Time  Nick                 Message
23:34 cait1                best with steps on how to recreate the issue
23:34 cait1                you might want to file a bug repor tfor that
23:34 cait1                hm then it showed the wrong error
23:33 gveranis             when returned
23:33 gveranis             cate For the problem I mentioned before meeting , the problem was that those items was in "lost" status . And that cause a problem in ModItem I think
23:23 Brooke               my pleasure
23:22 greenjimll           Night night all - time for sleep!
23:22 mveron               ...and good night / daytime #koha :-)
23:22 georgehwilliams      See you all later
23:22 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg Peace!
23:22 MKuhn                Good night everybody
23:22 greenjimll           Thanks for hosting Brooke!
23:21 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg Brooke++
23:21 mveron               Brooke++
23:21 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg keeps getting better
23:21 huginn               Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting.2017-09-06-22.18.log.html
23:21 huginn               Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting.2017-09-06-22.18.txt
23:21 huginn               Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting.2017-09-06-22.18.html
23:21 huginn               Meeting ended Wed Sep  6 23:21:37 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
23:21 Brooke               #endmeeting
23:21 Brooke               #agreed Next General Meeting 14.00 UTC 4 October
23:21 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg +1
23:21 Brooke               14 then
23:20 cait1                14
23:20 cait1                https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
23:19 cait1                2 time slots
23:19 cait1                that's the current schedule
23:19 cait1                for the meeting before this one
23:19 georgehwilliams      +1
23:19 cait1                look at the wiki
23:19 mveron               +1
23:19 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg sounds good
23:19 Brooke               I'm gonna put out 16.00 UTC then and see if anyone yelps
23:18 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg well, I'm a west coasty here in the states and I'll accomodate anytime
23:17 wahanui              aye aye cap'n
23:17 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg roger that
23:17 MKuhn                One more good reason to stay away from Twitter Facebook Google+ and the like
23:17 Brooke               just not sure what the current groove is
23:17 Brooke               Tgoat it's meant to rotate, or at least it used to
23:17 huginn               greenjimll: downloading the Perl source
23:17 greenjimll           @kohails has over 1300 followers, quite a lot of who look like librarians, open source fans and techies. Its not tweeted since Dec 16. Could be used to promote these/dev meetings, etc?
23:17 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg let's be more accommodating for our European and NZ folks
23:17 MKuhn                Is it true the last tweet is from Deecember 2016?
23:16 Brooke               okay so 4 October what UTC is meant for next go?
23:15 mveron               https://twitter.com/kohails
23:13 greenjimll           Who maintains the @kohails Twitter handle?
23:13 Brooke               thank you :)
23:13 georgehwilliams      I will
23:13 Brooke               we can connect the two and then possibly find more
23:13 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg so we do need to have a presence
23:13 Brooke               george: please send that out over the listserv
23:12 georgehwilliams      There are also two Koha groups on facebook
23:12 cait1                ok
23:12 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg sounds good
23:12 mveron               4 Oct OK for me
23:12 Brooke               scheduling conflicts with Wednesday 4 October anyone?
23:10 greenjimll           I should point out that Koha is already on Twitter! ;-)
23:10 Brooke               so 4 Oct?
23:10 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg there is a science to fundraising and membership (you can actually get a degree in it) and ours is to find a way to get our fan base to help us with contact info so we can see where everyone is while we share more info.. remind them how lucky we all are and hope they see to helping out
23:09 Brooke               #topic time and date of next General meeting
23:09 Brooke               so I think we'll table this and if someone comes out with a dying passion to stick us on Facebook someplace, we can take up the ins and outs of setting that up over the mailing list
23:09 greenjimll           I don't do Facebook, but I am aware that it is where a lot of people, including librarians, spend an awful lot of time and share a large amount of information.
23:08 * mveron             Is not on Facebook - and does not plan to be there
23:08 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I have a Facebook account but it's so wearing
23:08 Brooke               yep
23:08 greenjimll           Different media gets people in different ways. I don't have a Facebook account either, but I do mailing lists and Twitter. Horses for courses.
23:08 * Brooke             is not a resident of Googledom or Facebookistan either
23:08 cait1                and I know a lot of people who don't - this might vary between countries
23:07 Brooke               yeah, I tell people you need to go to where someone lives
23:07 cait1                I don't even have a Facebook account :)
23:07 greenjimll           I was at a meeting yesterday where several people said they didn't like the mailing list we use (not Koha's!) but preferred Facebook. Some people were the other way round.
23:07 cait1                at least for a community driven thing
23:07 cait1                and if they get special privileges... that kinda feels wrong
23:07 * mveron             found a snapshot with the former Donate button: https://web.archive.org/web/20161202152128/https://koha-community.org/
23:06 cait1                I don't quite see what another would help
23:06 cait1                like the general mailing list
23:06 cait1                TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: we have multiple channels to reach out to people
23:05 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg an obligation to do so
23:05 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg it's never an ask it's more a non-ask. they have a sense of wanting top contribute in whatever manner they feel
23:04 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg so true greenjimll
23:04 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg and all we want is an opportunity to share more with them
23:04 greenjimll           You can engage people/organisations using social media before/without the funding ask.
23:04 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg maybe nothing changes but they have awesome access to fantastic info
23:04 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg how that works can be decided
23:04 Brooke               so in specific Facebook was mentioned
23:03 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg we can offer them an opportunity to be a part of it through a free membership
23:03 Brooke               and I think a lot of these topics swirl into one another
23:03 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg those who use and know Koha love Koha
23:03 Brooke               heightened community development is definitely something the RM has been doing
23:03 MKuhn                this is just estimated
23:03 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I can't imagine how many people are using from personal to universities
23:02 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg well, li braries
23:02 greenjimll           15000 users as in librarians? Or libraries? Certainly not end users - we'll have that in just our students.
