Time Nick Message 06:02 * magnuse waves 06:21 alex_a bonjour 06:22 reiveune hello 06:22 wahanui hey, reiveune 07:02 fridolin hi there 07:02 wahanui que tal, fridolin 07:02 fridolin yo va bien 07:04 gaetan_B hello 07:04 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 07:13 * magnuse waves again 07:21 nlegrand hoo haa koha 08:01 magnuse hiya nlegrand 08:43 nlegrand o/ magnuse :) 08:46 magnuse \o/ 10:11 huginn` GERMS!!!! 10:11 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 11:41 magnuse bug 19260 must be annoying more than two libraries (running 17.05.x)? 11:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Reservations / holds marked as problems being seen as expired ones and deleted wrongly. 13:07 oleonard I go looking for info on the future of the jsprintsetup Firefox addon and who should I find? Our very own josef_moravec! https://github.com/edabg/jsprintsetup/issues/39 13:08 oleonard josef_moravec++ 13:08 kellym @later tell talljoy so excited to see! and did you download the app? 13:08 huginn` kellym: The operation succeeded. 13:08 oleonard (not great news for the jsprintsetup addon though) 13:12 tcohen josef_moravec++ 13:21 oleonard I have 22 Firefox addons installed in the profile I use for development, and all but 7 are marked for impending doom. 13:27 oleonard Strangely, the offline circ addon doesn't say "legacy" 15:00 reiveune bye 15:24 Abby Get search result from library by default, Thanks 15:28 Abby Get search result from library by default, Thanks 15:39 oleonard Abby are you asking, "Is it possible to configure the Koha OPAC to return results from one selected library by default?" 15:49 Joubu @later tell alexbuckley_ Hi Alex! Could you ping me when you are around? (selenium tests) 15:49 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:56 Abby Is it possible to configure the Koha OPAC to return results from one selected library by default?",yes 15:59 Joubu Do you want to display the results from the library of the logged-in user first? (pref SearchMyLibraryFirst) 16:03 Abby yes 16:05 Joubu @later tell alex_a could you take a look at bug 19260 please? (confirm you are ok with the change) 16:05 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:11 Joubu @later tell Abby you are welcome 16:11 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:42 tcohen Joubu: https://snag.gy/rA4fiQ.jpg 16:43 Joubu docker_team++ :) 16:43 tcohen yeah 16:43 tcohen koha/koha-testing? 16:45 Joubu maybe, or koha/testing? 16:46 Joubu koha-testing, yes 16:54 ashimema @later tell cait thanks for the thoughts :) 16:54 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 16:55 ashimema grr.. I got pulled away before commenting on your bugs tcohen.. 16:55 * ashimema quickly opens them again.. as far as I got through them they looked very sane and sensible to me :) 17:05 Joubu Is t/Calendar.t failing for you? 17:07 Joubu ha, the cache... 17:37 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #264: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/264/ 18:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19385: Fix random t/Calendar.t failure - clear the cache before <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae86b7ca9ea60bba47d3a999ff13d6140cdc5e1c> 19:14 jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 19:14 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:14 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #265: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/265/ 19:14 jenkins Jonathan Druart: Bug 19385: Fix random t/Calendar.t failure - clear the cache before 19:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t/Calendar.t is failing randomly 19:51 Joubu kidclamp++ <3 19:59 pianohacker oh, I never said hi 19:59 pianohacker hi all! 20:00 JesseDhammu Hi 20:00 wahanui salut, JesseDhammu 20:00 pianohacker hi JesseDhammu. 20:00 JesseDhammu Hi everyone 20:09 juanjose Hello there 20:09 juanjose I need help!! 20:09 Guest5601 i really really need help 20:11 pianohacker Guest5601: we may be able to help, what's your question? 