Time Nick Message 00:10 mtj any bugzilla admins about, to add a 'rel_16_05_candidate' keyword please? 00:18 * Francesca waves 00:56 mtj ive tested 18124 on 16.5.x and cant seem to trigger the bug, so i think we are good :0) 01:16 irma good morning #koha 01:17 irma I have just noticed the Donate link here seems strange http://schema.koha-community.org/16_05/index.html 01:18 wizzyrea I think that's the donate to the guy who maintains schema spy 01:18 wizzyrea the software that generates the schemas. 01:19 wizzyrea has nothing to do with koha, only to do with the tools that we use to create that content. 01:19 irma ah ... would be good to have some Koha connection on that page and clarification 01:19 irma thanks wizzyrea 01:19 wizzyrea I don't think that's how it works. 01:20 wizzyrea possibly rangi can turn off the donate link but that seems rather rude. 01:21 irma no problem. just good to know. 01:21 wizzyrea possibly better would be to provide a patch to the schemaspy author to fix the perceived problem :) 01:24 wizzyrea oh gosh it's in svn. 01:25 wizzyrea and it looks like he's maybe not maintaining it anymore. Maybe time to fork :P 01:25 wizzyrea idk anything about java tho 01:26 wizzyrea maybe aleisha lol. (jk aleisha, I"m not really volunteering you for that...) 01:30 BobB interesting irma, wizzyrea, the donate button seems to be gone from https://koha-community.org/ 01:30 wizzyrea yep 01:30 wizzyrea it was broken. 01:30 wizzyrea an nowhere for the money to go 01:30 wizzyrea so it's gone. 01:31 wizzyrea (until such time as someone provides a new link and there is a plan for where the money goes) 01:31 BobB hmmm, we tried to get a fundraising committee up last year, should try again 01:31 BobB it ran into the usual 'no-one has consistent time' conundrum 01:32 wizzyrea well there are complications (rangi will know more) with the trust and getting money. I guess it only holds assets now. 01:32 wizzyrea assets like trademarks 01:32 wizzyrea and domains. 01:32 wahanui domains are cheap. 01:32 wizzyrea thanks wahanui 01:32 wizzyrea not assets like actual money 01:33 BobB i'll follow that up in my spare time :) 01:33 wizzyrea I'm sure there are copious amounts of it (not) 01:33 wizzyrea :D 01:34 BobB soonish 01:47 mtj hi wizzyrea, do you know someone at catalyst who can fix this... -> https://jenkins.koha-community.org/computer/Debian_8/ 01:48 wizzyrea maybe rangi, more likely tcohen 02:38 mtj thanks, ill try to catch tcohen next 03:14 wizzyrea I just had an insane idea 03:15 wizzyrea well kind of an insane idea 03:15 wizzyrea not really I guess. 03:15 aleisha do tell 03:15 wizzyrea what if we made a type of notice that was just slip (not circulation) and whatever notices you had listed as a slip 03:15 wizzyrea were in the print slip menu on circulation 03:15 wizzyrea so like, there are current bugs for "make a slip for printing fines" 03:16 wizzyrea and "print a slip on returns" 03:16 wizzyrea those turn up in slightly different places but like 03:16 wizzyrea if you return things from the checkout page 03:16 wizzyrea it could work I guess. 03:17 aleisha i get it 03:17 aleisha could work! 03:17 wizzyrea idk I'm not sure 03:17 wizzyrea requires more thinking I think. But I do like the idea of being able to add custom slips 03:17 wizzyrea for example 03:17 wizzyrea we have a library that never prints quick slips 03:18 wizzyrea but they do print address labels very often 03:18 wizzyrea so we repurposed the quick slip to print addresses 03:18 wizzyrea which totally works 03:18 wizzyrea but what if they could just make a notice of type slip 03:18 wizzyrea that turns up in that menu 03:18 wizzyrea to put whatever they please in it. 04:12 wizzyrea also, should get rid of the rental charge on all default item types, and make an example one of "rental item" that actually has it. 04:12 wizzyrea so annoying. 