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(v 0.1.4) 21:52 cait #endmeeting 21:52 cait #agreed next meeting will be on Monday, 13 November, 21 UTC 21:50 kellym-kohamtg that date works for me! 21:50 georgewilliams 13th works here 21:50 cait same time? at least we should go into winter time before that, so a little bette rfor me (if I calculated correctly) 21:50 cait 13th 21:50 caboose-kohatmtg that works for me 21:49 cait is a week later still ok? maybe monday? 21:49 cait so that week is generally bad for me, unless somoene else could chair 21:49 cait hm will be having trainign that week 21:48 BobB Nov 8 is a Wednesday 21:48 Joubu maybe 9th then 21:48 Joubu ha, it's a Wed 21:48 cait hm let me quickly chekc my calendar 21:47 georgewilliams yes 21:47 caboose-kohatmtg yep 21:47 kellym-kohamtg yes 21:47 cait is that ok for everyone? 21:47 Joubu Nov 21:47 Joubu +3w, Now 8th :) 21:47 cait Joubu: can you suggest a date? 21:46 caboose-kohatmtg perfect 21:46 Joubu in 3 weeks 21:45 cait should we meet agian before? 21:45 cait so release is end of nov 21:45 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 21:44 cait cool 21:44 cait #action georgewilliams to report about the documentation meeting and the need for contributors at the next Koha-US meeting 21:44 caboose-kohatmtg :) 21:44 cait excellent! 21:44 georgewilliams And I'll also report on this meeting and the need for contributers at the next Koha-US meeting 21:44 cait it's awfully late here 21:44 cait moving onto setting a date for the next meeting ok? 21:43 cait and if any of you know someone who would be good to contribute something, please ask them 21:43 cait #action cait to update the kanban with latest developments/needs 21:43 cait #info If you ntoice something missing on the manual, a typo, some error, please take a short moment to note on the to-do list! 21:42 Joubu kanban* 21:42 cait the todo is made so it can't be done quickly, no log in or anything 21:42 Joubu cait: maybe you should (just in case...) add a message on the kanba. There was a documation epic with lot of people interesting by contributing to the manual 21:42 georgewilliams That's a good idea - a good starting point 21:42 cait also when you notice a typo or whatever 21:42 georgewilliams That I can probably do 21:42 cait georgewilliams: maybe start small... you are lookign for something in the manual, don't find it, note it on the todo 21:40 georgewilliams I'm being crushed by demands for help from the 51 libraries in our system, so my biggest issue is a complete lack of time 21:40 cait #info Please think about putting your name down for documentation team 18.05 21:40 Joubu (just a number, this year we have ~20 authors per months, last years it was ~30) 21:40 * wizzyrea fires up the cloning machine 21:40 cait maybe another thought 21:40 cait heh 21:40 BobB LOL 21:40 georgewilliams If there were two of me 21:40 cait georgewilliams: what would make it easy for you? 21:40 BobB so keep pounding the mailing list? 21:39 cait all the koha people are super busy, which is good, so we need more of us and get libraries involved 21:39 georgewilliams As a librarian I want to help too but, like BobB says, there are a lot of demands on my time 21:39 cait BobB: we understand, it's just turning into a global problem :) 21:39 wizzyrea ^ 21:39 BobB somehow we really need to get users to own this - librarians 21:38 cait Joubu: not sure I can do with even less... 21:38 BobB but there are so many competing demands on everyone's time 21:38 Joubu people should stop sleeping 21:38 BobB as a company we want to help .... 21:37 wahanui any other ideas are welcome as well 21:37 cait any other ideas? 