Time  Nick            Message
23:50 oleonard        gaetan++
23:49 oleonard        gaetan arranged some really nice restaurant outings the last time I was there. I can see if I can find some names if you're interested.
23:47 jcamins         oleonard: yeah, I was thinking that e-mailing Koha people in Marseille might be a good idea. :)
23:44 * oleonard      had paul_p to do the driving
23:44 oleonard        ...but perhaps transportation would be an issue.
23:44 oleonard        You don't have to travel far out of the city to find a good place to hike.
23:44 oleonard        I recommend this: http://www.marseille-tourisme.com/en/discover-marseille/sea-and-nature/the-calanques/
23:43 oleonard        jcamins: Eating and drinking with Koha people.
23:34 jcamins         (we're going to be there for a day sometime not next week but the week after)
23:34 jcamins         Does anyone have anything they particularly enjoyed doing around Marseille when they visited during the hackfest?
22:59 huginn          oleonard: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 19 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <pianohacker> Katie_CPL: while somebody might jump in and prove me wrong, that may be a better mailing list question; don't know if we have anyone knowledgable about the labels system online right now
22:59 oleonard        @seen pianohacker
22:45 CLiu            I see it! Thank you!
22:38 wahanui         irc log is http://irc.koha-community.org
22:38 wizzyrea        irc log?
22:38 wizzyrea        irc log is http://irc.koha-community.org
22:38 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot irc log
22:38 wizzyrea        forget irc log
22:38 wizzyrea        sorry, leave off the s on https.
22:37 CLiu            it ask me to login to piwik?
22:35 wizzyrea        irc log is https://irc.koha-community.org
22:35 CLiu            yep
22:35 wizzyrea        irc log?
22:35 CLiu            Is there any way to check history of chatting on this channel?
22:22 wahanui         hello, Infra_3600
22:22 Infra_3600      hi
22:18 CLiu            Hello, everyone
22:08 LeeJ            have a good night #koha
21:58 wizzyrea        17.05
21:57 wizzyrea        344033c32490df3e396ed530dcbf250086483371 just sayin
21:43 wizzyrea        nvm I see.
21:31 wizzyrea        does anybody know what version that fellow on the list is using?
20:53 LeeJ            Joubu: non-synced devbox worked perfectly.
20:51 LeeJ            ok..non-synced devbox up and running..now to try reset
20:35 * LeeJ          wants to create a wand that with a flick of the wrist up and spin up a devbox and with a flick of the wrist down can destroy it
20:34 bag             I guess me yelling at a tv - scared everyone away :P
20:26 bag             I’d prefer to just yell at the TV - sudo put on the mets game…
20:26 JesseM          Ha. Thats awesome
20:25 bag             ha!
20:25 LeeJ            it was on Dragon's Den..the UK's version of Shark Tank
20:25 LeeJ            bag: https://www.amazon.com/Kymera-Magic-Wand-Remote-Control/dp/B002SJKWZ4
20:24 * bag           hasn’t heard of it - has to google
20:23 LeeJ            bag: I have a feeling you own one of the bluetooth wand TV remotes
20:23 khall           lol
20:22 bag             I wish khall would just allow me to use a harry potter wand ;)
20:22 * LeeJ          sometimes wishes his campus would just move to *nix already
20:21 khall           heh
20:20 LeeJ            khall: that's actually what I'm doing right now...
20:20 khall           just to see if it works without the repo sync
20:20 khall           LeeJ: you *could* test that theory by destroying the devbox, disabling repo_sync, and re-upping it
20:20 LeeJ            it makes zero sense why the sync would affect anything
20:19 LeeJ            right?!
20:19 khall           hmmm, that is most curious
20:19 LeeJ            khall: that's what I tried..the only thing non-standard from the git repo is changing type: "virtualbox" to type: "smb"
20:18 khall           since you have an external repo, nothing of value should be lost if you haven't customized the envronment any
20:18 khall           LeeJ: you might want to just 'vagrant destroy jesse' and then vagrant up again. start fresh
20:17 khall           and then we gitify that, but still use the package versions of the commands iirc
20:17 LeeJ            huh...JesseM it wouldn't matter anyway because now it appears koha-shell is broken too :)
20:17 khall           those commands are installed from the package
20:17 khall           LeeJ: I can't imagine that would be related to the repo sync
20:17 bag             JesseM: nope
20:16 JesseM          Does "sudo koha-plack --restart kohadev" need to be done from koha-shell
20:15 LeeJ            Joubu: that's what I'm doing now..thanks for the input! I'm thinking it has something to do with the repo sync
20:15 Joubu           so try `sudo koha-plack --restart kohadev` as the vagrant user should be exactly the same
20:15 Joubu           it calls `sudo koha-plack --restart $kohadev`;
20:14 Joubu           LeeJ: hard to help you, but it should be trivial, look at ~/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl
20:12 LeeJ            Joubu: nope..I get no such file or directory on reset_plack.pl
20:01 LeeJ            ahh..I'll give it a go then!
