Time Nick Message 21:13 kidclamp np, sorry I tried to derail your bug :-) 20:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 20:55 mtompset kidclamp++ # thanks for the sign off. :) 20:32 kidclamp mtompsett++ 17:32 rickx Thank you anyway 17:28 rickx :( 17:27 oleonard Sorry rickx maybe if I had a stiff drink I could come up with a good way to customize that 17:23 rickx I did something on the leader and 007 tags but I do not understand how to do it on the tag 008 17:20 rickx I try to change the default values of some drop-down list positions in tag 008 17:20 eythian oleonard is probably not sober, he just plays it on IRC. 17:18 oleonard rickx: I'm sober. What are you trying to change? 17:16 eythian rickx: you're on the end of a Friday, it's quite possible most people are at the pub or sleeping off hangovers, depending on timezone :) 17:12 rickx Could someone guide me? 17:12 rickx But I can not 17:12 rickx marc21_field_008.tt, marc21_field_008.pl and marc21_field_008.xml 17:12 rickx I tried editing the files: 17:12 rickx I want to change the default information on the tag 008 17:11 rickx Hi everyone! 17:10 eythian http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a14948/the-brontosaurus-is-back/ <-- wizzyrea, in case Soren doesn't already know. 17:04 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs 17:04 barton ^^ for bug 18502 17:04 barton Joubu++ 16:56 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs 16:56 jenkins jonathan.druart: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs 16:56 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/164/ 16:53 * rickx slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot 16:34 rickx How can I manipulate the default information on the tag 008? 16:33 rickx I have a technical question about koha 16:33 rickx Hello everyone 16:26 huginn_ magnuse: The operation succeeded. 16:26 magnuse @later tell rangi i tried to create an epub from the docs (master branch) and got some errors. are patches to the docs mailing list still the preferred way to contribute? 16:26 * oleonard doesn't see a way to delete a stock rotation rota 16:24 * magnuse will be developing against it 16:24 magnuse but will push for it to get in early after the release 16:24 * magnuse will not try to get ill into 17.05, then 16:21 oleonard Thanks Joubu 16:18 Joubu With html tags inside the TT tags 16:18 Joubu It certainly needs to be [% IF cond %]<td>Yes</td>[% ELSE %]<td>No</td>[% END %] 16:17 Joubu Nope 16:11 oleonard I wonder if that is translatable 16:11 oleonard <td>[% rota.cyclical ? 'Yes' : 'No'%]</td> 15:19 huginn_ New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d941f36c72cedd1f006025393b194a8d695e298> 15:15 huginn_ tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:15 tcohen @later tell drojf can u please let me know the status of the OpenAPI, newer Mojo and JSON::Validator packaging? 15:10 Joubu rrrhonda: Are you familiar with Koha? With bugzilla? 15:09 * Joubu is searching on the wiki for the correct documentation 15:09 wahanui eythian: I forgot librarian 15:09 eythian wahanui: forget librarian 15:08 oleonard Don't worry about wahanui rrrhonda, it's a bot 15:08 rrrhonda with a background in programing 15:07 wahanui i guess librarian is giving evergreen a look over two. I'd like to be able to say don't bother. but i can't yet 15:07 rrrhonda librarian 15:07 Joubu rrrhonda: Who are you? :) Developper or librarian? 15:07 rrrhonda A little of both. I think testing patches would be a good place to start. 15:05 oleonard What kind of testing? General testing for learning purposes or testing patches? 15:04 rrrhonda Hi, I would like help getting started with koha testing. 15:03 oleonard Hi evantill and rrrhonda 14:41 oleonard In what is surely a metaphor of American politics, killing my devbox and starting over did not solve my problem. 14:36 atheia oleonard: that's some decent gallow's humour you got going there… ;-) 14:35 atheia Do I have to register the ILL permission within the superlibrarian permission somehow? 14:35 atheia However when the 'superlibrarian' permission is set for that same user, the permission returns false. 14:34 atheia So, I have a permissions check that checks for the ILL permission. When the ILL permission is explicitly set for a user, the link appears correctly. 