Time Nick Message 06:36 reiveune hello 06:38 marcelr hi #koha 06:51 alex_a bonjour 06:52 marcelr hi alex_a 06:52 alex_a hi marcelr 06:56 pianohacker hi, all :) headed to bed 06:56 marcelr see you later pianohacker 07:23 huginn` GERMS!!!! 07:23 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 07:24 cait good morning #koha 07:24 cait have a nice Documentation Sprint Day! 07:24 marcelr hi cait 07:25 cait hi marcelr 08:51 marcelr bug 19415 needs your signoff (trivial test) 08:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19415 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , FindDuplicateAuthority is searching on biblioserver since 16.05 11:12 BobB bug 19414 is from a new developer and is also a simple one needing a sign-off 11:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19414 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dilan, Needs Signoff , Move the location of the 'Import this batch into the catalog' button 11:52 * cait waves to BobB 12:26 * LeeJ waves 12:26 LeeJ hi #koha 12:26 marcelr hi LeeJ 12:28 LeeJ hiya marcelr 12:28 LeeJ cait: around? 12:37 cait yes here now 12:37 cait LeeJ: 12:38 * LeeJ waves to cait 12:38 LeeJ cait: anything we're trying to focus on finishing docs for first? 12:54 kidclamp @later tell LibraryClaire *quack* 12:54 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 12:55 marcelr hi kidclamp 12:55 marcelr that was a good message 12:55 kidclamp heh 12:56 * LeeJ waves to kidclamp 12:56 kidclamp hi LeeJ 13:01 tcohen hi 13:01 marcelr hola tcohen 13:03 tcohen hi marcelr, welcome back 13:04 LeeJ hi tcohen 13:04 tcohen hey 13:23 cait LeeJ: nothing planned yes (sorry got called away) - I have listed notices missing from the docs, maybe that culd be something to fix next 13:24 * cait waves to kellym 13:24 LeeJ cait: alright...I'll work on that this morning :) 13:24 kellym hi cait 13:24 cait LeeJ: also authorised value smissing - kellym just submitted one :) 13:25 LeeJ cait: sheesh :P 13:25 kellym i did two cait but one I might have undid! 13:26 cait i am seeing TERM - merging it in now 13:26 kellym okay I will do suggest_format again. sorry about that 13:26 cait maybe it can be rescued 13:27 kellym After I saved, I hit close merge request 13:27 cait i think you might have accidetally closed it 13:27 cait yeah that means 'cancel' 13:27 kellym yes 13:27 kellym Okay! note to self 13:27 cait i am reopening it, let's see if this works :) 13:28 cait kellym: are we sure they must match? just wondering, I didn't know that :) 13:28 cait i thought you could put anything in there now and itemtype was just the migrated value 13:28 kellym I believe so ! but maybe not… 13:29 cait hm maybe because of the pull downs in acq? 13:29 kellym that is just how it worked when I tried it- I can test again. 13:30 cait looking for the bug, one sec 13:31 cait This patch defines a new authorized called SUGGEST_FORMAT for populating a list of patron-understandable formats for expressing how they would prefer suggested items to be purchased. For database upgrades, it populates it based on the value returned by the GetSupportList() routine. 13:31 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9468 13:31 huginn` 04Bug 9468: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Add ability to hide itemtypes from purchase suggestions forms 13:31 cait I think in theory you can use whatever, but haven't tested 13:32 cait do you want to verify? or should I merge and we put a note on the framapad to take another look? 13:33 kellym I will verify first - I can just put what suggest format is for and not include the matching part until I am sure :) 13:33 cait cool, thx! 13:35 cait I put a comment on the merge request for rangi 13:36 cait the first one is still being merged - not sure why it takes so long, keepign an eye on it 13:41 LeeJ I'll be back after class 13:42 LeeJ cait: random thought...perhaps in the future we should investigate some sort of "lock" for parts being worked on so time doesn't get wasted with more than one person working on something? Just a thought! :) 13:42 LeeJ ttyl everyone 13:43 cait now he was too fast 13:44 cait @later tell LeeJ idea was to note/claim on the todo list, but doesn't quite work yet 13:44 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 13:44 cait kellym: don't worry if you get messages , just trying to get the first one in 13:45 kellym ok cait 13:45 Joubu marcelr: I think the change in the test makes sense (19343) 13:45 kellym you are right- they don’t have to match ! 