Time  Nick                 Message
00:35 mtompset             excuse
00:35 wahanui              mtompset: The Token fell out of the ring. Call us when you find it.
00:35 mtompset             quote
00:35 mtompset             random quote
00:35 wahanui              random quote is funny
00:35 mtompset             @quote
00:35 huginn               mtompset: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
00:35 mtompset             @random
00:35 huginn               mtompset: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
00:35 wahanui              i already had it that way, huginn.
00:36 mtompset             @random quote
00:36 huginn               mtompset: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
00:36 wahanui              i already had it that way, huginn.
01:50 mtompset             @quote random
01:50 huginn               mtompset: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010)
01:51 mtompset             excuse
01:51 wahanui              mtompset: techtonic stress
01:51 mtompset             @quote random
01:51 huginn               mtompset: Quote #168: "gmcharlt: #koha is ALL the time" (added by chris_n at 09:01 PM, December 01, 2011)
01:51 wahanui              i already had it that way, huginn.
01:51 mtompset             excuse
01:51 wahanui              mtompset: Support staff hung over, send aspirin and come back LATER.
02:01 mtompset             papa: True enough about the DBIx not existing in the project 5+ years ago. :)
02:01 papa                 heh sure :)
02:02 papa                 I'm going away for a month, will do it when I get back
02:02 mtompset             You know me, resurrecting old dung. :)
02:04 mtompset             just dont make it a 5 year excursion. ;)
02:04 papa                 well it's not me, no one wanted to sign it off
02:06 mtompset             I didn't notice it until I started to scour 4 digit bug reports. :)
02:08 mtompset             -- and decided I'll try the rest api scary stuff. :)
02:12 mtompset             Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha papa rangi Francesca Kafilini
05:56 ashimema             @later tell thd I'd be really really happy to see the mediawiki installation updated and mysql'd :)
05:56 huginn               ashimema: The operation succeeded.
06:17 * magnuse            waves
06:17 magnuse              what is the wiki using today?
06:19 fridolin             hie there
06:22 ashimema             it's an ancient mediawiki running on PostGres
06:23 ashimema             where did that capital G come from.. grrr
06:23 ashimema             Pg, we should stick to MySQL as mediawiki really isn't very well supported on Pg as a whole.. it works, but the ecosystem doesn't code for it as it's not the norm..
06:23 ashimema             thus it makes upgrades and installing plugins much more challenging
06:24 ashimema             magnuse^^
06:25 magnuse              ah, gotcha!
06:25 magnuse              guten morgen, BüchereiKlara
06:26 ashimema             compare wikipedia to our mediawiki and you'll see how far mediawiki as a software has come ;)
06:26 ashimema             it's much easier to edit now for the average Joe..
06:27 ashimema             and adding semantic mediawiki would make organising and structuring the wiki much easier too ;)
06:27 ashimema             I gave up trying to fix the wiki when I realised we had backed ourselves into a corner.. it just became hard to work with
06:37 magnuse              <3 semantic mediawiki
06:37 magnuse              who's hosting it?
06:38 magnuse              equinox
06:39 magnuse              we are on 1.16. looks like 1.28 is the most recent
06:39 magnuse              1.25 was EOL'ed 2016-06-28
06:41 cait                 ashimema: you might want to talk to galen directly
06:41 cait                 about updating it
06:42 magnuse              sounds like a good plan
06:42 magnuse              the wiki says he and thd have access to the server
06:43 alex_a               bonjour
06:43 wahanui              what's up, alex_a
06:44 LibraryClaire        hey magnuse
06:44 magnuse              hiya alex_a
06:44 alex_a               salut magnuse
06:45 magnuse              @wunder boo
06:45 huginn               magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:45 magnuse              sunny, +18C
06:47 reiveune             hello
06:47 wahanui              privet, reiveune
07:06 eythian              magnuse: swap you, 13 and rainy here.
07:07 magnuse              haha, in your dreams eythian :-)
07:12 eythian              @later tell cait Google wants to remind me that this photo exists: https://goo.gl/photos/4Ab8QKBu2BGS5SaA9
07:12 huginn               eythian: The operation succeeded.