20:12 JesseDhammu Guest5601: don't ask to ask, just ask 20:12 Guest5601 i have a MySQL db and i need to translate it so i can use iit in koha 20:13 pianohacker Guest5601: what is the db from? (which ILS?) 20:14 JesseDhammu that's nice, KOha itself uses MySQL 20:14 JesseDhammu so there wont be any problem 20:15 Guest5601 I So i can import it directly to koha? 20:16 pianohacker Guest5601: unless the layout of the database is identical, not likely :/ but that will make it easier 20:16 Guest5601 And if i can, how do i do it...my boss asked me to do it but im not familiar with neither mysql nor koha 20:16 pianohacker Guest5601: what software were you using before that created this db? 20:17 Guest5601 phpmyadmin 20:17 wahanui phpmyadmin is not part of Koha 20:17 pianohacker Guest5601: so, you were directly entering data about books into mysql using phpmyadmin? 20:17 pianohacker (also, ignore wahanui, it's a bot) 20:18 Guest5601 Yeah 20:19 JesseDhammu what were the fields you entered.? and how many records ? 20:19 pianohacker okay; your first step is converting that data into MARC (which is what Koha uses to represent information about books) 20:20 Guest5601 fields? records? 20:20 Guest5601 i didnt make the db 20:20 Guest5601 they gave me access to phpmyadmin 20:20 Guest5601 and just told me to use koha now 20:20 JesseDhammu okey, but your can check it 20:20 Guest5601 Yeah ive been reading about the MARC conversion 20:21 pianohacker Guest5601: MARCEdit is probably your easiest bet 20:21 JesseDhammu lets organize things first, check what was the data you have in the existing DB 20:21 Guest5601 ok i have 7 tables 20:22 JesseDhammu export that data in CSV format. or excel. then convert that excel file into MARC using marc edit tools and assign appropriate tags to the data 20:22 JesseDhammu and than the MAEC formatted file can be easily imported into koha 20:22 JesseDhammu Simple 20:23 Guest5601 ok 20:23 Guest5601 ive been trying 20:23 Guest5601 to export 20:23 Guest5601 but it isnt working...when i select the format and prss go 20:23 Guest5601 it just shows a blank page 20:23 Guest5601 and theres nothing in downloads 20:24 pianohacker Guest5601: it kind of sounds like PHPMyAdmin is giving you problems before you get out of the starting gate :/ 20:24 JesseDhammu go to backup and restor tab in phpmyadmin 20:24 Guest5601 I think that too, caus i backed up another db on another server 20:25 Guest5601 and it worked just fine 20:25 JesseDhammu ok and what about this server now ? 20:26 Guest5601 Its a different one, it is working cause ive been working on a webpage 20:26 Guest5601 but just shows me the blank page 20:26 Guest5601 (where is the backup and restore tab) 20:28 Guest5601 (i probably sound so dumb, but im absolutely clueless abou koha and mysql) 20:28 JesseDhammu select your databaser in the left panel on PHPMYADMIN screen and than you will see multiple tabs on the right pannle screen 20:28 JesseDhammu out of those, one will be of export 20:29 Guest5601 when i try to export is where im having trouble 20:29 Guest5601 because when i select quick and go 20:29 Guest5601 it shows a blankpage 20:29 JesseDhammu and then in that window, you will see a dropdown, in which you can select multiple formats for your database export file , like CSV, SQL, Excel etc 20:30 JesseDhammu does Phpmyadmin works well .?? 20:30 JesseDhammu or is there a problem with that 20:30 JesseDhammu ?? 20:30 Guest5601 Its working fine apparently 20:30 Guest5601 it just doesnt let me export 20:31 JesseDhammu are you logged in as a root user.? 20:31 Guest5601 not one single db (theres plenty of them in this server) 20:31 JesseDhammu i mean do you have the full access to that db? 20:31 Guest5601 yep, i have full access 20:31 Guest5601 my boss just granted it to me 20:31 JesseDhammu who is the database admin .? 20:31 Guest5601 i already logged out and in...and nothing 20:32 JesseDhammu there is another way of exporting it through Command Line Interface, but I'm afraid you will not be having shell access to this Database Server . 20:33 Guest5601 my boss... 20:33 Guest5601 i just checked...i do have full access 20:33 Guest5601 i might... 20:33 Guest5601 i think i do 20:33 Guest5601 i mean, i think i do have shell access 20:34 Guest5601 using ssh i can remotely access the server 20:34 JesseDhammu ok than 20:34 JesseDhammu use Mysqldump command 20:35 JesseDhammu mysqldump -u YourUser -p YourDatabaseName > wantedsqlfile.sql 20:35 JesseDhammu check this out for details -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3031412/how-to-export-a-mysql-database-using-command-prompt 20:36 Guest5601 success!!...apparently 20:37 JesseDhammu now this is the first phase of moving up enroute koha 20:38 JesseDhammu you now have to get all this data in excel format 20:38 JesseDhammu and than convert the excel data into .MRC 20:38 Guest5601 how can i do that? 20:39 JesseDhammu but once you have the data in excel you will have complete view of your data, and will know what to put where 20:39 JesseDhammu please check, how much records are there 20:39 JesseDhammu i mean how many books? 