23:01 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg Koha has a lot of users.. last I heard possibly over 15,000
23:01 rangi                there is zero tax incentive to donate to a nz charity
23:01 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg rangi think so?
23:01 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg for sure
23:00 Brooke               Institutional giving is even trickier
23:00 rangi                by all means try again, but if you want us libraries to contribute, you're way better off with a us not for profit
23:00 greenjimll           People or institutions? Or both?
23:00 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg having a membership will allow us to do no-ask solicitations. a means top tell people how lucky we are to have Koha and a way to let them express without asking to donate
22:59 cait                 and we already have a general mailing list
22:59 rangi                to a not for profit, registered charitable trust
22:59 cait                 you need to state what the contact will be used for beforehand
22:59 rangi                it already was tied
22:59 cait                 be careful
22:59 Brooke               I would also imagine without proper ties to a non profit someplace, people might be less than thrilled to give
22:59 Brooke               was it advertised off of IRC?
22:58 greenjimll           Does hosting of git/bugzilla need to be paid for?
22:58 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg zactly
22:58 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg factly Brooke
22:58 rangi                it wasn't what you would call a success by any stretch of the imagination
22:58 Brooke               it also could theoretically fund development or bug fixing
22:58 rangi                (re the fundraising button, there was a sum total of less than 300 nzd)
22:57 Brooke               it'd make conference planning a heck of a lot more stable
22:57 gveranis             *fund
22:57 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg well, membership and fundraising are two different topics but one does lend itself to other
22:57 Brooke               it would be nice for a number of different reasons
22:57 gveranis             if we tell people why we need found rising ?  I mean to have a plan for it ?
22:56 Brooke               cait that seems like a logical opt in option
22:56 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg establish ^^
22:56 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg cait we need to stab;ish the breadth of our community and be able to use that info as we  reach out
22:56 cait                 maybe we could do something with hea to give people opportunity to register?
22:55 cait                 seems like another list like hea and the wiki then :)
22:55 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg cait that is to be established but my thoughts are free. we just want their contact info
22:55 wahanui              benefits are scalability AIUI
22:55 rangi                benefits
22:55 rangi                cos that way you get the tax benefirst
22:54 cait                 KohaLa is a User group
22:54 Brooke               I also believe that Argentina has a similar set up
22:54 rangi                if the money is going to be coming from us, libraries, then a us one makes sense
22:54 cait                 about the membership - would that require a payment? Or would it be free?
22:54 Brooke               so that might be another option for the community
22:54 Brooke               I know KohaLa in France already has their version of non profit status
22:54 rangi                thats why we havent
22:54 rangi                no
22:54 Brooke               are other kiwis interested in doing it?
22:54 cait                 needs people to run it, I think?
22:54 rangi                will hold the assets, but we arent interested in jumping through the hoops that are required to collect money
22:53 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg why so rangi?
22:53 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg there he is
22:53 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg to have a registered membership is to have a db of people that are fans, users and supporters
22:53 rangi                naw, no not profit in nz
22:53 cait                 what does it mean?
22:52 Brooke               strong thoughts on registered membership?
22:52 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg agreed
22:52 Brooke               and add once again that I think it's a great idea for there to be a non profit someplace and I have no objection to that someplace being eNZed
22:52 huginn               04Bug 14606: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, In Discussion , Donate to the Koha International Fund
22:52 * mveron             found a bug about the button: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14606
22:51 Brooke               I will continue to go through the motions, though
22:51 Brooke               going to have to bin a lot of this talk or at least let it stew til next meeting
22:51 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I was hoping this is where rangi would pop up
22:50 Brooke               any kiwis about that want to enlighten us on that?
22:50 Brooke               which rests nicely on the next item, which is a New Zealand non profit
22:50 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg maybe we have the cart first here.. do we need a treasurer and so forth. normal fundraising committee type group
22:49 georgehwilliams      provided it goes someplace safe, I think it's a good idea
22:49 Brooke               there are countries that do not do PayPal, but we can suss something out for them if they're in a giving mood
22:48 Brooke               no button no dosh
22:48 Brooke               I concur TGoat
22:48 Brooke               does anyone think it's a bad idea provided it goes someplace safe?
22:48 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg of course this will be integral to fundraising
22:48 greenjimll           Paypal payments? We did one for a conference in AU that we organised from UK so that payments could be in correct currency.
22:47 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg :D
22:47 Brooke               a long time ago when animals could talk, KohaCon 2010 had a paypal button
22:47 cait                 yes, wizzyrea might know where the funds went
22:47 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg Donation button
22:47 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg wasn't there a fundraising button on the site at one time?
22:46 cait                 we had one in the past, I am not opposed, but shouldn't we clarify who will hold the money first?
22:46 Brooke               so thoughts about a fundraising button
22:46 wahanui              aye aye cap'n
22:46 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg roger that
22:46 Brooke               I'd belay
22:45 Brooke               alright well hopefully there will be some updates here next meeting
22:45 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg Brooke should I continue down the list?
22:44 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I've emailed Joann but received no response
22:44 Brooke               that's helpful, thanks
22:43 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I can tell you that in the discussion with Chris the assets will stay in NZ
22:43 greenjimll           In NZ its currently 10:43AM tomorrow. :-)
22:43 Brooke               not quite, they are 10.43 AM cause DST does weird stuff
22:43 Brooke               arvo
22:42 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg what time is it in NZ?