07:24 magnuse              eythian++
07:26 magnuse              kohacon12 in edinburgh?
07:37 gaetan_B             hello
07:44 magnuse              bonjour gaetan_B
08:08 * cait               waves
08:12 cait                 eythian: thx, that made me laugh
08:23 drojf                hi #koha
08:25 drojf                @wunder berlin, germany
08:25 huginn               drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
08:25 drojf                not coming back, eh?
08:25 cait                 magnuse: yep edinburgh
08:25 cait                 doesn't look like it :(
08:26 cait                 maybe need a new bot verson or so?
08:26 drojf                Berlin, Germany, 18°
08:26 drojf                hi cait
08:26 cait                 @drojfwunder Konstanz
08:26 huginn               cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
08:27 drojf                Konstanz, Deutschland Donnerstag, 10:00 Überwiegend bewölkt, 14°
08:27 cait                 @drojfsnack cookie
08:27 huginn               cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
08:27 cait                 @excuse
08:27 huginn               cait: My excuse for today is "proton decay"
08:28 drojf                thanks cait!
08:28 drojf                *noms*
08:37 drojf                is there an overview about what is missing for elasticsearch in production?
08:41 drojf                i'd like to offer the koha-elasticsearch meta package we have for unstable also for 17.05. but it would be nice to know (and tell people) what to expect from koha + elasticsearch at the moment
08:42 cait                 i agree
09:01 ashimema             +1
09:13 drojf                [off] the email about the ebsco grant for ES in koha came in february 2015
09:20 drojf                liw: around?
09:23 * liw                apparates from a sudden cloud of smoke, with a WHOOSH sound effect
09:26 * eythian            wonders if liw saw my query-thing from the other day.
09:27 liw                  eythian, I don't think so
09:27 liw                  I am as ignorant as a newborn baby elephant
09:27 eythian              liw: obnam just gave me a mild moment of terror when it didn't restore my mysql backups. Wasn't until I remembered that if you're backing up two different paths, they land in different generations.
09:27 eythian              liw: and so I had to specify the generation number for the other part of the backup. Tell me if that's wrong and I should be doing things differently.
09:28 eythian              (happily, now that one of my crappy VPSes appears to have kicked the bucket, I seem to have recovered everything important from it from my bailing-twine level backup regime.)
09:28 eythian              (in the end, the server came back, but I don't really trust that server anyway and should move things off it.)
09:29 liw                  eythian, do you mean that you do "obnam backup /path/one" followed by "obnam backup /path/two"?
09:29 eythian              yeah
09:30 drojf                liw: i'd like to restructure the koha debian repository, having a codename based on release and a suite unstable, stable, oldstable as we have now. we do not have codenames, so i'd use release numbers for now, like 17.05 and 16.11. i remember somebody mentioning that would be a problem, and mentioning your name (i think it was tcohen), but i could not find anything about it
09:30 liw                  yeah, in that case each generation has only one of the paths
09:30 eythian              liw: yes. Does saying obnam backup /path/one /path/two work? I can't remember if I ever tried it.
09:30 drojf                at the moment we have (outdated) debian codenames in there, but it does not make sense for the way we do packages
09:31 drojf                i set up a repo and it works fine for me
09:32 drojf                also, why do we still not have cooking/baking based codenames :(
09:32 liw                  eythian, that works, yes
09:32 liw                  drojf, I'll have an answer in a moment, I'm thinking furiously
09:33 * drojf              puts ice on liw's head
09:34 eythian              liw: OK, thanks. Time I revisited my scheme I think.
09:35 liw                  drojf, I think I would suggest you have a repo with dists/{wheezy,squeeze,buster,sid} as the dirs, with each dir having Koha .debs built for that Debian release (this is what I do); if you need to have multiple Koha versions in the repo it gets trickier
09:36 eythian              liw: the thing is that koha aims to have one release run on all supported dists (and ubuntu, etc), but does have multiple koha versions.
