Time  Nick        Message
21:06 tcohen      bad_paul
20:52 pianohacker byeeeee
20:23 LeeJ        well have a good weekend all...I might pop in at some point to do work :)
20:22 LeeJ        cait: yayyyy!
20:15 pianohacker excellent.
20:15 * cait      is on vacation now! squee!
20:15 pianohacker hi cait!
20:15 cait        hi pianohacker :)
20:15 pianohacker shalom
19:58 barton      I'll file a bug to remove that.
19:58 barton      jcamins: here's iformation from columbia: "Z39.50 users: Access to CLIO via the Z39.50 protocol is now restricted to on-campus use. For information about using Z39.50 to search CLIO, please see: http://library.columbia.edu/find/clio/classic-help/z3950.html"
19:56 wahanui     live is life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life.
19:56 barton      live?
19:55 barton      ... or so says the person I was chatting with in their web chat window.
19:55 wahanui     i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:55 jcamins     Interesting.
19:54 barton      jcamins: looks like they were getting farmed by bots; they've put their server behind a vpn.
19:52 jcamins     I first started getting them timing out in April. I didn't realize they were a default.
19:51 jcamins     barton: they've been down for several months, I think.
19:39 barton      (or be helpful to columbia and tell them that their server is down).
19:39 barton      This is obviously something on columbia's side, I'm just wondering if we need to find out if this is a permanent situation and remove that from the list.
19:37 barton      Hey all, Columbia university is one of the default z39.50 servers in koha, listed as clio-db.cc.columbia.edu:7090 -- is rejecting requests after connection... I can connect via telnet or yaz-client, but then I get an immediate message of Target closed connection
19:37 huginn      LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:37 LeeJ        @later tell Joubu I added that follow up to 18331 like you wanted..should be good to go now! Let me know if we need to do more on it
19:05 mtompset    Have a good day, #koha khall LeeJ tcohen
19:05 mtompset    Greetings, khall
19:03 mtompset    you may need to tweak your /etc/hosts to create a dummy URL for the export KOHA_INTRANET_URL= and export KOHA_OPAC_URL=
19:02 mtompset    LeeJ: Could you confirm that t/db_dependent/www/search_utf8.t fails with wide print related messages?
18:53 oleonard    Happy weekend, #koha.
18:35 mtompset    Thanks. LeeJ++
18:35 LeeJ        mtompset: there ya go bud
18:28 LeeJ        mtompset: I can do that
18:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19042 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Letters.t
18:27 mtompset    LeeJ: Want an easy sign off? bug 19042
17:42 LeeJ        ahh...I'm hoping to get back into the normal swing of things next week
17:41 mtompset    sitting at the local library.
17:41 mtompset    No no... still doing work for my organization, but remotely on a work laptop.
17:41 LeeJ        mtompset: oooh..sounded like you were working for them :P
17:40 mtompset    Ah, distracted. I know that problem.
17:40 tcohen      on the previous one
17:39 tcohen      yes, I had a followup but then oleonard noticed something nastier
17:39 mtompset    Add that, and I'll test and sign off. :)
17:39 tcohen      ah
17:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add 'shelving location' to holdings table in detail page
17:39 mtompset    bug 19028
17:39 mtompset    tcohen: I just noticed, you forgot to tweak sysprefs.sql
17:35 oleonard    mtompset: We're using Omeka as a repository for digitized local history materials.
17:34 mtompset    oleonard: I noticed... I am about to lose 3rd place, last I checked.
17:33 tcohen      back
17:33 wahanui     i guess Omeka is really quite different from DSpace, IMO, though.
17:33 mtompset    Omeka?
17:32 oleonard    Did some signing off. Now I'm working on customizing an Omeka theme.
17:32 mtompset    I wish tests ran faster. *sigh*
17:31 mtompset    oleonard: Perhaps. How goes things with you? What fun are you having today?
17:31 oleonard    I think LeeJ was just making conversation mtompset
17:30 mtompset    Sorry if I was unclear.
17:29 mtompset    I'm talking about doing my software development here.
17:29 mtompset    Mine isn't.
17:29 LeeJ        mtompset: nice! Unfortunately all my local libraries are in consortiums so none of them would ever be on Koha :P
17:25 mtompset    LeeJ: Now I'm having fun working on library software (Koha) in my local public library for 2 hours. Just grinding away at refactoring GetMarcBiblio
17:01 mtompset    Greetings, #koha
16:27 cait        oleonard: thx!!