21:37 cait i think too early for another sprint maybe 21:36 cait actually that fits with the question about 17.11 21:36 cait #topic Getting more people involved 21:36 cait moving on? 21:36 cait sounds good :) 21:36 cait so i think we covered about all of the next steps topics listed now 21:36 * Joubu duplicates himself 21:35 cait search has been fixed 21:35 cait #action Joubu to generate pre-release notes for manual work 21:35 cait #action caboose to look into styling/improving the manual look and feel 21:34 cait #info If people want to send text and screenshots instead of merge requests, cait will turn that into patches 21:34 cait Joubu: willing to try, but can't do it alone, so let's try mailing list next 21:33 cait #info caboose to look into styling/improving the manual look and feel 21:33 caboose-kohatmtg cool, I am on it 21:33 cait haven't had time to review, but might be a starting point 21:32 caboose-kohatmtg sweet 21:32 cait someone left some notes about ways on how to do that on the todo list 21:32 caboose-kohatmtg yeah I want to help with that for sure cait! 21:32 caboose-afk I definitely want to get involved 21:32 cait caboose-afk: don't go... was going to ask you about styling the manual :) 21:31 Joubu Anyone around that is willing to help documenting the new 17.11 features? 21:31 cait Joubu: could you check where we could keep the pre-release notes? and then we send an email to the mailng list to aks people to send merge requests or texts to koha-docs mailing list to include? 21:30 cait add screenshots too if they are sent separately 21:30 cait if that's a barrier 21:30 cait and if peope send me text i can make the patches to include 21:30 cait we could try to get more people involved by having such a list 21:29 cait without having the list I fear that we might not have enough people rightnow 21:29 Joubu - Do we want to have all these ft with enough doc when 17.11 is out? 21:29 cait because you can't see where it should go and it's suppoed to be a summary I think - not instructions how to use 21:28 Joubu - It is not a job for dev 21:28 Joubu - Does we ask dev to make something bigger for the manual? 21:28 cait no 21:28 cait jenkins sounds like a good idea to me 21:28 Joubu - Is it enough to put that in the manual? 21:28 cait ah 21:28 Joubu new ft will be highlighted in the release note, with the "release notes" field 21:28 cait could work 21:28 cait constantly bulid them 21:28 rangi to publish them somewhere 21:28 rangi Joubu: you could use gitlab ci or jenkins 21:27 cait Joubu: hm? 21:27 rangi ah right, misread 21:27 Joubu and highlight what is missing (new) 21:27 cait yeah, but not release notes to see what will be added :) 21:27 Joubu I would like to do something for the release notes, provide them very early and make the contribution/fix easy 21:27 rangi its always that pattern 21:27 rangi https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/ 21:26 wahanui link is both helpful/unhelpful 21:26 cait link? 21:26 rangi they are there now 21:26 cait maybe we could provide 'alpha' release notes for 17.11 to get people started? 21:26 kellym-kohamtg yes cait! 21:26 cait kellym-kohamtg: was going to look at 17.05 release notes 21:26 cait we have a possible backlog to 16.11 or 16.05, not sure yet 21:25 Joubu the ones that are going to be in 17.11 21:25 wahanui new features are almost invariable meant for master 21:25 cait new features? 21:25 Joubu I would like to know what do we do for the new ft 21:25 cait getting more people involved 21:25 Joubu what's next? :) 21:25 Joubu wait 21:25 Joubu yes 21:24 wahanui well, something else is doing that, before you ran my rebuild 21:24 cait something else? 21:24 cait ok 21:24 cait #action Joubu is goingto look into options for manual translation 21:24 rangi thanks Joubu 21:23 Joubu at least estimate the amount of work we need 21:23 rangi cool 21:23 Joubu I really would like to announce that the manual for 17.11 is ready, so I will try to have a look 21:22 rangi if we can use tools others are maintaining, rather than our own scripts its a massive win 21:21 cait is someone volunteering to look into options? 21:21 rangi i really dont want to build any more tools we have to look after 21:21 cait is there any action item we can look? 21:21 cait ok 21:20 cait manual translation coudl be different to gui 21:20 rangi yeah 21:20 cait not having context or knowing what the paragraph before referenced to is making things hard 21:20 Joubu ok, so the plan would be to first make it translatable easily, then reinject the strings that are already translated 21:19 cait i still think translating in context would make up for repeats 21:19 rangi we will see :) 21:19 rangi but i think sphinx-intl will do a much better job 21:18 Joubu ok sounds fun 21:18 rangi lots of strings repeat 21:18 rangi heh no 21:18 Joubu strings should appear only once in the manual, so should not be picked twice 21:18 Joubu why duplicated stuff? 