Time  Nick        Message
05:21 mveron-away Good morning / daytime #koha
05:46 mveron-away @wunder Allschwil
05:46 huginn_     mveron-away: Error: No such location could be found.
05:48 * mveron    looks out of the window. Tiny layer of white clouds, blue sky visible.
06:06 ashimema    @wunder stevenage, uk
06:06 huginn_     ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
06:33 * magnuse   waves
06:37 * mveron    waves back
06:46 alex_a      bonjour
06:46 magnuse     god morgen alex_a
06:50 alex_a      salut magnuse
06:51 fridolin    hie tehre
07:09 mveron      Meeting...
07:09 wahanui     i guess meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then
07:31 oha         o/
07:55 reiveune    hello
08:31 eythian     hi
08:31 wahanui     salut, eythian
08:37 gaetan_B    hello
11:40 oleonard    Hi all
12:33 eythian     https://www.facebook.com/vdsdortmund/photos/a.115681158506790.20628.114191431989096/1457516424323250/?type=3&theater <-- cait
12:38 Joubu       kidclamp: around?
12:38 kidclamp    o/
12:38 Joubu       kidclamp: maybe a bit too early for me, but I do not understand barton's comment on bug 18651
12:38 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled
12:39 Joubu       well actually yes I understand it, but what he describes must be fixed (by 18242)
12:40 Joubu       on the other hand I admit I completely failed to fix the original problem we found yesterday, but fixed 3 others...
12:40 kidclamp    that was going to be my question for you though :-) doesn't the scenario I described yesterday shwo that 18242 doesn't always work?
12:40 kidclamp    hah!
12:40 kidclamp    exactly, he wants to fix the original
12:40 kidclamp    also, barton, maybe you want to jump in
12:40 barton      looking at 18242...
12:40 Joubu       I think what bartin describes is fixed
12:41 kidclamp    hmmm
12:42 barton      kidclamp: look at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18242#c21
12:42 huginn_     04Bug 18242: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts to old_issues is not handle correctly
12:43 kidclamp    he is describing the same thing I described in my email
12:44 barton      Joubu, does 18242 fix the auto_increment itself?
12:45 Joubu       barton: 18242 executes the move in a transaction (avoid data lost) and will check if the id already exists in old_issues
12:45 Joubu       if already exists, the id is changed to MAX(issue_id) FROM old_issues
12:45 Joubu       +1 !
12:45 kidclamp    but that number may already exist in issues, and the update fails
12:46 Joubu       max(issue_id) from old_issues + 1 cannot exist
12:47 Joubu       it's max +1 :)
12:47 Joubu       ha in issues
12:47 kidclamp    but we are changing the issue_id before the move right?
12:47 Joubu       yes, but that does not matter
12:47 kidclamp    so we try to update, and it fails
12:47 Joubu       ha...
12:47 Joubu       reading the code
12:48 marcelr     hi #koha
12:48 Joubu       indeed
12:48 Joubu       this sounds very stupid :)
12:48 Joubu       hi marcelr
12:48 marcelr     hi Joubu
12:49 marcelr     could you pass qa on the moremembers bug
12:50 Joubu       marcelr: nope :p
12:50 Joubu       we do not need this variable
12:50 marcelr     why not?
12:50 marcelr     i remember crashing on it
12:50 Joubu       marcelr: 290 $template->param(%$data);
12:51 Joubu       patron-title.inc need patron's info, there are either picked from borrower.$field, or $field
12:51 Joubu       in moremember we have $field, because of l.290
12:51 Joubu       we just need to reset the state to the one before the patron's club ft
12:51 Joubu       and so delete the line
12:51 tcohen      good catch, Joubu
12:51 marcelr     ok
12:51 Joubu       unless you see something I don't
12:52 marcelr     will adjust it (again)
12:52 tcohen      I didn't understand where it was being populated
12:52 eythian     hi marcelr
12:52 marcelr     hi
12:52 wahanui     salut, marcelr
12:52 marcelr     will restart a plack a few times ;)
12:52 Joubu       kidclamp: ok will write a patch, sounds fun...
