Time Nick Message 00:37 * kidclamp waves 03:08 amitgupta hi all 03:08 amitgupta Hi rangi 03:18 rangi hi amitgupta 03:21 wizzyrea hi 03:21 wahanui hey, wizzyrea 04:41 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 04:42 mveron Koha never sleeps... Bug 18545... Thanks, aleisha 04:42 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18545 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Remove use of onclick from OPAC Cart 05:07 * mveron waves 05:09 BobB hi mveron - its early where you are :) 05:10 mveron BobB: It's about 7 am... Coffeetime :-) 05:11 BobB ok, not too early 05:13 * mveron normally gets up at 6 and reads the papers 05:18 mveron cait: Good morning... You might be interested in bug 18541 - Not yet ready, but it will help to design patron cards... 05:18 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Patron card creator: Add a grid to support layout design 06:34 reiveune hello 06:53 alex_a bonjour 06:53 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 07:17 * magnuse waves 07:18 BobB hi folks 07:19 BobB trying to set up a dev box ... 07:19 BobB and getting this message: 07:19 BobB ==> jessie: Mounting NFS shared folders... 07:19 BobB The following SSH command responded with a non-zero exit status. 07:19 BobB Vagrant assumes that this means the command failed! 07:19 BobB mount -o 'vers=3,udp' 192.168.50.1:'/home/bob/Devbox/Koha' /home/vagrant/kohaclone 07:19 BobB Stdout from the command: 07:19 BobB Stderr from the command: 07:19 BobB stdin: is not a tty 07:19 BobB mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.50.1:/home/bob/Devbox/Koha 07:20 BobB permissions? 07:20 wahanui well, permissions is most likely the problem 07:20 mtj https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox 07:21 mtj BobB: i think your issue is described toward the end.. 07:21 mtj https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox#hostsallow-on-debian-jessie 07:22 BobB thx mtj, found the section, will try it 07:22 mtj a brutal workaround for me was to add ALL;ALL to /etc/hosts.allow 07:23 mtj s/;/:/ 07:23 * mtj hit the same bug about 2 hours ago ... :) 07:25 mtj the doco needs the nfs stuff as an pre vagrant step 07:43 BobB no luck mtj 07:46 mtj $ sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server 07:47 mtj ^ youll need that package BobB 07:47 BobB hey mtj its dilan here 07:47 BobB i already installed it for him :/ 07:47 BobB and nfs-kernel-server 07:51 mtj ok 07:51 mtj did you update /etc/hosts.allow ? 07:52 mtj sudo service networking restart 07:52 mtj sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart 07:54 mtj its possible you have some odd perms on /home/bob/Devbox/Koha... but unlikely 07:57 BobB hey yeah mtj i did all of that 07:58 BobB this has got me completely stumped 07:58 BobB the permissions on the folder have been set as low as possible as a last ditch attempt 07:58 BobB still nothing 08:03 mtj add 'ALL:ALL' to hosts.allow 08:05 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "vagrant up --provision" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/401 08:07 mtj ALL: 192.168.50.10 08:07 mtj sshd: ALL 08:07 mtj ^ thats safer, and seems to work ok too 08:11 mtj 'vagrant up --provision' seems to still fail for me, and needs to be re-run a few time, before success 08:31 fridolin hie tehre 08:31 fridolin wahanui: howareu 08:31 wahanui fridolin: what? 08:41 eythian hi 09:18 evantill hi 09:18 wahanui hey, evantill 09:19 evantill I am a newbie in koha and it's installation 09:19 evantill trying to install it using docker 09:19 evantill on a debian jeesie 09:19 evantill using mysql on a second node 09:20 evantill runing 'koha-create --request-db' give me an error 09:20 evantill getent: invalid option -- 'k' 09:25 evantill any advice please ? 09:29 eythian what is your full command line? 09:30 eythian I feel like you may not be specifying an instance name. 09:31 eythian (I'd suggest opening a bug for that if it's true: koha-create should abort if it's missing a name.) 09:36 evantill thanks 09:36 evantill ithat the probleme 09:37 evantill changing my cmd to "koha-create --request-db what-ever-name" will not raise the error 09:37 evantill I will open a bug. Thanks 09:37 eythian I would avoid using - 09:37 eythian actually, it might be fine, but I'm not sure 09:38 eythian see if it works :) but yeah, you'll need to give the instance name. 09:38 * eythian wants to properly dockerise koha one day, with separate containers for each component. 