Time Nick Message 04:08 barton @seen dcook 04:08 huginn barton: dcook was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 11 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <dcook> see you all :) 06:13 oha o/ 06:51 reiveune hello 07:00 alex_a bonjour 07:00 wahanui que tal, alex_a 07:09 eythian @later tell irma https://goo.gl/photos/1Z68B1QV1Eis8UUr6 from 6 years ago :) 07:09 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 07:10 fridolin hie tehre 07:24 gaetan_B hello 08:41 * cait waves 08:42 cait someone using OAI-PMH with Plack? 08:45 eythian hi cait 08:47 cait hi eythian :) 11:36 marcelr hi #koha 11:53 eythian hi marcelr 12:02 marcelr hi eythian 12:04 cait hi marcelr 12:05 marcelr hello cait 12:07 * LeeJ waves 12:08 cait hi LeeJ! 12:08 LeeJ hello cait! 12:08 marcelr hi LeeJ 12:08 LeeJ hi marcelr! 12:26 oleonard Hi all 12:26 oleonard Everyone get lots done yesterday without the Americans around? 12:27 marcelr hmm 12:29 * LeeJ waves to oleonard 12:30 LeeJ oleonard: haha how was your 4th? 12:30 oleonard Pleasantly uneventful 12:30 LeeJ oleonard: same! 12:31 cait hi oleonard 12:31 wahanui hi olé onard 12:34 LeeJ cait: so I found the bug related to SpecifyReturnDate in the TODO..I added it to that line in the list 12:34 cait LeeJ: um sorry, not following 12:35 LeeJ cait: manual didn't specify under SpecifyReturnDate what happens with fines on item return when backdating 12:36 cait ah! 12:36 LeeJ cait: just an FYI 12:36 cait recalculated, right? 12:36 LeeJ mhm..appears so 12:36 cait i remembered that from the initial bug, but always good to make sure 12:50 Joubu hi #koha 12:50 LeeJ cait: is the kohadocs preview not displaying correctly for you either? I'm not getting the formatted output displaying 12:52 LeeJ cait: specifically for the administration section? The others appear to be fine.. 12:53 * LeeJ thinks he might have broke it 12:53 LeeJ Joubu: welcome back! 12:53 wahanui I hate jetlag. 12:54 marcelr hi Joubu welcome again 12:55 oleonard Hi Joubu 13:08 LeeJ cait: nvm...think I found the problem :) 13:10 tcohen morning 13:38 LeeJ cait: merge request pending when you get time :) 13:59 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:59 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 14:00 cait LeeJ: might be tomorrow - that ok? 14:01 cait but maybe rangi beats me to it 14:01 LeeJ cait: certainly! 14:01 cait and thx! 14:01 cait continuous documentation work - awesome :) 14:01 LeeJ cait: I goofed up the headings format which broke the layout..whoops! all fixed now :) 14:02 cait oops 14:02 cait did you figure out how to test locally? or how did you notice? 14:02 LeeJ cait: I used this tool http://rst.ninjs.org/ 14:03 LeeJ I literally copied the contents of the administration rst file into it on the left and then the output on the right indicates syntax problems :) 14:03 LeeJ it had large boxes saying "incorrect heading" 14:04 Bovinity Why is it that so many things in Koha can be done through a URL but adding items - the one thing that'd be really useful - is where they draw the line? >< 14:05 LeeJ Bovinity: that's a very good question 14:05 cait maybe because it's more complicated than other things 14:05 cait you can open the add item form by url 14:06 cait but you want to have the values too? you could add an enh request maybe... or take a look at the rest api work 14:07 Bovinity I want to say that management either disabled or forbade use of any API functions, but not sure on that. 14:07 Bovinity Should look into that. 14:07 cait it's rather new, probably not a permisson thing 14:08 cait i am actually not sure we have an endpoint for items yet, the rest api is still being developed in large parts 14:08 cait but if Koha can't do what you want now, that might be what we can do to make it work in the future 14:11 Bovinity It's a fairly minor thing overall, mostly just me being lazy about adding periodicals. Just funny that you could pretty much delete an entire catalog via URL with a script, but even just populating the add window with certain default values is an issue. 14:15 Bovinity Speaking of URLs, it seems that even if you remove permissions from a user to edit reports, they can just change the phase to Edit SQL in the url when otherwise accessing the report and it'll let them edit it anyway. 