04:12 wizzyrea only good for devs tho ;) 04:12 wizzyrea well, I guess it's good for users too. since they won't have to go back and edit 10 item types to not have the charge, if they start with the default ones. 04:13 wizzyrea I'm monologuing! YAY ME 04:32 ibeardslee sometimes monologuing is the only way to have a decent conversation with someone 05:38 josef_moravec morning #koha 05:42 sameee hello! 05:42 sameee how's it going? 05:45 alexbuckley_ hi josef re. bug 18438 would you be happy with the use of the autofocus html attribute on the barcode checkin input instead of the onclick event? 05:45 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18438 major, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Check in: Modal about holds hides important check in messages 05:53 alexbuckley_ ^josef_moravec 05:58 josef_moravec alexbuckley_: as we use HTML5 doctype, I think it's OK 06:02 alex_a bonjour 06:05 josef_moravec alexbuckley: but I am not sure it will work... after closing modal... 06:08 josef_moravec I would use something like $('.modal').on('hidden.bs.modal', function (e) { $("#barcode").focus(); }); 06:23 tt we are using java rfid program for issue/return using SIP 06:23 tt but our SIP connection is slow hence it takes time to issue/return books 06:23 tt is there any way to sort it out 06:24 * magnuse waves 06:28 magnuse tt: have you tried plack? 06:28 magnuse or maybe sip is not affected by plack? 06:28 magnuse hm, i'm not sure 06:29 tt no we are trying sip only 06:30 tt plack works better than sip 06:31 tt is it 06:32 NPUA Hello, I have a problem with config 06:32 NPUA Can anyone help me? 06:37 oha o/ 06:37 josef_moravec NPUA: try to ask and you'll see ;) 06:37 NPUA :) 06:38 NPUA we have uploaded books into the database, but they do not show up when searching for any of them 06:38 NPUA is there an indexing problem? 06:38 josef_moravec NPUA: looks like 06:38 wahanui it has been said that looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz 06:39 NPUA Can You tell me where to look? 06:39 NPUA is there an issue with zebra? 06:39 josef_moravec how do you made import? By import tool in staff client? 06:39 NPUA yes 06:39 josef_moravec it has 2 06:39 josef_moravec steps 06:39 josef_moravec first you just stage, and second import 06:40 NPUA thats the its been done 06:40 josef_moravec if you go to batch of import, there should be link to imported record - last column of that table 06:41 josef_moravec if the links are ok and go to records 06:41 josef_moravec try to reindex all manually by running: 06:41 josef_moravec koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f <instancename> 06:42 NPUA we tried that and it did not help 06:43 josef_moravec if you use -v parametr, you should see verbose output - you see how many records are indexed and eventually the problems with indexing 06:44 josef_moravec NPUA: also, which version of Koha are you using? 06:45 tt i also need to knw whether plack works fine better than sip2 06:45 reiveune hello 06:45 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:47 mtj tt: we use Koha with SIP and plack on 16.5.x, with no problems 06:47 NPUA we are using 3.22 06:47 tt do we need to use both 06:47 tt we just configured sip2 but it takes time to checkout/checkin books 06:47 NPUA what should I put in <instancename>? 06:48 tt even when we say telnet ip 8023 it takes time to connect to sip server 06:48 tt is then the issue at our end of network 06:48 tt hw to figure out tht 06:48 mtj plack speeds up Koha, it should also speed up SIP too 06:48 josef_moravec NPUA: the name of your instance as you create it with koha-create 06:49 mtj tt: perhaps your network is slow? .. have you checked? 