13:45 cait hm will email rangi, this one is stubborn, but your text looks perfectly fine, i think it's something on gitlab 13:45 marcelr i did not see any change Joubu 13:46 marcelr but you can unobsolete them 13:46 Joubu I am trying again 13:46 marcelr and add my signoff line haha 13:46 * cait is very happy about the contributions to sprint day :D 13:47 Joubu marcelr: yes, at least on 17.05 the test is failing without your patch. 13:47 marcelr hmm i tested 16.11 13:48 marcelr with my patch and with/without the patch that changed the test 13:49 Joubu nope, fail for me on 16.11 too 13:50 marcelr i did not test without the first patch 13:50 cait kellym: all good now with TERM - merged in :) 13:50 kellym great cait 13:52 fridolin wahanui: watsup ? 13:52 wahanui fridolin: wish i knew 13:52 cait kellym++ 13:53 Joubu @later tell fridolin do not forget 19343 for 17.05 13:53 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:53 fridolin ah Bug 19343 13:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19343 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Private lists displayed in search results list 13:53 Joubu oops, you are around :) 13:54 cait Joubu: will push tonight - saw your later 14:13 cait kellym: can i close SUGGEST_FORMAT and you do another? 14:14 kellym I did do it again, but should I do again again 14:14 cait hah, let me check :) 14:15 cait it's good, merged! 14:15 cait well or waiting for it, it seems gitlab is doing some maintenance, so things are a bit slow 14:24 kellym great cait! 14:27 kellym cait I did a ITEMTYPECAT authorized value also, but I got a messages saying something went wrong. Can you check? 14:28 cait hm strange 14:28 cait checking 14:28 cait I think it should be ok now - i am seeing the change int he commits alright 14:28 cait https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/commits/master 14:29 cait but the SUGGEST_FORMAT is a ibt stubborn 14:29 cait i really think it's to do with gitlab 14:29 cait i will try again a bit later 14:29 cait ah, merge conflicts on that one 14:29 cait will check from home, i can fix it there from my laptop 14:32 kellym okay no worries- i think I will copy what I am editing into manual into a document just in case and also to check spelling! 14:34 cait sounds good, it#s not getting lost, but never hurts 15:13 reiveune bye 16:20 * LeeJ waves 16:20 LeeJ cait: ahh right :) 16:21 LeeJ @later tell jzairo did you have any ideas about the Rancor chapter? I haven't been able to find anything missing really 16:21 huginn` LeeJ: The operation succeeded. 16:35 * cait waves 16:40 tcohen hi 16:41 cait tcohen: want to make your first manual contribution? :) 16:42 tcohen maybe? 16:42 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error 16:42 cait that's a good answer :) 16:42 cait editing the manual? 16:42 wahanui well, editing the manual is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 16:43 LeeJ cait: since check-url-quick.pl indicates in its perldoc that it replaces check-url.pl should I remove check-url.pl completely? 16:43 cait is check_url still in the codebase? 16:43 LeeJ cait: from what I can tell yes. 16:43 cait hm then I tihnk i'd only add a note for now 16:43 LeeJ cait: that's why I was confused. 16:43 LeeJ okay 16:44 cait do we have a nice manual task for tcohen? 16:44 LeeJ hmm..let's see 16:45 tcohen If someone does QA on the configurable holdings columns in OPAC patches, I can add the eentry :_d 16:46 LeeJ content-wise...it looks like we need some authorised values documented, several notices, the cataloging plugins, I'm working on cronjobs right now.. 16:46 cait hehe 16:46 cait i am sure there is stuff pushed by now with new prefs too 16:46 * LeeJ groans 16:46 LeeJ lol 16:46 cait heh 16:46 cait you are a hero 16:47 * LeeJ chugs down another Pepsi 16:47 cait tcohen: maybe document a nice authorised value? 16:47 cait manual todo? 16:47 cait todo? 16:47 wahanui i think todo is to be done soon? 16:47 cait https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo here 16:47 cait it has a list and a link 16:48 LeeJ tcohen: FYI..I just looked and Bug 18071 is a cron that hasn't been QA'd yet and we have it on the manual list :) 16:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18071 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Add new script update_authorities.pl 16:48 LeeJ just a heads up 16:49 LeeJ cait: how detailed are we getting with the cronjob documentation? the old check-url.pl docs basically copies all the info from the script itself.. 