20:00 Joubu           no, just execute `perl /home/vagrant/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl`
19:57 LeeJ            Joubu: hmm...mine only shows /home/vagrant/kohaclone:/home/vagrant/qa-test-tools
19:56 cait            Joubu: and absolutely not on the main mailing list?
19:56 Joubu           LeeJ: PERL5LIB=/home/vagrant/kohaclone:/home/vagrant/qa-test-tools perl /home/vagrant/misc4dev/reset_plack.pl
19:52 pastebot        "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "/usr/sbin/koha-* contents" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/650
19:51 Joubu           ls -l /usr/sbin/koha-*
19:51 Joubu           LeeJ: and /usr/sbin?
19:49 LeeJ            I guess I'm going to play around with my sync config
19:49 LeeJ            it's so confusing..the only thing I could think of is my sync_repo configuration causing it but it shouldn't matter..I'm able to write to it..
19:48 pastebot        "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ls debian scripts" (35 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/649
19:45 Joubu           ls /home/vagrant/kohaclone/debian/scripts/koha-plack
19:44 Joubu           LeeJ: ls -l /usr/sbin/koha-plack ?
19:43 Joubu           cait: hum... "If you want to report a problem, use our bug tracker"? :)
19:41 pastebot        "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "reset_all log" (181 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/648
19:40 LeeJ            Joubu: from vagrant I typed reset_all and this is what I got...
19:39 cait            maybe we should send a reminder to the list about how to report security problems
19:39 Joubu           LeeJ: how do you run it?
19:36 LeeJ            Joubu: have any idea what would cause do_all_you_can_do.pl (in kohadevbox running reset_all) to return saying unable to execute koha-plack or koha-rebuild-zebra no such file or directory?
18:44 Joubu           let's send all the vulnerabilities to the public list!
18:20 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:20 Joubu           @later tell tcohen KOHA_NO_TABLE_LOCKS is not set, because $ENV{_} ne 'prove', but 'koha-shell'
18:18 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
18:18 Joubu           @later tell tcohen found...
18:01 LeeJ            I even tried sudo reset_all just to be a completionist O:-)
17:55 tcohen          ah, it was reset_all, nm
17:55 tcohen          have you used sudo?
17:55 tcohen          no search results means plack is actually running
17:55 tcohen          teh koha-plack error is weird
17:55 LeeJ            tcohen: thanks for checking! no clue what's wrong..
17:45 tcohen          git down?
17:30 tcohen          LeeJ: works for me
17:19 tcohen          have you enabled elasticsearch by chance?
17:19 tcohen          LeeJ: so Koha works for you
17:17 LeeJ            tcohen: odd..I'm wondering if it's a SMB side effect then...because I can spin up the box perfectly fine. But after I spin up a box and tried to do an OPAC search I get no results..so I usually reset_all which then populates the sample data..
17:15 tcohen          will tell you once its done
17:15 tcohen          doing KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1 CREATE_ADMIN_USER=1 vagrant up
17:14 tcohen          nothing changed on that place I think
17:14 tcohen          LeeJ: will destroy my box and retry
17:13 LeeJ            tcohen: have you tried doing a reset_all recently for any reason? now I can't run it..it's returning unable to execute koha-plack...
16:36 LeeJ            gonna give it a go now to see how it works out
16:35 * LeeJ          shrugs
16:35 khall           that seems likely
16:35 oleonard        I don't even know why it's marked FQA. Perhaps only because khall didn't change the status? Should LeeJ's last attachment not have been obsoleted?
16:33 LeeJ            I'm hoping to get this working in time so that it can be paired with 2093
16:32 LeeJ            Comment 13 really explains the intended functionality well
16:32 khall           sounds philosophical ; )
16:31 LeeJ            khall: I had been looking it over again fresh after all these months, but I'm not sure what the "correct" approach would be :)
16:31 khall           I'll try to look it it, but if anyone else wants to, by all means please do ; )
16:31 LeeJ            oleonard: well was wondering what your thoughts on redirection are...usually sites would redirect a user to the last page they were on..which is not how the OPAC handles it right now
16:30 oleonard        It's failed QA... Waiting for khall to revise, I guess?