20:40 Guest5601 where do i check that? 20:40 JesseDhammu Dude, that's what I said, 20:40 JesseDhammu once you have that data in excel, you will have complete picture. 20:41 JesseDhammu and moreover, you said you were using phpmyadmin to make data entries of library records. why don't you just check it there only.. 20:42 JesseDhammu browse through the database in phpmyadmin itself and it will show you to database structure and stored data. 20:45 Guest5601 1140 20:45 Guest5601 how do i convert it into xls if im remotely logged? 20:46 JesseDhammu that's not a huge amount it will be easy to convert into MARC 20:46 JesseDhammu Bring the data to your pc first 20:49 Guest5601 ok give me a sec 20:52 Guest5601 done 20:54 JesseDhammu try opening that file using MS excel 20:56 Guest5601 it opened it but told me it couldnt be fully loaded 20:56 JesseDhammu hmmm I see 20:56 Guest5601 cause it exceeded the maximum number of columns per sheet 20:59 JesseDhammu ok 20:59 JesseDhammu can you see the table structure of the DB in the database server 20:59 JesseDhammu ? 21:04 Guest5601 yes 21:04 Guest5601 i can 21:04 JesseDhammu how many tables are there ..? 21:05 Guest5601 7 21:06 JesseDhammu can you send a screenshot through pastebin ? 21:07 Guest5601 i think i cant 21:08 JesseDhammu ok, then just explain here, does these tables store your library data in 7 different tables, like in a relational manner? 21:08 JesseDhammu if you, you will need to export each table individually in CSV format 21:08 Guest5601 how do i pm you? 21:09 JesseDhammu mail me at rupinder@outlook.in 21:09 JesseDhammu but not now, lets see tomorrow, its late night here and i gotta sleep 21:11 Guest5601 ok...thankyou a lot 21:11 Guest5601 good night 21:11 wahanui sleep tight 21:44 BobB good morning 21:44 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:44 BobB right here wahanui 21:44 cait good morning BobB :) 21:46 BobB hi cait, we have a meeting soon? 21:47 * BobB grabs breakfast 21:48 cait yep 21:48 cait 10 mins 22:00 cait meeting time! 22:00 wahanui meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe 22:00 cait #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 28 September 22:00 huginn` Meeting started Thu Sep 28 22:00:44 2017 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:00 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_28_september' 22:00 cait hope some people around 22:01 rangi #info Chris C Catalyst IT 22:01 BobB i'm around :) 22:01 cait #topic Introductions 22:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 22:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 22:01 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Australia 22:01 cait 3 22:02 BobB hi rangi 22:02 cait anyone else? :) 22:02 rangi hi BobB 22:02 irma #info Irma CALYX AUstralia 22:02 irma hi all :-) 22:02 cait hi Irma 22:02 cait schön dich zu sehen 22:02 irma Du auch 22:03 BobB if this meeting is in german i am going to struggle :) 22:03 cait we better keep it english then 22:03 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_28_September#Agenda Agenda 22:04 cait tajoli: are you here for the meeting? 22:04 tajoli yes 22:04 BobB hi zeno 22:04 tajoli #info Zeno Tajoli, CINECA, Italy 22:05 cait ok, let's move on 22:05 cait #topic How does it work? 22:05 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 22:05 bag #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater 22:05 cait Instructions are on the wiki, please ask if there are any questions 22:05 cait there is a new link to a list of bugs on bugzilla related to documentation 22:06 cait #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&f1=keywords&f2=component&j_top=OR&known_name=Documentation%20To-do&o1=allwords&o2=equals&query_based_on=Documentation%20To-do&query_format=advanced&v1=Manual&v2=Documentation 22:06 BobB we (calyx) have had no time to look at this at all cait, but we should have some time this coming week 22:06 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS 22:06 cait np, next week would be great :) 22:06 cait shoudl we move on then if there are no questions about the process? 