16:50 cait hm, I don't feel like we should do that 16:50 LeeJ I agree 16:50 cait i was thinking about removing some even, what's your feeling? 16:50 cait i tihnk a description what it does and what it's for and then referring to the help of the cronjob itself? 16:51 LeeJ cait: the current check-url.pl documentation is 71 lines long 16:51 cait link? 16:51 wahanui rumour has it link is both helpful/unhelpful 16:51 LeeJ O.O 16:52 LeeJ cait: https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/edit/master/en/source/16_cron_jobs.rst 16:52 LeeJ though that's my current edit link :3 16:53 LeeJ cait: I think I'm going to just merge request just the crontab.example edit..then I'm going through and "cutting the fat" from what's already there before we add more. I think the formatting for what's there should be corrected before new content goes in 16:54 cait sounds great 16:54 cait i think we need to cut back to get it easier to maintain for now 17:13 LeeJ cait++ 17:13 cait will make dinner, br 17:13 cait b 17:16 LeeJ cait: okay..I just submitted that merge request :) once that gets pushed I'll work on trimming 17:17 cait will push now 17:17 cait sec 17:17 cait just heard the email coming in :) 17:18 cait hm maybe we should note later on that the crontab example is mostly for non-package instllations 17:19 cait merged! 17:19 cait nwo dinner :) 17:20 LeeJ yay! 17:20 LeeJ danke :) 17:21 cait gern geschehen :) 17:47 LeeJ @later tell cait we may not be able to just trim the fat across the board. For example, build_holds_queue's documentation is more detailed. The actual script has zero perldoc information other than a script name, description, and FIXME entries 17:47 huginn` LeeJ: The operation succeeded. 17:50 cait LeeJ: interesting! 17:50 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 17:50 cait so i think just kill the perldoc? 17:50 LeeJ I honestly don't know.. 17:50 cait hm sec 17:50 LeeJ there's so much fluctuation from script doc to script doc it's hard to decide what to do 17:51 cait taking a look 17:51 LeeJ okay..because I'm at a loss haha 17:51 cait i tihnk i would remove the perl documentation 17:51 LeeJ so remove it from kohadocs? 17:52 cait yeah 17:53 cait it's probably outdated anyway 17:53 LeeJ okay 17:54 cait too many levels of headings there 17:54 LeeJ AGREED 17:57 LeeJ cait: I think to keep it simple I'm going to isolate script changes to individual commits..one commit per script change (for editing the existing ones at least) 18:00 cait hm ok 18:00 cait let me know and i will merge as you go 18:00 cait to keep conflicts away 18:02 LeeJ cait: holds queue merge sent 18:02 cait on i 18:02 cait t 18:02 LeeJ cait: get your button-clicking finger ready! You'll be getting a steady stream for at least an hour :) 18:03 cait done 18:03 cait :) 18:05 LeeJ cait: long overdue merge sent 18:06 * LeeJ flexes kohadocs muscles 18:06 cait done 18:06 cait hehe 18:09 LeeJ cait: update_totalissues.pl has to be trimmed...should I leave the credits in as it was a sponsored add? Or keep things uniform? 18:10 cait a sponsored add? 18:10 cait looking 18:10 LeeJ thanks! 18:10 cait ah i tihnk that's just from the perldoc 18:10 cait ok to remove, still in the source code 18:11 LeeJ okay! 18:11 cait we should maybe add a note somewhere to reference the syspref here 18:11 cait there is one that determines if you do that immediatley or with the cronjob 18:12 LeeJ cait: hm? 18:13 cait UpdateTotalIssuesOnCirc 18:13 cait do|do ont update a bibliographic record's total issues count whenever an item is issued (WARNING! This increases server load significantly; if performance is a concern, use the update_totalissues.pl cron job to update the total issues count). 18:13 cait not mentioned in the perl doc even :( 18:13 LeeJ cait: harumph :( 18:14 LeeJ cait: how/where do you want me to word it? 18:14 cait hm let#s see 18:15 cait This cron job should be enabled if you have set [pref name] to not update the total issues cound immediately after checkout. ? 18:15 cait and linke hte pref name to the description? 