16:29 oleonard        I'm not sure what you're asking
16:28 LeeJ            oleonard: when you get a chance that is..I figured since you seem to be the go-to person for a lot of UX
16:28 huginn          04Bug 17153: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, Failed QA , Logging in during a search navigates to account page instead of back to search results
16:28 LeeJ            oleonard: I've had this bug for a while just didn't get around to it..what are your thoughts on this? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17153
16:27 oleonard        yes
16:27 LeeJ            oleonard: around?
16:19 jenkins         Project Koha_Master build #260: STILL UNSTABLE in 3 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/260/
16:03 Joubu           not really actually, I do not understand what is happening
16:02 tcohen          It is awesome when fixing things is so straightforward LOL
16:01 Joubu           tcohen: it does not rollback when it is not explicit (?!)
15:54 * tcohen        loves determinism
15:54 Joubu           in docker: same
15:54 Joubu           in devbox: 37, 0, 37 # correct
15:53 Joubu           tcohen: ^
15:53 pastebot        Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "1 #!/usr/bin/perl 2 3 use Mode" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/647
15:29 pastebot        "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "[15:22:27] t/db_dependent/Item" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/646
15:23 huginn          oleonard: The operation succeeded.
15:23 oleonard        @later tell pianohacker Now getting an error when I 'yarn build': 'Error: Cannot find module 'vinyl-source-stream'
15:09 * LeeJ          reviews meeting
15:09 * LeeJ          waves
15:01 reiveune        bye
14:54 * oleonard      wonders how many miles he would have to go to catch a tram, any tram
14:51 mveron          Good daytime everybody
14:51 * mveron        has to catch the tram
14:51 tcohen          kidclamp++
14:51 fridolin        see u tomorow everybody
14:50 fridolin        thanks a lot kidclamp
14:50 mveron          Thanks, kidclamp :-)
14:50 kidclamp        koha++
14:50 kidclamp        I think I caught everyone
14:50 oleonard        kidclamp++
14:50 kidclamp        oleonard++
14:50 kidclamp        fridolin++
14:50 kidclamp        mveron++
14:50 Joubu           thanks kidclamp
14:50 kidclamp        tcohen++
14:49 kidclamp        Joubu++
14:49 kidclamp        thanks all
14:49 huginn          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.log.html
14:49 huginn          Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.txt
14:49 huginn          Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017.2017-09-13-14.03.html
14:49 huginn          Meeting ended Wed Sep 13 14:49:49 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:49 kidclamp        #endmeeting
14:49 kidclamp        last chance!
14:49 kidclamp        #info Next meeting: September 27th, 21 UTC
14:48 mveron          +1
14:48 oleonard        +1
14:47 tcohen          +1
14:47 kidclamp        September 27th, 21 UTC?
14:46 tcohen          kidclamp: lol
14:46 kidclamp        prove t/bean_dependent/Brew.t
14:46 * oleonard      thinks this pot of coffee could have used some QA
14:45 kidclamp        #topic Set time of next meeting
14:45 kidclamp        #info QAers, please QA all the things
14:45 Joubu           QAers, please QA
14:44 kidclamp        anyone have anything else before we move to next meeting
14:43 tcohen          ok?
14:43 kidclamp        no worries tcohen
14:43 tcohen          oleonard: if you have any suggestions, file an issue on digibib/kohadevbox
14:42 ashimema        +1
14:42 oleonard        tcohen++
14:42 tcohen          sorry, OT
14:42 tcohen          we should implement some workflow for UI development on kohadevbox, including watcher and some live-reload lib
14:41 kidclamp        Anything here?
14:41 kidclamp        #topic Review of coding guidelines
14:41 huginn          kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
14:41 kidclamp        @later tell pianohacker check the irc meeting minutes
14:41 kidclamp        #info release process is suggested as proper time to compile assets, put onus on developers
14:40 oleonard        Thanks everyone :)
14:40 ashimema        +1
14:40 Joubu           silence means everybody agrees
14:40 * kidclamp      looks for dissenting views, sees none
14:40 oleonard        No objections to that plan?
14:39 tcohen          hehe
14:39 kidclamp        that's what happens when you sleep in
14:39 kidclamp        #action pianohacker should write a wiki page for compiling assets  in the release process
14:38 Joubu           so we just need a wiki page
14:38 tcohen          +1
14:37 oleonard        Adding it to the release management process would slightly complicate the process for developers, but that's our job and we can handle it.
