Time Nick Message 02:10 gaetan_B magandang umaga 02:10 paul-kohacon-ha hi rangi from the hackfest !!! 02:10 rangi hi, hows it going? 02:10 schnydszch Magandang umaga po sa lahat! 02:11 paul-kohacon-ha showing the IRC usage to attendees 02:12 * wizzyrea waves from New Zealand 02:12 May hi 02:13 schnydszch welcome to koha irc from the philippines! 02:14 aihlien hi 02:14 wahanui hey, aihlien 02:15 * harold slaps CJSHayward around a bit with a large fishbot 02:15 schnydszch we're showing local participants kohacon how to use irc 02:15 LegendOfZelda i'm in, hi to all 02:17 Jess Hello! 02:17 wizzyrea oh, no fishslapping :( 02:17 wizzyrea hi everybody :) 02:17 chie good day! 02:19 Cj_ Hello! 02:20 j0ann3tcu hi! mabuhay! 02:20 wizzyrea hello all 02:21 pmkae_sv Hi from Kae :) 02:21 haleems Hi everyone 02:21 edmer good morning mabuhay 02:22 Lexlibro Hello from the Philippines 02:22 j0ann3tcu hi ma'am jess!<3 02:26 Guest3017 hello - chad 02:32 jessleano hello mam joanne 02:32 j0ann3tcu hello there1 02:33 jessleano kohacon2017 02:41 gaetan_B rangi: is bkriegel the only person who can add a new language to translate.koha-community.org ? i just realized we don't have tagalog 02:42 rangi we have had tagalog in the past 02:43 rangi but yep you need bgkriegel to add it 03:01 gaetan_B ok i just emailed him, i hope it's not too big a task to ask for at the very last minute 03:07 fabulous_Faith great day!! 03:11 mtompset wizzyrea: I think that is a good suggestion, but you are right it would require extra coordination. 03:12 mtompset (the announcing once the packages are built, as compared to when the tarballs are ready) 03:14 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 05:32 fabulous_Faith we're having Koha hands-on in the Philippines! 05:39 paul-kohacon bag, or anyone from bywater around ? 05:40 paul-kohacon im trying to train philippinian ppl to use sandboxes to test patches, and byw sandboxes seems down ... 06:12 * magnuse waves to #koha in general and the Philipines in particular! 06:29 fridolin hie there 06:36 paul-kohacon fridolin: mon sauveur peut etre... 06:36 fridolin wat ? 06:36 wahanui wat are we looking for? 06:36 paul-kohacon fridolin: je suis en train de montrer les sandboxes, et celles de bywater ne marchent pas. peux tu allumer toutes les notres la tout de suite ? 06:37 paul-kohacon fridolin: (20 personnes qui lisent cet ecran seront infinimment reconnaissantes !!! ) 06:38 fridolin paul-kohacon: yes my dear boss, no problem 06:38 paul-kohacon hard to play with sandboxes that doesn t work... 06:38 fridolin juste do not use HTTPS, http 06:38 fridolin yep 06:38 * fridolin loved sandbox when child :) 06:39 drojf hi #koha 06:39 * drojf prefers a pool with water 06:39 fridolin yep 06:40 drojf ~30° today, please send the pool now 06:40 drojf how is the hackfest going? 06:40 drojf paul-kohacon: are you the only dev there? 06:41 paul-kohacon drojf: quite wrong for the sandbox group: a lot of problems, ptfs and byw ones seems to not work> network problem maybe but not sure. 06:42 drojf oh. that's unfortunate :( 06:42 paul-kohacon everyone happy to learn but not able to practise for now 06:42 drojf i think the ptfs ones needed a kick in marseille too 06:42 paul-kohacon drojf: i must admit I feel a little bit alone as a developer... 06:43 paul-kohacon mengu, from turkey helping also. but he s not a developer. 06:43 drojf paul-kohacon: how many people for you to teach? 06:43 paul-kohacon ok, the keyboard to mengu nowm for another topic !!! 06:49 schnydszch Hi! I'll be waiting for the other sandboxes -eugene here from the Philippines :) 06:50 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 06:50 reiveune hello 06:51 * mveron waves to KohaCon17 06:52 mveron Hmm, link to KohaCon17 page seems to be broken on: https://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon17/ 06:52 mveron http://kohacon2017philippines.com/ 06:52 mveron Result: Error establishing a database connection 06:57 alex_a bonjour 07:04 schnydszch Hi! Fixed it already with regards to kohacon2017philippines.com 07:16 paul-kohacon fridolin1: when do you think sandboxes will be up ? 