18:15 cait hm and also maybe the warning? 18:16 cait Warning: updating immediately increases server load significantly... 18:18 cait brb - dessert :) 18:19 LeeJ I'm leaving the existing warning there but I'll add that warning and a note about the SysPref (something like -- **Note** this cronjob can be used if there is a performance concern. Otherwise, use the UpdateTotalIssuesOnCirc System Preference) 18:23 LeeJ cait: I sent a merge request with the edits..let me know what you think :) 18:25 cait the updating immediately seems a bit out of context 18:26 cait you only updte immediately iwth the pref turned on - and then you don't need the job 18:27 cait it's an either or thing I think 18:28 cait hope i am not too picky 18:31 cait not sure if i am making sense 18:40 cait scared away? 18:43 LeeJ cait: back now..was stretching my legs 18:44 LeeJ well I can correct that in my next merge request 18:44 cait heh merging 18:49 LeeJ cait: hmm should I just delete that immediately warning and just add to the note to see the syspref for more info? O.o 18:50 cait hm sounds good 18:51 LeeJ okay! 18:52 LeeJ cait: FYI...I'm also making a master list of ref links that need to be fixed..they actually say :ref: in front of the actual link and they appear to be broken formatting 18:52 cait oh? 18:53 cait i thought we had fixed them by ow 18:53 cait maybe can you send me some examples? 18:53 LeeJ cait: as did I 18:53 cait Joubu might be able to script something 18:53 LeeJ cait: https://gyazo.com/c0135bd700fee752bfcc56c028b2d2ec 18:54 LeeJ I've noticed it in at least the administration file (because I've only really edited those 2 files) 18:56 LeeJ cait: after actually editing that line, it appears the :ref: is actually hard-coded into the source 18:56 LeeJ I'll do a merge now to fix the cronjob file of all of them 18:59 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #278: ABORTED in 8 min 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/278/ 19:00 LeeJ cait: maybe not :P 19:01 LeeJ cait: deleting :ref: in the file appears to break the links completely :( 19:04 cait i tihnk they might be intentional 19:05 cait hm link seems to work for me 19:05 cait looking good too: https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/16_cron_jobs.html?highlight=cron 19:05 cait where are you checking them? 19:05 LeeJ cait: from gitlab web 19:05 LeeJ if it works I won't worry about it then! 19:05 cait maybe some syntax it doesn#t understand 19:10 LeeJ cait: another merge request sent 19:11 cait on it 19:11 LeeJ :D 19:12 cait done! 19:16 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #279: ABORTED in 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/279/ 19:24 LeeJ cait: another incoming! 19:24 cait k! 19:26 cait merged! 19:27 LeeJ :D 19:29 LeeJ cait: I'm thinking I only have enough energy today to do the trimming..can work on adds tomorrow 19:29 cait don't worry 19:29 cait we stlil got time ) 19:30 cait and happy about all the commits - not too bad for our first sprint 19:30 LeeJ cait: there is NEVER enough time :P 19:30 LeeJ kellym++ 19:31 LeeJ cait: on the bright side, the cronjobs section is starting to look fantastic :) 19:32 cait :) 19:32 pianohacker hi! 19:33 * LeeJ waves to pianohacker 19:33 cait hey pianohacker :) 19:33 pianohacker hi all 19:33 cait want to work on themanual too? 19:33 pianohacker it would be at the expense of the circ rules editor, unfortunately 19:33 pianohacker and that's not overReacting, unfortunately... 19:34 LeeJ pianohacker: I see what you did there with capitalization :) 19:34 pianohacker *finger pistols* 19:34 pianohacker *pow pow pow* 19:34 LeeJ :D 19:34 LeeJ one of the many reasons I love the Koha community..more people that share my sense of humor :D 19:35 cait heh true 19:39 pianohacker I distinctly remember going to KohaCon '09 back when I was way younger and more awkward, yet finding people I could make laugh 19:39 cait :) 19:40 cait you know we love you pianohacker 19:40 pianohacker <3 19:42 Joubu ⤠⤠⤠19:42 pianohacker hi Joubu :) 19:42 Joubu hi pianohacker :) 19:46 cait Joubu too of course and LeeJ :) 19:46 LeeJ :D 19:46 LeeJ I love you all :D 19:47 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #280: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/280/ 19:47 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19122: (bug 18098 follow-up) Fix IncludeSeeFromInSearches behaviour 19:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19122 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , IncludeSeeFromInSearches is broken 19:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Add an index with the count of not onloan items 19:49 LeeJ Joubu I'm removing the Perl documentation portion in kohadocs from automatic_item_modification_by_age.pl is there any particular description you want me to replace it with besides "updates items based on the list of rules set forth in the Automatic item modifications by age tool"? 