09:36 liw                  my own repo for my own projects (code.liw.fi/debian) has dists/foo with a build for Debian release codename foo, and that has a version number 1.2.3-1.foo (where foo is appended to the version by CI which builds the packages) so that dists/foo and dists/bar can both have a package of version 1.2.3
09:37 eythian              So kinda the inverse problem :)
09:37 drojf                liw: our packages are one package fits all (all supported debian and ubuntu versions) … what eythian says
09:38 liw                  I avoid having one .deb file that works on all .deb using distro versions, since it gets harder to cope with their differences (e.g., when one has manpages in a different place from the others)
09:38 liw                  but if that's something you want to do, then by all means, nothing wrong with that approach
09:38 drojf                for now, having a repo per debian and ubuntu version would be more work (much more) than coping with differences
09:38 drojf                we deprecate support if needed :P
09:41 liw                  let's walk through this: assume you make a new Koha release 1.2, what happens? you build a koha_1.2-1_all.deb package and upload it to the unstable dist in your apt repo? and then copy it within the repo from unstable to testing? (i.e., similar to what Debian itself does)
09:51 drojf                liw: it's all kind of different. oldstable and stable are the last two supported branches, which get new maintenance versions every month. so stable will be 17.05 now, oldstable 16.11. unstable is master. or, used to be. we have nightly builds in a different repository now. so packages do not travel from one pocket to another, they are built independently
09:51 * drojf              fears he's causing massive headache in liw
09:52 liw                  no worries
09:53 drojf                i am not sure how we came to that setup, but i suppose because we would have a lot ogf pockets and different builds otherwise
09:53 drojf                *of
09:54 liw                  so your dists/* match Koha freshness, basically? there's one for "latest release", one for "release series we support for a long time", and one for "and even longer time"?
09:59 drojf                more or less. it is the latest branch that is maintained and the one before, we do not have LTS versions at the moment.
10:01 liw                  is this approx correct: you have git branch release/16.11 from which you release 16.11.1, 16.11.2, etc, and upload .debs built from those releases to dists/oldstable; and git branch release/17.05, which gets uploaded to dists/stable ?
10:03 liw                  drojf, and if that is correct, what is the change you actually want?
10:05 liw                  release/16.11 uploads to dists/sunshine-and-icecream, with a symlink dists/oldstable; and release/17.05, uploads to dists/bananenkartoffel, with symlink dists/stable?
10:07 drojf                liw: atm it is eg. dists/squeeze, symlink to dists/stable. we don't have codenames, so what i would do for now is dists/17.05, symlink dists/stable. question is, is dists/17.05 valid (or not) for some reason
10:08 liw                  drojf, ah, I see. dists/17.05 is valid as far as I know
10:08 liw                  (I _almost_ got Koha to use a release code name bananenkartoffeln, *sigh*)
10:08 drojf                liw: i could not find anything indicating it isn't, but i did not find any elaboration on the matter either
10:08 drojf                thanks
10:09 drojf                and yes, i really want bananenkartoffel
10:09 liw                  eine kleine Tasse Schokoladenschnitzel mit Bananenkartoffeln und Kabelaalat auf der Hauptbahnhof, bitte is teh only thing I know in German anymore
10:13 drojf                that would be an awesome release name
10:13 drojf                in one word
10:13 cait                 hypenated please
10:15 eythian              cait is a bad German
10:16 cait                 not really
10:16 cait                 all those hyphens are very german too
10:19 liw                  "deb http://debian.koha.org/debian eine-kleine-Tasse-Schokoladenschnitzel-mit-Bananenkartoffeln-und-Kabelsalat-auf-der-Hauptbahnhof-bitte main" -- rolls off the tongue
10:22 drojf                i'll use it
10:22 drojf                maybe release codename is not really a release manager thing but a packaging manager thing? :P
10:32 rangi_               hello
10:33 rangi_               can any one tell me where i got koha installation file for windows
10:34 rangi_               any on know that
10:35 magnuse              rangi_: you can't install koha directly on windows
10:35 magnuse              yo uwould have to do it in a virtual machine
10:36 rangi_               it means koha not available for windows operating system .