14:31 reiveune bye 14:24 tcohen \o 14:24 barton hey #koha, I'mm adding names to the 'firendly guides' list on the GBSD page ( http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10 ) ... I've got myself and oleonard. Anyone else want to throw their hat in the ring? Joubu? kidclamp? tcohen? 14:21 * oleonard takes away his devbox's health care and waits for it to die 14:09 barton aha. 14:08 kidclamp the one without is a list of bugs from joubu 14:08 kidclamp http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10 14:08 barton looks like someone already edited the page title and removed that. 14:07 kidclamp make sure you have the exclamation point 14:07 kidclamp edit the page if you wish 14:07 barton kidclamp: is there a 'hand-holders' list?, if so, where do I add myself? (I prefer 'freindly guide' over 'hand-holders' :-) 14:03 barton thanks kidclamp! 14:02 * kidclamp shouldn't put exclamation marks in wiki titles 14:01 kidclamp you can add yourself as a 'hand-holder' for gbsd 14:01 kidclamp oleonard, barton: my links were bad in original email - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2017-05-10_Global_bug_squashing_day_-_Bugs_only_edition! 13:51 Joubu alexbuckley: answered :) 13:43 Joubu ) 13:43 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16221 enhancement, P2, ---, abl, RESOLVED FIXED, Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode 13:43 Joubu (see also Bug 16221: Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode 13:43 atheia magnuse: I can confirm the link issue here. Odd, not sure how that was introduced, but will test your suggested fix. 13:42 ashimema I've read that exact statement a few days ago and wasn't sure which way to go in his code 13:41 ashimema hehe 13:41 * Joubu returned to what he did before 13:41 Joubu sorry to distract the attention 13:40 Joubu "Storable's dclone() is a flexible solution for cloning variables, albeit slower for average-sized data structures. Simple and naive benchmarks show that Clone is faster for data structures with 3 or fewer levels, while dclone() can be faster for structures 4 or more levels deep." 13:40 atheia oleonard: indeed… odd — but glad to hear it's applied cleanly now at least… 13:39 ashimema that's really odd oleonard 13:39 * oleonard tries 11897 in a different VM and it applies just fine 13:39 Joubu I am definitely for big things pushed early 13:38 * ashimema is glad he pointed that out/asked that question 13:38 atheia Personally I am super confident about stockrotation, and am very happy with it's quality — ILL is getting there, but it's not on the level of stockrot. 13:38 ashimema hehe.. :) 13:37 Joubu nope, forget it :) 13:37 atheia Joubu: yeah, it's a deep-hash. would that work in that context too? 13:37 atheia That's why getting it in would be beneficial — as a solid ground for dev. 13:37 Joubu indeed 13:37 atheia I think having it in relatively early in the next release would provide a great incentive to incrementally improve it over the course of the next cycle — A big part of the complexity around ILL and testing is that we need people to develop against it to get it tested properly. 13:36 ashimema I got bit by that recently ;) 13:36 ashimema sure it's not a deep hash Joubu? 13:36 Joubu atheia: cloning (Clone::clone) hashref can be avoided easily with `my $clone = { %hash };` 13:35 atheia There might also be some issues around deployment/installation. 13:35 atheia Joubu, magnuse I personally feel ILL is at a decent initial sign off stage — but I am well aware that it falls short of the high standards that new code should follow — unit tests are patchy, documentation is iffy, and there is some legacy code. 13:35 ashimema and to allow lots of testing whilst in the cycle 13:35 ashimema but I would like it in as early as possible next cycle.. to ensure it's fairly back portable for those that want to undertake that for 16.05 ;) 13:34 ashimema yeah.. ILL is certainly prime time for testing.. but not 100% for push.. needs some more tests writing as you've spotted Joubu 13:34 * tcohen needs coffee 13:34 * oleonard too, ashimema 13:33 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=63084 => contains lot of FIXME: need tests 13:33 * ashimema also feels the same about the 'clubs' feature that was just pushed :( 13:33 Joubu I do not decide 13:33 oleonard Yeah I don't think we should rush this in. Too big. 13:33 atheia Agreed. 