22:07 rangi yep 22:07 cait #topic What's been done so far 22:07 cait some smaller progress since the last meeting 22:08 cait #link https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo 22:08 cait you can see the points striked out there 22:08 cait #info jzairo has patron clubs ready and is working on rancor 22:08 cait jzairo++ 22:09 cait ok, moving on 22:09 cait #topic Next steps 22:10 cait People have asked about translations - I know bgkriegel is looking into it, but have no update right now 22:10 rangi I will email bernardo to ask about progress 22:10 cait thank you rangi 22:11 cait #action rangi to ask bgkriegel about progress on translations 22:11 cait I had the idea we could have a documentation sprint day 22:11 cait what do you think? 22:11 rangi that is a good idea 22:12 tajoli we can try 22:12 tajoli A question: you will accept patches for 17.05 tree ? 22:12 cait patch master 22:12 rangi and we will backport 22:13 rangi just like normal dev 22:13 cait let's focus on fixing the most recent 22:13 cait #info patches should be written against master, can backport when needed 22:13 irma if it is before October 10, I can participate in a documnetation sprint day 22:13 tajoli In fact is more easy to write patch for 17.05 for me and after for master 22:13 cait #info focus should be to fix the most recent version 22:13 cait thx irma 22:14 cait hm should we have it next week? 5th maybe? 22:14 rangi they are incredibly close, there should be no need for different patches, if it applies on master it will apply on 17.05 22:14 rangi so patch master 22:15 irma the 5th is fine for me 22:15 BobB 5th is ok and 6th too (time zone allowance) 22:16 tajoli But to do a useful work for my user I need to translate 17.05, so I can patch to master only if I sure that will backported 22:16 cait #link https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/ preview of 17.11 manual 22:17 cait if it makes sense and it applies it can be backported 22:17 cait maybe note in your commit message 22:17 cait the versions it applies to 22:17 tajoli The patches are not text 22:18 cait ? 22:18 tajoli there 130 images not migrated ftom DocBoot to new format 22:18 cait do you have a link of a page? 22:19 cait please file a bug report with examples 22:20 BobB cait when you say pls file a bug report ... 22:20 cait there is koha documentation i think 22:20 BobB do you mean in bugzilla, or is there a separate one for docs? 22:20 rangi in bugzilla 22:20 BobB ok 22:20 rangi in the documentation component 22:20 cait #info bugs about the manual/documentaiton should always be filed on bugzilla 22:21 BobB cool 22:21 cait i have another quick info to be discussed at the next general meeting 22:21 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Alternatives_for_help_files 22:21 cait Nicole used to update the help files form the written manual, which means it's a copy but without the images mostl 22:21 cait y 22:22 irma when training this week I found some "Help" pages were missing 22:23 cait yep 22:23 cait for example patron clubs 22:23 BobB but more basic ones too 22:23 cait we need to dicsuss how to handle them in the future 22:23 irma yep 22:23 irma I made a list 22:23 cait irma: maybe put it on the wiki page? 22:24 BobB good plan 22:24 tajoli I can fill a bug about this problem 22:24 cait the next thing I hope someone will have time to take a look at is search 22:24 cait I noticed that with EDI and EDIFACT you don't find the related chapters 22:24 tajoli The correct: http://manual.koha-community.org/16.05/en/patroninformation.html#patcheckout 22:24 cait it might be a problem with the sphinx version used, but I haven't been able to figure it out 22:24 tajoli The error: https://koha-community.org/manual/17.05/html/04_patrons.html#patron-information 22:24 rangi its probably mostly a problem with the manual being too big 22:25 tajoli See ‘My checkouts’My checkouts 22:25 rangi but ill look into it 22:25 tajoli The exact string 22:25 cait fix it on master please 22:25 rangi we need to add removing cruft as tasks too, and rewriting, theres a lots that way too verbose and make the manual big 22:25 tajoli There is a missing image with label "My checkouts" 22:26 cait and put the examples in a bug report :) 22:26 cait and one last thing