Time  Nick        Message
02:52 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
03:23 lyle        Hi all, long time user.. poor contributer. Thanks for all you do.
03:25 lyle        If anyone is around, I've got a question about setting the default expiry date for LDAP users. Previously it didn't seem like this was required, but now LDAP users attempting to log in for the first time get `Can't call method "get_expiry_date" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 602.`
03:25 lyle        I've tried setting a default as a stop-gap, but I seem to be failing.
03:31 lyle        I thought usually the default expiry would have been set according the rules in the patron type. *shrug*
05:34 amitgupta   hi all
05:34 amitgupta   Chris around
06:37 cameo       hello
06:38 alex_a      bonjour
06:38 wahanui     kia ora, alex_a
06:38 cameo       i am having issue with indexing with Devnagri titles can any body plz help me
07:14 cait        good mornign #koha
08:05 amitgupta   hi cait
08:44 cait        hi amitgupta
09:03 mveron      Hi #koha
09:11 amitgupta   hi mveron
09:11 mveron      Hi amitgupta
11:51 oleonard    Oh nice, BestBookBuddies spammed me and every other person on my library's contact page.
11:54 cait        :(
12:32 oleonard    Bug 19037 sounds very useful
12:32 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, NEW , Circulation and fine rules test tool
13:11 Joubu       lyle: still around?
13:13 Joubu       @later tell khall see bug 19037?
13:13 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:19 Dyrcona     kernel updates. back in a few.
13:26 oleonard    tcohen: It was working before, but today when I test Bug 16759 I don't get any configuration options in Columns Settings.
13:26 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
13:26 oleonard    Hm, maybe I didn't restart_all
13:27 tcohen      oleonard: maybe the template caching...
13:27 tcohen      yes
13:27 oleonard    Yup that was it, never mind.
13:31 * LeeJ      waves
13:31 LeeJ        morning #koha
13:33 * LeeJ      waves to cait
13:39 cait        morning LeeJ!
13:42 LeeJ        cait: am I correct in order of release it was 3.22 then 16.05?
13:42 cait        yep
13:43 LeeJ        cait: okay thanks! putting together a change list for my library so they know what's different :)
13:43 cait        :)
13:43 cait        jumping to 16.05 or higher?
13:43 LeeJ        so many changes in 16.x
13:44 LeeJ        going to 16.11 but wanted to make sure I only needed to weed through 16.05 and .11
13:50 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
13:51 mtompset    @seen aleisha
13:51 huginn      mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 30 seconds ago: <aleisha> same and same
13:52 * LeeJ      waves to mtompset
13:52 mtompset    Greetings, LeeJ. My fun today: refactor more function parameters.
13:53 mtompset    What's your fun today, LeeJ?
13:55 LeeJ        mtompset: a request from one of our librarians Bug 19031
13:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, ASSIGNED , Purchase Suggestion Submission Notice
13:58 LeeJ        and working on writing a follow up for a patch Joubu asked for a look at
14:05 oleonard    tcohen: Still on 16579, why does the new configuration disable sorting on the last column? Is that intentional?
14:08 tcohen      oleonard: it isn't!
14:09 tcohen      if you can fix it, go for it! otherwise leave a comment on the bug!
14:09 cait        tcohen: i wanted to answer your question on the bug... i think we should be careful not to display sensitive information and libraries have been used to the field snot visible in OPAC so might have done all kinds of things
14:09 cait        so filtering before it hits the template woudl be good i think
14:10 oleonard    cait: What would you consider sensitive?
14:12 tcohen      cait: you're talking about bug 19038 and possible followup for remaining sysprefs?
14:12 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19038 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Remove OPACShowBarcode syspref
14:13 tcohen      bug 16579 itself is not changing the sysprefs removing stuff behaviour
14:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, [OMNIBUS] Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
14:13 cait        oleonard: note fields, materials note for example
14:13 tcohen      sorry, bug 16759
14:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
14:13 cait        not visible in opac now, visible on checkout and hceckin... knowing libraries, they probably got creatvie :)
14:14 cait        just thiking that if you mark something hidden and not toggable, there should be no way to make it visible
14:14 cait        there is also the visibility settings in the marc freameworks, not sure how they factor in or should factor in
14:14 cait        sorry, just something i have been thinking about and failed to put on the bug in an understandable way so far :(
14:15 tcohen      currently, opac-detail.pl is not respecting MARC framworks-defined visibility for items at all
14:21 mtompset    did someone say opac-detail?