13:33 Joubu ashimema: I am not RM :) 13:33 ashimema we're confident it's pretty solid.. BUT yeah.. in 5K lines there's allot of scope for something/anything to have been missed. 13:33 oleonard Oh I see Joubu. I didn't see the context 13:32 ashimema atheia and I were both thinking it would be great to push it just after the release now.. so it's in nice and early in the next cycle but not in for this release 13:32 oleonard Joubu: ? 13:31 Joubu A 5k line patch pushed just before the release? 13:31 atheia magnuse: testing now will let you know what I find. 13:30 magnuse but now i gotta pick someone up from kindergarten! 13:30 magnuse except for this i think 7317 is worthy of a signoff and would be awesome to have in 17.05 13:29 magnuse would it be better to check for the permission as well as the syspref? 13:28 magnuse ILL uses [% IF Koha.Preference('ILLModule') %] but all the other modules have e.g. [% IF ( CAN_user_acquisition ) %] 13:28 magnuse atheia, oleonard: [% USE Koha %] at the top of intranet-main.tt makes the ILL link appear 13:23 atheia (You can dm me if you prefer) 13:23 atheia Thanks for that! If you still get the error, would you mind sending me the commands you use from master branch, and I'll try to reproduce. 13:19 oleonard I checked before and git status didn't show any relevant untracked files. I'll check again. 13:19 Joubu will remove everything that is not tracked (or ignored) 13:18 Joubu oleonard: only if you know what it does: git clean -d -f 13:18 atheia Joubu, oleonard: also the test files! 13:17 Joubu in your case Koha/StockRotation* 13:16 mveron-away Have a great day / daytime #koha 13:16 Joubu oleonard: git status; rm untracked files you want to rm 13:15 Joubu s/him/something else 13:15 ashimema but I'd nuke those listed untracked files and try re-applying the set to a clean branch 13:15 Joubu git does not like that, you ask him to add a patch whereas the file already exists 13:15 ashimema I'm not sure how you got there.. 13:15 Joubu if you apply the patch, the untracked file will be added 13:15 atheia (Sorry, I think I missed the first part of the conversation…) 13:14 Joubu oleonard: it says that you have the files that are untracked in your repo 13:14 atheia so what was the troublesome patch? 13:14 atheia oleonard: thanks — well… for me the patches apply 100% cleanly using git bz apply on a fresh branch off master… 13:13 atheia magnuse: I'll have a look at this after the stockrotation issue 13:13 atheia magnuse: uff — it's all weirdness with my patches today… 13:12 oleonard I don't know if that error sheds more light or not 13:12 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Using git apply to apply just the troublesome patch on top of the earlier ones" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/403 13:12 cait not sure about the t/db_d... tho 13:12 cait they culd be left over from this 13:12 cait hm did you regeneate the dbic files maybe? 13:12 magnuse atheia: the ill link on the staff home page went away after i applied the rebased patches + the new ones 13:11 atheia hola magnuse! 13:10 magnuse kia ora atheia 13:10 ashimema how have we got untracked files in there 13:10 atheia oleonard: this happens on a clean git branch? 13:10 magnuse tcohen: don't think so? 13:10 ashimema oh.. that's odd 13:10 oleonard http://paste.koha-community.org/402 13:10 ashimema I've just poken alex to come online too 13:09 ashimema fire away oleonard 13:09 tcohen magnuse: you rebased cait? 13:09 magnuse no, that went missing after the rebase and the last patches 13:08 oleonard magnuse: I was just trying to test that and didn't see the ILL link on the home page. Did you? 13:08 cait exam stress > koha fun ? :) 13:08 magnuse the day has just flown by... 13:08 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC 13:08 magnuse gah, i meant to sign off bug 7317 13:08 eythian also, it's friday, I have to attend a geheim genootschap beer meeting tonight, which is good :) 13:07 oleonard Hey ashimema I'm having trouble applying the Stock Rotation patches. Can I ask you about that? 13:06 ashimema 'tis not that bad ;) 13:05 