Time Nick Message 03:24 amitgupta hi all 06:44 * magnuse waves 06:45 magnuse pianohacker is back?!? 06:50 alex_a bonjour 07:29 amitgupta hi alex_a 07:30 alex_a hello amitgupta 10:04 * cait waves 10:06 * magnuse waves 10:26 cait :) 11:41 * cait waves at Joubu 11:41 Joubu hi cait, #koha 11:51 marcelr hi #koha 11:51 Joubu Hi marcelr 11:51 marcelr o/ 11:51 * cait waves 12:13 magnuse tcohen++ for looking after kohadevbox 12:28 oleonard Hi all 12:32 cait hi oleonard :) 12:39 magnuse hiya oleonard 12:42 oleonard [off] bestbookbuddies digging themselves deeper into that hole... 12:44 cait [off] emailing again? 12:45 magnuse [off] not on the list? 12:46 Joubu any ideas how I could communicate the list of support companies I am going to remove from the website? 12:46 oleonard [off] Oh I guess not. A reply to my message on the list but directly to me and Joubu 12:49 cait Joubu: hm 12:49 cait I'd email them directly, maybe with wizzyrea cc as maintainer of the list? 12:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19003: Add a TestBuilder default for borrowers.login_attempts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bb56bf336187cde38e1a3b89c792ee6dc231acf> / Bug 17699: Reset time simulation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0853c4e2b4366a235077a24a873fc81a754afecb> / Bug 17699: Add test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec9b691de934 12:51 Joubu cait: I'd like to remove them because they never answered and they do not have a "valid" website 12:53 cait yeah, I'd email them they are being removed becasue ... 12:53 cait so they have been informed 12:54 cait ah, you mean the list to the list 12:54 cait not sure about that 12:58 tcohen hi 13:01 magnuse hiya tcohen 13:01 tcohen has anyone tried the remote debugger? :-D 13:02 magnuse tcohen: nope, not sure how that works... 13:03 tcohen basically you have an editor/IDE capable of remote debugging, and then launch plack with the new alias I added to kohadevbox, and it starts a debugging session on your IDE/Editor 13:03 tcohen you should first set breakpoints and things like that 13:04 tcohen then launch koha_debug_plack 13:04 tcohen sorry, the alias is 13:04 tcohen plack_debug_start 13:07 magnuse ah, my IDE of choice is gedit... ;-) 13:07 tcohen https://github.com/addiks/gedit-dbgp-plugin 13:12 magnuse heh, thanks! 13:12 tcohen the great thing is that you can spot execution, inspect variables and even evaluate expressions 13:13 tcohen but people still prefer Dumper I think :-D 13:13 magnuse good ol' Dumper :-) 13:14 magnuse in other news i'm slowly getting my head around Ansible 13:14 magnuse and I'm wondering if we should make a Koha role 13:15 tcohen magnuse: koha-common role, and koha-instance? 13:16 magnuse yes please :-) 13:16 magnuse and kohadevbox could add stuff on top of that, i guess 13:17 tcohen magnuse: yes, kohadevbox could be refactored 13:17 magnuse i'm looking to manage both the koha apache config and koha-conf.xml with Ansible, to make it feasible to keep up with changes to those 13:18 magnuse but that might be out of scope for a role 13:18 magnuse bug 12584 13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12584 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-conf.xml for package installations get out of sync 13:18 tcohen hm 13:19 magnuse i see ansible managing koha-conf.xml as a way around that 13:19 tcohen kohadevbox uses a template 13:19 tcohen which needs to be kept in sync 13:19 magnuse yup 13:26 cait bbiab 13:36 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-plack-err is flooded with this message" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/576 13:36 oleonard ^^ Is this a problem? 13:47 Joubu oleonard: looks like yes, how did you get that? 13:48 oleonard I don't know :| 13:48 Joubu :) 13:49 tcohen oleonard: is that a stretch box? 13:49 oleonard No, Jessie 13:50 tcohen I saw that when there was a Mojolicious version missmatch 13:52 oleonard Oh okay that's probably because of some patch testing I did yesterday. 13:52 lari oleonard: it happens when you test Bug 18137 and install its dependencies, and then revert back to master but still have the newer version of Mojolicious 13:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Passed QA , REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI 14:05 caboose hi..if I wanted to modify what gets displayed in the search results RSS field, what file(s) should I look at? 14:10 tcohen caboose: opac-opensearch.tt 14:10 caboose thank you1 14:11 caboose you are the best tcohen 14:29 * cait waves 14:29 cait @later tell LeeJ ping 14:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 14:36 cait ok, what are you all thinking... needs sign-off down to 100 by the end of the week? :) 14:37 lari is there any reason issuingrules.branchcode, -.categorycode and -.itemtype default value is "" and not "*" ? or what does it mean when one of those is "" ? 