19:51 Joubu hum? https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/03_tools.html#automatic-item-modifications-by-age ? 19:52 wizzycray hi 19:52 wizzycray hi cait, do you have a link to a record with kanji? 19:52 wizzycray I don't have any of those 19:53 LeeJ Joubu: sorry! I should have clarified I'm working on the cronjob page 19:53 LeeJ https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/16_cron_jobs.html#automatic-item-update 19:53 cait wizzy: was just an example, anything outside latin1 would be good to test with 19:53 cait usually i jsut catlaog something picked from wikipedia 19:53 cait like looking for 'japan' usually has the signs to copy 19:53 wizzycray ahh 19:53 wizzycray right o 19:54 Joubu LeeJ: and why do you want to remove it? 19:54 Joubu other cronjobs have that part too 19:55 LeeJ Joubu: because I've been working with cait to remove the part labeled "Perl documentation" from the cronjobs that have it to keep consistency..I guess cait just didn't rebuild the current version because I updated several so far :) 19:57 cait can't do that - only rangi can 19:57 cait but he was been working on something to automate 19:57 Joubu makes sense to me to have it there 19:57 cait i think too hard to keep current 19:57 pianohacker wizzycray: there's a couple nasty records on bug 11559 19:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, CLOSED FIXED, Professional cataloger's interface 19:57 cait another doubled up doucmentaiton to maintain 19:58 cait LeeJ: linking ot the chapter would be nice 19:58 * cait was talking about removing the perldoc 19:58 LeeJ cait: ooh! good idea! 19:58 LeeJ I'll make note of that for tomorrow 19:59 Joubu "just" need to script something to keep them up-to-date (?) 19:59 cait heh 19:59 cait later? 19:59 wahanui alligator 19:59 cait we could also link to the script maybe 20:00 cait instead of duplicateing 20:00 cait duplicating 20:00 Joubu yes good idea, we could link to the git repo (using HEAD) 20:00 cait the file is not nicely structured at the moment, maybe clean-up first 20:00 cait hm HEAD of the branch then? 20:01 Joubu using HEAD is a very bad idea indeed :) 20:01 Joubu I am always focusing on master only... 20:02 cait you are RM... it's your job :) 20:03 LeeJ I like that idea...once everything's cleaned up of course :) 20:04 wizzycray pianohacker++ 20:06 cait i think the copy&paste docs are not good - like manual and help files 20:06 cait need to find smarter ways 20:07 LeeJ yes! 20:07 LeeJ if only we were part of a community thinktank ;D 20:07 cait :) 20:08 Joubu @later tell tcohen could you take a look at the Selenium tests Alex wrote please? Start with 19243 20:08 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 20:22 cait hm someon broke the reports page again using hte graphical editor on the wiki :( 20:22 cait fixing 20:22 cait undoing hte change 20:22 LeeJ nooooo D: 20:23 LeeJ cait: I sent my last merge of the day...I'm bushed! 20:23 cait thx a lot! 20:29 LeeJ sure! 20:30 cait was that the rest? 20:30 LeeJ cait: no..there's still a handful left I'll do tomorrow morning after my meeting 20:31 LeeJ maybe later tonight if I'm feeling extra ambitious :) 20:33 cait enjoy your evening :) 20:33 cait Joubu - the missing oai patch doesn't apply 20:33 LeeJ cait: you too! 20:34 Joubu cait: ? 