22:42 Brooke               going to constructing a fundraising committee then
22:41 * Brooke             pokes rangi
22:41 Brooke               is Chris here to address the first point?
22:40 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg sorry for the list
22:40 Brooke               #topic Fundraising
22:40 Brooke               so if you're not on the listserv, get on the listserv if you want to vote ;)
22:40 Brooke               but don't worry, it goes out to the listserv
22:39 Brooke               we'll figure out the voting piece later if it ends up being necessary
22:39 Brooke               #agreed Bids for KohaCon close 27 Sep
22:39 cait                 it's not limited to irc meetings because of timezones
22:39 Brooke               hearing no objections
22:39 cait                 but if there are more bids, we will probably set up an online form for voting again
22:38 cait                 #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Processes_for_KohaCons
22:38 Brooke               so that would be bids close 27 Sep
22:38 cait                 greenjimll: it's procedure - no deadline has been announced, so we do that and close the bidding process after
22:38 Brooke               I'm assuming folks won't have a problem with that, right?
22:38 Brooke               that is a friendly amendment Cait
22:37 cait                 usually first Wendesday of each month
22:37 Brooke               it is possible that some folks are unaware greenjim11
22:37 cait                 why not make it 3 then? we have one general a month
22:37 greenjimll           Do you vote if there's only one bid? Or is it still needed to get numbers estimates?
22:37 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg +1
22:37 georgehwilliams      +1
22:37 mveron               +1
22:37 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg that sounds reasonable
22:36 Brooke               would folks be okay with setting a deadline for bids at 2 weeks from now so that a vote could be done at the next general?
22:36 cait                 i think calls for bidding have been made
22:36 cait                 how long is reasonable?
22:36 Brooke               yeah let's do that
22:36 cait                 there is none mentioned on the wiki yet
22:36 cait                 i think we could decide on a deadline for bidding soon
22:35 cait                 checking
22:35 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg :)
22:35 Brooke               how long do folks have to place their name in the hat before it's voted?
22:34 cait                 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: technically.. but with one bid at the moment chances seem good :)
22:34 Brooke               anyone here associated with that bid?
22:34 cait                 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: that's not decided yet
22:33 Brooke               looks like one bid from Portland at the moment
22:33 mveron               https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals
22:32 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg brooke it's in the US next year, correct?
22:31 Brooke               so does anyone have input about a new location for KohaCon?
22:31 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg do tell
22:31 * Brooke             is reminded of dance nights at RPI.
22:30 Brooke               so I guess it's old business first here. Anyone have anything to say about the Philippines?
22:30 Brooke               #topic KohaCon
22:29 wahanui              crickets are not due to the height of their legs compared to their wingspan or something like that.
22:29 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg crickets..
22:28 Brooke               surely someone is dying to update us on the next release
22:28 Brooke               #topic updates on 17.11
22:28 Brooke               moving along
22:28 Brooke               yeah it's nuts to be awake in Europe atm
22:27 cait                 fridolin is probably asleep :)
22:27 cait                 #info also back on track - some patches pushed today
22:26 Brooke               updates on 17.05 anyone?
22:26 Brooke               #topic update on 17.05
22:26 cait                 nothing much
22:26 Brooke               anything else to say?
22:25 Brooke               cait++ for sentience at this hour
22:25 cait                 yes, me, RMaint :)
22:24 cait                 #info we are back on schedule for now after the security release, will start pushing again soon
22:24 Brooke               anyone in the know on the status of 16.11?
22:24 Brooke               #topic update on 16.11
22:24 * mveron             waves to cait
22:23 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg hi ya cait :)
22:23 cait                 [off] sorry forgot about the time
22:23 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg besides what's already known, not I
22:23 Brooke               hooray
22:23 cait                 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ
22:23 Brooke               *crickets*
22:22 Brooke               anyone here in the know on 16.05?
22:22 Brooke               #topic Update on 16.05
22:22 Brooke               fine, I will say that the documentation meeting went well and if folks are curious, there are new tools to look at in that department
22:22 greenjimll           Nothing from me.
22:21 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg I have nothing to announce
22:21 Brooke               anyone have anything to announce?
22:21 Brooke               #topic announcements
22:20 gveranis             #info George Veranis , Greece
22:20 TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg #info TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg
22:19 mveron               #info Marc Véron, Switzerland
22:19 thd                  #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City. - I will need to leave the meeting early
22:19 georgehwilliams      #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
22:19 MKuhn                #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland
22:19 wahanui              #info TGoat is going to work on fundraising
22:19 TGoat                #info TGoat
22:19 Brooke               Introductions please if you want with a #info
22:19 greenjimll           #info Jon Knight, developer, Loughborough University
22:18 huginn               The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting'
22:18 huginn               Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
22:18 huginn               Meeting started Wed Sep  6 22:18:45 2017 UTC.  The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
22:18 Brooke               #startmeeting General IRC meeting
22:18 TGoat                00:30 for  a meeting.. can do better?
22:18 wahanui              i already had it that way, huginn.
22:18 huginn               Brooke: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'
22:18 wahanui              if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
22:18 Brooke               #startmeeting
22:18 huginn               Brooke: I suck
22:18 Brooke               @startmeeting
22:18 greenjimll           Do it!
22:18 Brooke               gonna do it if no one stops me :P
22:18 greenjimll           Well the agenda is online so why not start now?