14:37 cait hm has no meaning that i know of 14:37 cait as any is using * 14:52 Joubu lari: yes, must be '*' 14:57 cait maybe the reason as so often is 'historical' 14:58 lari ok, thanks :) 15:01 jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:01 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:01 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #236: FIXED in 2 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/236/ 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19041: (bug 17855 follow-up) Fix regression on bug 16058 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19048: (bug 17829 follow-up) Fix regression in self checkout 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: Database handler must not be created at runtime 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: Test::DBIx::Class is not needed in 00-load.t 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: Tests must be skipped in cardnumber.t if Test::DBIx::Class is 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: Make OverDrive.T pass if dbms is not running 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: Fix few other tests 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18851: (QA followup) Test doesn't need sessions on DB 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19013: Fix borrowers.guarantorid in sammple_patrons.sql 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19013: (QA followup) Set guarantorid to NULL patron sample data 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19041 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , footerjs = 1 removed by bug 17855 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17855 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, New onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha, and minor web installer UI improvements 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18802: Fix Circulation.t if finesMode ne 'production' 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19009: Fix random failures from Circulation.t 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17699: Add more tests to highlight the problem 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17699: Use limit as end_of_month 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a button to delete an individual news item 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19048 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Self checkout: Internal server error in sco-main.pl 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17699: Add test descriptions 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17699: Reset time simulation 15:01 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19003: Add a TestBuilder default for borrowers.login_attempts 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move GetMember to Koha::Patron 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18851 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , use Test::DBIx::Class in tests breaks packaging 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19013 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sample_data.sql inserts patrons with guarantorid that do not exist 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18802 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation.t fails if finesMode != "Do not calculate" 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19009 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation.t is still failing randomly 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DateTime durations are not correctly subtracted 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19003 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Add a TestBuilder default for borrowers.login_attempts 15:18 Joubu @later tell wizzyrea could you add a "2017" entries on http://meetings.koha-community.org ? 15:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:19 Joubu @later tell wizzyrea could you add 2014-2017 entries on http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017? 15:19 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 17:01 khall @later tell tcohen can you add 15707 / 16735 to your qa todo list? 17:01 huginn khall: The operation succeeded. 17:16 pianohacker @later tell magnuse hi :) 17:16 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 17:21 pianohacker bam 17:24 cait hey pianohacker 17:24 wahanui regexes are AWESOME 17:27 cait that email on the list has probably the longest english sentence i have seen so far:) 17:28 pianohacker my own about a subset of the staff? Damn straight I can wield a semicolon 17:29 cait second sentence in the other about marc frameworks 17:29 cait but i am sure you can :) 17:29 pianohacker oh my god 17:29 pianohacker yeah, you're right :) 17:55 tcohen back 17:57 cait hi tcohen 18:12 oleonard Hi pianohacker 18:13 pianohacker hi, oleonard :) 18:18 talljoy seriously cait 18:18 cait huh? 18:18 talljoy long sentence 18:18 cait yep 18:19 talljoy i missed the cat conversation the other day pianohacker 18:19 talljoy and i am quite upset. 