21:17 cait ot as much in the manuals as in the interface i think, but yeah 21:17 Joubu I will try to have a look at that, if nobody else does 21:17 rangi im hoping we can reduce lots of that 21:16 rangi (like we do in our .tt) 21:16 rangi the old way you get lots of duplicated stuff 21:16 cait it's been a lot of work, would be good to save it 21:16 rangi ah yes substitute italian for german 21:15 cait italian maybe too 21:15 cait but there are some 21:15 cait not german 21:15 rangi we can start fresh with the others 21:15 rangi (which is spanish, french, chinese and german?) 21:15 rangi for the ones that are translated yes 21:15 Joubu (sorry, tired...) 21:15 Joubu :s/when/we 21:14 Joubu when will want to pick the strings that are already translated on the old manual I guess? 21:14 cait we haven't added anything there for sphinx yet 21:14 rangi and https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinx-intl 21:14 cait for the old way there is inofrmation on the wiki 21:14 rangi http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/intl.html 21:14 rangi but this looks like the best way for sphinx 21:14 rangi i dont have the docs for the old docxml way, that was done by bernardo 21:13 cait #action kellym to add missing 17.05 features to to-do list 21:13 Joubu the different possibilities, what has been tried already, etc. 21:13 Joubu manual translation 21:13 cait kellym-kohamtg: thx! sysprefs should be done up to 17.05, but everything else we didn't check 21:13 rangi Joubu: about what? 21:13 Joubu Are there notes somewhere already about that? 21:13 rangi its the currently the way we generate it, and regenerate the docs that is the messy bit 21:13 kellym-kohamtg cait I can add to the to do list for 17.05 release including new sys pref and features 21:12 rangi people can use transifex or anything they want with the .po file 21:12 cait would be nice to have th estrings in the order they appear 21:12 rangi yes 21:12 cait i thin one problem with pootle is if hte po files orders alphabetic 21:12 cait hm but still po files then? 21:11 reiveune bye 21:11 rangi we can still use pootle, but there are easier was to generate the .po file 21:11 rangi https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinx-intl 21:11 cait yes, translation is a big TODO 21:10 rangi there are nicer ways to do translation than the way we currently do it for the old manual, id like to get one of those working 21:10 cait rangi, any technical todos? 21:10 cait if someone wants to volunteer to fill up the list it would be nice :) 21:09 cait i think it would be good to take a look at the feature lists of the last releaess and check against the manuals what is missing 21:09 cait we've listed some areas where descriptions are missing, authorised values and notices for examples 21:08 cait #link https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo todo list 21:08 cait #topic Next steps 21:08 cait i'd like to move on to todo if that' sok 21:07 cait sorry :) 21:07 cait #info rangi fixed the search problem! 21:07 rangi thats about all I got done 21:07 rangi i fixed the search 21:07 kellym #info kelly mcelligott bywater 21:07 cait hope i didn't miss someone - every contribution is much appreciated 21:07 cait #info kellym has been updating the authorized values list 21:06 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2017-10-05_Documentation_Sprint_Day Past Documentation Sprint day 21:06 cait #info Documentation Sprint has been quite good, we got some first time contributors, more listed on the wiki 21:06 cait #info jzairo has been working on a patron clubs feature - merged not long ago today 21:05 cait #info Joubu fixed the problem with the screenshots that were not migrated correctly 21:05 cait #info LeeJ has been cleaning up the cronjobs chapter and adding new things to it 21:04 cait #topic What's been done so far 21:04 cait BobB: thx! Irma has sent a merge request - waiting for her feedback on my comment 21:04 BobB no contribution from me yet, cait, hoping to get to it in the next couple of weeks 21:04 cait moving on 21:04 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual Instructions on how to edit hte manual 21:03 cait let me know if I can help :) 21:03 caboose I'm just getting my act together (missed last( but will review instructions :) 21:03 cait but are there any questions about the process? 