07:17 fridolin1 when internet is back in breteuil 07:17 fridolin1 :D 07:18 cait morning #koha 07:18 cait fridolin1 around? 07:18 fridolin1 paul-kohacon: ah our test server is nearly full 07:18 fridolin1 i can build 10 sandboxes, not more 07:18 fridolin1 cait: hie 07:19 paul-kohacon fridolin1: thats better than 4 ! 07:19 fridolin1 i've not released yet 07:22 cait yep 07:22 cait you got a later waiting for fridolin 07:22 cait Joubu said we shoudl push the patch for handling the old_issues correctly 07:23 cait fridolin1 ^ 07:25 fridolin1 cait: ah wich bug number ? 07:26 cait hm rename to fridolin 07:26 cait maybe it sends the later then 07:26 cait Joubu @later tell fridolin hope you read your bz notifications ;) 07:26 cait hm i will look for it 07:28 magnuse gah, i upgraded my dev install (not gitified), and now i'm getting this error no matter what i try to get to, opac and intranet (i have replaced "Require all granted" to <Directory "/home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl">) [authz_core:error] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /home/koha/kohaclone/mainpage.pl 07:28 magnuse anyone got any hints? 07:29 cait which error? 07:29 cait ah 07:29 cait hm 07:29 fridolin1 cait: i dont see which bug from joubu 07:29 cait fridolin1: looking for it 07:29 cait he commented on bugzilla 07:30 cait bug 18651 07:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled 07:30 fridolin1 ah oki 07:30 fridolin1 just received the mail 07:33 cait let me know if/when you push it? 07:34 cait i brought the laptop, can finish mine then too 07:36 drojf fridolin1, cait: i like the way you coordinate 07:36 drojf (assuming you are talking about releases) 07:37 cait we do :) 07:37 fridolin1 yep 07:37 fridolin1 cait: i try now 07:37 cait fridolin1: diving into another problem, can you ping me when you are ready? 07:37 fridolin1 paul-kohacon: you must see with lds for the sandboxes 07:38 fridolin1 cait: yes 07:48 magnuse ah the solution to my problem was a missing <Directory "/">Require all granted</Directory> 07:54 fridolin1 magnuse: there is a wiki page no ? 07:54 fridolin1 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup#Granting_Access_to_the_Installation_Directory 07:55 fridolin1 somthing like that 07:55 fridolin1 Apache has turned paranoïd ;) 07:55 fridolin1 cait: patch pushed 17.05.x 07:55 fridolin1 loooks fine 07:55 fridolin1 ive described my tests 08:02 magnuse fridolin1: thanks! 08:03 magnuse the weird thing was that this was just an upgrade 08:03 fridolin1 paul-kohacon: mail from lds about sandboxes 08:03 magnuse i guess maybe i had to figure it out when i installed too... 08:05 magnuse jajm++ 08:06 cait fridolin1: thx, will get on it in a little bit! 08:11 * jleano slaps jleano around a bit with a large fishbot 08:17 marcelr hi #koha 08:34 eythian hi 08:34 wahanui hey, eythian 09:05 cait help 09:06 cait bug 18651 doesn't work with 16.11 09:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled 09:06 cait i have fixed some issues in the Returns.t noticing the I still have OldIssues instead of Old:Issues 09:06 cait and now i have fails in Circulation.pm and can't return items 09:07 cait i am not sure - just release without it? or woudl someone be willing to rework the patch set / help me find the missing dependencies? 09:10 cait wb drojf 09:10 drojf heja 09:11 cait drojf: might take a bit with my release, struggling with bug 18651 09:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled 09:13 drojf cait: you suspect missing deps? 09:13 cait yeah 09:13 cait but not sure i want to go down that rabbit hole 09:14 cait not your kind of deps, bug deps :) 09:14 cait but the bugs i am missing probably have bugs linked to them again and so on 09:14 drojf ah ok. wanted to say, packagewise i think 17.05 and 16.11 are in sync 09:14 cait i am nto sure I can resolve that savely at this point in time 09:14 cait having a 16.11.x specific patch set would be better I think 09:15 drojf lots of patches. eeek 09:15 cait yeah 09:16 cait marcelr: you have worked on those patches too - what do you think? 