10:36 eythian              that is correct.
11:18 oleonard             Hello
11:32 eythian              hi oleopard
11:52 atheia               oleonard: Sorry — I had to refresh my memory, but yes, it's not possible to delete rotas.
11:53 atheia               The feature allows deactivation for now, which fullfills the same function, but allows for easy resurrection and data integrity.
11:55 oleonard             Okay thanks atheia
12:07 cait                 hm why no deletion?
12:07 * cait               likes deleting stuff :)
12:10 cait                 bws++ lots of new posts and videos
12:12 cait                 would be great to have those in the manual :)
12:12 oleonard             Yeah, I like deleting stuff in part because it means I can do lots of test runs without having to live with them forever.
12:13 cait                 and if you have duplicates or very similar ones
12:17 edveal               Hi
12:18 edveal               hey kidclamp how goes it?
12:19 kidclamp             it goes well, and you?
12:26 edveal               very well. just plenty busy!
12:32 misilot              Quick question, with the MARC Import tool, is it possible to tell it to not touch existing fields (like leave the 856's and the 500's alone) ?
12:34 oleonard             misilot: I thought perhaps there might be a way to use a MARC modification template for that, but there doesn't seem to be.
12:36 misilot              thanks oleonard i was hoping that was the case as well
12:42 Joubu                drojf: https://tree.taiga.io/project/joubu-koha-rm-1711/us/71
12:42 Joubu                hi #koha
12:43 drojf                Joubu++
12:43 LeeJ                 morning all
12:44 cait                 misilot: you can't 'partially overwrite' records atm - it's all or nothing
12:44 cait                 there are patches in bugzilla to enable that i think, but untested
12:45 drojf                Joubu: how do i join that thing? i made an account with tauga
12:45 drojf                *taiga
12:46 LeeJ                 oleonard: You are a genius! That Vagrant fix for the vb additions plugin you found completely fixed the problem!
12:46 Joubu                drojf: pm
12:48 oleonard             LeeJ: Not sure I can claim genius status for info which is contained in the README ;) But I'm glad I could help.
12:48 oleonard             Hi drojf, long time no see
12:48 drojf                hi oleopard!
12:50 LeeJ                 oleonard: I guess I'll add that link to the issue I opened so others can benefit..though I would hope not many people would use it on Windows..
13:31 Guest2005            .
13:45 tcohen               morning
13:49 oleonard             Hi tcohen
13:51 drojf                hi tcohen
13:51 tcohen               hi oleonard drojf
13:51 tcohen               drojf: we could have a chat with Joubu regarding mojolicious upgrade and the relevant patchset
13:52 drojf                tcohen: yes, we should
13:55 drojf                tcohen: i just finished the draft for the 17.05 package/repository email. i could get a coffee and do it now if that works for both of you
13:56 Joubu                sorry, but as I said for the last 2 weeks, my priority is the wiki pages to welcome new contributors. If you have time to dedicate to the project, you should help with that
13:57 Joubu                I am not willing to do anything else until it's done
13:58 drojf                ok. for me it's just shifting something that has to be discussed anyway, not extra time really
13:59 drojf                and i don't assume it is a big thing to discuss :P
14:02 tcohen               Joubu--
14:02 tcohen               :-P
14:02 drojf                heh
14:03 tcohen               Joubu: how is the wiki going?
14:04 Joubu                it is not going anywhere
14:06 drojf                what are you waiting for to happen in the wiki?