14:37 tcohen          pick the one that hurts the less on the distribution/deployment side for the general public
14:37 Joubu           if it does not work, we test the other option
14:37 Joubu           yes, just pick one and try
14:36 tcohen          to ease adoption
14:36 tcohen          I think we should have it as a release management process for now
14:36 oleonard        (which is basically what tcohen just said)
14:36 oleonard        Solving this issue will lay the groundwork for a lot of positive improvements to our front-end asset handling
14:36 tcohen          it is the same discussion we could have about our less approach
14:35 oleonard        My thought is: Could we incorporate this build process into the release process, rather than the installation process?
14:34 oleonard        I think the discussion is boiling down to "When and how do we compile assets"
14:33 oleonard        #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043910.html
14:32 wahanui         oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:32 kidclamp        oleonard?
14:32 kidclamp        #action Joubu will draft a coding guideline for commit messages to be voted on next meeting
14:32 kidclamp        #info Joubu will draft a coding guideline for commit messages to be voted on next meeting
14:32 Joubu           something else? ES6?
14:32 Joubu           k
14:31 mveron          +1
14:31 kidclamp        I think write up as guideline and then a vote to accept next meeting
14:31 tcohen          hehe
14:30 Joubu           did not know it was sent
14:30 Joubu           sorry, has been disconnected
14:30 kidclamp        joubu is in a loop
14:30 Joubu           I update the commit messages before push (do not resend to bz) for a month, then ask authors to follow guidelines (fqa)
14:30 Joubu           I send an email to koha-devel, either you do not agree and suggest a counter proposition, or it's validated and added to the guidelines?
14:30 Joubu           ok, so how do we process?
14:29 Joubu           I update the commit messages before push (do not resend to bz) for a month, then ask authors to follow guidelines (fqa)
14:29 Joubu           I send an email to koha-devel, either you do not agree and suggest a counter proposition, or it's validated and added to the guidelines?
14:29 Joubu           ok, so how do we process?
14:29 kidclamp        are we done on commit messages?
14:28 oleonard        http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043910.html
14:28 oleonard        Even though pianohacker doesn't appear to be awake could we talk about the ES6 usage thread from the mailing list?
14:27 Joubu           pick the numbers from the url, and you are done
14:27 fridolin        indeed ;)
14:27 Joubu           you are not suppose to copy bugzilla headings :)
14:26 * Joubu         prefers ": ", there is one more char to describe the patch
14:26 fridolin        same has owen
14:26 kidclamp        so should this go into coding guidelines? so we have a standardized list of how to?
14:26 oleonard        But I do like being able to copy from the Bugzilla heading
14:25 * oleonard      doesn't care as long as we are consistent.
14:25 Joubu           then you can write a git hook to replace it if you like
14:25 fridolin        everybody prefers ':' than '-'?
14:24 Joubu           you can blame me for that too ;)
14:24 tcohen          yeah, can we change BZ display?
14:24 Joubu           the git log is aweful, and commit messages are often wrong
14:24 mveron          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages
14:24 Joubu           and "Bug 12345: (follow-up) same commit msg as before"  # i.e. can be squashed
14:24 fridolin        I personnaluy copi from Bugzilla whitch is : "Bug xxx - toto"
14:24 Joubu           and "Bug 12345: (qa-follow-up) a QA note about what my fix does"
14:24 oleonard        +1
14:24 tcohen          +1
14:24 kidclamp        +1
14:24 fridolin        +1
14:23 kidclamp        #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043991.html Commit messages and bug titles guidelines
14:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron
14:23 Joubu           "Bug 12345: my commit message"
14:23 Joubu           Then I'd like to see if we could agree on a way to standardize the commit messages
14:23 Joubu           anyway, read it.
14:23 Joubu           unless it's a new ft
14:23 Joubu           one is the problem, one is the fix
14:23 Joubu           commit messages + bug titles: they cannot be the same, it's not possible
14:22 Joubu           Commit messages - I sent a reminder about commit messages. You should all read it
14:22 kidclamp        #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
14:21 kidclamp        ^is for me :-)
14:21 kidclamp        #info remember to set yourself as qa contact when looking at a bug
14:21 tcohen          maybe next friday :-P
14:21 kidclamp        #info Joubu will send a poll for next QA sprint
14:21 tcohen          alright
14:21 Joubu           tcohen: I am going to do the same as last one, send a poll and see your availabilities
14:21 kidclamp        bag jajm
14:21 ashimema        oops
14:20 ashimema        huh.. wa
14:20 Joubu           for the next topic, yes
14:20 tcohen          Joubu: when do you want to do the QA sprint?