09:18 cait I think i am missing 17796 09:18 cait but that alone has 3 follow-up bugs linked to it 09:20 cait I think i will release without and once this is sorted we can talk and see if an out of schedule release makes sense 09:23 drojf if it depends on a lot of refactoring that is not supposed to be backported, it should have its own patch set for the actual branch i guess 09:27 marcelr cait: not sure what you miss in 16.11 for those patches 09:34 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk 09:56 M_MaRiAn_M Hi! I would like to ask how can I make the URL of our OPAC accessible even outside the perimeters of our office? Thanks! 10:05 drojf M_MaRiAn_M: you will need a public IP address, a domain name is also helpful 10:08 M_MaRiAn_M Ah so my IP should be public. I believe our IP in the office is not public. Our IT personnel installed Koha in our Office Server and he only gave me an IP address to begin with (172.16.21.135:8000) which I cannot acccess remotely. 10:09 eythian you're going to need to talk to the IT guy as it'll involve networking changes and such. 10:09 M_MaRiAn_M So once my IP is already public, how will the URL I've put in the OPACBaseURL work so that I can access it remotely? 10:10 M_MaRiAn_M Thanks so far for the help! 10:10 eythian the problem is, it's a tricky question that depends totally on how things are set up at your end. 10:10 eythian e.g. you'll need to have domain names, routing, webserver configuration, etc. 10:12 M_MaRiAn_M I see. I was actually advised to use teamwork software so I can remotely access my computer in the office. However, my computer has to be open all the time for that to work. I guess I have to make sure our IT guy makes the necessary network changes so I can access the staff client and OPAC remotely. Thanks for all the help! 10:13 eythian if it's just for you, that is an option. Or some kind of vpn or something. 10:13 eythian if it's to allow other people to access it, then that won't work. 10:14 M_MaRiAn_M ah sorry it's teamviewer, not teamwork. but yeah, I guess the goal is not just for me to access it but also for other library users who needs access to our collections and services. Thanks again! 10:15 eythian yeah, then you're best doing it properly :) 10:15 cait marcelr: too much for a quick fix, i will release without 10:16 marcelr too bad ;) 10:16 cait Koha::Object changes 10:17 marcelr might be the get_column 10:17 cait if we want this in, someone will have to provide patches for 16.11.x, I don't think I can resolve the bug dependencies at this point in time 10:17 cait have you seen my comment on the bug? 10:17 marcelr saw it passing by 10:17 marcelr Jonathan will respond most probably 10:19 cait it's to do with Koha::Checkouts missing and Koha:Old:Issues vs Koha:OldIssues 10:19 cait he is on vacation now for 10 days ;) 10:20 cait fridolin1: I am ready to publish 10:23 marcelr do RMs have vacation ? :) 10:28 cait i think they probably need a lot of it :) 10:28 cait release done 10:28 marcelr cait++ 10:52 drojf cait++ 11:04 magnuse cait++ 12:04 deichman Hello! In upgrade to current Koha 2017.11.09 we have lost the ability to add an extra week to holds for pick-up, when manually checking in an item from holds shelf (to extend the hold period). Is there a way to do this currently? 