14:07 drojf                welcome new contributors could mean a lot of things
14:07 tcohen               drojf: https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/Koha_Create_entry_points
14:07 Joubu                https://tree.taiga.io/project/joubu-koha-rm-1711/us/21
14:08 tcohen               drojf: we really need to refactor the wiki
14:08 tcohen               so it is easier to find what a new user needs
14:08 drojf                we have curators for that
14:08 tcohen               and also make it easier to maintain
14:08 drojf                at least that is what is in a lot of release notes
14:09 Joubu                wiki curators did not do anything for the last years
14:09 drojf                but i agree, the wiki is hardly usable unless you know a search term to look for
14:09 drojf                and the pages are outdated to very outdated
14:09 cait                 we are workign on that - you can sign up to help ;)
14:09 drojf                but it takes hours to upgrade an article if you want to actually test step by step instructions and stuff
14:10 cait                 it doesn't make much sense to have translators if there is not much contribution from them
14:10 cait                 ugh
14:10 cait                 curators :)
14:10 cait                 translators are awesome
14:10 ashimema             lol
14:11 drojf                i proposed to abandon the position some release cycles ago but nobody cared
14:11 tcohen               It is not just curators
14:11 cait                 I will support you next time around
14:11 cait                 let's start somewhere :)
14:12 cait                 i think it woudl be important to update our wiki
14:12 drojf                i don't see why we have a position that is listed everywhere and has lead to hardly any contribution
14:12 tcohen               we need to collectively think about the subject: how to welcome new contributors
14:12 tcohen               and Jonathan created a very godo template for people to add
14:12 cait                 atm handling the cateogories and all that is not ideal
14:12 tcohen               to
14:12 drojf                and that keeps others from doing that
14:13 drojf                [off] the live dvd manager was a more successful position
14:13 cait                 [off] ouch
14:13 drojf                but enough ranting
14:14 * ashimema           reads up on wiki related chatter
14:15 * ashimema           has thought for a while that actually just starting again on the wiki might be a good idea..
14:15 drojf                i will look through the links Joubu sent tomorrow, maybe i can help with something
14:15 ashimema             and just manually migrating very small portions as we decide we want them
14:15 cait                 hm we did it once
14:15 drojf                ashimema: yes
14:15 cait                 we could do it again
14:15 ashimema             I bet 90% of it is never looked at or entirely wrong
14:15 cait                 we could move good parts over still
14:15 cait                 but we'd lose contribution - not sureif that woudl matter
14:15 cait                 attribution?
14:15 wahanui              it has been said that attribution is always a good idea
14:16 drojf                standard stuff like debian installation still works, or sql reports, or others. lots of things are just ancient text not related to modern koha
14:16 tcohen               we can keep those, and let curators care about them
14:17 tcohen               but we really need a decent landing page
14:17 tcohen               without the categories stuff
14:17 tcohen               with simple organization to reach what new contributors need
14:17 ashimema             I agree.. we need a solid landing page and a solid set of initial content
14:17 ashimema             what's holding back new contribution in my opinion is how hard it is to contribute.. and that's mostly because of some terrible plugins we have enabled and a very old version of mediawiki..
14:18 ashimema             migrating from postgres to mysql isn't trivial and is the first step to upgrading from our old mediawiki..
14:18 drojf                ashimema: i remember you wanted to migrate/upgrade some time ago
14:18 ashimema             hence my suggestion of 'just start again with a fresh install'
14:19 oleonard             I wonder if you could copy the contents of the existing wiki to an upgraded staging server and somehow hide all the articles until they'd been edited.
14:19 ashimema             but as cait says.. we'd loose attribution for stuff we manually migrate across.. it's whether we really care about that ;)
14:19 drojf                i agree. can't we get a new wiki, copy and update relevant content and then burn the old one?
14:19 ashimema             feel free to suggest it as the next meeting ;)
14:19 ashimema             I'd back that approach
14:20 cait                 i think me too, have to give it some thought
14:20 cait                 but as I said... won't be the first time
14:20 ashimema             I don't think anyone is going to have the time/inclination for do a proper migration job from postgres to mysql any time soon.. it looks fairly involved when I started investigating it
14:20 drojf                is that a copyright question?
14:20 cait                 we did it after liblime too
14:20 ashimema             not a copyright question really..
14:20 drojf                we could keep the old, link from the articles in the new wiki to the old one and ignore it otherwise. but people will still end up there then
14:20 ashimema             I don't actually know what we copyright our wiki to..
14:21 drojf                CC something, i think
14:21 cait                 Content is available under GNU General Public License 2.0 or later.
14:21 ashimema             indeed.. keeping the old in read-only for a while would be a good thing to do
14:22 ashimema             and linking to it where sensible, copying across where more appropriate etc.