16:14 mtompset    Have a good day, #koha oleonard cait TGoat rocio kmlussier
15:52 oleonard    cait:  ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelay ?
15:44 mtompset    Sorry, I don't know, cait.
15:41 cait        hm what's the system preference dealing with automatically cancellig holds that haven't bene picked up?
15:39 mtompset    Does anyone know if misc/migration_tools/22_to_30/missing090field.pl is still useful?
15:11 Joubu       bye
15:11 Joubu       I do not have time to submit a patch I meant
15:11 oleonard    Blah.
15:11 Joubu       have a good week-end #koha
15:11 Joubu       I do not have time to fill it, have to run
15:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19041 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , footerjs = 1 removed by bug 17855
15:10 Joubu       bug 19041
15:07 Joubu       ok will do
15:07 oleonard    Sorry Joubu I don't know what you mean
15:06 Joubu       oleonard: did you open the bug report about the footerjs missing in intranet-main.tt?
15:03 mtompset    But. I. Must. Not. Bunny. Trail....
15:02 mtompset    SWEET! My refactor might actually enable a FIXME and TODO to be done in C4/Labels. :)
15:01 TGoat       howdy mtompset :)
15:01 mtompset    Greetings, TGoat
15:01 mtompset    Though, I kind of like the idea of trashing it.
15:01 TGoat       good morning :)
15:00 mtompset    Actually, I think a bunch of people from India might cry if ISBDview was thrown in the trashbin.
14:58 cait        but will be around too
14:58 cait        will be on holiday the next 2 weeks
14:58 fridolin    dont h├ęsitate to email me on biblire adresse
14:58 fridolin    oleonard: thanks a lot, they are most welcome
14:58 cait        ok - have happy holidays :)
14:58 fridolin    cait: yep no pb
14:57 oleonard    Happy holidays fridolin
14:57 cait        fridolin: do you still plan to release on 22nd?
14:57 tcohen      XSLT too :-D Template::Toolkit for the win!
14:57 cait        tried to change something there recently *shivers*
14:57 Joubu       fridolin: ok, I will @later you if something is needed
14:57 cait        agree about the isbd view
14:57 fridolin    ISBD view needs to be send to trashbin ;)
14:56 fridolin    see u
14:56 fridolin    cait: Joubu : I'll be on holidays this month so less on chan, i'll keep doing RMaint occasionnaly
14:47 tcohen      thanks, again!
14:47 tcohen      should be simple then
14:47 tcohen      ah!
14:47 oleonard    Two tables, two configurations I assume
14:47 tcohen      I'm surprised it is affected
14:46 oleonard    Yeah :(
14:46 tcohen      and, ouch!
14:46 tcohen      oleonard: thx for the pointer!
14:38 mtompset    But it isn't an easy task.
14:38 mtompset    The opac-detail, opac-MARCdetail, and opac-ISBDdetail all need a good refactor.
14:38 mtompset    *laugh*
14:37 cait        oleonard: ouch
14:37 oleonard    Maybe it would be easier to calculate all possible permutations of all possible system preferences and create 950 different templates for opac-detail.tt
14:37 mtompset    Though, as I noted, I did not test.
14:37 cait        mtompset: thx, pls leave a note on the bug, i will see it later
14:37 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18633 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Logs are full of CGI::param called in list context - itemsearch.pl
14:37 mtompset    cait: I just reworked bug 18633 for you.
14:31 oleonard    tcohen: Bad news:  OpacSeparateHoldings and OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch exist. :(
14:25 mtompset    I would, but it's really hard. :P
14:25 tcohen      mtompset: stop hooking C4 code :-D
14:24 mtompset    Looks like I'll be doing another today.
14:24 mtompset    I already had to refactor parameters for one function.
14:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Extend OpacHiddenItems to allow specifying exempt borrower categories
14:24 mtompset    Don't worry... I might get to that as part of bug 14385.
14:24 mtompset    Ah... there is that problem too.
14:23 tcohen      so...
14:23 tcohen      mtompset: opac-detail.pl is calling GetItemData directly
14:22 mtompset    tcohen: GetMarcBiblio is not passing the $opac parameter.
14:21 * mtompset  grumbles about lack of proper parameter passing.
14:21 mtompset    did someone say opac-detail?