09:40 evantill +1 for example discourse.org provide an installation operation mode using docker. It's very practical 09:42 evantill where could I find koha version on my debian ? 09:42 eythian apt-cache policy koha-common should tell you 09:43 evantill thanks a lot 09:43 evantill 16.11.07 09:47 evantill submitted https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18548 09:47 huginn_ 04Bug 18548: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , running koha-create --request-db without an instance name should abort 10:23 josef_moravec evantill: still here? 10:23 wahanui it has been said that here is where I work 10:27 eythian josef_moravec: fast work :) 10:30 josef_moravec eythian: just a try ;) :) 11:17 evantill josef_moravec: I will try 11:28 evantill josef_moravec: it's ok with your modification thanks 12:14 * oleonard whispers hello 12:14 eythian hello oleopard 12:16 edveal Happy Friday everyone! 12:30 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when applying Bug 11897" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/402 12:30 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11897 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Stock Rotation for Koha 12:30 oleonard Why would I get "working tree files would be overwritten by merge" when those files shouldn't be untracked? 12:34 eythian hmm. Speculating, but is your tree clean initially. Then I'd look into the patches, maybe there's something strange with them adding files and removing/renaming them. 12:34 eythian (then maybe something else depends on them or something.) 12:34 eythian i.e. is the ordering correct. 12:39 magnuse friday? 12:39 wahanui well, friday is pizzaday 12:39 magnuse woohoo! 12:50 magnuse bonjour cait and kidclamp 12:50 kidclamp morning magnuse 12:52 magnuse hiya NateC and tcohen 12:52 tcohen hi magnuse 12:52 wahanui kamelåså 12:53 cait me waves 12:53 tcohen hi cait 12:55 kidclamp cait has declared herself a wave, not a particle 12:55 kidclamp that's sorted then 12:55 ashimema are you sure about that kidclamp.. last time I looked if you observe it you change it ;) 12:56 eythian a.k.a. you break it, you bought it. 12:56 kidclamp that's the problem with unit tests 12:56 ashimema would be surprised if she becomes a particle next time I see her 12:57 * ashimema wonders if kidclamp has a physics background 12:58 kidclamp I took physics for fun in college - let me tell you, that pisses off physics majors - I didn't complete the track, but got a decent background once upon a time 12:58 * kidclamp was mostly just an Einstein fanboy 12:59 ashimema haha, cool 12:59 * ashimema converts that to british english in his head. 13:00 * kidclamp wonders which parts get converted 13:00 * magnuse did physics for fun in "college" too 13:01 ashimema college -> university, physics major -> physics student, track -> course 13:01 ashimema few physics geeks in here then :) 13:01 magnuse hm, or maybe it would be high school. 13:01 * magnuse is confused 13:01 * ashimema completed the course.. also mostly for fun.. 13:02 eythian high school is mid teens, university is after high school 13:02 ashimema I 'think' college in american translates to uni in uk 13:02 kidclamp ah, yes, it was a university too, we just never call them that 13:03 eythian ashimema: to add to the confusion, college in NZ is both some high schools, and a kind of vocational post-high school institution. 13:03 ashimema pre -> primary -> secondary -> college/sixth form -> university.. that's the standard track in UK 13:03 kidclamp preschool -> elementary school -> middle school -> high school -> college -> work -> death 13:04 eythian sounds like a poor work-life balance going on there 13:04 ashimema yeah.. college in the UK is much the same.. you can stick to secondary school and skip college and get the same quals at the end of the day 13:04 * kidclamp left out the fun bits 13:04 ashimema haha. 13:05 ashimema `short few years of fun -> exam stress -> work stress -> family stress -> families exam stress -> more work stress -> death` 13:05 * magnuse gives up 13:05 