14:21 * mtompset  grumbles about lack of proper parameter passing.
14:22 mtompset    tcohen: GetMarcBiblio is not passing the $opac parameter.
14:23 tcohen      mtompset: opac-detail.pl is calling GetItemData directly
14:23 tcohen      so...
14:24 mtompset    Ah... there is that problem too.
14:24 mtompset    Don't worry... I might get to that as part of bug 14385.
14:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Extend OpacHiddenItems to allow specifying exempt borrower categories
14:24 mtompset    I already had to refactor parameters for one function.
14:24 mtompset    Looks like I'll be doing another today.
14:25 tcohen      mtompset: stop hooking C4 code :-D
14:25 mtompset    I would, but it's really hard. :P
14:31 oleonard    tcohen: Bad news:  OpacSeparateHoldings and OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch exist. :(
14:37 mtompset    cait: I just reworked bug 18633 for you.
14:37 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18633 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Logs are full of CGI::param called in list context - itemsearch.pl
14:37 cait        mtompset: thx, pls leave a note on the bug, i will see it later
14:37 mtompset    Though, as I noted, I did not test.
14:37 oleonard    Maybe it would be easier to calculate all possible permutations of all possible system preferences and create 950 different templates for opac-detail.tt
14:37 cait        oleonard: ouch
14:38 mtompset    *laugh*
14:38 mtompset    The opac-detail, opac-MARCdetail, and opac-ISBDdetail all need a good refactor.
14:38 mtompset    But it isn't an easy task.
14:46 tcohen      oleonard: thx for the pointer!
14:46 tcohen      and, ouch!
14:46 oleonard    Yeah :(
14:47 tcohen      I'm surprised it is affected
14:47 oleonard    Two tables, two configurations I assume
14:47 tcohen      ah!
14:47 tcohen      should be simple then
14:47 tcohen      thanks, again!
14:56 fridolin    cait: Joubu : I'll be on holidays this month so less on chan, i'll keep doing RMaint occasionnaly
14:56 fridolin    see u
14:57 fridolin    ISBD view needs to be send to trashbin ;)
14:57 cait        agree about the isbd view
14:57 Joubu       fridolin: ok, I will @later you if something is needed
14:57 cait        tried to change something there recently *shivers*
14:57 tcohen      XSLT too :-D Template::Toolkit for the win!
14:57 cait        fridolin: do you still plan to release on 22nd?
14:57 oleonard    Happy holidays fridolin
14:58 fridolin    cait: yep no pb
14:58 cait        ok - have happy holidays :)
14:58 fridolin    oleonard: thanks a lot, they are most welcome
14:58 fridolin    dont hésitate to email me on biblire adresse
14:58 cait        will be on holiday the next 2 weeks
14:58 cait        but will be around too
15:00 mtompset    Actually, I think a bunch of people from India might cry if ISBDview was thrown in the trashbin.
15:01 TGoat       good morning :)
15:01 mtompset    Though, I kind of like the idea of trashing it.
15:01 mtompset    Greetings, TGoat
15:01 TGoat       howdy mtompset :)
15:02 mtompset    SWEET! My refactor might actually enable a FIXME and TODO to be done in C4/Labels. :)
15:03 mtompset    But. I. Must. Not. Bunny. Trail....
15:06 Joubu       oleonard: did you open the bug report about the footerjs missing in intranet-main.tt?
15:07 oleonard    Sorry Joubu I don't know what you mean
15:07 Joubu       ok will do
15:10 Joubu       bug 19041
15:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19041 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , footerjs = 1 removed by bug 17855
15:11 Joubu       I do not have time to fill it, have to run
15:11 Joubu       have a good week-end #koha
15:11 oleonard    Blah.
15:11 Joubu       I do not have time to submit a patch I meant
15:11 Joubu       bye
15:39 mtompset    Does anyone know if misc/migration_tools/22_to_30/missing090field.pl is still useful?
15:41 cait        hm what's the system preference dealing with automatically cancellig holds that haven't bene picked up?
15:44 mtompset    Sorry, I don't know, cait.
15:52 oleonard    cait:  ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelay ?
16:14 mtompset    Have a good day, #koha oleonard cait TGoat rocio kmlussier
16:27 cait        oleonard: thx!!