06:49 josef_moravec NPUA: you can list created instances by koha-list 06:49 tt hw can we check that 06:49 josef_moravec NPUA: if you installed using debian packages of course 06:50 NPUA no its an ubintu 06:50 tt and inform our network admin guy 06:50 NPUA ubuntu 12.04* 06:50 tt because he is denying tht 06:50 josef_moravec NPUA: Ubuntu can use debian packages too ;) 06:50 josef_moravec NPUA: how did you install Koha? 06:51 josef_moravec NPUA: eg. which guide did you use? 06:52 NPUA we used this link 06:52 NPUA https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball 06:53 mtj tt, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_SIP2_server_setup#Testing_with_Telnet 06:55 tt Login OK. Initiating SIP and hangs there 06:55 tt Connection closed by foreign host. 06:56 josef_moravec NPUA: the recomended way of installing Koha is using packages: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 06:56 josef_moravec Also Ubuntu 12.04 is pretty old, you should use 16.04 or Debian Jessie 06:57 NPUA I understand, but we had to use this one as this was the "recommended" way by the national library net admin 06:57 NPUA and since we need to connect to their server we had to try this way )) 06:58 NPUA I also understand that the version of Ubuntu is old, but unfortunately its not on our hands (( 07:02 BobB NPUA that is going to be an ongoing problem for you. What country are you in? You should urge your national library to upgrade Ubuntu to the currently supported version 07:03 NPUA Yes I know, I'm doing my best to make them understand that the old version is not secure anymore, above anything else 07:04 NPUA but for now, can You offer me any solution? 07:04 * sophie_m waves 07:05 josef_moravec NPUA: recheck if you installed things around zebra like they should be 07:05 josef_moravec NPUA: try to check this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra 07:06 josef_moravec NPUA: But you probably encounter some other problems... 07:06 NPUA yes we did! 07:07 NPUA but we have resolved all the problems besides search indexing 07:07 NPUA which is the most important )) 07:07 josef_moravec NPUA: another thing: try to go to About -> Perl modules page and System information page to check you have everything what you need 07:08 josef_moravec NPUA: also, which version of Zebra you have installed? 07:08 josef_moravec Hello cait 07:09 NPUA Zebra 2.0.44 07:09 cait hi josef_moravec :) hi #koha 07:09 NPUA HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) shows not installed 07:10 NPUA but it shows as optional 07:11 josef_moravec NPUA: yes, it is just optional 07:12 josef_moravec NPUA: Zebra 2.0.44 is almost 8 years old, that could be problem 07:13 NPUA :D 07:13 NPUA it could be 07:14 josef_moravec you could add indexdata repository for installing newer zebra 07:16 NPUA ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -v 07:16 NPUA I have run this command and its working now 07:17 NPUA by working I mean its rebuilding 07:17 josef_moravec NPUA: so you'll see ;) 07:17 NPUA its says records exported 18 07:18 NPUA and its loading under it, but we have tried this before 07:20 cait hm is there no kw,phr? 07:20 * magnuse waves 07:20 cait trying to frot he best way to search for corporate identity in that order 07:22 gaetan_B hello 07:27 NPUA Record length of 237457 is larger than the MARC spec allows (99999 bytes). at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/USMARC.pm line 314 07:28 NPUA it gave this message for some entries 07:28 NPUA Is this a problem or they just won't come up in search? 07:28 NPUA it says now"REINDEXING zebra" 07:29 NPUA also "Records exported: 100878" 09:20 eythian hi 09:38 magnuse hiya eythian 11:45 eythian https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8140.txt <-- this is quite relevant for anyone involved in taxonomies and cataloguing. 11:46 marcelr hi #koha 11:46 eythian hi marcelr 11:46 marcelr o/ 11:55 oleonard Hi all 11:56 eythian hi oleopard 11:58 jzairo morning kellym meliss 11:59 meliss morning jzairo 12:00 * fridolin applying for RM 17.05 12:01 fridolin https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_17.11 12:01 magnuse yay! 12:01 * oleonard votes for fridolin 12:01 fridolin thanks 12:01 magnuse RMaint, then ;-) 12:01 fridolin yep RMt ;) 12:03 cait fridolin++ :) 12:04 fridolin i'll do my best for this job 12:04 fridolin better than last time ;) 12:04 cait push early... I will walk in your foot steps .) 12:05 cait i am not always early now... 12:05 fridolin yep its not easy 12:05 cait but you were the last missing piece 12:05 cait now we got a team to elect :) 12:06 fridolin Joubu: nice to see you at comand capt'ain 12:08 magnuse hooray for the community! 