22:17 TGoat                :)
22:17 Brooke               I can drive the bus if need be
22:17 TGoat                we had a good meeting last month
22:17 MKuhn                Lately people complained no one is attending the meetings...
22:17 Brooke               it's late in Europe
22:17 Brooke               cait's probably asleep
22:16 TGoat                doesn't cait normally lead the meetings?
22:16 MKuhn                There seems to be no meeting... and it's already 00:30 AM over here
22:16 greenjimll           Is this meeting actually happening? Its 15 minutes past the advertised start time now.
22:11 thd                  barton: However, can you imagine how the behaviour which you are reporting would be useful as a feature?
22:09 greenjimll           #info Jon Knight, developer at Loughborough University
22:06 TGoat                thanks Mauricio_BR and MKuhn
22:06 barton               the circcontrol branch is 'the branch the item was checked out from'
22:05 barton               thanks thd.
22:04 thd                  barton: There should be a meeting now which has not quite yet started.
22:04 georgehwilliams      barton - it depends on one of the circulation preferences
22:04 MKuhn                postpned to 13 September
22:04 Mauricio_BR          > Next general meeting will be tonight/today at 22UTC: > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_6_September_2017 > > And the next development meeting will be next week: > > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_13_September_2017
22:04 TGoat                cool thkx MKuhn ..
22:04 MKuhn                Yes, the dev meeting was suspended
22:03 TGoat                yes the general meeting is suppose to be starting right now but there was discussion earlier that the two had conflicting times
22:03 barton               this a bug, or is this the way that Koha is designed?
22:03 barton               I have a question about circulation limits... let's say that I have a patron of with category CHILD... the default circ rules for type DVD allow the patron to borrow 5 DVDs. I can check out 5 DVDs at any branch, and when I try to check out a 6th, I get a warning. ... if I clone the rules to, say, 'East Branch' and set the staff client location to East Branch, I can now check out 5 more DVD to this patron. Is
22:03 TGoat                what was decided on the meetings?
22:03 MKuhn                what conflict, isn't there a Genarl Meeting starting right now?
22:02 thd                  hehe
22:02 TGoat                the general meeting and the koha-dev meeting
22:02 greenjimll           This should be the general meeting right? Dev meeting put off?
22:02 TGoat                thd I think there is a conflict of meetings
22:02 gveranis             cate Can I fix that thing manually direct in database ?
22:02 TGoat                howdy everyone :)
22:01 greenjimll           thd: I hope so!
22:00 thd                  Is there a meeting soon or did I come to the wrong time zone?
22:00 greenjimll           Evening all.
22:00 mveron               hi barton :-)
22:00 barton               hi mveron!
21:58 mveron               Good midnight / daytime #koha
21:53 gveranis             If I can see something there ?
21:52 gveranis             do you know the lines in code ? where Koha check for this ?
21:52 cait                 the error... it should not display if your db is ok
21:52 cait                 that's the only case it should be there
21:51 cait                 too quick for me
21:51 LeeJ                 cait: I'll be on my way home when the meeting starts..I'll check back in tomorrow :) have a good night!
21:50 LeeJ                 then that's most likely where the error message spawned from I would assume
21:48 gveranis             the issue_id that I have in issues , not exist in old_issues
21:46 gveranis             it was down on the page :-D
21:46 gveranis             no sorry I have it ;)
21:45 gveranis             wait
21:45 gveranis             ok this is something strange in my database I notice that I don't have this table at all
21:45 cait                 the reason the message shows is that the issue_id is there in issues (checked out) and old_issues (returned)
21:44 cait                 gveranis: i'd take note of the issue id of those 2 specifically and check it in old_issues
21:44 gveranis             *borrowers
21:44 gveranis             no, different users , differrent branches.. patrons..
21:44 LeeJ                 I wasn't really involved with fixing the issues table problem...I believe cait was
21:43 LeeJ                 have you been able to find similarities between the two?
21:43 gveranis             which function Koha use to check and show this error ?
21:43 gveranis             but those 2 no
21:43 gveranis             some of items check-in normally
21:42 gveranis             an I upgrade it yesterday
21:42 gveranis             I have 2 items at the moment
21:42 gveranis             no
21:42 LeeJ                 is that the only item you have found a problem with so far?
21:41 gveranis             for that item I have only one issue
21:41 LeeJ                 gveranis: yes
21:40 gveranis             in database ?
21:40 cait                 did you check the issue id of the one that would give you the error?
21:40 cait                 gveranis: that's really odd
21:40 gveranis             :-(
21:39 LeeJ                 it's a curse :(
21:39 LeeJ                 I know
21:39 cait                 you want tricky things
21:39 cait                 LeeJ: i think i'd split it
21:37 LeeJ                 hmm..
21:37 gveranis             If I look a file or something ?
21:37 gveranis             Can I run something to identify why this message shows ?
21:36 gveranis             but the message is there ( ! )
21:36 gveranis             so I don't ( ! ) have something corrupted ( ! )
21:36 gveranis             but queries returned 0
21:35 gveranis             to check if I have something corrupted
21:35 gveranis             I run also the queries that mention here "https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix" -> Are your data corrupted?
21:34 gveranis             yes
21:34 gveranis             I had 16.05
21:34 gveranis             at all !
21:34 LeeJ                 what version did you upgrade from? and did check ins work on the previous version?
21:34 gveranis             nothing
21:34 cait                 hm and nothing on the systen information tab? on the about page?
21:34 gveranis             but when I go to that page I get No warnings
21:34 LeeJ                 O.o
21:33 gveranis             The item has not been checked in due to a configuration issue in your system. You must ask an administrator to take a look at the about page and search for the "data problems" section
21:33 LeeJ                 on check in does it give you an error message? If so, what's the message it gives?