21:02 cait I don't have new information since the last meeting, instrcutions are available on the wiki 21:02 cait #topic How does it work? 21:02 cait thx all cor coming! 21:02 huginn` Current chairs: cait rangi 21:02 cait #chair rangi 21:02 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst NZ 21:02 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_19_October_2017 today's agenda 21:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 21:01 caboose #info Michael Cabus, ByWater Solutions 21:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 21:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 21:01 cait please introduce yourself using #info :) 21:01 georgewilliams #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 21:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:01 cait #topic introductions 21:00 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_19_october_2017' 21:00 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00 huginn` Meeting started Thu Oct 19 21:00:37 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00 cait #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 19 October 2017 20:58 cait meeting in a moment 20:57 BobB morning 20:24 barton yeah, I'm making that happen. 20:24 wizzyrea ^^^ 20:24 Joubu there is no excuse for using it :) 20:23 Joubu there is also misc/devel/create_superlibrarian.pl 20:22 wizzyrea so you never log in with the db user. 20:22 wizzyrea ffs, that's why we have the onboarder. 20:22 wizzyrea ^ 20:22 Joubu create a user anyway :) 20:22 wizzyrea dunno then, wfm 20:21 barton wizzyrea: nope. I'm using master, fresh install. 20:20 wizzyrea custom JS? 20:19 wizzyrea I see it on master logged in as the db user though 20:19 wizzyrea yeah don't do that. 20:19 wizzyrea haha 20:18 cait yeah well, don't do that heh 20:18 barton hm. I'm logged in as the database user (prolly not the best idea, but it's a fresh install) 20:18 cait and was a separate permission for a long time 20:18 cait hm if you are superlibrarian i think ti should just work 20:18 wizzyrea or something like 20:17 * wizzyrea wonders if the db update didn't update users who aren't superlibrarian to have the permission 20:17 cait i still see the link 20:17 cait do you have the create sql perm? 20:16 barton hey #koha, the 'Create from SQL' link seems to have disappeared from reports/reports-home.pl on master. Is there a different way to get to it that I'm missing? 19:59 LeeJ cait: glad to help :) 19:54 cait thx for the work :) 19:50 LeeJ all good! :) 19:47 cait just a bit slow tonight 19:47 cait hehe i know 19:46 LeeJ :) 19:46 LeeJ cait: by the way..there's a merge request pending 19:44 LeeJ okay :) 19:44 cait that sounds ogod 19:43 LeeJ we have a Catalog section 19:42 cait do we have something like catalouging? 19:42 cait the import webservice one 19:42 LeeJ okay 19:42 cait i think the job might have been thougth to be general 19:41 LeeJ cait: so should I add a new section? Perhaps calling it OCLC? 19:30 cait :) 19:22 eythian kathryn: but if your holiday is still around Wellington, it'll work :) 19:22 eythian ibeardslee: oh nice 19:21 eythian kathryn: hmm, I think I head back around the 7th 19:21 ibeardslee eythian: that's good I understand francois will be about around that time as well 19:20 kathryn I'll be on holiday from Christmas til the 9th or so, but can catch up sometime for sure 19:19 eythian I need to work out the internal details still 19:19 eythian Sweet. I'm sure I'll attend some beer o'clock 19:18 kathryn cool, I'll be around btw Christmas and NYs 19:18 eythian Definitely 19:18 kathryn well that's a sure thang then 19:17 eythian I know this because someone i haven't spoken to since I left knew. 19:17 kathryn ooooOOOOoooooo 19:17 eythian Rumour has it I'm coming back for New Year's. 19:17 kathryn hi eythian! 