ashimema ;) 13:05 * magnuse gives up 13:05 ashimema `short few years of fun -> exam stress -> work stress -> family stress -> families exam stress -> more work stress -> death` 13:04 ashimema haha. 13:04 * kidclamp left out the fun bits 13:04 ashimema yeah.. college in the UK is much the same.. you can stick to secondary school and skip college and get the same quals at the end of the day 13:04 eythian sounds like a poor work-life balance going on there 13:03 kidclamp preschool -> elementary school -> middle school -> high school -> college -> work -> death 13:03 ashimema pre -> primary -> secondary -> college/sixth form -> university.. that's the standard track in UK 13:03 eythian ashimema: to add to the confusion, college in NZ is both some high schools, and a kind of vocational post-high school institution. 13:02 kidclamp ah, yes, it was a university too, we just never call them that 13:02 ashimema I 'think' college in american translates to uni in uk 13:02 eythian high school is mid teens, university is after high school 13:01 * ashimema completed the course.. also mostly for fun.. 13:01 * magnuse is confused 13:01 magnuse hm, or maybe it would be high school. 13:01 ashimema few physics geeks in here then :) 13:01 ashimema college -> university, physics major -> physics student, track -> course 13:00 * magnuse did physics for fun in "college" too 13:00 * kidclamp wonders which parts get converted 12:59 * ashimema converts that to british english in his head. 12:59 ashimema haha, cool 12:58 * kidclamp was mostly just an Einstein fanboy 12:58 kidclamp I took physics for fun in college - let me tell you, that pisses off physics majors - I didn't complete the track, but got a decent background once upon a time 12:57 * ashimema wonders if kidclamp has a physics background 12:56 ashimema would be surprised if she becomes a particle next time I see her 12:56 kidclamp that's the problem with unit tests 12:56 eythian a.k.a. you break it, you bought it. 12:55 ashimema are you sure about that kidclamp.. last time I looked if you observe it you change it ;) 12:55 kidclamp that's sorted then 12:55 kidclamp cait has declared herself a wave, not a particle 12:53 tcohen hi cait 12:53 cait me waves 12:52 wahanui kamelåså 12:52 tcohen hi magnuse 12:52 magnuse hiya NateC and tcohen 12:50 kidclamp morning magnuse 12:50 magnuse bonjour cait and kidclamp 12:39 magnuse woohoo! 12:39 wahanui well, friday is pizzaday 12:39 magnuse friday? 12:34 eythian i.e. is the ordering correct. 12:34 eythian (then maybe something else depends on them or something.) 12:34 eythian hmm. Speculating, but is your tree clean initially. Then I'd look into the patches, maybe there's something strange with them adding files and removing/renaming them. 12:30 oleonard Why would I get "working tree files would be overwritten by merge" when those files shouldn't be untracked? 12:30 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11897 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Stock Rotation for Koha 12:30 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when applying Bug 11897" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/402 12:16 edveal Happy Friday everyone! 12:14 eythian hello oleopard 12:14 * oleonard whispers hello 11:28 evantill josef_moravec: it's ok with your modification thanks 11:17 evantill josef_moravec: I will try 10:30 josef_moravec eythian: just a try ;) :) 10:27 eythian josef_moravec: fast work :) 10:23 wahanui it has been said that here is where I work 10:23 josef_moravec evantill: still here? 09:47 huginn_ 04Bug 18548: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , running koha-create --request-db without an instance name should abort 09:47 evantill submitted https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18548 09:43 evantill 16.11.07 09:43 evantill thanks a lot 09:42 eythian apt-cache policy koha-common should tell you 09:42 evantill where could I find koha version on my debian ? 09:40 evantill +1 for example discourse.org provide an installation operation mode using docker. It's very practical 09:38 * eythian wants to properly dockerise koha one day, with separate containers for each component. 