12:09 cait bgkriegel++ too 13:04 marcelr alex_a around ? 13:04 alex_a marcelr: yep 13:04 marcelr hi alex_a; i am still working on bug 12063 13:04 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays 13:05 marcelr i now have two minor issues, will submit them on the report. so please be prepared to respond :) 13:05 marcelr would be nice if we could finish this qa battle.. 13:06 alex_a thx for your patience marcelr :) 13:06 cait marcelr++ 13:11 mveron Hi #koha 13:12 mveron cait: Bug 18465 - I made screenshots with settings and expected result 13:12 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Patron card creator: Print on duplex card printer 13:22 oleonard Joubu I hope my follow-up sufficiently addresses your concerns about Bug 17942 13:22 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3 13:24 cait thx! 13:24 cait did you see mycomment? 13:25 cait mveron: was wondering about one of the settings in the pdf - both llayouts read front? 13:29 mveron cait: That's OK. Setting it to back shuffles data for multi column layouts (not used for duplex print). 13:29 * mveron is about to comment on the bug... 13:42 cait thx 13:42 cait we haven't used that module much at all... it's a bit mysterious 13:44 tcohen morning 13:47 marcelr hi tcohen 13:47 tcohen hi marcelr 13:48 mveron cait: Yes, it is a little bit tricky to figure things out... 13:59 Joubu jajm: mtj pushed a lot of security patches to 16.05. Since the next 3.22 will be the last, it may be great to have all of them into 3.22.x as well 14:04 Joubu @later tell jajm mtj pushed a lot of security patches to 16.05. Since the next 3.22 will be the last, it may be great to have all of them into 3.22.x as well 14:04 huginn_ Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:13 Joubu @later tell mtj 17146 is marked as pushed to 16.05.x, but is not 14:13 huginn_ Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:15 Joubu @later tell mtj 18094 is marked as pushed to 16.05.x, but has been reverted (why?) 14:15 huginn_ Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:16 mtj hi joubu, failing tests ^ 14:17 mtj i'll update the bug(s) 14:22 Joubu mtj: the tests pass for me 14:23 Joubu mtj: do you want me to upload my 16.05 version? 14:25 Joubu done 14:32 mtj thanks Joubu, i still get a failling test for 18094 after your patches - but its poss my current dev setup 14:33 * mtj has no vagrant setup atm (long story) 14:35 mtj ill be happy to confirm the tests on jenkins, when it comes up 14:36 marcelr tcohen around 14:37 marcelr you only included one biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl on bug 18098 14:37 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add an index with the count of not onloan items 14:37 Joubu mtj: you could ask someone else to confirm if you want 14:44 Joubu mtj: did you apply the 2 patches or just the tests? 14:44 Joubu I get the same failure when I just apply the first patch 14:56 mtj i applied both patches, it still fails for me 14:58 schnydszch Dear all, This is Eugene Espinoza, one of the organizers for KohaCon2017, I might not make it to the meeting later which is 4 A.M. in our local time, and it's already 11P.M. So I'm sending the updates for KohaCon2017: 1) We'd like to ask that the website for kohacon2017 be added in the kohacon links in the koha community website; 2) There are now 235 pre-registered participants for the said Conference, 45 are foreign participants.. 14:58 oleonard Great registration numbers schnydszch! 