19:16 eythian Hi kathryn 18:46 tcohen hi 18:45 cait hi tomascohen[m] :) 18:31 LeeJ okay! 18:31 cait brb - washing the dishes :) 18:31 cait might be helpful to somoene 18:30 LeeJ okay :) 18:30 cait with the description from the bug 18:30 cait i think we shoudl include both 18:30 LeeJ should we include it? 18:30 cait that's the other script 18:29 cait ah 18:29 cait a daemon that listens for OCLC Connexion 18:29 cait maybe 18:29 cait i think it was a little part of it 18:29 cait hmm 18:29 LeeJ cait: according to the patch here https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8256 its description is "a cron job for processing import batch queues of type 'webservice' batches can also be processed through the UI" 18:28 cait is that the one for oclc connexion? 18:27 cait i am not sure waht it does 18:27 cait hm 18:20 LeeJ cait: import_webservice_batch.pl has never been in kohadocs...what heading should it go under? Or should a new one be created? 18:18 LeeJ cait: sorry got pulled to help with something :P 18:07 cait hey 18:02 cait LeeJ: 18:01 cait yep 17:42 LeeJ cait: around? 17:35 LeeJ aha! I'm thankful all old bug patches get archived! 17:33 LeeJ does anyone know what the import_webservice_batch.pl do? It doesn't appear to have a perldoc so it's hard to include it in kohadocs 16:28 LeeJ I think I will as soon as I finish this method I'm writing :P 16:23 kidclamp if you want to so that patch.... :-D 16:23 kidclamp oh, hah 16:22 kidclamp what'd i do? 16:22 LeeJ kidclamp++ 16:17 LeeJ hi #koha 16:17 * LeeJ waves 15:52 ammopt online demo is instant with irregular and about 4 seconds with any other periodicity 15:51 ammopt except the online demo is a tad fast, probably cause the database is much lightier 15:51 ammopt also running 16.11.12 15:51 ammopt tested on an online demo, happens the same 15:51 ammopt if irregular -> 1.5 secs 15:51 ammopt if it has periodicity other than irregular -> takes 10 seconds, no matter what type of data 15:50 ammopt has nothing to do with the actual data not respecting the periodicity 15:34 ammopt and for that i need to find an actual "real" subscription born in Koha 15:33 ammopt or if it is defined but not compatible with the actual serials 15:33 ammopt i still need to check if its because the subscriptions have periodicity defined 15:32 Joubu if the data are bad, it's always better to update them :) 15:30 ammopt now i dont know if i should change the code or update all the data to irregular 15:29 ammopt but if there's any other periodicity defined, it lags 15:29 ammopt so those are processed fast 15:29 ammopt the periodicity->{unit} is empty/false for the irregular subscriptions 15:28 ammopt we have some data with "once a year" but the actual data doesnt respect that 15:28 ammopt i think it has to do with periodicity 15:28 ammopt i think i got it, Joubo 15:21 ammopt yes i hope to have a conlusion soon 15:20 Joubu let us know if it's better after the changes 15:18 ammopt thanks a bunch 15:18 ammopt and follow your suggestion 15:18 ammopt i will try to prove if it is indeed this that its causing the lag 15:18 ammopt and it turns out in fact all of the data has 9999 in the field we're using for enddate 15:17 ammopt our team developed a custom script to import biblios + create subscription + import serials 15:17 ammopt I just checked my original data 15:16 Joubu I'd say it is expected for enddate, check if the perf issue is only with the startdate=~^9999 or with others as well 15:12 ammopt the other 10.036 are endate 15:12 ammopt only 1 of those is startdate 15:11 ammopt its enddate 15:11 Joubu to see if it is startdate or enddate 15:11 Joubu select count(*) from subscription where enddate like "9999%"; 15:11 Joubu select count(*) from subscription where startdate like "9999%"; 15:10 ammopt that explains it, i guess 15:10 ammopt i have 15k subscriptions total 15:10 ammopt 10037 15:10 ammopt well 15:09 ammopt ill run that query 15:09 ammopt that must be it actually 15:09 ammopt i see 15:09 ammopt oh 15:08 Joubu if you have date like 9999-12-31, the comparaison/calculation/etc will take ages 15:08 Joubu select count(*) from subscription where startdate like "9999%" or enddate like "9999%"; 15:08 ammopt you mean in the summary of the subscription? 15:07 ammopt im thinking of inverting the if + elseif 15:07 Joubu did you display the startdate and enddate? 