12:05 cait hi deichman 12:06 cait there is no version with this number - can you check your about page for the correct one? 12:06 deichman Sorry, my bad. 17.05 12:06 cait ok 12:07 cait i am nto sure which feature you are referring to 12:07 cait can you describe your steps a bit more? 12:07 cait i don't think you can manually set the pick-up date 12:07 cait only setting I am aware of is a global value in the systempreferencs 12:12 deichman we used to take one item from the pick up shelf - scan the barcode in Return and got this dialog with three buttons 1. Confirm 2. Confirm and print sli and 3 Ignore. When we clicked Confirm the same patron got 1 more week to pick up the item. When we clicked Ignore we got this new box saying "Cancel hold" and then the item was transfered to the next patron 12:13 cait hm 12:13 cait i am not sure if this was a documeted feature 12:13 deichman We get the same dialog, but the Confirm-button doesn't give any extension 12:13 cait a button with 'renew pick-up period' might be better 12:14 cait I was not aware of this use case, I think it might be a side effect froma bug fix 12:14 cait coudl you please describe the former behaviour, the versions it changed between etc. ina bug report on bugzilla? 12:14 cait bugs? 12:14 wahanui it has been said that bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. 12:14 deichman yes, we thouht so, but loved it 12:14 cait I can understand 12:14 cait just think when e bring it back, maybe less hidden:) 12:15 cait or not sure, maybe it's simple to fix 12:15 deichman thank you, we will do :) 12:42 rsantellan good morning #koha 12:48 cait hi rsantellan 12:51 rsantellan one little question, I submit a patch on Bug 14572 and change the state to Needs Signoff. It change the state and said to send email. But I'm on the list and no email arrive to me, is that correct? 12:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14572 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , insert_single_holiday() forces a value on an AUTO_INCREMENT column, during an INSERT 12:54 cait hm i think you don't get your own changes maybe 12:54 cait i togt it 12:54 cait I got the email I mean 12:54 cait maybe check your preference settings in bugzilla if there is something about the email featuere 12:54 marcelr rsantellan: if you change, you get no mail 12:55 rsantellan marcelr: thanks, I supposed that but didn't know and thought I did something wrong 12:56 marcelr it seems you didn't :) 12:56 cait I definitely saw your emails on the bug list 12:56 cait the patch and the status change 12:56 rsantellan okay! I did it right :) 12:57 marcelr rsantellan++ 12:57 drojf lots of weather here 13:01 oleonard Hi all 13:01 marcelr hi oleonard 13:01 wahanui hi olé onard 13:12 cait has someone tested book clubs on 17.05? 13:12 cait i get a #not found' in one of the demos running it 13:13 cait hi oleonard :) 13:28 oleonard Did Koha change the way it handles MARC imports in 16.11.x? Previously Koha wouldn't import a batch which contained an error like a missing barcode. Now it appears to reject only the problematic record. 13:29 cait hm barcode can be empty usually - we do that a lot 13:29 tcohen morning 13:30 cait hi tcohen 13:30 magnuse i have a library that does not use authorities, but they are interested in starting to use them. I have found the sysprefs for adding new authorities when records are added. but is there a way to "fill" the authorities from an existing catalog? 13:31 magnuse i tried running touch_all_biblios.pl with the settings set to add authorities from records, but that did not seem to work 13:31 cait magnuse: hm not in the official version, but i think people have done scripts maybe, i remember this came up on the mailing list a few times 13:31 magnuse ah, i'll try to google and then send the question to the mailinglist 13:36 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina 13:36 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 13:36 * oleonard blames Trump 13:36 cait @excuse 13:36 huginn cait: My excuse for today is "severe packet reflux" 13:47 LeeJ magnuse: if you still need help with what to do for authorities my library had to go through that process 13:52 LeeJ magnuse: to generate authorities for existing records...SysPrefs - set "CatalogModuleRelink" to Do, "LinkerKeepStale" to Do not, "LinkerModule" to whichever option is the best fit for the library, and "LinkerRelink" to Do 13:53 LeeJ magnuse: then once the SysPrefs are set just run the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl cronjob :) 14:39 eythian https://www.lightningmaps.org/blitzortung/europe/index.php?lang=en yow 14:43 eythian there sure is a lot of flashing coming from behind the Rijksmuseum 14:51 oleonard Mutants. 