14:58 tcohen marcelr: what? 14:59 marcelr see the bug report please 14:59 marcelr 18098 14:59 tcohen ah, I missed the other xslts 14:59 tcohen hm 14:59 marcelr have to go; bye #koha 15:02 schnydszch ..so the estimate is right, 50 foreign, 200 local. We want to have other local institutions the chance to attend so we're trying to work on that. 250 is the limit for the venue, so we're working doubly on this. 3) This May 17 12PM-1PM PST, KohaCon2017 will be featured in a local radio program created by the University of the Philippines Main Library which is termed as libradio, link is here: http://dzup.org/libradio but that will still be on May 17. We 15:03 kidclamp schnydszch, can you add these notes to the agenda page on the wiki? 15:06 schnydszch ..in the list and update the K-C on this, the language of the radio program will be Filipino-English, so those interested in listening to the podcast, please bear with us. 4.We're already done with the program, we're just trying to figure out to make it like the program done with Greece, was it a Wordpress plugin? so please contact us regarding this. In any rate, program will be out this week. 5) One major sponsor not yet filled up so we'd appreciate i 15:10 eythian schnydszch: beware the network doesn't kick you out for excess flood, best to wiki things like that and link them 15:10 schnydszch ..have one. Well that sums up, updates on KohaCon2017. need to get a rest guys. thanks oleonard! and kidclamp i'm afraid i might mess up the wiki with weary eyes. Cheers and good night! :) 15:11 eythian schnydszch: I think there is content missing 15:11 eythian so really, at the least you ought to pastebin it :) 15:24 reiveune bye 15:24 schnydszch hi eythian and all! here's the pastebin link: https://pastebin.com/XXifgfHW 15:25 schnydszch bye and good night to all! 15:25 eythian later :) 15:57 oleonard Thanks josef_moravec! 16:04 josef_moravec oleonard: not at all ;) 16:05 josef_moravec somebody interested in testing bug 18008 ? ;) 16:05 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Use templates for generating pagination in intranet 16:18 josef_moravec bye #koha 16:42 pastebot "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test results for 16.05.x" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/395 16:42 Joubu mtj: ^ 16:43 Joubu mtj: if I change the number of tests for HoldsQueue.t to 43, it's green 16:44 mtj easy fix, thanx! :0) 17:20 oleonard Joubu: Do you remember, was there an issue with Bug 18007 which you were waiting for me to fix? Or is it simply waiting for signoff? 17:20 huginn_ 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Interface updates to notices and notice previews 17:50 Joubu oleonard: I think it is ok like that 17:51 Joubu I remember a vertical vs horizontal comparison, but the screenshot shows what I expected 18:29 tcohen is the onboarding stuff pushed already? 18:29 oleonard Yes but not the style update 18:35 Joubu "already"? :p 20:00 * kidclamp waves 20:00 kidclamp everyone ready for a meeting? 20:00 thd If and only if my internet does not fail. 20:00 * indradg|afk waves back 20:00 * Joubu is not far 20:01 thd A sewer fire and explosion may have been the cause of mostly no internet for me for a month. 20:02 talljoy meeting? 20:02 wahanui meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then 20:04 kidclamp ashimema, cait , mtj, rangi, jajm, Brooke 20:04 cait oops 20:04 cait here 20:04 kidclamp trying to ping everyone with a role :-) 20:04 kidclamp starting in one minute 20:04 indradg wow @thd 20:05 kidclamp #startmeeting General IRC meeting 03 May 2017 20:05 huginn_ Meeting started Wed May 3 20:05:46 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:05 huginn_ Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:05 huginn_ The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017' 20:05 kidclamp #topic Introductions 20:05 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 20:05 thd indrag: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/manhole-blasts-shatter-strand-bookstore-windows-union-squa-article-1.3014939 20:06 talljoy #info Joy Nelson ByWater 20:06 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 20:06 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 20:06 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 20:06 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany 20:07 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:08 kidclamp #topic Announcement 20:08 kidclamp Next week we will do a GBSD for bugs for 17.0 20:08 kidclamp 5 20:08 kidclamp