15:05 ammopt im afraid i might open holes somewhere else 15:05 ammopt and how should i go about hacking it 15:05 ammopt my question is how important is this function 15:04 ammopt heyo 15:04 Joubu and hi :) 15:04 ammopt 16.11.12 15:04 ammopt namely when the function GetExpirationDate is called 15:04 Joubu what is your Koha version? 15:04 ammopt https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/C4/Serials.pm#L2166 15:04 ammopt located here: 15:04 ammopt i have pinpointed the performance problem to the abouttoexpire function 15:04 ammopt i'm having problems with performance using serials 15:02 hlx hi 15:02 ammopt hello everyone 13:17 * chris_n will need it 13:17 Joubu good luck then :) 13:16 chris_n guess I'll have to dig into it :-) 13:16 chris_n Joubu: the issue was that patrons are forbidden to return books via self-check; all parameters mentioned thus far are set correctly as far as I can tell 13:13 wahanui g/xml/d 13:13 chris_n heya pianohacker 13:05 magnuse Joubu: ah, i had not considered that, thanks for the pointer! 13:00 Joubu biblibre around? Simon? 12:59 Joubu magnuse: it is a URI reserved char, so you need to escape it 12:58 magnuse ah, could be 12:58 magnuse s/pane/tab/ 12:57 magnuse in firefox those options are there. "copy link address" works, but "open in a new pane" does nothing 12:56 Joubu I guess it's the ':' 12:56 magnuse in chromium, when i right click on the link, there are no options related to links, like "open in a new pane" or "copy link address" 12:55 magnuse Joubu: the html looks good, though: <a href="file://P:/HPX/V141.pdf">Klicka här för att gå online</a> 12:54 Joubu magnuse: the code is talking about indicator(1)==7 and subfield $2, see C4::Biblio::GetMarcUrls 12:53 caroline_ At the same time, they told me it only started happening when they switched to IE 12:53 caroline_ Since there is no constraint, could it be mechanical, like the scanner scanned the barcode twice in quick succession and it checked out twice? 12:51 Joubu good news for you then :) Maybe you will want to delete one of the 2 checkins from the old_issues table, to fix the history 12:51 caroline_ I re-checked it out from my end and only one was added to the usesr's file 12:50 caroline_ Both are returned 12:49 magnuse i know it will not work for anyone outside the customers LAN, but it should at least work there 12:49 magnuse anyone got any experience with putting file-scheme links like "file://P:/HPX/V141.pdf" in 856u? 12:47 Joubu Does it fail or both are checked in? 12:47 Joubu what happens if you check one item in? 12:47 caroline_ ok 12:47 Joubu you should fix that issue before upgrading 12:47 caroline_ I will also tell the developpers to add the unique constraint to their version 12:47 Joubu the constraint is added by 3.21.00.048, but the upgrade will fail actually 12:46 caroline_ Ah, good to know... Thanks for your help! :) I will tell them to consider upgrading 12:44 Joubu apparently 3.14 does not have the unique constraint... 12:43 caroline_ The select count(*) from issues gives me 4, itemnumbers 159013, 159013, 154522, 154522 12:39 Joubu 3.14.07 has been released in may 2014... 12:39 Joubu caroline_: you should at least upgrade to the last 3.14.x version, which is 3.14.17 12:38 Joubu this last query should return 0 12:38 Joubu then select count(*) from old_issues where returndate is null and borrowernumber=XXX; 12:38 Joubu it will return the number of items that are really checked out 12:37 Joubu if you have access to the mysql cli, you can try: select count(*) from issues where borrowernumber=XXX; 12:37 caroline_ 3.14.07 from my info, but it might not be up to date 12:36 Joubu 3.14.17 at least? 12:36 Joubu caroline_: no idea, 3.14 is very old now 12:35 caroline_ I have no idea. Maybe they didn't want to upgrade just yet 12:35 caroline_ *known 12:35 caroline_ Is that a know issue in 3.14? 12:35 Joubu Why are you using that version? Do you have a customized version? 12:34 Joubu ha, you will have to upgrade 12:34 marcelr oops 12:33 caroline_ sorry 3.14 12:33 Joubu There is one bug that is not resolved because we do not know how it happens: items are checked out but the "old_issues.returndate" is not set when checking in 12:33 caroline_ 16.05 12:33 Joubu caroline_: which version of Koha are you using? 