14:22 drojf                cait: where do you find that?
14:22 wahanui              rumour has it that is less clunky than he or she eh
14:22 drojf                ah
14:22 drojf                sorry
14:22 drojf                fine print ;)
14:22 ashimema             it's ages since I setup a mediawiki.. think it's pretty darn straight forward still
14:23 cait                 footer
14:23 cait                 add it to the next agenda now :)
14:24 ashimema             is there a page for that yet?
14:24 ashimema             fancy adding it cait?
14:25 cait                 not right now, sorry
14:26 Joubu                you are talking about rewriting the wiki, I am talking about rewriting 3-5 pages
14:26 Joubu                and after 2w and did not move forward
14:27 drojf                https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Legoktm/Packages
14:28 cait                 Joubu: you know how it is... we'd rather change the tool :)
14:28 drojf                Joubu: doing that has been a topic for years. yours is just s few weeks old :P
14:28 drojf                *a
14:29 cait                 and the update might have us redo things anyway
14:29 * drojf              hides
14:29 Joubu                yes, let's start with the beginning, first item next meeting "Choose a new wiki engine"
14:29 Joubu                mine has been set as "high priority"
14:30 Joubu                read "if you want to help, do that, everything else is less important"
14:33 ashimema             I was thinking of a landing page a bit more along the lines of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page
14:34 ashimema             with clear jump points.. I can't really do any of that sort of thing with the current versions of plugins and mediawiki ;)
14:34 cait                 make it simple to write a bit prettier pages would be enough for me
14:35 cait                 i think some of the category plugins had to be turned off anyway and there was trouble with people using the other editor destroying pages
14:35 cait                 avoiding these kind of things would be nice
14:35 drojf                when i tried to steal formatting from wikipedia, it just did not work in our wiki because it#s too old or does not have regular plugins of 2017
14:37 Joubu                ashimema: it's what jajm suggests on the pad
14:42 drojf                later #koha
14:52 oleonard             Joubu: I must admit I don't really understand what kind of help you're looking for.
14:53 oleonard             Is your top priority to re-work the wiki main page?
15:01 reiveune             bye
15:01 cait                 oleonard: rewriting/updating the most important pages i think
15:12 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18296: Remove perlcritic error (request.pl) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5b046599b6604c6cfd681d8392c560b3df738d2>
15:24 huginn               New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18759: Try to fix random failure from Circulation.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a55f5783c91b92cb8518f423ab23bd9727051ee>
15:29 cait                 argh
15:29 cait                 no JSON reports with plack in 3.22? :(
15:30 cait                 oh good, was just a mistake in the url
15:30 cait                 nm
15:43 Joubu                @later tell rangi apparently I am not allowed to edit the main page of the wiki, could you add the link to [[Getting involved]] please?
15:43 huginn               Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:44 Joubu                @later tell rangi and maybe remove the "Wiki accounts" block?
15:44 huginn               Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:45 Joubu                ashimema: I have moved https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Getting_involved
15:45 Joubu                but
15:45 Joubu                https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developer_handbook still show "I want to help"
15:45 Joubu                how can I edit it?
15:52 cait                 ah tricky a template
15:52 cait                 Joubu: maybe i will remember sec
15:55 cait                 magnuse would know
15:55 cait                 ah
15:55 cait                 click edit
15:55 cait                 then scroll down
15:56 cait                 Template used on this page:  Template:DevBook (edit)
15:57 Joubu                cait: nope
15:57 Joubu                it looks like a bug actually, since the page has been moved the new one should be used
16:00 cait                 no
16:00 cait                 it's not automatic
16:00 cait                 welll... maybe it could
16:00 cait                 maybe it is in a newer version? :)
16:00 cait                 i will change it
16:01 cait                 fixed
16:01 Joubu                how did you do that?! :)
16:01 cait                 Edit page - scroll down - find the other hidden edit link next to the template name .)