15:11 reiveune bye 15:18 oleonard Is it possible to put the current branch into a hold slip? it would be nice to be able to format the slip differently based on whether it was a hold+transfer 15:44 LeeJ is t/db_dependent/Members.t failing for anyone else on master? 15:56 LeeJ khall1: is the scope of Bug 18821 check out/check exclusively? Or should it apply to patron login to the OPAC as well? 15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18821 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , GetPatronLastActivity is a performance killer 15:58 khall1 LeeJ: works on both staff and opac 16:12 LeeJ khall1: okay..asking because I applied it and tried it from the OPAC and it was still updating for each page click. I'll try it again thanks! 16:12 khall1 np! let me know if it's still not working! 16:22 LeeJ khall1: unless I'm doing something wrong, it's still not working on the OPAC..run reset_all, enable the syspref, run a SELECT on lastseen column (returns null), apply patch, run restart_all, login to OPAC and navigate some pages..last seen updates for each page still it appears 16:23 LeeJ khall: unless I'm doing something wrong, it's still not working on the OPAC..run reset_all, enable the syspref, run a SELECT on lastseen column (returns null), apply patch, run restart_all, login to OPAC and navigate some pages..last seen updates for each page still it appears 16:26 mtompset Greetings, #koha 16:26 mtompset @seen tcohen 16:26 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tcohen> @wunder cordoba argentina 16:27 khall LeeJ: I'll have to take a look. The unit tests were passing : \ Can you just set the status to failed qa for me? 16:27 LeeJ khall: will do! 16:29 khall1 thanks LeeJ! 16:29 LeeJ khall1: just noticed that it's an Academy bug anyway 16:48 mtompset Bad, LeeJ touching Academy tagged bugs again. ;) 16:49 mtompset tcohen1: Why the 1 today? 16:49 LeeJ mtompset: No no..not touched other than adding a clarification comment :) 16:50 mtompset Ah, okay. We don't need to rile the great and mighty Joubu. ;) 16:51 mtompset khall2: is IRC acting up today? 16:51 khall2 mtj: nope it's me. very unreliable internet access atm 16:51 mtompset Sorry to hear that. 16:51 mtompset How familiar are you with koha-create, khall2? 16:52 mtompset Because it seems like all the koha-create and koha-common bugs on bugzilla are things I'm hitting today. :( 16:52 khall2 sorry to hear that : \ 16:53 mtompset Have you tried installing from packages on stretch yet, khall2? 16:53 khall2 can't say I have 16:53 mtompset pretty smooth if you have a local DB. 16:54 mtompset painful right now, if you don't. 16:54 mtompset the switch to maria means that debian.cnf doesn't exist. 16:54 mtompset which means the koha-common.cnf is a dead link. 16:55 mtompset which means the koha-create logic to determine host breaks. 16:55 mtompset install mysql-server and the problem goes away, because debian.cnf gets created. :) 16:56 mtompset I shouldn't have to install mysql-server locally to get my remote mariadb to work. :P 16:57 mtompset I'm so up for a refactor of koha-create as a result... want to rip it apart and start again. 17:02 mtompset @seen gmcharlt 17:02 huginn mtompset: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: * gmcharlt waves back at cait 17:29 mtompset Reduces the NEW queue by 2. RESOLVED WON'T FIX and INVALID are useful, but not fulfilling. 17:33 bag yeah they aren’t are they 17:35 mtompset is anyone else having problems with git bz? 17:35 mtompset bugs.koha-community.org/xmlrpc.cgi doesn't exist? 17:36 LeeJ mtompset: I haven't had problems today..what action(s) were you doing? 17:36 mtompset git bz apply 17:36 mtompset Tells me that bugs.koha-community.org/xmlrpc.cgi does not exist. 