14:31 LeeJ Bovinity: that certainly sounds like a bug to me... 14:32 LeeJ Bovinity: can you file a bug report? I'll take a look at it 14:39 Bovinity Looks like I never made an account on bugzilla, oops. 14:39 Bovinity Will have to get on that. :D 14:57 Bovinity LeeJ: Meh, will have to wait, manager wants to have someone in IT report it. Outside of my scope and all that. :D 14:57 Bovinity Seems to work the same for allowing someone to create a report without the appropriate permissions, too. 14:57 LeeJ Bovinity: yay for oversight! 14:58 Bovinity Huzzah indeed. 14:59 LeeJ Bovinity: yeesh...that is certainly a security issue. khall have you ever run into this before? 15:25 cait Bovinity: we welcome everyone to report bugs - especially librarians (just saying) 15:25 cait it's not science and doesn't need to be technical at all 15:25 cait just a quick descriptions with steps to reproduce and your koha version is more than enough 15:27 cait :) 15:29 cait just trying to encourage... hope it comes across this way 15:32 cait bye all :) 15:40 Bovinity cait: Oh, the act of posting isn't an issue, it's just management here is really big on who does what and people overstepping their roles and such. 15:40 Bovinity Oh, they left. Oops. 15:40 Bovinity I had to clear it with my boss to just chat in here. :D 15:48 LeeJ_lunch Bovinity: ouch..well glad you're here at least ^_^ 16:06 LeeJ can someone clarify something for me? ES tests should skip/bailout if ES isn't installed instead of outright failing..correct? 16:14 reiveune bye 16:25 Joubu LeeJ: yes, skipped 16:26 LeeJ Joubu: thank you! That's what I thought. I asked because without ES setup in devbox Koha_Elasticsearch_Indexer.t fails because Catmandu::Importer::MARC isn't installed. 17:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17554: (followup) Shibboleth check should use ->find too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60e55c857c0e59693eaea138fbcc025f0de23960> / Bug 17554: Koha::Patrons - Remove GetBorrowersWithEmail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69ddc094345e995aabf0b0be79813c2019419caa> / Bug 17738: [QA Follow-up] Remove second find of same patron <http://git.koha-community.org/g 18:35 Bovinity Yay, management gave me the ok to submit that bug report. 18:47 LeeJ Bovinity: yay! 19:07 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #209: SUCCESS in 1 hr 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/209/ 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18214: Cannot edit list permissions of a private list 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18214: Add check for shared or public list 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: Table revision of virtualshelves 19:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18214 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit list permissions of a private list 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: DBIx schema changes for Virtualshelve.pm 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: Implement the new columns in code 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: Adjust Virtualshelves.t 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: Add missing comma in kohastructure.sql 19:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make list permissions easier to use/understand 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18228: QA Followup - use gender neutral language in new tests 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18782: Remove unused C4::Serials::getsupplierbyserialid 19:07 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17843: Replace C4::Koha::getitemtypeinfo with Koha::ItemTypes 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17843: Remove C4::Koha::getitemtypeinfo 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17843: [QA Follow-up] Some polishing 19:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18782 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Remove unused C4::Serials::getsupplierbyserialid 19:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17843 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move C4::Koha::getitemtypeinfo to Koha::ItemTypes 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17738: Replace GetReservesFromBorrowernumber with 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17738: Remove C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromBorrowernumber 19:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17738 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move