14:15 tcohen      currently, opac-detail.pl is not respecting MARC framworks-defined visibility for items at all
14:14 cait        sorry, just something i have been thinking about and failed to put on the bug in an understandable way so far :(
14:14 cait        there is also the visibility settings in the marc freameworks, not sure how they factor in or should factor in
14:14 cait        just thiking that if you mark something hidden and not toggable, there should be no way to make it visible
14:13 cait        not visible in opac now, visible on checkout and hceckin... knowing libraries, they probably got creatvie :)
14:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
14:13 tcohen      sorry, bug 16759
14:13 cait        oleonard: note fields, materials note for example
14:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, [OMNIBUS] Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
14:13 tcohen      bug 16579 itself is not changing the sysprefs removing stuff behaviour
14:12 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19038 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Remove OPACShowBarcode syspref
14:12 tcohen      cait: you're talking about bug 19038 and possible followup for remaining sysprefs?
14:10 oleonard    cait: What would you consider sensitive?
14:09 cait        so filtering before it hits the template woudl be good i think
14:09 cait        tcohen: i wanted to answer your question on the bug... i think we should be careful not to display sensitive information and libraries have been used to the field snot visible in OPAC so might have done all kinds of things
14:09 tcohen      if you can fix it, go for it! otherwise leave a comment on the bug!
14:08 tcohen      oleonard: it isn't!
14:05 oleonard    tcohen: Still on 16579, why does the new configuration disable sorting on the last column? Is that intentional?
13:58 LeeJ        and working on writing a follow up for a patch Joubu asked for a look at
13:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, ASSIGNED , Purchase Suggestion Submission Notice
13:55 LeeJ        mtompset: a request from one of our librarians Bug 19031
13:53 mtompset    What's your fun today, LeeJ?
13:52 mtompset    Greetings, LeeJ. My fun today: refactor more function parameters.
13:52 * LeeJ      waves to mtompset
13:51 huginn      mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 30 seconds ago: <aleisha> same and same
13:51 mtompset    @seen aleisha
13:50 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
13:44 LeeJ        going to 16.11 but wanted to make sure I only needed to weed through 16.05 and .11
13:43 LeeJ        so many changes in 16.x
13:43 cait        jumping to 16.05 or higher?
13:43 cait        :)
13:43 LeeJ        cait: okay thanks! putting together a change list for my library so they know what's different :)
13:42 cait        yep
13:42 LeeJ        cait: am I correct in order of release it was 3.22 then 16.05?
13:39 cait        morning LeeJ!
13:33 * LeeJ      waves to cait
13:31 LeeJ        morning #koha
13:31 * LeeJ      waves
13:27 oleonard    Yup that was it, never mind.
13:27 tcohen      yes
13:27 tcohen      oleonard: maybe the template caching...
13:26 oleonard    Hm, maybe I didn't restart_all
13:26 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
13:26 oleonard    tcohen: It was working before, but today when I test Bug 16759 I don't get any configuration options in Columns Settings.
13:19 Dyrcona     kernel updates. back in a few.
13:13 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:13 Joubu       @later tell khall see bug 19037?
13:11 Joubu       lyle: still around?
12:32 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, NEW , Circulation and fine rules test tool
12:32 oleonard    Bug 19037 sounds very useful
11:54 cait        :(
11:51 oleonard    Oh nice, BestBookBuddies spammed me and every other person on my library's contact page.
09:11 mveron      Hi amitgupta
09:11 amitgupta   hi mveron
09:03 mveron      Hi #koha
08:44 cait        hi amitgupta
08:05 amitgupta   hi cait
07:14 cait        good mornign #koha
06:38 cameo       i am having issue with indexing with Devnagri titles can any body plz help me
06:38 wahanui     kia ora, alex_a
06:38 alex_a      bonjour
06:37 cameo       hello
05:34 amitgupta   Chris around
05:34 amitgupta   hi all
03:31 lyle        I thought usually the default expiry would have been set according the rules in the patron type. *shrug*
03:25 lyle        I've tried setting a default as a stop-gap, but I seem to be failing.
03:25 lyle        If anyone is around, I've got a question about setting the default expiry date for LDAP users. Previously it didn't seem like this was required, but now LDAP users attempting to log in for the first time get `Can't call method "get_expiry_date" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 602.`
03:23 lyle        Hi all, long time user.. poor contributer. Thanks for all you do.
02:52 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.