21:32 gveranis             any idea ?
21:32 gveranis             I see "No warnings" !
21:32 gveranis             and when I go to see about page for the data problem
21:32 gveranis             I just upgrade one instance to 17.05 , everything is almost ok. But when I check in something I have the known error
21:31 LeeJ                 gveranis: sure what's on your mind?
21:31 gveranis             I would like to ask something
21:31 wahanui              privet, gveranis
21:31 gveranis             hi
21:30 LeeJ                 pretty much :P
21:30 cait                 we got... all have to be checked out... one has to be checked out... and none has to be checked out :)
21:30 LeeJ                 exactly why I have this predicament lol
21:30 cait                 in the configuration options
21:30 cait                 that is not covered yet
21:30 cait                 or when all items are out
21:30 cait                 hm ok, so a hold when it#s available
21:29 LeeJ                 a 'do you really want that' is what I was going for...if every item is already checked out we allow them to place a hold on it for when it gets returned
21:27 cait                 do you just want a 'do you really want that' or would yo uprefer to disallow holds when it's out?
21:27 cait                 i tihnk the new granular shelf holds help already a bit
21:26 cait                 hm kind of
21:25 LeeJ                 bohdan_ looks like the beating with your fishbot worked
21:23 LeeJ                 hmm..so would it be fair to assume that it would give Koha an advantage around there if I were to get fully-integrated closed stacks functionality in place?
21:22 cait                 some want the ILS to print out the requests on specific printers depending on callnumber range
21:22 cait                 around here
21:22 cait                 workflows for closed stacks are a usually pressure point in RFPs I'd say
21:22 LeeJ                 but they were originally HK Systems before the merger
21:21 LeeJ                 our retrieval system is from Dematic Corp
21:21 cait                 lol
21:21 LeeJ                 our company was originally a German company :P
21:21 cait                 :)
21:21 LeeJ                 sigh...I should have realized
21:21 cait                 so you are not that unusual
21:20 cait                 LeeJ: actually closed stacks is a very common thing in university libraries here
21:20 LeeJ                 cait: this was our little promotional video to announce the transition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMruUES8WIY
21:19 LeeJ                 we have a shelving location called "Bins" that indicates an item stored in the retrieval system so when a user is looking for an item their thought process is basically "alright...I want X book and the catalog says it's located in Bins and it has an available status"
21:17 LeeJ                 instead we have a book retrieval system that houses our collection below ground..
21:17 LeeJ                 we don't have stacks so patrons can't go pick what they want and bring the book to the desk to be checked out like a traditional library would operate
21:16 LeeJ                 it's because of the way our library is designed
21:15 cait                 but why allow onshelfholds in the first place then?
21:15 cait                 unusual i mean
21:15 LeeJ                 haha
21:15 cait                 not really
21:15 LeeJ                 unusual I know :P
21:15 cait                 hm
21:14 * bohdan_            slaps bohdan around a bit with a large fishbot
21:13 LeeJ                 only if no items are available
21:13 cait                 and you don't want them to place hold if there is still an available item?
21:12 LeeJ                 at our main branch, patrons select what they want and the main branch allows on shelf holds and forces item-level holds on the OPAC
21:11 LeeJ                 well the short version of it is..
21:11 LeeJ                 haha
21:10 cait                 actually just trying to understand the spec :)
21:10 LeeJ                 that didn't dawn on me...I should do it from opac-reserve instead of opac-search
21:10 LeeJ                 I see where you're going with that...
21:10 LeeJ                 ahhhhhh
21:10 cait                 is this for item level holds?
21:09 cait                 what if there are multiple items?
21:09 LeeJ                 correct
21:09 cait                 so the confirm should show when the item is checked out?
21:09 LeeJ                 we do allow multiple holds..so far the only problem we've run into is from opac-search
21:08 LeeJ                 I know...I put myself in odd places :P
21:08 cait                 do you allow multiple holds?
21:08 cait                 just the normal opac reserve page?
21:08 cait                 hmm
21:07 LeeJ                 though I know it's inherently wrong since the parents() call ends up applying to EVERY result
21:07 LeeJ                 cait: that's what I have so far
21:06 pastebot             "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sample jQuery prompt" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/641
21:04 LeeJ                 have a confirm when a patron clicks Place hold on the OPAC when the item is checked out
21:03 cait                 what exactly do you want ot do?
21:02 LeeJ                 cait: possibly...I'm trying to get jQuery to traverse HTML tags how I want but it's not working :P
20:58 cait                 LeeJ: do you still need someone to help with jQuery?
20:29 * LeeJ               shakes fist at jQuery
20:28 * magnuse            waves to LeeJ
20:28 * LeeJ               waves to magnuse
20:27 * magnuse            waves
20:27 * LeeJ               waves
20:24 * cait               waves
18:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , Change library news text for single-branch libraries
18:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19215 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , Typo in URL when editing a patron club template
18:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18927 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , koha-rebuild-zebra is failing with "error retrieving biblio"
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17834: Make translation easier
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17834: Change library news text for single-branch libraries
18:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11580 normal, P5 - low, ---, baptiste.wojtkowski, Pushed to Master , If returnBeforeExpiry is on, holidays are not taken into account to calculate the due date
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19215: Fixing typo in URL for patron clubs
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18927: Use fully qualified subroutine names in C4::Items
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11580: Add one more test and clear the cache
18:44 jenkins              * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11580 - Fix expiry calculation and rewrite tests
18:44 jenkins              Project Koha_Master_D8 build #251: FIXED in 2 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/251/
18:44 wahanui              o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:44 jenkins              Yippee, build fixed!