ashimema ;) 13:06 ashimema 'tis not that bad ;) 13:07 oleonard Hey ashimema I'm having trouble applying the Stock Rotation patches. Can I ask you about that? 13:08 eythian also, it's friday, I have to attend a geheim genootschap beer meeting tonight, which is good :) 13:08 magnuse gah, i meant to sign off bug 7317 13:08 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC 13:08 magnuse the day has just flown by... 13:08 cait exam stress > koha fun ? :) 13:08 oleonard magnuse: I was just trying to test that and didn't see the ILL link on the home page. Did you? 13:09 magnuse no, that went missing after the rebase and the last patches 13:09 tcohen magnuse: you rebased cait? 13:09 ashimema fire away oleonard 13:10 ashimema I've just poken alex to come online too 13:10 oleonard http://paste.koha-community.org/402 13:10 ashimema oh.. that's odd 13:10 magnuse tcohen: don't think so? 13:10 atheia oleonard: this happens on a clean git branch? 13:10 ashimema how have we got untracked files in there 13:10 magnuse kia ora atheia 13:11 atheia hola magnuse! 13:12 magnuse atheia: the ill link on the staff home page went away after i applied the rebased patches + the new ones 13:12 cait hm did you regeneate the dbic files maybe? 13:12 cait they culd be left over from this 13:12 cait not sure about the t/db_d... tho 13:12 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Using git apply to apply just the troublesome patch on top of the earlier ones" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/403 13:12 oleonard I don't know if that error sheds more light or not 13:13 atheia magnuse: uff — it's all weirdness with my patches today… 13:13 atheia magnuse: I'll have a look at this after the stockrotation issue 13:14 atheia oleonard: thanks — well… for me the patches apply 100% cleanly using git bz apply on a fresh branch off master… 13:14 atheia so what was the troublesome patch? 13:14 Joubu oleonard: it says that you have the files that are untracked in your repo 13:15 atheia (Sorry, I think I missed the first part of the conversation…) 13:15 Joubu if you apply the patch, the untracked file will be added 13:15 ashimema I'm not sure how you got there.. 13:15 Joubu git does not like that, you ask him to add a patch whereas the file already exists 13:15 ashimema but I'd nuke those listed untracked files and try re-applying the set to a clean branch 13:15 Joubu s/him/something else 13:16 Joubu oleonard: git status; rm untracked files you want to rm 13:16 mveron-away Have a great day / daytime #koha 13:17 Joubu in your case Koha/StockRotation* 13:18 atheia Joubu, oleonard: also the test files! 13:18 Joubu oleonard: only if you know what it does: git clean -d -f 13:19 Joubu will remove everything that is not tracked (or ignored) 13:19 oleonard I checked before and git status didn't show any relevant untracked files. I'll check again. 13:23 atheia Thanks for that! If you still get the error, would you mind sending me the commands you use from master branch, and I'll try to reproduce. 13:23 atheia (You can dm me if you prefer) 13:28 magnuse atheia, oleonard: [% USE Koha %] at the top of intranet-main.tt makes the ILL link appear 13:28 magnuse ILL uses [% IF Koha.Preference('ILLModule') %] but all the other modules have e.g. [% IF ( CAN_user_acquisition ) %] 13:29 magnuse would it be better to check for the permission as well as the syspref? 13:30 magnuse except for this i think 7317 is worthy of a signoff and would be awesome to have in 17.05 13:30 magnuse but now i gotta pick someone up from kindergarten! 13:31 atheia magnuse: testing now will let you know what I find. 13:31 Joubu A 5k line patch pushed just before the release? 13:32 oleonard Joubu: ? 13:32 ashimema atheia and I were both thinking it would be great to push it just after the release now.. so it's in nice and early in the next cycle but not in for this release 13:33 oleonard Oh I see Joubu. I didn't see the context 13:33 ashimema we're confident it's pretty solid.. BUT yeah.. in 5K lines there's allot of scope for something/anything to have been missed. 13:33 Joubu ashimema: I am not RM :) 13:33 atheia Agreed. 