18:19 cait :( 18:19 pianohacker talljoy: :) just picked her up a couple days ago; have a couple pics on facebook 18:20 talljoy shes very cute. 18:20 pianohacker she's adorable as all get out, though 7 years with a neurotic dog kind of rubbed off on her 18:21 talljoy oh wow. 18:22 pianohacker yeah, either she's habitually spooked or my apartment is FULL of ghosts 18:23 magnuse kia ora pianohacker! 18:23 magnuse welcome back! :-) 18:23 pianohacker hi magnuse :) 18:24 magnuse :-) 18:32 cait [off] mailing list :( 18:36 tcohen [off] don't feel bad for that, things like that happen 18:49 oleonard [off] This guy is certainly not setting out to make any friends 18:50 oleonard [off] Not exactly good advertising for himself 18:51 cait [off] i think the only thing they are achieving right now is making themselves look worse 19:08 indradg cait, oleonard : [off] he is "legend" when it comes to indulging in this sort of behaviour. I've known him personally since 2003 onwards. 19:09 cait [off] wonder if this is a cultural thing... I should not have to tell him how to properly do advertising 19:09 eythian [off] which list, sounds like interesting reading 19:09 cait [off] koha main 19:09 eythian Ta 19:10 cait [off] just noticed... last email was sent to me directly 19:12 Joubu [off] The library hereby permits the BBB, irrevocably, to enable BBB to place advertisements on its pages, so the BBB can recover its investment and maintenance 19:12 Joubu [off] costs 19:12 Joubu between "quotes" :) 19:17 Joubu [off] http://iari.bestbookbuddies.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=119886&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20d 19:17 Joubu [off] "It looks like you're using an ad blocker. That's okay. Who doesn't?" 19:17 cait [off] ugh 19:19 Joubu [off] Koha 3.1211000 19:19 cait [off] updates for ever? 19:20 cait [off] going back to testing... 19:20 eythian [off] "Best Viewed in 1024 x 768 pixel resolution." well that takes me back 10-15 years 19:22 indradg [off] he is monetizing the user's metadata as infowords and posing that it is free. This sort of behaviour in EU might attract a steep fine, but in India we do not have a real data privacy law in place. 19:23 eythian Ick 19:23 indradg [off] also once you host the BBB platform apparently (as explained by Sudhir himself in a flamefest) you can't roll back your data from his platform 19:23 indradg [off] and he is doing all this using the name of Koha 19:24 cait [off] :( 19:24 eythian [off] reminds me of a certain other company that rhymes with PTFS (US) 19:24 oleonard [off] As I understand it the message violates US law by not including an unsubscribe link. FWIW. 19:24 indradg cait: [off] no its not a cultural thing, UCE (aka spam) is a criminal offence in India 19:26 cait [off] I don't even have words... 19:26 indradg [off] also by dangling the carrot of "free" hosting forever, he is also effective killing off an possibility for Indian devs or a *real* koha eco-system to come up 19:26 magnuse [off] indradg: i think you need to put [off] at the beginning of the line for it to work 19:26 Joubu [off] indradg from the terms and conditions: "BBB will provide a graphical menu/button for the 19:26 Joubu libraryÂadministrator to download the data of his/her 19:27 Joubu [off] library at any time. 19:27 Joubu erk 19:27 indradg [off] Joubu yes, copy aye! deletion from BBB servers nope 19:28 Joubu [off] they said "not be sold/shared with any third party" 19:28 Joubu anyway, let's back to work right? :) 19:29 indradg [off] Joubu yeah right! and Bill Gates is my granddad 19:29 Joubu you should stop working then ;) 19:29 indradg [off] they are loading each institution's data onto their internal z39.50 so it is already shared with 3rd parties 19:29 indradg lol 19:30 oleonard Bye all 19:44 Joubu tcohen: around? 19:44 tcohen around 19:45 Joubu tcohen: when 18137 will be pushed, the restart of plack will fail, because of the missing deps. Should I add a new "updatedb entry" or we assume that master is for devs only and they know what they are doing? 19:45 Joubu i.e. they will know what to do 19:45 Joubu I cannot remember if we already had that case (I guess yes) 19:46 cait hm i think we had other cases where a dependency was added and som epage exploded without it 19:46 tcohen I think you need to make sure Mirko has added the new versions 19:46 tcohen to the repo 19:46 tcohen I can temporarily fix it in kohadevbox and we can tell people to re-provision 19:46 tcohen (if the packages are available) 19:47 tcohen but as soon as master is updated,, the koha-common package and deps are updated too 19:47 tcohen should be straightforward 19:47 Joubu t/db_dependent/api/v1/swagger/definitions.t .. Can't locate object method "cache_dir" via package "Swagger2::SchemaValidator" at /usr/share/perl5/Swagger2.pm line 41. 19:47 Joubu `perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m` does not report something related to mojo 19:48 cait hm btw 19:48 cait the plack error logs are not looking good 19:48 cait i left them open and there is...lots 19:49 Joubu cait: what errors? 19:49 wahanui errors are in the Koha log file, on the server 19:49 cait Mojo::Util::slurp is DEPRECATED in favor of Mojo::File::slurp at /usr/share/perl5/Swagger2.pm line 38. 