18:36 LeeJ                 anyone good with jquery around?
16:37 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17834: Make translation easier <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c6538f033f43cde33d186561a93a197467bd9a1> / Bug 17834: Change library news text for single-branch libraries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1417f83e8b8a57e70e9120244a36204cf4acb3c2> / Bug 19215: Fixing typo in URL for patron clubs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18919 minor, P5 - low, ---, baptiste.wojtkowski, Pushed to Stable , "Transaction Branch" select field broken in Cash register statistics
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18919: Repair "Transaction branch" in cash_register_stats.pl
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: [QA Follow-up] Mock config, default format
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049 [QA Followup] - Make plugin name first item in description
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19049 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Fix regression on stage-marc-import with to_marc plugin
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19053 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Auto renewal flag is not kept if a confirmation is needed
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: [Follow-up] Make sure that GetPlugins finds the plugin
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: Testing RecordsFromMarcPlugin with a to_marc plugin
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: Fix regression on stage-marc-import with to_marc plugin
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 19053: Keep auto_renew flag if a confirmation is needed
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Do not return 1 in tests
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: (followup) opac-authorities-home.tt uses 'any'
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18624 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Software error when searching authorities in Elasticsearch - incorrect parameter "any" should be "all"
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Run time errors when searching authorities with Elastic
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Regression test for 'any' vs 'all'
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16976 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Authorities searches with double quotes gives ZOOM error 20003
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Minor refactoring to ease testing
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 16976 - Unit tests
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 16976 - Authorities searches with double quotes gives ZOOM error
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: POST_CHOMP everywhere!
16:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18331 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , CSV exports need to be fixed once and for all
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Followup - fix path to orders_by_budget csv header
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Followup - Fix CSV export (once and for all!)
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Force tt to insert newline to empty_line.inc
16:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Fix CSV export (once and for all!)
16:36 jenkins              Project Koha_17.05.x_D8 build #13: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05.x_D8/13/
15:52 cait                 Joubu++
15:46 Joubu                alex_a: I am on it
15:42 alex_a               Joubu: please take a look at bz 11580
15:34 LeeJ                 FYI if I'm able to attend the meeting tonight I might be attending via IRC on my phone..but I'll be there nonetheless :P
15:33 LeeJ                 :O
15:32 oleonard             I craft bespoke roofs using artisanal materials.
15:30 LeeJ                 do you sell roofs and roof accessories?
15:29 oleonard             I set fire to my computer and became a roofer. I'm all about roofs now.
15:28 LeeJ                 cool
15:28 oleonard             No
15:28 LeeJ                 oleonard still having port problems?
15:22 reiveune             bye
15:16 wahanui              oleonard: what?
15:16 oleonard             wahanui: Grannie waiting for your postcard.
15:15 wahanui              oleonard: what?
15:15 oleonard             wahanui: Don't forget to send the mail
15:15 wahanui              cait: I forgot mail sent
15:15 cait                 forget mail sent
15:15 wahanui              mail sent is not working in koha 3.10
15:15 Joubu                mail sent
15:14 cait                 i will be travelling but it's ok
15:13 oleonard             Joubu: 13th works for me.
15:11 tcohen               oleonard: that issues are not problematic, it will set another port for ssh
15:10 Joubu                September 13th, 22UTC then?
15:08 cait                 2 meetings at once would make my brain explode :)
15:08 cait                 it's in the wrong spot (first wednesday of a month is always general meeting)
15:07 cait                 i think easier to push the dev meeting maybe
15:07 Joubu                ha
15:07 Joubu                still not sure
15:07 wahanui              i think Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
15:07 cait                 Joubu?
15:06 cait                 dev and general one, same time
15:06 cait                 has anyone seen that there is a collision about meetings tonight?
15:06 TGoat                hi cait!
15:06 cait                 hi TGoat
15:04 TGoat                good morning :)
15:01 * oleonard           is trying again
15:00 cait                 i have 2 kohadevbox instances so it was probably my fault
15:00 cait                 when i halted everything and restarted it was usually ok
15:00 cait                 oleonard: i had that happen to me too
14:52 oleonard             "The forwarded port to 2222 is already in use on the host machine"
14:52 oleonard             Anyone know why I would suddenly be having problems with port collisions with kohadevbox and another running vagrant box? I wasn't having this problem until this week
14:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996 [QA Followup] - Fix some minor whitespace issues
14:36 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18996 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , SIP sets ok flag to true for refused checkin for data corruption
14:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: [QA Follow-up] Remove global variables from Message.t
14:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Add checkin subtest in SIP/Message.t
14:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Resolve an uninitialized warning from ILS/Item.pm
14:36 jenkins              * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Handle data corruption from old_issues at SIP checkin
14:36 jenkins              Project Koha_17.05.x_D8 build #12: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.05.x_D8/12/
14:15 fridolin             Joubu: aoki
14:04 marcelr              Serials.t passes again with me; it did not expect changed Koha to MARC mappings for items..
14:03 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18927 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , koha-rebuild-zebra is failing with "error retrieving biblio"
14:03 Joubu                fridolin: you should add bug 18927 on your list of bugs to backport (not pushed yet)
13:54 tcohen               Joubu: I don't remember
13:53 Joubu                it makes sense, but people not knowing that will not be able to launch the tests using koha-testing-docker
13:52 Joubu                tcohen: do you remember why the rm cover_db is in the jenkins config?