14:20 kidclamp        anything Joubu tcohen khall atheia ashimema?
14:19 tcohen          so, next two
14:19 tcohen          marcel said he would be out for three weeks
14:19 oleonard        kidclamp vacations like a European
14:19 kidclamp        thanks
14:18 tcohen          kidclamp: we missed you :-D
14:18 kidclamp        I will just add I was out end of July and most of August getting back into routine now
14:17 kidclamp        #topic Updates from the QA team
14:17 kidclamp        so we can move on i thnk
14:17 kidclamp        cait said shemight catch end of metting
14:17 wahanui         cait is probably the best friend you could ever have.
14:17 fridolin        cait ?
14:17 fridolin        I'm cool
14:16 kidclamp        #info frido was away but now catchign up and pushing
14:16 fridolin        nice work btw
14:16 fridolin        and i've pushed patches about translation
14:16 kidclamp        #info security releases last month and upcoming
14:16 fridolin        but i check on bugs major and more
14:15 fridolin        not a lot of patches because of my vacansions
14:15 fridolin        next release will be 17.05.04
14:15 fridolin        indeed
14:14 Joubu           Ha! And security releases last month, next ones are going to include security stuffs as well
14:14 fridolin        kidclamp: yep thanks
14:14 wahanui         fridolin is busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix
14:14 kidclamp        fridolin
14:14 kidclamp        #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:13 kidclamp        #info Joubu working on bug 19297 too
14:13 Joubu           but it's not a RM related job, you can move on :)
14:13 Joubu           patches are coming soon
14:13 Joubu           and the move to OOP makes things more easy and understandable. I hope I will be able to clean that area
14:12 kidclamp        #info REST patches awaiting docker/Jenkins completion
14:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19297 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Standardize "can place hold" calculations
14:12 Joubu           on the dev side, I am going to work on bug 19297, there are very weird things in this area
14:12 kidclamp        #info early feature freeze, so get enhancements in before 10/25
14:12 Joubu           I am waiting for the docker on jenkins to be ready to push Rest API related patches.
14:12 kidclamp        #info QA sprint went well, will organise another as queue grows
14:11 Joubu           If you want things to get pushed, it's now (and last 4 months...)
14:11 tcohen          Joubu++
14:11 oleonard        Joubu++
14:11 Joubu           So nothing marked as (real) enh will be pushed after October ~25th
14:11 Joubu           I am going to announce feature freeze very early, as I do not want to see people active only the last month before the release.
14:11 fridolin        RMint 17.05
14:11 Joubu           QA sprint was good, and NQA queue is growing again, so I guess we will organise another one soon.
14:10 fridolin        #info Fridolin Somers, Franche, Biblibre
14:10 kidclamp        #topic Update from the Release manager (17.11)
14:10 kidclamp        #info Dockerizing jenkins is almost done, anyone with Docker experienced is welcome to help
14:10 * oleonard      once wore a pair of Dockers khakis, FWIW.
14:10 tcohen          done
14:09 tcohen          :-D
14:09 tcohen          I repeat the request for people familiar with Docker to aid us
14:09 tcohen          with a small effort
14:09 tcohen          we might be capable of doing so for the stable branches
14:08 tcohen          I expected to have it earlier
14:08 tcohen          Jonathan and I are almost finished with dockerizing the jenkins tests
14:08 kidclamp        go for it tcohen
14:08 tcohen          Can I?
14:08 dani            #info Danielle Elder, BWS
14:08 kidclamp        none from me
14:07 oleonard        pianohacker here?
14:07 * oleonard      seems to only attend meetings which he is inadvertently present for
14:07 Joubu           none from me
14:07 kidclamp        #topic Announcements
14:06 oleonard        #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Library, Ohio
14:06 kidclamp        ping fridolin cait
14:05 barton          #info Barton Chittenden, BWS
14:05 caboose         #info Michael Cabus, BWS
14:05 mveron          #info Marc Véron Switzerland
14:04 JesseM          #info Jesse Maseto, BWS
14:04 tcohen          #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
14:03 Joubu           #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_13_September_2017 #empty
14:03 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
14:03 kidclamp        #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
14:03 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
14:03 kidclamp        #topic Introductions
14:03 huginn          The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_september_2017'
14:03 huginn          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:03 huginn          Meeting started Wed Sep 13 14:03:13 2017 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:03 kidclamp        #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 September 2017
14:01 kidclamp        meeting time!  giving a mintue for folks to arrive
13:59 mveron          Hi again #koha
13:57 Joubu           Please read second part of http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2017-August/043991.html
13:35 LeeJ            welp class time!