GetReservesFromBorrowernumber to Koha::Patron->holds 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17738: Remove warning about redeclaration of $patron 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17738: [QA Follow-up] Remove second find of same patron 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17554: Koha::Patrons - Remove GetBorrowersWithEmail 19:08 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 17554: (followup) Shibboleth check should use ->find too 19:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move GetBorrowersWithEmail to Koha::Patron 20:56 MichaelKuhn #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland 20:57 thd MichaelKuhn: You may be a few minutes early. 20:58 kidclamp I thought I was late for a second 20:58 * kidclamp waves at Joubu 20:58 kidclamp welcome back! 20:58 wahanui I hate jetlag. 20:59 * thd has been suffering from clock drift. 20:59 MichaelKuhn I usually miss the time but for once I'm too early ;-) 20:59 MichaelKuhn 11 PM over here 21:00 Joubu hi kidclamp! :) 21:00 Joubu hi everybody 21:00 wahanui Hi, Doctor Nick! 21:01 kidclamp #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 July 2017 21:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jul 5 21:01:04 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_july_2017' 21:01 kidclamp #topic Introductions 21:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 21:01 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 21:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 21:01 kidclamp I need to leave in about 40 minutes, so be quikc or someone can take chair at that time :-D 21:02 MichaelKuhn #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland 21:02 Manny #info Manny Tamayao, Philippines 21:04 kidclamp any NZers? 21:05 kidclamp seems to be a light meeting, not a lot on agenda, do we want to continue? 21:05 thd Is anyone here awake enough to conduct a meeting? 21:06 kidclamp Let's start and just go quick :-) since I see kohacon folks and they can report :-) 21:07 kidclamp #topic Announcements 21:07 Manny Yes:) 21:07 kidclamp anyone? 21:07 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? 21:07 thd kidclamp: You forgot 21:07 Joubu Nothing from me, just back from holidays. I am processing my emails 21:07 thd kidclamp: startmeeting 21:07 kidclamp I got it at 17:01 21:08 thd I see :) 21:08 kidclamp I will just mention I have seen cait and LeeJ talking manual and wiki updates so things seem to be going well there 21:08 kidclamp cait++ 21:08 kidclamp LeeJ++ 21:08 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 21:09 kidclamp everyoneelseinvolvedbutIambadatremembering++ 21:09 * LeeJ just noticed there was a meeting 21:10 kidclamp #topic Update on releases 21:10 kidclamp 16.11.09 and 17.05.01 were both released, upcoming on track afaik 21:11 kidclamp Joubu: anything to mention? 21:11 Joubu nope 21:11 kidclamp #topic KohaCon 21:11 kidclamp Manny, the floor is yours :-) 21:11 Manny We wiuld like to thank you guys 21:12 rangi #info Chris Cormack (sorta here) 21:12 Manny We have at least 180+ participants for the KohaCon and hackfest 21:12 LeeJ #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University 21:13 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2017 had 180+ participants! 21:13 Manny Most of the presentations are now in internet archive 21:13 kidclamp link? 21:13 wahanui link is both helpful/unhelpful 21:14 kidclamp link https://archive.org/search.php?query=kohacon%202017 KohaCon presentations 21:14 kidclamp #link https://archive.org/search.php?query=kohacon%202017 KohaCon presentations 21:14 MichaelKuhn Ihttps://aslpwiki.wikispaces.com/Forums%2C+Seminars%2C+Conferences+and+Other+Activities 21:14 MichaelKuhn sorry 21:14 MichaelKuhn https://aslpwiki.wikispaces.com/Forums%2C+Seminars%2C+Conferences+and+Other+Activities 21:15 Manny https://archive.org/details/@kohacon17 21:15 kidclamp #link https://aslpwiki.wikispaces.com/Forums%2C+Seminars%2C+Conferences+and+Other+Activities KohaCon2017 21:15 kidclamp #link https://archive.org/details/@kohacon17 KohaCon on Archive.org 21:15 kidclamp that ought to satisfy the masses :-) 21:15 kidclamp Manny++ 21:16 kidclamp anything to highlight Manny? 