12:52 kidclamp    heh
12:53 barton      Joubu, I'd be more comfortable if we updated the new issue_id in old_issues to IF( max(issues.issue_id) > max(old_issues.issue_id), max(issues.issue_id), max(old_issues.issue_id) ), *and* set the auto_increment to that + 1, in a single transaction.
12:54 mveron      Hi again #koha
12:55 barton      morning mveron!
12:55 mveron      good afternoon barton :-)
12:56 barton      heh.
13:00 marcelr     mveron: 18647 was not trivial after all
13:00 marcelr     that trivial
13:05 marcelr     khall: when do you exactly plan to release this week (if etc.) ?
13:06 tcohen      26th
13:07 marcelr     friday morning, afternoon ?
13:07 mveron      marcelr: Nope. But I was totally wrong if I read back the logs...
13:07 marcelr     hi mveron
13:07 mveron      Daag marcelr :-)
13:08 mveron      Wat een weertje vandaag...
13:08 khall       marcelr: probably late on friday. I'll be in the middle of moving into a new house
13:09 marcelr     good timing :)
13:09 marcelr     will be qaing on friday morning then
13:10 marcelr     mveron: the summer is this week in europe
13:11 * mveron    sends some ice cream...
13:42 barton      Joubu, I just got to thinking about the fix you describe in bug 18242. We need to think about what that does to accountlines.
13:42 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18242 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts to old_issues is not handle correctly
13:42 Joubu       barton: done on 18651
13:43 barton      ok, just making sure :-).
13:49 Joubu       barton, kidclamp: should be ok now
13:49 barton      Joubu++
13:56 cait        hm lots of errors in our rss form the result list
14:14 oleonard    cait: Validation errors, or broken?
14:16 cait        validation errors
14:17 cait        an the library says that it's not recognized by a feed reader, i have asked for more information about what they use
14:17 eythian     presumably running it through a validator will tell you what's up
14:19 cait        yep they did that
14:20 cait        does not validate, just wondering if it might be fixed in newer versions, will have to check that later
14:22 cait        oleonard++ eythian++
14:23 oleonard    Looks like 16.11 is better: https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.myacpl.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkoha%2Fopac-search.pl%3Fidx%3Dkw%26q%3Dgraphic%252520novel%26count%3D50%26sort_by%3Dacqdate_dsc%26format%3Drss2
14:24 cait        yep
14:24 cait        good to know!
14:39 jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #179: ABORTED in 1 hr 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/179/
14:44 baptiste    :q
15:04 reiveune    bye
15:22 Joubu       khall: I am not sure I understand your comment on bug 18651
15:22 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move of checkouts is still not correctly handled
15:23 Joubu       which loop are you talking about?
15:25 khall       Joubu: added a splinter review to the bug
15:28 Joubu       khall: I do not think we could have a race condition, the whole sequence is executed inside a transaction
15:29 khall       Joubu: it would be two separate processes running that code simultaneously. One would win, and the other would attempt to insert a duplicate issue_id into old_issues
15:32 Joubu       ok got it
15:33 Joubu       then we could use the LOCK TABLE trick we used for notices
15:33 Joubu       in SendCirculationAlert
15:34 khall       Joubu: yes, that sounds like a good solution!
15:35 khall       Joubu: sometimes I wonder if we should just merge the old_issues table with the issues table. It seems like we really jump through hoops that we shouldn't have to
15:35 Joubu       yes of course we should
15:35 khall       put that in Taiga and I'll take it ; )
15:35 Joubu       merge all of the old_ & deleted_ tables
15:36 khall       agreed
15:36 Joubu       I already tried several times to raise the problem on the list, but it does not interest a lot of people
15:37 khall       Joubu: I'd be happy to do that work as part of my community volunteering
15:38 Joubu       noted
15:47 * mveron    has just filed bug 18662 - but no time to sort it out
15:47 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18662 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can not delete any curreny (used by Koha::Acquisition::Booksellers=HASH(0xec48a4c) vendors)
15:47 * mveron    is called
15:55 * Joubu     takes it
16:52 greenjimll  Just tried the patch for bug 18662 on our Koha test instance and it seems to work OK (by following the test plan of create a new currency and then delete it).