17:38 LeeJ odd... 17:38 LeeJ I'll try one now to see 17:39 mtompset bug 14533 is my suggestion to try. :) 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-create --use-db option shouldn't create any db or db user 17:39 LeeJ mtompset: nope! no problem here..apply works for me 17:40 LeeJ mtompset: huh...must be something with just that bug 17:40 LeeJ I got the same error message but only on that bug 17:43 * cait waves 17:44 * mtompset waves back to cait 17:44 mtompset LeeJ: Interesting... I was able to git bz apply 1985. 17:45 * LeeJ waves to cait 17:46 mtompset LeeJ: Found the problem... 17:46 mtompset It's a git am patch, not a git bz patch. 17:46 LeeJ mtompset: do tell.. 17:46 LeeJ ooooh 17:46 cait :) 17:46 cait LeeJ: just saw your message - thx for offering 17:47 cait :) 17:47 cait i hope to get some ideas up tonight 17:47 LeeJ cait: okay! I'll be out of work in 3 hours so I could test it any time after that :) 17:47 LeeJ cait: I enjoy being a test subject because it helps me learn 17:47 cait :) 17:48 cait I have to the dishes and some housechores - then i will be on it 17:57 * LeeJ waves 17:57 LeeJ take care all 18:00 mtompset Whee.... 18:00 mtompset Patch rescued. 18:12 mtompset Booo... I missed the comments above the patch... fixing the patch. 18:58 magnuse later tell LeeJ thanks, i'll give it a try! 18:58 magnuse @later tell LeeJ thanks, i'll give it a try! 18:58 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 19:32 mtompset Yay! Rescued ancient koha-create patch. 19:32 mtompset bug 14533 19:32 wahanui bug 14533 is, like, your suggestion to try. :) 19:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , koha-create --use-db option shouldn't create any db or db user 19:36 magnuse mtompset++ 20:31 cait starting a manual to do list, if someone wants to add to it: 20:31 cait https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo 20:35 cait @later tell LeeJ https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo work in progress :) 20:35 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 20:40 cait @seen jzairo 20:40 huginn cait: jzairo was last seen in #koha 2 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <jzairo> excellent thanks cait! I will have some time today 20:40 cait @later tell jzairo started a to do list for the manual: AllowCheckoutNotes AuthorityMergeLimit AuthorityMergeMode CircSidebar CumulativeRestrictionPeriods ExcludeHolidaysFromMaxPickUpDelay ExportCircHistory ExportRemoveFields FailedLoginAttempts LoadSearchHistoryToTheFirstLoggedUser MarcItemFieldsToOrder NoticeBcc NumSavedReports OPACFineNoRenewalsBlockAutoRenew OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupExceptions OpacNewsLibrarySele 20:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 20:40 cait eek 20:40 cait @later tell jzairo that was a wrong paste, meant https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo 20:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 21:08 cait so quiet tonight 21:08 cait anyone awake? 21:11 eythian I'm studying, if that counts 21:11 eythian by which I mean distracting myself and not really studying :/ 21:12 cait procrastinating? 21:13 cait what are you studying for? 21:13 eythian I have a language test on Monday 21:13 cait ah 21:13 cait so study! 22:07 * wizzyrea mutters, again, about QueryAutoTruncate 22:28 mtompset cait: It's evening here, but I'm here now. :) 22:29 mtompset wizzyrea: QueryAutoTruncate -- Quality Assured Turd? :) 22:47 cait mtompset: i think you had an error in your bug number 22:47 cait 18563 has he patch for the config file 22:48 mtompset yes. 22:48 * cait is frustrated because ubuntu lts has a too low python-sphinx version and i can't find a way to install a newer version:( 22:49 cait need 1.4 at least 22:50 mtompset Which ubuntu 16.04? 22:52 cait hm which? 