13:33 oleonard Yeah I don't think we should rush this in. Too big. 13:33 Joubu I do not decide 13:33 * ashimema also feels the same about the 'clubs' feature that was just pushed :( 13:33 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=63084 => contains lot of FIXME: need tests 13:34 * oleonard too, ashimema 13:34 * tcohen needs coffee 13:34 ashimema yeah.. ILL is certainly prime time for testing.. but not 100% for push.. needs some more tests writing as you've spotted Joubu 13:35 ashimema but I would like it in as early as possible next cycle.. to ensure it's fairly back portable for those that want to undertake that for 16.05 ;) 13:35 ashimema and to allow lots of testing whilst in the cycle 13:35 atheia Joubu, magnuse I personally feel ILL is at a decent initial sign off stage — but I am well aware that it falls short of the high standards that new code should follow — unit tests are patchy, documentation is iffy, and there is some legacy code. 13:35 atheia There might also be some issues around deployment/installation. 13:36 Joubu atheia: cloning (Clone::clone) hashref can be avoided easily with `my $clone = { %hash };` 13:36 ashimema sure it's not a deep hash Joubu? 13:36 ashimema I got bit by that recently ;) 13:37 atheia I think having it in relatively early in the next release would provide a great incentive to incrementally improve it over the course of the next cycle — A big part of the complexity around ILL and testing is that we need people to develop against it to get it tested properly. 13:37 Joubu indeed 13:37 atheia That's why getting it in would be beneficial — as a solid ground for dev. 13:37 atheia Joubu: yeah, it's a deep-hash. would that work in that context too? 13:37 Joubu nope, forget it :) 13:38 ashimema hehe.. :) 13:38 atheia Personally I am super confident about stockrotation, and am very happy with it's quality — ILL is getting there, but it's not on the level of stockrot. 13:38 * ashimema is glad he pointed that out/asked that question 13:39 Joubu I am definitely for big things pushed early 13:39 * oleonard tries 11897 in a different VM and it applies just fine 13:39 ashimema that's really odd oleonard 13:40 atheia oleonard: indeed… odd — but glad to hear it's applied cleanly now at least… 13:40 Joubu "Storable's dclone() is a flexible solution for cloning variables, albeit slower for average-sized data structures. Simple and naive benchmarks show that Clone is faster for data structures with 3 or fewer levels, while dclone() can be faster for structures 4 or more levels deep." 13:41 Joubu sorry to distract the attention 13:41 * Joubu returned to what he did before 13:41 ashimema hehe 13:42 ashimema I've read that exact statement a few days ago and wasn't sure which way to go in his code 13:43 atheia magnuse: I can confirm the link issue here. Odd, not sure how that was introduced, but will test your suggested fix. 13:43 Joubu (see also Bug 16221: Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode 13:43 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16221 enhancement, P2, ---, abl, RESOLVED FIXED, Use Storable::dclone() instead of Clone::clone() for L1 cache deep-copying mode 13:43 Joubu ) 13:51 Joubu alexbuckley: answered :) 14:01 kidclamp oleonard, barton: my links were bad in original email - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2017-05-10_Global_bug_squashing_day_-_Bugs_only_edition! 14:01 kidclamp you can add yourself as a 'hand-holder' for gbsd 14:02 * kidclamp shouldn't put exclamation marks in wiki titles 14:03 barton thanks kidclamp! 14:07 barton kidclamp: is there a 'hand-holders' list?, if so, where do I add myself? (I prefer 'freindly guide' over 'hand-holders' :-) 14:07 kidclamp edit the page if you wish 14:07 kidclamp make sure you have the exclamation point 14:08 barton looks like someone already edited the page title and removed that. 14:08 kidclamp http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10 14:08 kidclamp the one without is a list of bugs from joubu 14:09 barton aha. 14:21 * oleonard takes away his devbox's health care and waits for it to die 14:24 barton hey #koha, I'mm adding names to the 'firendly guides' list on the GBSD page ( http://tinyurl.com/KohaGBSD-2017-05-10 ) ... I've got myself and oleonard. Anyone else want to throw their hat in the ring? Joubu? kidclamp? tcohen? 