16:52 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18662 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Can not delete currencies
16:53 cait        cool
16:53 cait        then you can sign off :)
17:07 greenjimll  Ah, looks like it already is signed off. I didn't realise anyone could sign off - sorry.
17:37 oleonard    Just had an interesting phone call with someone at Midwest Tapes to talk about the API for their Hoopla product.
17:38 oleonard    It's not as full-featured as I hoped, I think in part because they initially developed it with Sirsi's needs in mind.
19:12 oleonard    kidclamp++ # thanks for the dev meeting reminder
19:14 * kidclamp  has to remind kidclamp too
19:19 Joubu       kidclamp, tcohen: bug 18600 and bug 18663 fixes 2 jenkins failures, very easy
19:19 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Missing db update for TalkingTechItivaPhoneNotification
19:19 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18663 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Missing db update for ExportRemoveFields
19:34 Joubu       kidclamp, tcohen: and bug 18664
19:34 huginn_     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18664 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , IssueSlip.t is failing - IssueSlip should return if params are not valid
19:48 tcohen      later #koha
20:06 Joubu       @later tell tcohen bug 18289 comment 3
20:06 huginn_     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
21:00 rangi       hmm josef isnt on irc eh?
21:01 cait        not often, sometimes
21:01 cait        was at the last meetings
21:01 rangi       do you know their nick?
21:03 cait        not without looking in the logs :)
21:04 rangi       :)
21:04 rangi       was just gonna up the karma they signed off the workaround patch already
21:08 bag         heya cait
21:08 cait        hey bag :)
21:11 Joubu       rangi: josef_moravec++ :)
21:13 rangi       josef_moravec++
22:10 eythian     Yo rangi
22:16 KatieCPL    Hello all, our library is beginning the process of creating genre sections for some of our adult ficiton section. As a cataloguer, what is the easiest way to edit our current records for our patrons to be able to search/locate by genre? Would it have to be a call number change? Create new collection codes? Any ideas are appreciated.
22:17 KatieCPL    BRB, I have to switch computers...
22:17 rangi       heya eythian
22:17 wahanui     i heard eythian was Time's Person of the Year for 2006.
22:18 rangi       eythian: this had just popped up in my timeline again for some reason https://natlib.govt.nz/blog/posts/heritagepreserve#lessons
22:26 eythian     Neat
22:31 rangi       hi Katie_CPL
22:31 rangi       I would use collection codes
22:31 Katie_CPL   Hello all, sorry for the delay.
22:31 cait        collections are easy to search for from the advanced search
22:31 cait        that's a definite plus
22:32 Katie_CPL   CCodes was what I was thinking too. We are trying to not have to change the spine labels. We plan on adding genre labels instead.
22:32 cait        if you need more than one per item, maybe subjects - but not as easy to search from advanced search
22:33 Katie_CPL   We are trying to place each item under only one genre. We were going to use primary the 655 field as our guide.
22:33 cait        makes sense
22:33 cait        brb
22:34 Katie_CPL   Yeah, collections seem to be easy for the KOHA search engine
22:35 rangi       useful trivia, Koha is a māori word, not an acronym so you don't have to capitalise it (unless you really really really want to ;))
22:35 Katie_CPL   Lol, Rangi. Good to know. :)
22:37 Katie_CPL   Speaking of the Koha search engine, our library has been experiencing a hard time since migration last year with the search parameters being too vague. It will pull words like 'the' and 'an', and it won't pick your exact string of words as a top result. Is there a way to reconfigure this or is it a bug?
22:38 cait        try taking a look at the parameters under search in administration
22:38 rangi       do you have fuzzy or stemming switched on in the systempreferences? there are a few settings there, I would try changing them
22:38 rangi       and see if you get better results
22:38 cait        yep
22:39 rangi       yeah, what cait said
22:39 cait        hehe
22:39 cait        queryautotruncate
22:39 wahanui     i guess queryautotruncate is your usual suspect when something goes wrong
22:39 cait        and fuzzy
22:39 cait        i think are good candidates to start with
22:39 Katie_CPL   Aha, I will try those things. Thank you all so much for the help. :)
22:39 cait        you are welcome
22:40 cait        :)
22:40 * cait      has to go to sleep - bye #koha
22:40 rangi       cya cait