES development
14:58 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Elastic search - Configurable facets
14:58 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons
15:00 oleonard          Joubu: My problem with transferstoreceive.pl was an outstanding hold for a patron who no longer existed (who I removed incorrectly, so my fault)
16:03 talljoy_walkabout morning/afternoon koha
17:07 pianohacker       hi all
17:12 edveal            Hi pianohacker!
17:14 oleonard          Hi pianohacker, what's new?
17:27 pianohacker       hi edveal, oleonard :) not much, just different frontend work
18:07 * LeeJ            waves
18:07 LeeJ              hi #koha
18:08 LeeJ              Joubu: just saw your later...thanks
18:08 LeeJ              edveal caboose when to meet?
18:14 caboose           hi LeeJ!
18:14 caboose           Have some time Thursday to meet?
18:14 LeeJ              I'm free any time except 10-11:30 EST
18:29 caboose           Sweet! would 3:00pm work for you?
18:30 LeeJ              that would work for me, yeah
18:30 LeeJ              just have to figure out if it works for edveal
18:31 caboose           cool :)
18:31 caboose           I'm stoked
18:54 LeeJ              @later caboose me too! I've spent the afternoon migrating the content from the kohadocs framapad to the kanban so everything is organized..figured we can start going hard on it after we meet
18:54 huginn            LeeJ: I suck
18:54 LeeJ              @later tell caboose me too! I've spent the afternoon migrating the content from the kohadocs framapad to the kanban so everything is organized..figured we can start going hard on it after we meet
18:54 huginn            LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:02 oleonard          kohadocs framapad kanban. None of those are words.
19:03 kidclamp          covfefe
19:03 oleonard          Watch your mouth
19:06 LeeJ              caboose I just sent you a later
19:06 caboose           nice!
19:06 LeeJ              oleonard: oh hush :P
19:07 caboose           LeeJ++
19:07 * LeeJ            will be running on caffeine and anxiety all month
19:08 LeeJ              (mostly anxiety)
19:10 edveal            LeeJ So what do you need me to test?
19:10 LeeJ              edveal: are you available 3 PM EST on Thursday?
19:11 edveal            Should be that is right after the BWS town hall meeitng.
19:13 LeeJ              edveal: okay
19:13 LeeJ              sweet
19:14 LeeJ_afk          edveal: for now..just browse around the kanban (Taiga). I've migrated quite a bit of content to it from the old notepad we had the todo info on for 17.11
19:14 LeeJ_afk          I'll bbs
19:38 Joubu             tcohen: can you create the 17.11 branch for koha-testing-docker please?
19:39 tcohen            it depends :-P
19:39 Joubu             on what?
19:40 tcohen            I mean, of course
19:40 tcohen            :-P
19:51 Joubu             drojf[m]: around?
19:51 oleonard          Why might a lost item fee not be charged to the patron's account... sometimes?
19:51 Joubu             drojf[m]: do you know when you will have time to build the debian packages for 17.11?
19:53 jenkins           Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #1: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/1/
19:57 edveal            LeeJ and caboose so are wee meeting at are you available 3 PM EST this  Thursday?
19:58 caboose           yep edveal!
19:58 Freddy_Enrique    Excuse me guys... I've got a question. I can't locate mysql : https://snag.gy/Aj65xI.jpg
19:59 edveal            Ok, I will put it on my calendar. IRC meeting or Zoom?
19:59 Freddy_Enrique    Or should I just paste the command anyway?
20:00 tcohen            by #koha
20:00 LeeJ              edveal: I'm fine with either..maybe zoom since it's just us 3?
20:11 edveal            LeeJ well just let me know.
20:11 LeeJ              I'm fine with zoom if caboose is
20:13 caboose           yep seems good
20:24 Joubu             Freddy_Enrique: grep -r mysqld /etc/mysql
20:24 Joubu             maybe it's located in another conf gile
20:24 Joubu             file
20:24 Joubu             otherwise you can create it
20:36 Freddy_Enrique    Joubu: I executed that command, this is what I get: https://snag.gy/IHc94t.jpg
20:36 Freddy_Enrique    does that help with something?
20:38 Joubu             there is a mysqld block in 50-server.cnf, you can add the line in this file
20:40 Freddy_Enrique    Working on it :)
20:40 Freddy_Enrique    Joubu+
20:41 LeeJ              edveal caboose great! so then we'll do a zoom thursday 3 PM EST..can one of you send out an email invite? :)
20:42 caboose           I'm on it :)
20:42 LeeJ              thanks! :D
20:42 edveal            thanks
20:42 LeeJ              caboose++
20:42 Freddy_Enrique    found it!
20:42 edveal            caboose++ LeeJ++
20:45 caboose           yo edveal what is your email address again?
20:47 edveal            eveal@mckinneytexas.org
20:47 edveal            BWS needs to update their address book. LOL
20:50 caboose           yeah you are in our system, but no email :)
20:50 edveal            Tell NateC to get on top of that.
20:51 caboose           sent...looking forward to seeing your beautiful faces on Thursday :)
20:51 LeeJ              :D
20:51 LeeJ              I'll have to remember to join from my laptop :P
20:51 edveal            Caboose what you sent was for today not Thursday.
20:51 caboose           ah..will update
20:52 LeeJ              hmm..anyone have suggestions about handling table insertion race conditions?
20:52 edveal            And isn’t it 3 EST?
20:52 edveal            Thanks caboose
20:53 caboose           :)
20:53 LeeJ              caboose++ edveal++
20:53 caboose           :)
21:41 LeeJ              have a good night all
21:52 * cait            waves
21:55 wizzycray         hi cait
21:55 edveal            hi cait
21:59 cait              :)
22:19 wizzycray         cait about?
22:19 cait              kind of :)
22:19 wizzycray         what's the best link for someone who wants to help with documentation
22:19 wizzycray         currently
22:19 wizzycray         that stuff has moved around a bit lately
22:20 cait              editing the manual?
22:20 wahanui           i heard editing the manual was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
22:20 edveal            Yes, LeeJ, caboose and I are working on getting things for documentation organized.
22:21 wizzycray         cool thank you