13:35 LeeJ            didn't know wahanui listed syspref defaults
13:34 LeeJ            I think I found the right option..I had that pref set to limit
13:34 kidclamp        ah
13:34 kidclamp        doesn't it default to all libraries? OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT lets you override and set to a branch in the apache config
13:34 wahanui         i guess SearchMyLibraryFirst is set to "Don't limit".
13:34 LeeJ            SearchMyLibraryFirst ?
13:32 LeeJ            basically asking if the masthead default can be changed? I recall seeing something at some poiint
13:29 LeeJ            general question..isn't there a syspref to default to all libraries in the OPAC?
13:29 LeeJ            yeah I had considered that..fortunately the data I'd be working with gets updated infrequently
13:24 kidclamp        one thing to watch for is data getting cached in public reports, it does happen sometimes
13:24 kidclamp        aw shucks
13:20 LeeJ            kidclamp: I hadn't really looked at that JS since you wrote it but now that I understand Koha a lot better I noticed that it pulled from a report..so just saying kidclamp is an excellent source of inspiration :)
13:19 kidclamp        so true
13:19 oleonard        Every JS is special kidclamp
13:18 LeeJ            kidclamp++
13:18 LeeJ            kidclamp: no! In fact, it helped me get an idea for my dematic work :)
13:18 kidclamp        was there a problem LeeJ?
13:15 * kidclamp      writes a lot of js, just because I don't remember doesn't mean it wasn't special though
13:14 kidclamp        vaguely
13:11 LeeJ            kidclamp: recall that JS to prevent on shelf holds for a shelving location you wrote for us last year? :)
13:05 Joubu           k
13:05 LeeJ            *class meeting times
13:05 LeeJ            inconvenient timings on their meeting times but no alternatives :(
13:04 LeeJ            Joubu: just FYI..I started taking college classes again this semester and I'm in class 10-11:30 Mon to Fri so I'll do my best to sit in on them when possible during class
13:03 cait            LeeJ: will check your merge request later today hopefully
13:02 cait            bbl
13:01 cait            Joubu: might miss it, or catch the end of it
13:01 LeeJ            on the bright side, I had an epiphany last night for a plugin to streamline my library's closed stacks workflow so I'm pretty excited to get some work done today
13:01 Joubu           dev meeting in 1h
13:00 * LibraryClaire makes plans for this evening
13:00 LibraryClaire   it's such tv and popcorn weather
12:59 * LeeJ          needs a caffeine IV drip
12:59 * LibraryClaire bows
12:59 LeeJ            ooooh
12:59 LeeJ            LibraryClaire: hahahaha
12:56 huginn          tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:56 tcohen          @later tell dcook I don't think he is. You can contact him by email
12:56 tcohen          morning
12:55 cait            i thought that was a common thing :)
12:55 cait            table of contents
12:55 LibraryClaire   tea or coffee
12:54 LeeJ            term doesn't ring a bell
12:54 LeeJ            what is toc exactly?
12:54 cait            i think that would help readability a lot
12:53 cait            so that the toc is wider
12:53 cait            i was thinking that we should change the style of the manual a bit
12:53 cait            hm looking at the toc... i think we should porbably keep it in one file for now, what do you think?
12:53 cait            https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/html/
12:52 LeeJ            how do I access it? Brain's a bit foggy in the morning :P
12:52 cait            could you vreify?
12:52 cait            it looks like the web version displays the contenst of the file as toc
12:52 LeeJ            haha I figured it was worth asking :)
12:51 cait            I haven't quite figured out hte structure yet
12:51 cait            it's a good question
12:51 LeeJ            cait: got your laters...also, how do we want a chapter for Rancor defined? As in its own RST file? Or still under Cataloging?
12:50 cait            saw my laters?
12:50 LeeJ            forgot to log out when I left work yesterday :)
12:49 LeeJ            hi #koha
12:47 kidclamp        hi Joubu
12:46 Joubu           hi #koha
12:35 magnuse         lazy ;-)
12:35 cait            magnuse: we are ont there yet
12:29 magnuse         has anyone else noticed changes in the OAI-PMH server after upgrading to 17.05.x? specifically changes in the "extended mode"?
12:18 matts           cait, okay
12:13 kidclamp        yeah, I make sure to add rancor to all the bug titles just for ease of use, I push the name as 'advanced cataloging editor' is a lot more syllables
12:11 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
12:11 cait            @later tell LeeJ - I didn't add it, maybe i missed it when searching? odd!