19:49 tcohen Joubu: are you on the right versions? 19:49 cait CGI::param called in list context from package CGI::Compile::ROOT::home_vagrant_kohaclone_cataloguing_automatic_linker_2epl line 65, this can lead to vulnerabilities. See the warning in "Fetching the value or values of a single named parameter" at /usr/share/perl5/CGI.pm line 436. 19:50 cait stuff like this 19:50 cait i will keep an eye on it 19:50 Joubu Mojolicious 7.21 7.21 Yes 19:50 Joubu Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI 1.15 1.15 Yes 19:55 tcohen let me check it myself 20:09 Joubu cait: could you comment bug 17277 please? 20:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17277 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Current Location column in Holdings table showing empty under OPAC 20:24 cait hm sorry, I think i am missing something 20:24 cait in kohadevbox, where do i find the koha-conf.xml? 20:27 tcohen cait: /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml 20:28 cait thx! 20:28 cait trying to test bug 11317 20:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Add a way to access files from the intranet 20:36 rangi hello 20:40 Joubu cait: locate is your friend! 20:40 cait i should learn how to use linux someday :) 20:40 rangi stop influencing! 20:40 rangi ;-) 20:40 cait heh 20:45 jfowler Hey guys. Totally new to Koha. I got the stable set up and running using the latest stable Ubuntu packages and it was working fine until today. Now the search function isn't working. It's throwing the following ---> oAuth error: Connect failed (10000) 20:46 rangi what page do you get that on? 20:46 eythian rangi: hello. 20:46 rangi and are you using oAuth ? 20:46 rangi eythian: heya :) how's things ? 20:46 jfowler I'm not getting it on a page. I getting it in the log files for the OPAC. On the page, I just get 0 results 20:47 rangi ahh 20:47 rangi i suspect zebra isnt running 20:47 rangi can you do a sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart 20:47 rangi and see if that fixes it 20:47 eythian rangi: good! I spent the past 5 days camping at SHA2017 20:48 eythian https://goo.gl/photos/yECApEi99foDH98q7 <-- SHA photos 20:48 rangi eythian: oooh cool! 20:48 rangi eythian: what a neat idea 20:48 eythian Got back today. Tomorrow yapc starts in Amsterdam. At 9am :/ 20:48 jfowler Wow. Thanks! That did it! 20:48 eythian It was great fun 20:49 rangi jfowler: i think it was logrotate + anacron causing the problem 20:49 eythian Went to some talks, but mostly hung out with interesting people 20:49 jfowler Gotcha. I really appreciate your help. 20:49 rangi jfowler: monit is a good tool to keep an eye on things and start them again 20:50 jfowler What is monitoring? 20:50 wahanui monitoring is probably on the roadmap :) 20:50 rangi monit 20:50 jfowler monit? 20:50 wahanui monit is probably a good tool to keep an eye on things and start them again 20:50 rangi 2 secs 20:50 rangi https://packages.debian.org/jessie/admin/monit 20:50 rangi if you sudo apt-get install monit 20:50 jfowler Ahh. Gotcha. Thanks. You've been a huge help. 20:50 jfowler Bye. 20:52 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "monit zebra config" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/578 20:52 rangi eythian: hanging with people is always the best bit 20:52 eythian Definitely 20:54 eythian Reminded me that I really need to convert my NZ amateur radio license to an NL one, we had a repeater on a crane right beside where I was sleeping. 20:54 rangi ohh cool 20:55 eythian Unfortunately, I couldn't legally use it. 20:56 eythian Also have a new project involving developing a carrier independent version of LoRa. 20:56 eythian hi magnuse 20:56 wahanui kamelÃ¥sÃ¥ 20:56 eythian magnuse: someone said kamelÃ¥sÃ¥ to me yesterday. 20:56 magnuse kia ora eythian 20:56 magnuse they did? 20:56 eythian Not kidding 20:57 eythian They were Danish 20:57 magnuse i thought that was just a nowegian thing! 20:57 magnuse oh, they were? 20:57 eythian Yeah. 20:58 eythian In the Scandinavian village, beside the naked Finns 20:58 eythian So many naked Finns 20:58 magnuse lulz? 20:58 eythian (they brought a sauna) 20:58 magnuse ah 20:58 cait of course 20:58 magnuse scandinavian village? 20:59 eythian I was at https://sha2017.org/ 20:59 indradg @wunder kolkata 20:59 huginn indradg: Error: No such location could be found. 21:01 rangi wunder is down at the mo 21:02 indradg rangi: i see 21:02 magnuse eythian: cool 21:02 eythian https://sha2017.org/ 21:03 eythian Err 21:03 eythian https://goo.gl/photos/yECApEi99foDH98q7 magnuse, photos m 21:03 eythian None of the sauna though. Alas. 21:04 magnuse i'll survive 21:04 magnuse ;-) 21:04 * magnuse needs his beautysleep, though 21:04 magnuse have fun, #koha 21:05 rangi cya magnuse 21:07 eythian Later 21:36 Joubu bye #koha 22:05 barton hats off to Marco Moreno -- nice bit of detective work on Bug 17717. 22:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, chris, REOPENED , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm