Time  Nick         Message
00:09 LeeJ         Joubu: came home and tried to test the how-to but I had to provision my devbox because I didn't have some stuff configured on Windows but ran into problems during provisioning so I need to sort that out. Will try again tomorrow :(
06:19 alex_a       bonjour
06:25 fridolin     hie there
06:48 reiveune     hello
07:08 fridolin     Bug 18656 a nice community work ;)
07:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18656 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Require confirmation of deletion of files from patron record
07:25 drojf        hi #koha
07:42 magnuse      moin drojf
07:42 oha          o/
07:43 drojf        hei magnuse
07:47 mtj          heya #koha
07:47 mtj          ping drojf
08:23 eythian      hi fridolin, drojf, magnuse, oha, mtj
08:23 drojf        hi eythian
08:23 fridolin     hi eythian watsup ?
08:24 fridolin     i was thinks of you last time I had a nice fresh bier
08:24 eythian      fridolin: given I'm living below sea level, pretty much everything :)
08:24 eythian      heh nice
08:24 fridolin     some special craft bier
08:24 fridolin     eythian: you live in Neederlands ?
08:24 eythian      fridolin: yeah, Amsterdam
08:25 fridolin     whouu
08:25 fridolin     cofee shop ? or not ?
08:25 fridolin     ;)
08:26 fridolin     i've never been but I'd like to
08:26 eythian      haha, alas no :) they don't have much call for software developers as far as I know.
08:26 eythian      you should come visit :)
08:30 eythian      (I do have a comfy couch bed you can use.)
08:40 ashimema     eythian.. yapc/tpc::eu this year?
08:40 ashimema     'tis in amsterdam ;)
08:40 eythian      ashimema: thinking about it. Need to talk to someone about getting work to send me :)
08:41 eythian      I really need to sort out my calendar, things are starting to stack up
08:41 ashimema     that's the same place I'm at at the minute.. getting work to pay.. they've agreed in principle but that was before the tickets were available
08:42 ashimema     now to actually part the purse strings ;)
08:42 eythian      ah, they're up now? cool.
08:42 ashimema     would be great to see you there.. if not though would love to come find you for a pint one night ;)
08:42 ashimema     yup, available now
08:43 eythian      they really don't make it easy to find on the website.
08:43 ashimema     no, not at all
08:43 ashimema     you have to login first I believe
08:43 ashimema     took me ages
08:44 eythian      yeah
08:44 ashimema     http://act.perlconference.org/tpc-2017-amsterdam/purchase
08:44 eythian      ah, it's immediately after another thing I'm going to. Going to be a hectic week :)
08:44 eythian      https://sha2017.org/ if you happen to want a longer trip, there's this...
08:46 ashimema     looks interesting..
08:47 ashimema     would need to get some more brownie points before asking the other half.. ;)
08:49 eythian      heh
09:06 * cait       waves
09:13 cait         fridolin: around?
09:16 fridolin     cait: yep
09:20 cait         I am planning to write Bernardo about string freeze tonight
09:20 cait         so he updates the po files
09:20 cait         would that be ok for you too?
09:33 fridolin     cait: yes thanks
09:33 fridolin     string Mr Freeze
09:33 fridolin     ;)
09:51 cait         ok :)
09:52 cait         curious to see if the latest fixes will make jenkins go green again
09:52 cait         will find out tonight :)
11:12 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:21 cait         hi oleonard :)
11:27 drojf        looks like the new repo is ready. phew
11:29 * drojf      gets a coffee before pressing the button
11:30 cait         yay
11:30 cait         press the button!
11:30 Tylathos     Hey #koha
11:31 oleonard     Hi Tylathos
11:39 * drojf      presses button
11:39 cait         confetti!
11:39 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
11:46 cait         drojf: oldoldstable? :)
11:48 drojf        cait: i did 16.05.14 because of the critical bug. mtj would like to provide 16.05 packages this release cycle
11:48 drojf        packaging leaks. hehe
11:49 drojf        sorry mtj, no going back now :P
11:50 cait         splitting the work :)
11:51 drojf        ok, doing some things before people start reporting problems with the new repo. eeek
11:51 cait         more confidence :)
11:55 drojf        it took ages because i created all new pockets and tested every pocket to make sure all dependencies are there. i _think_ it should be fine :D
12:04 magnuse      drojf++
12:10 oleonard     By the time I'm done adding JavaScript to the patron entry form to deal with all the mistakes people make here it's going to look like this: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#0/14973557614872
12:23 marcelr      hi #koha
12:29 drojf        so far nobody reported explosions. gonna update the wiki page
12:29 drojf        hi marcelr
12:29 marcelr      \o
12:30 drojf        i don't have an ubuntu test machine, if somebody feels like trying the new repo with 16.04 and give some feedback, that might be helpful
12:44 drojf        wiki update done
12:52 kidclamp     @wunder 05001
12:52 huginn       kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp     @wunder 05048
12:52 huginn       kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp     @wunder white river junction, vt
12:52 huginn       kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp     @wunder vermont
12:52 huginn       kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:57 oleonard     @wunder The sunken place
12:57 huginn       oleonard: Error: No such location could be found.
13:05 Joubu        hi
13:05 wahanui      hey, Joubu
13:08 tcohen_DND   morning
13:11 eythian      tcohen_DND: playing Dungeons and Dragons eh?
13:13 tcohen_DND   eythian: exactly
13:13 kidclamp     @dice
13:13 huginn       kidclamp: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
13:14 kidclamp     @dice 1d20
13:14 huginn       kidclamp: 10
13:14 tcohen_DND   @dice 16d2
13:14 huginn       tcohen_DND: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:14 tcohen_DND   @dice 6d2
13:14 LeeJ         we could play D&D in here?! :O
13:14 huginn       tcohen_DND: Error: Dice can't have fewer than 3 sides.
13:15 tcohen_DND   drojf++ # finally
13:16 tcohen_DND   @dice 6d6
13:16 huginn       tcohen_DND: 3, 3, 6, 4, 5, and 6
13:17 tcohen_DND   do we trust that random generator?
13:18 * kidclamp   feels like we have disturbed the tcohen :-)
13:18 * tcohen_DND has that feature, easily disturbable
13:18 LeeJ         lol morning all
13:22 LeeJ         I love how the dice tooltip says it can roll ten dice but it complained that you can't roll more than 6..
13:24 Joubu        @dice 10d10
13:24 huginn       Joubu: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:25 LeeJ         huginn lies...
13:25 huginn       LeeJ: downloading the Perl source
13:25 LeeJ         O.o
13:25 Joubu        do not write doc, do not write help, never
13:27 LeeJ         gotcha
13:41 oleonard     Dice can't have fewer than 3 sides? Maybe in your dimension huginn :P
13:41 * oleonard   scolds huginn about playing D&D when he can't even tell the weather anymore
13:45 drojf        that's what happens when kids get into role playing. they lose track of reality and just roll dice all day
13:48 LeeJ         drojf: I take slight offense to that...that was the better part of my high school days LOL
13:49 Joubu        \o/ Jenkins is happy, so I am too
13:51 LeeJ         Joubu: Jenkins is hard to please, I take it?
13:52 Joubu        jenkins is happy now
13:52 Joubu        but... it does not run all of our tests
13:52 kidclamp     Joubu++
13:54 LeeJ         you mean the ones you recently pushed that we worked on?
13:56 tcohen_DND   Joubu++
13:57 LeeJ         brb..gonna see if I can connect to this from Chatzilla
14:11 Bovinity     Anyone know of a way to get CCL to search ranges of numbers including decimals? (Specifically, trying to search AR level ranges)
14:15 * oleonard   points out that LeeJ never became a weather forecaster thanks to D&D
14:16 * LeeJ       wonders why oleonard doesn't broadcast the weather in here
14:16 LeeJ         :P
14:23 LeeJ         so our cataloger at work here brought up something I might submit a bug for...under moredetail.pl it has the record's biblionumber but not the itemnumber for each item
14:23 Bovinity     Seems like ccl=arl,st-numeric:1-10 will only return the integers between 1 and 10, but not 3.3 for example. Not sure if there's another qualifier I can use or something.
14:23 LeeJ         can anyone think of a reason it would be a bad idea?
14:24 oleonard     LeeJ: Itemnumber is generally considered to be a piece of information which isn't of general interest. I would go the other way and say that biblionumber should be displayed.
14:24 oleonard     LeeJ: But I'm curious how it fits into their workflow?
14:25 LeeJ         oleonard: our cataloger uses the itemnumber in relation to lost/missing items to identify them (say in case of multiple copies/volumes, etc.)
14:25 oleonard     Why not barcode?
14:28 LeeJ         oleonard: that's a good point...gonna check with her later. I'd imagine she has her reasons but I'm not privy to them currently lol
14:46 Joubu        @later tell tcohen do you know why we have Master with a big storm icon on jenkins.k-c.org? Sounds like it is for % of test coverage, but do not remember we had that before, should be yellow
14:46 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:51 Infra_3600   Q: does vufind support trees?
14:52 Infra_3600   https://vufind.org/wiki/indexing:hierarchies_and_collections anybody give me screenshot of this if available
14:55 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18794: Fix test ListMetadataFormats in OAI/Server.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b3f0c798b7770ecd7211be5998790e4a9f3999a>
14:56 Infra_3600   google help me ))
15:03 oleonard     Putting "once and for all" into a bug report title seems like asking for trouble.
15:21 Bovinity     Gonna get rid of the bugs once and for all, yep.
15:22 reiveune     bye
15:48 cait         zebra can be so annoying
15:48 cait         it keeps complaining about a duplicate entry for charmap... but i have removed all changes from the files, restarted zebra etc
15:48 cait         and it keeps complaining :(
15:49 cait         I am not sure what else to try at this point
15:57 Bovinity     Why can't CCL have st-float or st-decimal or something. ><
16:11 mveron-away  Hi again #koha
16:12 Bovinity     Oi
16:18 mtompset     @seen Joubu
16:18 huginn       mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen do you know why we have Master with a big storm icon on jenkins.k-c.org? Sounds like it is for % of test coverage, but do not remember we had that before, should be yellow
16:19 mtompset     @later tell Joubu I blame you for me reading t/db_dependent/rollingloads.t -- It so needs a refactor!
16:19 huginn       mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:21 LeeJ         hiiii mtompset
16:21 Joubu        Did I do that?
16:21 mtompset     Joubu: Yes. You said "It should be prove -r"
16:21 mtompset     So I did.
16:21 mtompset     Then I saw rollingloans.t skip 8 tests.
16:22 mtompset     before dying.
16:22 mtompset     -- hi, LeeJ
16:22 mtompset     I read the code.
16:22 Joubu        ho yes, these tests are completely useless
16:22 mtompset     I thought, "<bleep> This needs a refactor with TestBuilder.
16:23 mtompset     Looks like another category for the kawhatsits.
16:24 mtompset     Tests needing a refactor.
16:30 mtompset     Joubu++ # Thanks for fixing and figuring out the failing test.
16:49 Joubu        mtompset: are you writing a patch for bug 18797?
16:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is skipping
16:49 jenkins      Project Koha_Master_D8 build #200: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/200/
16:49 jenkins      jonathan.druart: Bug 18794: Fix test ListMetadataFormats in OAI/Server.t
16:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18794 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OAI/Server.t fails on slow servers
16:49 mtompset     I haven't started anything.
16:50 mtompset     I was going to go for lunch and see if someone would take it. :)
17:02 mveron       Dinner time...
17:06 Bovinity     Well, I guess first-in-field kinda allows for a crappy workaround since it'll allow "3" to return 3.0-3.9.
17:08 oleonard     Sorry you're working in solitude Bovinity. CCL experts must be sleeping... or hiding.
17:08 LeeJ         never heard of CCL before associating with you all :P
17:09 Bovinity     It's like magic, if magic were boring and didn't work the way you wanted. ;)
17:10 Bovinity     I don't really NEED ccl for this, currently just using a public report and parsing the response out on the opac, but it feels kinda hacky to do it that way and management wants something "that's built into koha".
17:12 LeeJ         Bovinity: that's management speak for "I just want to press a button to make it work" ;)
17:13 mtompset     Bovinity: "built into koha" -- sounds like plug-ins. :)
17:14 Bovinity     Pretty much. They see a new menu item or something and think, "Oh no, you're hacking koha! Can't you just do it 'normally'"?  :D
17:15 LeeJ         Bovinity: hahahaha! I'm very thankful to be in the position I'm in. No one here (not even the director) questions my Koha activities because they know it will benefit us in the long run. Higher management is occupied elsewhere :)
17:16 Bovinity     That sounds nice. :o
17:16 mtompset     LeeJ: It's after 1pm in my timezone, did you test that patch? :P
17:17 LeeJ         mtompset: then apparently we're in the same timezone! And I'm getting to it! My box wasn't behaving so I had to provision..it's almost done LOL
17:18 mtompset     eastern?
17:18 LeeJ         mhm...I'm in Pennsylvania
18:33 LeeJ         mtompset: the log you speak of..is it the intranet-error.log?
18:50 mtompset     LeeJ: Sorry, was away from keyboard. LeeJ es, assuming you aren't running plack.
18:50 mtompset     LeeJ: Sorry, was away from keyboard. Yes, assuming you aren't running plack.
18:51 LeeJ         mtompset: alright..so it would change with plack running, correct?
18:51 mtompset     i think so.
18:51 mtompset     In the case of the kohadevbox, it probably is the plack one.
18:51 LeeJ         okay..I'll let you know mtompset
18:51 mtompset     It's whereever the errors go for the staff client.
18:52 mtompset     I was testing under old school git install.
18:55 LeeJ         mtompset: I'll take a look
18:58 LeeJ         anyone have experience running synced repo on Debian host for kohadevbox?
19:33 cait         LeeJ: do you mean having the git repo outside of your kohadevbox?
19:34 LeeJ         cait: yes...I'm having a wicked time with it even after setting up NFS (what I believe to be) the correct way
19:35 LeeJ         cait: it's not an emergency since I have 2 other computers to use..I'm just a completionist :P
19:36 cait         hm
19:36 cait         i am using it
19:36 cait         one problem i had was that i use a encrpyted home directory
19:36 cait         so i had to move things around a bit
19:36 LeeJ         cait: I think I might just have to re-install Debian
19:36 LeeJ         cait: mine isn't encrypted...so I'm going to assume I just botched the install and start over
19:37 cait         basically you can have the git repo whereever you want
19:37 cait         and then start up the devbox with the parameter
19:37 cait         or put that into your environment
19:37 cait         $ SYNC_REPO="/home/me/kohaclone" vagrant up
19:38 cait         should be all you need
19:38 LeeJ         I understand that part..I probably goofed something up because I had to install NFS manually
19:38 LeeJ         for some reason it wasn't installed in the base box
19:41 cait         hm tcohen would be the one to ask best about it
19:41 cait         i also had some trouble int he beginning
19:41 cait         maybe make sure that your kohadevbox is up to date
19:42 cait         btw nice to have you aorund LeeJ :)
19:42 LeeJ         I figured he would be...and I always make sure it's updated
19:42 LeeJ         thank you cait :) it's nice to feel my contributions are meaningful, as minimal as they are :
19:42 LeeJ         :)
19:43 cait         not so minimal I think - you seem to be everywhere right now :)
19:45 LeeJ         well thank you..I appreciate that :)
19:45 cait         where are you from?
19:45 LeeJ         Pennsylvania...I work for a university
19:46 LeeJ         you're one of the maintainers, right?
19:54 rangi        morning
19:55 LeeJ         morning for you..almost-end-of-the-workday for me :P
19:55 LeeJ         but morning lol
19:57 magnuse      kia ora rangi!
19:57 rangi        kia ora magnuse, long time no see!
19:58 magnuse      yeah, not too many late nights lately :-)
19:58 * magnuse    keeps fingers crossed for kohacon20 in nz
19:58 * magnuse    has to wander off
19:58 rangi        yep, still the plan :)
19:58 rangi        cya later
20:02 LeeJ         @seen mtompset
20:02 huginn       LeeJ: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <mtompset> I was testing under old school git install.
20:02 cait         oh oops
20:02 cait         seemed i had lost connection
20:03 cait         LeeJ: yep, currently rmaint for 16.11
20:03 cait         from germany, working for a library service center :)
20:03 cait         morning rangi!
20:04 LeeJ         very cool cait!
20:05 eythian      hi rangi
20:05 cait         hi eythian
20:05 eythian      an cait
20:05 eythian      +d
20:05 cait         or -n
20:06 cait         bbiab
20:16 LeeJ         @later tell mtompset I'll have to test 18771 from home..reinstalling Debian now and OS X isn't letting me clear any log files (getting permission denied)
20:16 huginn       LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
20:17 LeeJ         well it's time to leave work..take care all. Until later :)
20:50 cait         tcohen: around?
21:07 tcohen       cait: sort of
21:07 cait         it's ok
21:07 cait         i was worried the build was not starting and then it did
21:08 tcohen       it polls the repo each 15 minutes if my brain is still not malfunctioning
21:12 cait         that could be
21:12 cait         i was staring at it
21:12 cait         i am really curious if the recent fixes will be enough to turn it blue
21:14 Joubu        cait: bug 18794 may be useful as well
21:14 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18794 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OAI/Server.t fails on slow servers
21:16 cait         not on 17.05 - but no string changes
21:16 cait         so i can push it later on still :)
21:16 cait         i just caught up to fridolin again
21:16 cait         he will probably get to it next
21:17 Joubu        We are very close to get a "prove -r" that returns green without warnings
21:17 Joubu        that would be the first time since years
21:18 cait         fingers crossed
22:28 cait         @later tell wizzyrea can you please fix the link to the koha 17.05 release notes on the kc.org front page? i tried, but couldn't figure out how to edit that page
22:28 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
23:13 mtompset     re 'prove -r' -- Thanks to Joubu and LeeJ for working together with me to make progress on that.