12:11 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
12:11 cait            @later tell LeeJ I think rancor was an inofficial project name, but maybe we should explain that so peopel still find it
12:10 cait            in case you want to take a look
12:10 cait            it's in the 'signed off' queue (with cas)
12:10 kidclamp        hi cait
12:10 cait            matts: we have submitted a patch for single-log out
12:10 * cait          waves
12:09 kidclamp        thanks matts
12:04 matts           I'll test your patch as soon as I can
12:04 matts           hi kidclamp
11:52 huginn          magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:52 magnuse         @later tell oleonard i get a heap of 404s for things like css and js on https://www.myacpl.org/koha/category/koha/customizations/
11:23 huginn          kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
11:23 kidclamp        @later tell matts take a look at bug 19296 please :-)
11:23 kidclamp        matts around?
09:54 * kidclamp      waves
08:01 fridolin        hie there
07:24 wahanui         hola, gaetan_B
07:24 gaetan_B        hello
06:17 * magnuse       waves
06:17 reiveune        hello
04:07 wizzyrea        you too :)
04:07 mtompset        Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea :)
04:06 mtompset        I get that too, unfortunately.
04:06 mtompset        I totally get the busy problem.
04:06 wizzyrea        some of it self inflicted, some not
04:06 mtompset        No problem, wizzyrea.
04:06 wizzyrea        sorry I'm heaps busy today :(
04:06 mtompset        And with the time passing midnight, I think I'll turn into a pumpkin and sleep.
03:58 mtompset        I forgot to check the message queue table. :)
03:58 mtompset        It's easy enough to test. Just a lot of test cases to be thorough. :)
03:57 * wizzyrea      reads the bug
03:55 mtompset        Sorry, huginn, you aren't privileged enough. :)
03:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18956 is not accessible.
03:55 mtompset        Care to take a look at bug 18956?
03:54 wizzyrea        I do
03:54 mtompset        Do you have Koha Security bug access?
03:54 wizzyrea        12-ish, depending on the state of daylight savings
03:54 mtompset        :)
03:54 wizzyrea        and we are 12 off of GMT
03:54 wizzyrea        it's 15:54 here
03:54 wizzyrea        well 4
03:54 mtompset        Oh... okay.
03:54 wizzyrea        still a bit early :)
03:54 wizzyrea        like 3am?
03:53 mtompset        Night for me in Canada, but I thought it would be like morning in Europe/Asia.
03:53 wizzyrea        also hi
03:53 wizzyrea        for most people :)
03:52 wizzyrea        it's kinda night
03:52 mtompset        Wow, I'm not having much luck at finding people associated with this bug.
03:52 huginn          mtompset: fridolin was last seen in #koha 4 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <fridolin> ah oki, otherwise it will be for next release
03:52 mtompset        @seen fridolin
03:51 huginn          mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 1 day, 10 hours, 11 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <cait> but I could apt-get it in ubuntu which was a plus
03:51 mtompset        @seen cait
03:50 huginn          mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 4 days, 17 hours, 17 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <marcelr> see you later #koha (in about three weeks)
03:50 mtompset        @seen marcelr
03:49 huginn          mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Joubu> bye!
03:49 mtompset        @seen Joubu
03:49 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
03:05 jenkins         Project Koha_Master build #259: STILL UNSTABLE in 3 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/259/
02:15 wizzyrea        oh wahanui you are so silly.
02:14 wahanui         I watch you sleep.
02:14 wizzyrea        good night
02:14 Joubu           bye!
02:14 Joubu           sounds related indeed :)
02:14 wizzyrea        thank you both
02:12 wizzyrea        :) but YAY mtj!
02:12 wizzyrea        annoying.
02:12 wizzyrea        how come that didn't come back on a search for "patron search"
02:12 mtj             ..i bumped into it last week
02:12 wizzyrea        you are right it does
02:11 Joubu           but if I hit the button again (from the filters on the left), it works
02:11 wizzyrea        it must be that one mtj
02:11 Joubu           on v16.11.11, when I enter a term in the header, nothing is return
02:11 Joubu           wizzyrea: almost work for me
02:10 huginn          04Bug 18551: minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , Hide with CSS dynamic elements in member search
02:10 mtj             hey wizzyrea... -> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18551#c31
02:10 wizzyrea        or early
02:10 wizzyrea        it's late for you I know
02:08 * Joubu         will be a bit slow
02:08 * Joubu         is trying
02:08 wizzyrea        thank you for thinking about it :)
02:07 wizzyrea        (fwiw there's nothing in the console)
02:07 wizzyrea        does it work for you?