20:37 cait Joubu: the one you asked me to check - probably that's how i missed pushing it 20:37 cait bug 18704 20:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18704 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , File types limit in tools/export.pl is causing issues with csv files generated by MS/Excel 20:37 cait bug 18794 20:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18794 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , OAI/Server.t fails on slow servers 20:43 espen_ hello thre 20:43 Joubu cait: I submit a patch, but I am not able to explode my DB currently 20:44 Joubu s/am not able to/cannot 20:47 pianohacker Is there anyone familiar with the machinations of the API / knows how to turn on debugging flags? I'm getting an empty, slient 404 when requesting a route I made (instead of the raptor not found), and I can't figure out why :( 20:47 pianohacker even worse, this route used to work; I have all of the paths and definitions set up 20:57 cait explode? 20:57 cait pianohacker: I'd ask tcohen 21:01 cait Joubu: read your comment, of course will run tests 21:06 cait LeeJ++ 21:22 espen_ slightly tangental question but suggestions welcome: I have a legacy DVD lending library I want to import into koha rather urgently. The lending library has structured data but nothing close to MARC records. I do have ASINs in this, but have discovered that the ASIN2MARC tool no longer works. Any suggestions for a quick way to do this? 21:24 espen_ PS! I've tried Z39.50 batch lookups in MarcEdit against some local catalogues, but get too many duplicate results back! 21:24 cait sorry, don't have another idea then :( 22:59 pablo Hi all 23:00 pablo I'm stuck trying to install Koha on Ubuntu 16.04, mariadb want to remove mysql-cient but koha-common depends on it... 23:01 pablo I saw bug 13359, which seems was applied long ago 23:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED FIXED, provide virtual-mysql-server Depends On to facilitate alternate mysql implementations 23:05 wizzyrea i'd sort out your mysql first 23:06 wizzyrea i.e. don't try to install koha until after you've got your mysql/mariadb stuff sorted first. 23:09 pablo I'll purge koha-common and try to install mariadb, but koha-common still depends on mysql-client... 23:09 wizzyrea mariadb will install something like it 23:09 wizzyrea iirc 23:09 pablo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages is wrong? 23:11 wizzyrea I'm wondering why they specify just mariadb-server 23:12 wizzyrea and not mariadb-common 23:12 wizzyrea because that will install the client for mariadb as well. 23:13 wizzyrea (I think. I don't know really it's always worked for me.) 23:15 pablo No idea. What I can say is that mariadb-server remove mysql-client, and apt-cache depends koha-common | grep mysql show koha need it 23:15 wizzyrea it needs *a* mysql client 23:15 wizzyrea not *the* mysql client 23:15 wizzyrea mariadb should install one 23:15 pablo a package with that name 23:16 pablo right now autoremoving all koha-common dependencies, I'll try next to install mariadb-server and only after that koha-common... Sounds strange but will try it anyway :) 23:17 wizzyrea if your server is empty, it won't hurt anything 23:23 pablo Meanwhile: I can't remember some weeks ago I could bypass this issue and install koha and mariadb, but couldn't get to the end of the rainbow due to this error on web installer: 23:23 pablo DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Duplicate entry '3-2' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchField.pm line 38 23:24 wizzyrea was the database you were trying to install into empty? 23:24 pablo maybe I press the submit button more than once... If this may be the case I would file a bug 23:24 pablo yes, it was a fresh install following the wiki on Ubuntu 16.04 23:24 wizzyrea that would possibly do it 23:28 pablo koha_on_debian article don't even suggest to try mysql-server way... which seems wise: I tried on Ubuntu (setting sql-mode) also without luck 23:28 wizzyrea the debian one is considered the canonical one 23:28 wizzyrea and it does say to use mariadb. 23:29 wizzyrea but it doesn't go into as much detail. 23:29 * wizzyrea is just glad people aren't following the instructions on random weblogs anymore 23:29 wizzyrea also those instructions are a wiki, so if you find a problem with them, you can edit them. 23:29 pablo sure, I fix a lot of things on Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 23:32 pablo btw, Koha_on_Debian offer instal either mariadb or mysql server, in both cases koha-common before 23:51 pablo yes, I was wrong, I didn't see the pipe flag on apt-cache depends output: 23:51 pablo |Depends: mysql-client 23:51 pablo Depends: <virtual-mysql-client> 23:51 pablo mariadb-client-10.0 23:51 pablo mysql-client-5.7