17:01 mtompset    Greetings, #koha
17:25 mtompset    LeeJ: Now I'm having fun working on library software (Koha) in my local public library for 2 hours. Just grinding away at refactoring GetMarcBiblio
17:29 LeeJ        mtompset: nice! Unfortunately all my local libraries are in consortiums so none of them would ever be on Koha :P
17:29 mtompset    Mine isn't.
17:29 mtompset    I'm talking about doing my software development here.
17:30 mtompset    Sorry if I was unclear.
17:31 oleonard    I think LeeJ was just making conversation mtompset
17:31 mtompset    oleonard: Perhaps. How goes things with you? What fun are you having today?
17:32 mtompset    I wish tests ran faster. *sigh*
17:32 oleonard    Did some signing off. Now I'm working on customizing an Omeka theme.
17:33 mtompset    Omeka?
17:33 wahanui     i guess Omeka is really quite different from DSpace, IMO, though.
17:33 tcohen      back
17:34 mtompset    oleonard: I noticed... I am about to lose 3rd place, last I checked.
17:35 oleonard    mtompset: We're using Omeka as a repository for digitized local history materials.
17:39 mtompset    tcohen: I just noticed, you forgot to tweak sysprefs.sql
17:39 mtompset    bug 19028
17:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add 'shelving location' to holdings table in detail page
17:39 tcohen      ah
17:39 mtompset    Add that, and I'll test and sign off. :)
17:39 tcohen      yes, I had a followup but then oleonard noticed something nastier
17:40 tcohen      on the previous one
17:40 mtompset    Ah, distracted. I know that problem.
17:41 LeeJ        mtompset: oooh..sounded like you were working for them :P
17:41 mtompset    No no... still doing work for my organization, but remotely on a work laptop.
17:41 mtompset    sitting at the local library.
17:42 LeeJ        ahh...I'm hoping to get back into the normal swing of things next week
18:27 mtompset    LeeJ: Want an easy sign off? bug 19042
18:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19042 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Letters.t
18:28 LeeJ        mtompset: I can do that
18:35 LeeJ        mtompset: there ya go bud
18:35 mtompset    Thanks. LeeJ++
18:53 oleonard    Happy weekend, #koha.
19:02 mtompset    LeeJ: Could you confirm that t/db_dependent/www/search_utf8.t fails with wide print related messages?
19:03 mtompset    you may need to tweak your /etc/hosts to create a dummy URL for the export KOHA_INTRANET_URL= and export KOHA_OPAC_URL=
19:05 mtompset    Greetings, khall
19:05 mtompset    Have a good day, #koha khall LeeJ tcohen
19:37 LeeJ        @later tell Joubu I added that follow up to 18331 like you wanted..should be good to go now! Let me know if we need to do more on it
19:37 huginn      LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:37 barton      Hey all, Columbia university is one of the default z39.50 servers in koha, listed as clio-db.cc.columbia.edu:7090 -- is rejecting requests after connection... I can connect via telnet or yaz-client, but then I get an immediate message of Target closed connection
19:39 barton      This is obviously something on columbia's side, I'm just wondering if we need to find out if this is a permanent situation and remove that from the list.
19:39 barton      (or be helpful to columbia and tell them that their server is down).
19:51 jcamins     barton: they've been down for several months, I think.
19:52 jcamins     I first started getting them timing out in April. I didn't realize they were a default.
19:54 barton      jcamins: looks like they were getting farmed by bots; they've put their server behind a vpn.
19:55 jcamins     Interesting.
19:55 wahanui     i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:55 barton      ... or so says the person I was chatting with in their web chat window.
19:56 barton      live?
19:56 wahanui     live is life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life.
19:58 barton      jcamins: here's iformation from columbia: "Z39.50 users: Access to CLIO via the Z39.50 protocol is now restricted to on-campus use. For information about using Z39.50 to search CLIO, please see: http://library.columbia.edu/find/clio/classic-help/z3950.html"
19:58 barton      I'll file a bug to remove that.
20:15 pianohacker shalom
20:15 cait        hi pianohacker :)
20:15 pianohacker hi cait!
20:15 * cait      is on vacation now! squee!
20:15 pianohacker excellent.
20:22 LeeJ        cait: yayyyy!
20:23 LeeJ        well have a good weekend all...I might pop in at some point to do work :)
20:52 pianohacker byeeeee
21:06 tcohen      bad_paul