02:06 wizzyrea        with the same data?
02:06 wizzyrea        mmm seems unlikely that would be the problem across every installation, and it works in 16.11.10?
02:06 Joubu           wizzyrea: Hi! Check the js console, may be a json formating issue
01:56 wizzyrea        not death so much as it just doesn't work.
01:56 wizzyrea        just death.
01:56 wizzyrea        and no errors
01:55 wizzyrea        and seems no bugs.
01:55 wizzyrea        i can't get it to work.
01:55 wizzyrea        anyone around, can you confirm, on 16.11.11, does the patron search work for you?
00:41 wizzyrea        naw
00:40 jcamins         wizzyrea: I don't know, the fairy land could be very disconnected. :P
00:38 wizzyrea        (that's a joke, you know.)
00:37 wizzyrea        you are all dead to me.
00:37 huginn          jcamins: Error: No such location could be found.
00:37 jcamins         @wunder 11375
00:37 dcook           I always like to try things myself!
00:36 dcook           hehe
00:36 wizzyrea        honestly, it's broken.
00:36 huginn          dcook: Error: No such location could be found.
00:36 dcook           @wunder syd
00:36 wizzyrea        definitely a fairy land.
00:36 * wizzyrea      looks around
00:35 jcamins         wizzyrea: or maaaaayyybbeeeee you live in an imaginary fairy land where it's tomorrow already. :P
00:33 wizzyrea        yeah wunder is broken
00:28 dcook           O_O
00:18 Francesca       O.o
00:18 huginn          Francesca: Error: No such location could be found.
00:18 Francesca       @wunder Wellington, New Zealand
00:18 huginn          Francesca: Error: No such location could be found.
00:18 Francesca       @wunder wlg
00:16 dcook           Thanks :)
00:15 Francesca       I hope you all start feeling better soon!
00:15 Francesca       :(
00:15 dcook           Francesca: Between me and my kid, I feel like we've been sick for months :(
00:14 dcook           Especially with the build snapshot script already there
00:14 dcook           RPMs are so easy to make. I'm sure Deb packages can't be that hard..
00:14 * dcook         is going to give packaging Debs a go at some point when he finds some time
00:14 dcook           wizzyrea: Ahh ok. That's how I figured that would work as that's how RPMs go about things as well.
00:13 wahanui         rumour has it vote is going to the list regardless of what we decide
00:13 dcook           vote?
00:13 wizzyrea        sorry I'm walking away to go vote - bbiab
00:13 wizzyrea        dcook ^
00:12 Francesca       thats awesome
00:12 wizzyrea        I am
00:12 wizzyrea        upstream wouldn't have anything to overwrite and they'd be fine
00:12 Francesca       wizzyrea I see you are looking for a dog
00:12 wizzyrea        but upstream didn't have that
00:12 wizzyrea        many example.
00:12 wizzyrea        so for example if you had tv-TV for example,
00:12 Francesca       I was sick last week
00:12 Francesca       urgh being sick sucks
00:12 wizzyrea        well, it wouldn't splat them if the translation didn't exist in upstream
00:11 wizzyrea        when apt installs
00:11 wizzyrea        you can specify "do not update translations"
00:11 wizzyrea        but
00:11 wizzyrea        updates would splat their translations yes
00:10 * dcook         is sick :(
00:10 dcook           I keep wondering if updates would splat their packages..
00:10 Francesca       how are you all?
00:10 dcook           wizzyrea: Do you have much experience with installing languages with the Koha Debian packages?
00:08 dcook           I was hoping to show them how to get started in person, but I think bgkriegel has been off the channel for about two weeks now and hasn't answered his email the past few days
00:08 wizzyrea        hi Francesca
00:08 wizzyrea        that's fab
00:08 wahanui         hola, Francesca
00:08 Francesca       hi
00:08 dcook           Have some willing translators :)
00:07 * Francesca     waves at dcook
00:07 wizzyrea        noice
00:07 dcook           wizzyrea: Tuvaluan
00:07 * dcook         waves to Francesca
00:07 wahanui         language is probably filed letter by letter word by word
00:07 wizzyrea        what language?
00:07 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
00:07 dcook           @later tell tcohen Do you know if bgkriegel is around at the moment?
00:07 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
00:07 dcook           @later tell bgkriegel Hey Bernardo, can you email me if you see this? I'd like to add a language to Koha :)