22:52 wahanui rumour has it which is the most maintainable 22:52 cait oh yeah 22:52 cait 16.04 22:54 cait1 i saw the next lts was just released... didn't plan on updating yet 22:54 cait1 sorry, got disconnected 22:54 cait1 anyway, won't solve this otnight 22:55 ibeardslee cait: internally we use virtualenv to build some of our sphinx documentation eg ... https://github.com/catalyst/catalystcloud-docs/blob/master/compile.sh 22:55 mtompset The newer version is in 16.10 or higher. 22:56 ibeardslee you can define the version of python-sphinx in with that, bypasses the requirement to the ubuntu package versions 22:56 eythian cait: there won't be a new LTS until next year 22:56 cait1 oh oops, just saw 17.04 was out then 22:58 cait1 ibeardslee++ thx 22:58 cait1 too late here now, but will try to come back to this tomorrow 22:59 mtompset Also, did you try pip? 22:59 mtompset http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/install.html 22:59 cait1 yeah 22:59 cait1 gives me the old verson too 22:59 mtompset Sucky. 22:59 eythian Best to avoid using pip in a distro 23:00 mtompset pip is cpan of the python world? 23:00 eythian You risk causing multiple versions of things to be installed simultaneously 23:00 eythian Yeah 23:00 cait1 hm ok 23:00 cait1 now i am confused 23:00 cait1 Installing collected packages: sphinx 23:00 cait1 Successfully installed sphinx-1.6.2 23:00 cait1 sloth:~ $ sphinx-build -h 23:00 cait1 Sphinx v1.3.6 23:01 eythian Yeah, exactly that sort of thing 23:01 mtompset cait1: python search paths. 23:01 mtompset it's like when people CPAN a perl module, and even though the DEB's update, they keep the old one, because the search paths find the old one first. 23:01 cait1 i had unisntalled it previously using the packaging manager 23:01 cait1 so nto sure why it's still there 23:02 mtompset because things never really uninstall. :) 23:02 cait1 how... nice 23:02 cait1 is there something i can do to kill the zombie? 23:02 mtompset vagrant destroy; vagrant up? :) 23:03 cait1 we ar enot in vagrant here 23:03 cait1 hm guess i could install it in the kohadevbox 23:03 cait1 but then when i destroy wlil have to do it again? 23:03 cait1 or persuade tcohen to add it to kohadevbox :) 23:04 cait1 talking about the kohadocs repository 23:04 mtompset People are so busy my patches haven't made it in yet. :( 23:05 mtompset That seems like a reasonable issue. 23:05 mtompset I'd raise it on the kohadevbox issues page: kohadocs isn't set up for patching. 23:07 cait1 good night all! 23:10 cait uninstalled... restarted... now it says v1.6.2 23:13 cait if course i got another error now 23:13 cait thx again all! 23:26 wizzyrea A reserve against an item that isn't reservable according to the circ rules shouldn't be filled for a borrower who can't place a reserve on that item in the first place? 23:26 wizzyrea is that right? 23:26 wizzyrea so example, if you have 4 items, 2 restricted and 2 not 23:27 wizzyrea and you have a rule that says "restricted is allowed 0 holds" 23:27 wizzyrea should checking in a restricted item on a biblio level hold go to a borrower who doesn't have rights to get that? 23:28 wizzyrea (but it is also possible that the rules are messed up) 23:30 cait no it shouldn't 23:31 cait fill the hold I mean 23:32 wizzyrea hm. 23:32 wizzyrea so a concrete example 23:32 wizzyrea I have a rule for All categories, restricted item type 23:32 wizzyrea all reserving is disabled 23:33 wizzyrea there are no other rules for this item type applying 23:33 wizzyrea (that I have yet spotted) 23:33 wizzyrea patron in category A, which should be restricted 23:33 wizzyrea I return a book marked restricted item type, category A borrower pops up 23:34 wizzyrea I feel like I'm missing something. 23:35 wizzyrea this bib, has 4 items, 2 reservable that could fill holds for this user, and 2 that aren't 23:35 cait hm sorry, no idea right now 23:35 wizzyrea 3 are unavailable to fill holds, one restricted is available 23:35 wizzyrea yeah that's ok 23:35 wizzyrea kinda hoping that typing it all out exposes the problem 23:36 cait good night again :) (it works now...) 23:36 wizzyrea good night 23:36 wahanui I watch you sleep. 23:36 wizzyrea no I watch YOU sleep.