14:24 tcohen \o 14:31 reiveune bye 14:34 atheia So, I have a permissions check that checks for the ILL permission. When the ILL permission is explicitly set for a user, the link appears correctly. 14:35 atheia However when the 'superlibrarian' permission is set for that same user, the permission returns false. 14:35 atheia Do I have to register the ILL permission within the superlibrarian permission somehow? 14:36 atheia oleonard: that's some decent gallow's humour you got going there… ;-) 14:41 oleonard In what is surely a metaphor of American politics, killing my devbox and starting over did not solve my problem. 15:03 oleonard Hi evantill and rrrhonda 15:04 rrrhonda Hi, I would like help getting started with koha testing. 15:05 oleonard What kind of testing? General testing for learning purposes or testing patches? 15:07 rrrhonda A little of both. I think testing patches would be a good place to start. 15:07 Joubu rrrhonda: Who are you? :) Developper or librarian? 15:07 rrrhonda librarian 15:07 wahanui i guess librarian is giving evergreen a look over two. I'd like to be able to say don't bother. but i can't yet 15:08 rrrhonda with a background in programing 15:08 oleonard Don't worry about wahanui rrrhonda, it's a bot 15:09 eythian wahanui: forget librarian 15:09 wahanui eythian: I forgot librarian 15:09 * Joubu is searching on the wiki for the correct documentation 15:10 Joubu rrrhonda: Are you familiar with Koha? With bugzilla? 15:15 tcohen @later tell drojf can u please let me know the status of the OpenAPI, newer Mojo and JSON::Validator packaging? 15:15 huginn_ tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:19 huginn_ New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d941f36c72cedd1f006025393b194a8d695e298> 16:11 oleonard <td>[% rota.cyclical ? 'Yes' : 'No'%]</td> 16:11 oleonard I wonder if that is translatable 16:17 Joubu Nope 16:18 Joubu It certainly needs to be [% IF cond %]<td>Yes</td>[% ELSE %]<td>No</td>[% END %] 16:18 Joubu With html tags inside the TT tags 16:21 oleonard Thanks Joubu 16:24 * magnuse will not try to get ill into 17.05, then 16:24 magnuse but will push for it to get in early after the release 16:24 * magnuse will be developing against it 16:26 * oleonard doesn't see a way to delete a stock rotation rota 16:26 magnuse @later tell rangi i tried to create an epub from the docs (master branch) and got some errors. are patches to the docs mailing list still the preferred way to contribute? 16:26 huginn_ magnuse: The operation succeeded. 16:33 rickx Hello everyone 16:33 rickx I have a technical question about koha 16:34 rickx How can I manipulate the default information on the tag 008? 16:53 * rickx slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot 16:56 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/164/ 16:56 jenkins jonathan.druart: Bug 18502: Make koha-shell set the right PERL5LIB on dev installs 16:56 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs 17:04 barton Joubu++ 17:04 barton ^^ for bug 18502 17:04 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-shell broken on dev installs 17:10 eythian http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a14948/the-brontosaurus-is-back/ <-- wizzyrea, in case Soren doesn't already know. 17:11 rickx Hi everyone! 17:12 rickx I want to change the default information on the tag 008 17:12 rickx I tried editing the files: 17:12 rickx marc21_field_008.tt, marc21_field_008.pl and marc21_field_008.xml 17:12 rickx But I can not 17:12 rickx Could someone guide me? 17:16 eythian rickx: you're on the end of a Friday, it's quite possible most people are at the pub or sleeping off hangovers, depending on timezone :) 17:18 oleonard rickx: I'm sober. What are you trying to change? 17:20 eythian oleonard is probably not sober, he just plays it on IRC. 17:20 rickx I try to change the default values of some drop-down list positions in tag 008 17:23 rickx I did something on the leader and 007 tags but I do not understand how to do it on the tag 008 17:27 oleonard Sorry rickx maybe if I had a stiff drink I could come up with a good way to customize that 17:28 rickx :( 17:32 rickx Thank you anyway 20:32 kidclamp mtompsett++ 20:55 mtompset kidclamp++ # thanks for the sign off. :) 20:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:13 kidclamp np, sorry I tried to derail your bug :-)