16:02 cait                 below 'save page'
16:02 cait                 it says Template used on this page
16:02 cait                 and then there is an edit link there
16:02 cait                 i have looked for that so many times by now, i still struggle to remember how to do that
16:02 Joubu                ha yes, got it!
16:05 cait                 bye all
16:23 ashimema             well done cait
16:46 kidclamp             oleonard++
16:46 oleonard             I know these shoes /are/ pretty nice aren't they?
16:50 kidclamp             now i wanna see
16:58 jenkins              Project Koha_Master_D8 build #193: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/193/
16:58 jenkins              jonathan.druart: Bug 18296: Remove perlcritic error (request.pl)
16:58 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Items - Remove GetItemInfosOf
17:01 * oleonard           hopes talljoy_candyhunting bags herself a sixteen-point Snickers bar.
17:23 talljoy_candyhunting oleonard, scored a sharing size caramel m and m bag!
17:30 oleonard             sharing size == under no circumstances share
18:42 jenkins              Project Koha_Master_D8 build #194: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/194/
18:42 jenkins              jonathan.druart: Bug 18759: Try to fix random failure from Circulation.t
18:42 huginn               04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18759 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation.t is failing randomly
18:45 Joubu                @later tell tcohen t/db_dependent/Search.t "l.665         getRecords" raises a warning, do you know if it is expected?
18:45 huginn               Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:53 rangi                morning
19:53 eythian              Evening
19:54 eythian              You have a clone here.
19:54 rangi                orly?
19:55 eythian              You+_
19:55 rangi                ahh i see, from .eu
19:55 eythian              Yeah
19:56 eythian              Didn't expect you to be the one to try installations on Windows though.
19:57 rangi                heh
19:57 rangi                Joubu: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page hows that?
20:05 Joubu                rangi: yes thx, it works for now
20:07 rangi                @later tell fridolin 17.05 branch is pushed now
20:07 huginn               rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:30 cait1                eythian: maybe his evil twin?
20:32 * cait1              waves at kathryn
20:32 kathryn              hi cait1 :)
20:33 cait1                oh again?
20:33 cait                 better
20:33 * cait               stretches
20:33 kathryn              yeah :) there you are
20:44 * magnuse            waves from the land of the midnight sun
21:09 eythian              cait: most likely
21:43 adminuser            quit
21:43 adminuser            q
21:43 adminuser            exit
21:43 aleisha              try with a / at the front
21:46 aleisha              bye
22:27 vegasjoe             Hello. Is anybody using Percona?
22:38 vegasjoe             test this
23:30 * magnuse            has been watching the midnight sun not setting
23:39 bag                  how late does it stay up magnuse ?
23:39 bag                  does it ever set?
23:39 magnuse              it never sets
23:40 magnuse              well, not until early july
23:40 bag                  Our’s currently sets at around 21:10
23:40 bag                  @weather bodo
23:40 huginn               bag: Error: Could not find weather information.  (This may be a bug. If you think it is, please file a bug report at <http://sourceforge.net/tr acker/?func=add&group_id=58965&atid=489447>.)
23:40 bag                  @wunder boo
23:40 huginn               bag: Error: No such location could be found.
23:41 bag                  @wunder bodo
23:41 huginn               bag: Error: No such location could be found.
23:41 bag                  @wunder pdx
23:41 huginn               bag: Error: No such location could be found.
23:41 bag                  :P
23:41 magnuse              bag: not too bad, i guess ;-)
23:43 Francesca            @wunder wlg
23:43 huginn               Francesca: Error: No such location could be found.
23:54 wizzyrea             hi Francesca
23:54 Francesca            hi wizzyrea!
23:54 wizzyrea             @wunder nzwn
23:54 huginn               wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found.
23:54 wizzyrea             ooo
23:54 Francesca            O.o
23:55 wizzyrea             @wunder wellington, NZ
23:55 huginn               wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found.
23:55 Francesca            we don't exist
23:55 wizzyrea             :( he's broken
23:55 wizzyrea             @wunder 66047
23:55 huginn               wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found.
23:55 Francesca            how are you?
23:58 Francesca            ok I gotta vanish
23:58 Francesca            see ya