someone could hlep with is some styling 22:26 cait for example i think it would work a bit better for us if the navigation on the left side was a bit wider 22:26 cait to make the manual a bit more readable, we could also use more 'Koha colors' 22:27 irma agree 22:27 BobB early days, but I have found searching for the right section is harder than in the old format 22:27 rangi the old format had no search 22:27 BobB I'll make that statement more concrete next week 22:27 rangi it was done by google 22:27 irma Also the number to each section has gone 22:27 rangi that can happen in the same way 22:27 BobB <ctl>f worked a treat :) 22:28 rangi but it'd be nicer to not rely on proprietary stuff 22:28 cait irma: which number? 22:28 irma 1.10. Logs 22:28 irma 1.10.2.6. IssueLog 22:28 cait hm true, I didn't notice that yet 22:28 cait I think in some cases splitting the chapters a bit more could be helfpul too 22:29 rangi yep 22:29 irma 4. Catalog Administration 22:29 irma 4.1. MARC Bibliographic Frameworks 22:29 cait got it 22:29 cait not sure if that could be generated automatically 22:29 cait numbers would keep changing quite a bit atm i guess 22:29 rangi on the upside, we've had more people contribute this year, than the entire rest of the history of the manual 22:29 BobB yes, for a while at least, as stuff is re-written 22:30 cait yep 22:30 rangi there are also a bazillion plugins for sphinx, i bet one does numbering if you tell it to in the config 22:30 cait #info more people contributing to the manual than ever before 22:31 cait #info Would be nice to get someone to help with styling 22:31 cait #action rangi to investigate search options/issues 22:31 cait oh and the documentation sprint 22:31 cait sorry, it's a little late 22:31 cait can i log that for 5th all day? 22:31 cait i will take care to fill up the to do list a bit before 22:31 irma yes cait 22:32 irma hi georgewilliams 22:32 georgewilliams hi irma 22:33 cait #action cait to announce Documentation Sprint Day for 5 October 22:33 cait moving on 22:33 cait #topic Getting more people involved 22:34 cait we still got lots to do and needs more hands 22:34 georgewilliams #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System - sorry i'm late - got held up in another meeting 22:34 cait georgewilliams: thx for coming :) 22:35 cait no ideas? 22:35 cait #info please get in touch with documentation team if you want to help in any way 22:36 cait i think maybe the sprint will help a little, please don't hesitate to push people willing to help in our direction :) 22:36 cait should we finish? 22:36 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 22:37 cait would october 19 work ? 22:37 georgewilliams oct 19 looks good to me 22:38 cait we can do it at the same time if that works for people 22:38 BobB oct 19 looks ok for me 22:38 cait or we could try to push it, but then i will need a little help 22:39 BobB this is a good time here, so its a bad time for someone else :) 22:39 cait for me heh 22:39 cait but it's fine 22:39 BobB europe then 22:39 cait let's keep it at this time until we figure out something better 22:39 BobB its late there eh? 22:40 tajoli It is midnight 22:40 cait woudl one hour earlier work? 22:40 cait with timezones changing? 22:40 cait daylight savings i mean 22:40 BobB oh yeah, daylight time starts next week 22:41 cait 21 utc that would be then? 22:41 tajoli In fact 19 oct doesn't work for me at any hour so it is not important 22:41 cait #info next meeting will be on 19 october 21 UTC 22:42 cait thx all for being here (late or not :) ) 22:42 cait #endmeeting 22:42 huginn` Meeting ended Thu Sep 28 22:42:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 22:42 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_28_september.2017-09-28-22.00.html 22:42 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_28_september.2017-09-28-22.00.txt 22:42 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/documentation_irc_meeting_28_september.2017-09-28-22.00.log.html 22:42 georgewilliams i'll try to be on time enxt time 22:42 tajoli bye 22:42 tajoli quit 22:42 tajoli exit 22:42 cait i've missed plenty of meeting, good you were her 22:42 cait e :) 22:42 BobB thanks cait 22:42 georgewilliams i'll read the chat log tonight 22:42 georgewilliams thanks 22:43 cait time to sleep 22:43 cait have a nice day all 22:43 BobB good night cait, thank you