12:32 Joubu nope 12:32 caroline_ The librarian said they're using Internet Explorer. COuld that be the problem? 12:32 marcelr reset_plack will not resolve it; it is obsolete indeed, these paths were removed 12:31 caroline_ It is happening at one site. The same item is check out twice to the same user. Instead of 2 checkouts, it shows 4 checkouts 12:29 Joubu there is a unique constraint on issues.itemnumber, that means you cannot have the same item checked out twice at the same time 12:28 Joubu caroline_: double check outs? it should not be possible 12:28 Joubu it does few sed, but I think it is obsolete 12:28 Joubu marcelr: reset_plack.pl from misc4dev 12:27 marcelr to me this is a critical one ;) 12:27 marcelr too bad; a small difference might have given a clue 12:26 Joubu I am using exactly the same one, yes 12:26 caroline_ Hi guys. I have a question. What could cause double check outs in Koha? 12:25 marcelr depends on the details.. 12:25 marcelr is it exactly the same one? 12:25 Joubu the one in debian/templates 12:25 Joubu marcelr: it's in master 12:21 tcohen :/ 12:21 tcohen wait a seconf, I busted my virtualbox setup 12:14 marcelr or is it identical to master ? 12:14 marcelr can you paste the content of your current kohadevbox plack.psgi ? 12:14 marcelr hola tcohen 12:08 cait bye, bbl 11:56 Joubu It makes more sense to me to check the existence of the issue instead of the config of the anonymous patron 11:56 marcelr add a follow-up, and it is ready for qa 11:56 Joubu I think we should create the item in the tests 11:55 Joubu it is quite simple, the call is done without a valid itemnumber, so now it does not die anymore 11:55 marcelr i was 11:55 Joubu marcelr: are you on it? 11:54 Joubu hi Owen! 11:54 Joubu marcelr: nope 11:54 oleonard Hi #koha 11:18 marcelr Joubu: related to 19487, does Circulation/MarkIssueReturned.t still pass with you ? 11:13 marcelr thx 11:13 kidclamp done 11:13 marcelr go ahead and change it ! 11:13 wahanui the former is much more complicated. 11:13 kidclamp the former 11:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out 11:11 marcelr kidclamp: did you forget to set signed off status on bug 19487 or did you request an extra one ? 11:09 Joubu it could be marked as major, if we did not have 10 majors 11:09 marcelr yeah the other one 11:09 Joubu "internal server error" on stable releases, it is critical for me 11:09 marcelr Joubu: things are marked critical quite easily of course 11:01 Joubu We have 2 critical bugs, with patches, waiting for a bit of love. They affects stable releases 10:43 kidclamp hi Joubu 10:42 marcelr o/ 10:41 Joubu hi 10:39 kidclamp thanks 10:39 marcelr wait vs unfilled ;) 10:39 kidclamp heh 10:38 marcelr kidclamp: will finish 16187 tomorrow; it 'waited' long enough.. 10:29 * cait waves 09:59 marcelr o/ 09:58 * kidclamp waves 09:39 wahanui bidet, eythian 09:39 eythian hi 08:45 marcelr hi #koha 08:32 cait good mornign magnuse :) 08:26 magnuse guten morgen cait 08:04 cait good morning #koha 07:56 magnuse benjamin: sure 07:56 benjamin hei magnuse, talk to you in 1hour (meeting) about ILL? 07:54 magnuse heia benjamin 07:39 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 07:39 gaetan_B hello 07:04 fridolin hi there 07:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19492 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Field 'lowestPriority' doesn't have a default value (MariaDB) 07:02 magnuse noone else running into bug 19492? 06:42 alex_a bonjour 06:32 reiveune hello 06:27 * magnuse waves 00:56 mtj thanks for the signoffs mtompset++ :0) 00:53 mtj i plan to create a proper KC bug/patch for it 'real soon'... but good to get some eyeballs on it early, in irc 00:50 wizzyrea yes good 00:50 mtj ..it basically uses systemd to run the magical SQL on mysql startup, for every koha instance 00:50 wizzyrea ohhhh that is excellent :) 00:49 mtj http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=misc/.git;a=tree;f=koha-mysql-init 00:49 mtj kia ora wiz... naw.. its the same as suggested above 00:48 wizzyrea oh is it different from the existing one? 00:48 mtj https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix 00:47 mtj hiya #koha, fyi: i seem to have a working startup script, for the 'duped id' problem..