09:38 eythian see if it works :) but yeah, you'll need to give the instance name. 09:37 eythian actually, it might be fine, but I'm not sure 09:37 eythian I would avoid using - 09:37 evantill I will open a bug. Thanks 09:37 evantill changing my cmd to "koha-create --request-db what-ever-name" will not raise the error 09:36 evantill ithat the probleme 09:36 evantill thanks 09:31 eythian (I'd suggest opening a bug for that if it's true: koha-create should abort if it's missing a name.) 09:30 eythian I feel like you may not be specifying an instance name. 09:29 eythian what is your full command line? 09:25 evantill any advice please ? 09:20 evantill getent: invalid option -- 'k' 09:20 evantill runing 'koha-create --request-db' give me an error 09:19 evantill using mysql on a second node 09:19 evantill on a debian jeesie 09:19 evantill trying to install it using docker 09:19 evantill I am a newbie in koha and it's installation 09:18 wahanui hey, evantill 09:18 evantill hi 08:41 eythian hi 08:31 wahanui fridolin: what? 08:31 fridolin wahanui: howareu 08:31 fridolin hie tehre 08:11 mtj 'vagrant up --provision' seems to still fail for me, and needs to be re-run a few time, before success 08:07 mtj ^ thats safer, and seems to work ok too 08:07 mtj sshd: ALL 08:07 mtj ALL: 192.168.50.10 08:05 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "vagrant up --provision" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/401 08:03 mtj add 'ALL:ALL' to hosts.allow 07:58 BobB still nothing 07:58 BobB the permissions on the folder have been set as low as possible as a last ditch attempt 07:58 BobB this has got me completely stumped 07:57 BobB hey yeah mtj i did all of that 07:54 mtj its possible you have some odd perms on /home/bob/Devbox/Koha... but unlikely 07:52 mtj sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart 07:52 mtj sudo service networking restart 07:51 mtj did you update /etc/hosts.allow ? 07:51 mtj ok 07:47 BobB and nfs-kernel-server 07:47 BobB i already installed it for him :/ 07:47 BobB hey mtj its dilan here 07:47 mtj ^ youll need that package BobB 07:46 mtj $ sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server 07:43 BobB no luck mtj 07:25 mtj the doco needs the nfs stuff as an pre vagrant step 07:23 * mtj hit the same bug about 2 hours ago ... :) 07:23 mtj s/;/:/ 07:22 mtj a brutal workaround for me was to add ALL;ALL to /etc/hosts.allow 07:22 BobB thx mtj, found the section, will try it 07:21 mtj https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox#hostsallow-on-debian-jessie 07:21 mtj BobB: i think your issue is described toward the end.. 07:20 mtj https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox 07:20 wahanui well, permissions is most likely the problem 07:20 BobB permissions? 07:19 BobB mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.50.1:/home/bob/Devbox/Koha 07:19 BobB stdin: is not a tty 07:19 BobB Stderr from the command: 07:19 BobB Stdout from the command: 07:19 BobB mount -o 'vers=3,udp' 192.168.50.1:'/home/bob/Devbox/Koha' /home/vagrant/kohaclone 07:19 BobB Vagrant assumes that this means the command failed! 07:19 BobB The following SSH command responded with a non-zero exit status. 07:19 BobB ==> jessie: Mounting NFS shared folders... 07:19 BobB and getting this message: 07:19 BobB trying to set up a dev box ... 07:18 BobB hi folks 07:17 * magnuse waves 06:53 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 06:53 alex_a bonjour 06:34 reiveune hello 05:18 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Patron card creator: Add a grid to support layout design 05:18 mveron cait: Good morning... You might be interested in bug 18541 - Not yet ready, but it will help to design patron cards... 05:13 * mveron normally gets up at 6 and reads the papers 05:11 BobB ok, not too early 05:10 mveron BobB: It's about 7 am... Coffeetime :-) 05:09 BobB hi mveron - its early where you are :) 05:07 * mveron waves 04:42 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18545 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Remove use of onclick from OPAC Cart 04:42 mveron Koha never sleeps... Bug 18545... Thanks, aleisha 04:41 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 03:21 wahanui hey, wizzyrea 03:21 wizzyrea hi 03:18 rangi hi amitgupta 03:08 amitgupta Hi rangi 03:08 amitgupta hi all 00:37 * kidclamp waves