13:52 marcelr              where is my bug swatter?
13:50 marcelr              really hopeful
13:50 wahanui              bug was last seen on #koha 9 seconds ago, saying: I am everywhere! [Wed Sep  6 13:50:19 2017]
13:50 Joubu                seen bug
13:50 marcelr              yeah i saw it
13:50 bug                  I am everywhere!
13:49 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Standardize the EXPORT
13:49 wahanui              I haven't seen 'bug', Joubu
13:49 Joubu                marcelr: seen bug 17600 comment 75, right? :)
13:48 marcelr              Joubu: your Items.pm fix is appreciated on the ml
13:46 tcohen               Joubu++
13:45 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Acquisition::Order should use Koha::Object
13:45 Joubu                tcohen: bug 19256
13:44 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , pod_spell.t does not work
13:43 Joubu                tcohen: bug 19262
13:40 LeeJ                 take care for now all..bbl
13:37 Joubu                but it will be hard to debug for you :)
13:37 Joubu                yes sure
13:37 marcelr              would be nice if those tests ignored my bad data..
13:36 marcelr              Joubu: could be data yes, test machine
13:36 wahanui              hmmm... kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
13:36 marcelr              kohadevbox
13:35 marcelr              hmm not on a devbox
13:35 tcohen               (save the DB first!)
13:35 tcohen               marcelr: does it fail if you do a reset_all?
13:35 Joubu                certainly a data "problem"
13:34 marcelr              #   Failed test 'Values should not be erased on editing' #   at Serials.t line 174.
13:33 marcelr              no Serials for breakfast ;)
13:33 tcohen               marcelr: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/
13:32 marcelr              yeah just interference
13:32 tcohen               marcelr: Joubu refers to the tests being ran in docker containers instead of the old plain VM
13:32 marcelr              will still have a look on it
13:32 marcelr              i had it failing on my vm
13:31 wahanui              somebody said serials.t was failing
13:31 Joubu                serials.t?
13:31 Joubu                serials.t is not failing
13:31 wahanui              i think serials.t is failing
13:31 Joubu                serials.t?
13:31 tcohen               that woudl be a refinement step
13:31 wahanui              Serials.t is probably failing
13:31 marcelr              Joubu: And Serials.t ?
13:30 Joubu                t/Budgets.t .................................................... ok    25627 ms
13:30 Joubu                vs
13:30 Joubu                t/Budgets.t .................................................... ok    13648 ms
13:30 Joubu                and
13:30 Joubu                a
13:30 tcohen               Joubu: will try to fix it after lunch
13:28 tcohen               saw it, they failed for me during my flight
13:28 Joubu                tcohen: search tests are still failing :-/
13:22 tcohen               LOL
13:22 LeeJ                 READMEs are for people with free time ;D
13:21 tcohen               I missed it at some point
13:21 tcohen               the README has it
13:21 LeeJ                 I see it now
13:21 LeeJ                 OOH
13:21 tcohen               ah
13:21 LeeJ                 I've only ever seen it listed with the hyphenated flag
13:21 tcohen               I guess is upper on the vagrant docs?
13:21 LeeJ                 didn't know that...
13:21 LeeJ                 O.o
13:20 tcohen               when there's vagrant provision (shorter)
13:20 LeeJ                 nor do I
13:20 tcohen               yeah, I don't understand why people prefer vagrant up --provision
13:20 tcohen               hehe
13:20 LeeJ                 I made it myself after wizzyrea was helping me explain kohadevbox to pianohacker yesterday and it gave me inspiration when she said you can use vagrant up --provision if you bork up the devbox
13:19 * LeeJ               bows
13:18 tcohen               I like it
13:18 tcohen               hehe
13:18 tcohen               :-D
13:18 tcohen               :-S
13:18 wahanui              it has been said that such vagrant is https://imgur.com/ehoae99\
13:18 LeeJ                 such vagrant?
13:17 LeeJ                 tcohen: not sure if you saw us do it, but wizzyrea and I created something yesterday that I think you'd appreciate
13:15 tcohen               we need a registration form
13:14 tcohen               bummer
13:14 Joubu                tcohen: I did not receive any of them
13:13 tcohen               (including Chile people)
13:13 tcohen               Joubu: good answers to the call for a hackfest in Argentina
13:12 tcohen               hi Joubu
13:11 LeeJ                 haha didn't know wahanui spoke French :P
13:07 marcelr              hello Joubu
13:07 wahanui              bonjour, Joubu
13:07 Joubu                hi
13:04 marcelr              fridolin++
13:03 fridolin             #peaceandlove
13:03 fridolin             but I'm happy to do it for the community
13:02 fridolin             RMaint is a hard work sometimes
13:02 fridolin             yep I see, thanks for your help
13:01 marcelr              but you dont need it
13:01 marcelr              that was a nasty bug
13:01 fridolin             ah oki
13:01 marcelr              no the last followup on 17680
13:01 fridolin             marcelr: the last followup ? not [QA Followup] - Fix some minor whitespace issues ?
13:00 marcelr              i confirm that the dependency was only needed on master
13:00 marcelr              you managed to do so, i understand
12:59 fridolin             i'm trying to rebase on 17.05.x without bug 17680
12:59 fridolin             marcelr: oki thanks for the warning
12:58 marcelr              fridolin: i suspect that you do not need it but safety first..
12:58 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, C4::Circulation - Replace GetItemIssue with Koha::Checkouts
12:58 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18996 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , SIP sets ok flag to true for refused checkin for data corruption
12:58 marcelr              fridolin: bug 18996 and its dependency on bug 17680: have a look at the last followup dt_from_string failing silently
12:56 marcelr              fridolin around ?