21:16 Manny Though at tge hackfest most of tge sandboxes failes 21:16 kidclamp #info sandboxes were failing during hackfest - maintainers please take a look 21:17 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines 21:17 Manny schnydszch: do you want to add 21:17 schnydszch wait just woke up ;) 21:17 thd :) 21:18 schnydszch 191 was the exact number for the main conference and haekfest 21:19 thd Did the same number of people stay for both? 21:19 schnydszch Thd: nope 21:19 Manny Nope 21:19 schnydszch there were attendees for hackfest that did not attend the main conference 21:19 kidclamp #inf0 191 was exact total attendance for KohaCon2017 (conference and hackfest combined) 21:20 schnydszch and there were attendees for the main conference that did not attend the hackfest 21:20 Manny Another highlight was they become aware of the new features of Koha because most of them are using 2.2.9 version 21:21 schnydszch there were those who attended only the first day, some attended second to third only. thanks manny for that 21:21 kidclamp wowza! Paul had mentioned that I think, are lots of people planning to upgrade now? 21:21 Manny Hopefully 21:21 kidclamp #info many users were on older versions so the conference showed a lot of new features 21:21 schnydszch yes kidclamp, yes they're planning to upgrade as well as the national library 21:21 schnydszch https://archive.org/details/kohacon2017_03_Gallana 21:22 schnydszch https://archive.org/details/kohacon2017_04_Quiros 21:22 rangi heh the national librarian told me that in 2010, hopefully this time :) 21:23 schnydszch those presentations was able to tackle 2.2.9 versions during the Q&As, Paul poulain's presentation was able to mentioned new features in newer versions hence the interest: https://archive.org/details/kohacon2017_01_poulain_201707 21:23 Manny rangi: "their not in a hurry" :( 21:24 schnydszch @Rangi: we (together with Manny) hopefully can handle those who really want to go newer versions through OSLS and TA. 21:24 huginn schnydszch: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 21:25 schnydszch huginn was that there reason? 21:25 huginn schnydszch: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:25 kidclamp the '@' symbol confuses the bot 21:25 kidclamp so it responds as well as it can :-) 21:26 rangi we shouldnt have made 2.2.9 so solid :) 21:26 Manny :) 21:27 * LeeJ blames rangi for such a solid product being made 21:27 schnydszch kidclamp, confusion with fb haha 21:28 kidclamp anything else guys? 21:28 Manny None 21:28 kidclamp Alright, moving on unless anyone has anythign to add? last chance! 21:29 kidclamp thanks Manny and schnydszch> 21:29 kidclamp #topic Next meeting 21:30 Manny kidclamp: welcome, and thank you for the opportunity. You missed the fun here :) 21:30 kidclamp indeed! hopefully we'll meet at a future Kohacon 21:31 schnydszch i basically thanked all the people here: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Maraming-salamat-from-KohaCon2017-organizers-td5938518.html. So we've got pending uploads of some edited presentations to archive.org. I also would like to create a blog post of the event ala-Chris Cormack, Manny can also probably help me. That's all! Again, from the bottom of our hearts, Maraming maraming salamat! 21:31 kidclamp August 2nd, 2017 - 14 UTC 21:31 kidclamp ? 21:31 kidclamp #info Thanks to KohaCon 2017 organizers http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Maraming-salamat-from-KohaCon2017-organizers-td5938518.html 21:31 schnydszch sorry got cut off by my internet connection 21:31 LeeJ kidclamp: that seems reasonable 21:32 kidclamp going once 21:32 kidclamp going twice 21:32 schnydszch that's all kidclamp 21:32 kidclamp #info Next Meeting: 2017, August 02, 14 UTC 21:33 kidclamp #endmeeting 21:33 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jul 5 21:33:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 21:33 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_july_2017.2017-07-05-21.01.html 21:33 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_july_2017.2017-07-05-21.01.txt 21:33 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_5_july_2017.2017-07-05-21.01.log.html 21:33 kidclamp thanks everyone! see you in the future! 21:33 schnydszch Thanks everyone, cheers and have a nice day! 21:34 LeeJ kidclamp_away++ for being a great chair 21:34 kidclamp_away you should see my impression of a table ;-) 21:34 LeeJ hahahaha 21:34 cait heh 21:35 * LeeJ waves to cait 21:35 LeeJ cait: rangi merged my changes :) 21:36 LeeJ anyways, I'm heading home :) 21:36 * LeeJ waves to everyone 21:36 LeeJ take care all 21:40 cait rangi++ LeeJ++