12:56 marcelr              great
12:56 LeeJ                 will test it sometime today..trying to get stuff done before class and our annual picnic :D
12:56 LeeJ                 mhm
12:55 marcelr              which got me confused somehow
12:55 LeeJ                 marcelr: agreed. That's why I wanted to check with you first before I did anything. Just noticed now that Kyle uploaded a more recent patch but there's no attachment comment in the comments
12:53 marcelr              i agree that these comments are confusing btw
12:53 marcelr              LeeJ: you can test that one; if you signoff, i hope to qa it this week
12:52 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15438 critical, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Checking out an on-hold item sends holder's borrowernumber in AF (screen message) field.
12:52 LeeJ                 marcelr: question...what's up with Bug 15438? it's marked NSO but I can't tell if I should hold off on testing because it looked like you were waiting for an updated patch?
12:50 tcohen               morning
12:49 marcelr              hi LeeJ
12:49 LeeJ                 hi marcelr
12:43 marcelr              hi #koha
12:40 LeeJ                 I just wanted to find an AJAX example to reference..I think I'm gonna play around with it and see what breaks :)
12:39 LeeJ                 I should have clarified that the call to the server is via TCP socket
12:38 oleonard             Browsers have restrictions on cross-domain AJAX operations, so you may run into trouble.
12:37 LeeJ                 I already have the server talking with Koha one-way..this would be to get it communicating both ways
12:37 LeeJ                 our Koha is hosted by BWS..the server is on my campus in the library
12:36 oleonard             Same domain?
12:36 LeeJ                 yes
12:35 oleonard             So communicating between Koha and another server?
12:34 LeeJ                 oleonard: it's basically for my main responsibility at work. The short version would be "patron confirms place hold on OPAC, script gets called, triggers my external server which returns a response code to the script"
12:31 oleonard             What's your plan?
12:31 LeeJ                 oleonard: I knew I came to the right UI guru :)
12:30 LeeJ                 oleonard + 10
12:28 oleonard             ysearch.pl, although that's probably the oldest example
12:28 cait                 oleonard++ :)
12:27 oleonard             AJAX? Yes. Patron autocomplete, for instance.
12:26 LeeJ                 oleonard: are there any existing examples of calling a Perl script from jQuery in Koha?
12:26 oleonard             yes
12:26 LeeJ                 oleonard: around?
11:49 LeeJ                 hi #koha
11:49 * LeeJ               waves
11:44 fridolin             magnuse: bonjour à toi
11:43 fridolin             oki cool thanks
10:35 cait                 fridolin: 18996, 8331, 16976, 18624, 19053, 19049, 18919
10:35 magnuse              fridolin++ cait++
10:25 cait                 can't access right now, but if you start at where you left off you probably get to them soon
10:24 * fridolin           not yet out of holidays
10:24 fridolin             cait: ouch im lost in my mails, could you get them and mail me, it's more secure
10:23 cait                 and thx!
10:22 cait                 they cover most of it
10:22 cait                 that he listed additionally to the security ones
10:22 cait                 the bugs from Joubu's email
10:20 fridolin             cait: if you want some to be priority, send me email
10:20 fridolin             cait: yep i'm late on push but im on it now
10:16 cait                 fridolin: can you push some bug fixes this week maybe? there are quite a few mean ones waiting and I need some time extra in case they don't apply (and travelling next week)
10:15 cait                 ah sorry
10:11 wahanui              fridolin: i haven't a clue
10:11 fridolin             wahanui: im online ?
10:10 fridolin             cait:  ?
10:02 fridolin             cait: yep hie
09:53 cait                 fridolin: around?
09:40 alex_a_              Joubu: around?
08:47 magnuse              great!
08:46 andreashm            magnuse: I think it's open for everyone, but I'll let you know.
08:45 magnuse              kia ora eythian
08:45 eythian              hi
08:44 andreashm            We discussed that, but not sure what we agreed on.
08:44 andreashm            Yup, I know.
08:43 magnuse              it doesn't say anywhere that vendors are excluded
08:42 andreashm            I think it will be. Need to double-check though.
08:41 magnuse              sure, if it is open to vendors?
08:41 magnuse              http://koha.se/koha-i-sverige/inbjudan-till-svenska-kohanatverkets-forsta-hackfest-i-lund-29-november-2017/
08:40 andreashm            wanna come?
08:40 andreashm            magnuse: yes!
08:37 magnuse              ooh, hackfest in Lund!
08:37 magnuse              tjänare andreashm
08:36 andreashm            hej magnuse
08:28 * magnuse            waves
08:24 fridolin             #coffeeeeeeee
08:24 fridolin             hie tehre
07:29 * andreashm          waves
07:19 gaetan_B             hello
06:41 reiveune             hello
06:33 alex_a               bonjour
06:21 huginn               cait: The operation succeeded.
06:21 cait                 @later tell kidclamp general and dev meeting overlapping today?
01:40 wizzyrea             np good luck
01:39 rkl                  noted on that. thank you so much for your help wizzyrea!
01:38 wizzyrea             rkl ^
01:38 wizzyrea             and that would get the usernames.
01:38 wizzyrea             but you can select username from borrowers;
01:37 wizzyrea             the passwords are one way encrypted.
01:37 wizzyrea             you can't get the passwords
01:35 rkl                  which SQL report should i run?
01:35 rkl                  hello everyone. I would like to ask is there any way for me to get list of username and password of my patrons?