I will send an email out and put up a wiki page today 20:08 kidclamp I plan to be about to help anyone with testing/sandboxes 20:08 kidclamp and will see if I can get ours runing 20:09 * kidclamp has fat fingers today 20:09 kidclamp #info GBSD next week, wiki and emial to come today 20:09 kidclamp #action kidclamp will send out something for GBSD 20:09 kidclamp anyone else? 20:09 indradg #infor Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies 20:10 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS 20:10 indradg #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies 20:10 cait kidclamp: the date? 20:10 wahanui the date is circled ;) 20:10 kidclamp May 10th 20:10 cait thx :) 20:10 kidclamp #info GSBD for May 10th, bugs only edition 20:11 kidclamp cait++ 20:11 Joubu we have 18 majors and 2 criticals 20:11 Joubu filled with patches 20:12 kidclamp #info there are 18 majors and 2 critical bugs needing attention 20:12 kidclamp halp! please! 20:13 kidclamp next up is elections - do we have enough participants or should we postpone? 13 UTC has been the more active time lately - we could push for a week? 20:14 cait why nto have it? 20:14 Joubu May 10th? :) 20:14 cait i stayed up1 20:14 Brooke No time is a good time for all. I think we should vote now, like Cait 20:14 cait ! 20:14 cait :) 20:15 kidclamp #topic Roles for 17.11 - Elections 20:15 kidclamp okay, we vote! 20:16 barton yea, yes, +1! 20:16 talljoy barton is eager 20:16 indradg heh 20:16 kidclamp I think there are no contested seats, any discussion? 20:17 kidclamp I propose we can vote the whole list at once 20:17 thd Yes 20:17 thd Sorry that I have been without internet... 20:17 Brooke +1 for the slate 20:18 thd I am adding my name along with Brookes for Wiki curator now. :) 20:18 thd (more the merrier) 20:18 thd I actually thought that elections were next month. 20:18 cait the release is this month 20:19 kidclamp don't want to release without a new team in the wings 20:20 kidclamp okay, I will enter all the roles here for minutes, then we can vote slate 20:21 kidclamp Release Manager: 20:21 kidclamp Jonathan Druart 20:21 kidclamp -- 20:21 kidclamp RM Assistants: 20:21 kidclamp Alex Sassmannshausen 20:21 kidclamp Martin Renvoize 20:21 kidclamp -- 20:21 kidclamp Release Maintainers 20:21 wahanui Release Maintainers are Chris Cormack for 3.8 20:21 kidclamp (17.05) Fridolin Somers 20:21 kidclamp (16.11) Katrin Fischer (continuing) 20:21 kidclamp (16.05) Mason James (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Translation Manager 20:22 wahanui well, Translation Manager is proposed to be Frédéric Demians 20:22 kidclamp Bernardo González Kriegel (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Documentation Team 20:22 kidclamp Katrin Fischer & Chris Cormack 20:22 kidclamp shh wahanui 20:22 wahanui I'M EXCERCISING MY ROBOT RIGHT TO FREE DATA TRANSMISSION 20:22 kidclamp Database Documentation Manager 20:22 kidclamp Indranil Das Gupta 20:22 kidclamp Quality Assurance (QA) Team 20:22 kidclamp Brendan Gallagher 20:22 kidclamp Kyle Hall (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Marcel de Rooy (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Martin Renvoize (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Alex Sassmannshausen (dipped my toe last cycle) 20:22 kidclamp Nick Clemens (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Julian Maurice (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Tomas Cohen Arazi (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Packaging Manager 20:22 kidclamp Mirko Tietgen (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Continuous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins) 20:22 kidclamp Tomas Cohen Arazi 20:22 kidclamp Bug Wranglers (the more the merrier!) What does a Bug Wrangler do 20:22 kidclamp Marc Véron (continuing) 20:22 kidclamp Claire Gravely 20:22 kidclamp Josef Moravec 20:22 kidclamp Amit Gupta 20:23 kidclamp Wiki Curators (The more the merrier!) 20:23 kidclamp Brooke 20:23 kidclamp Thomas Dukleth 20:23 kidclamp Okay 20:23 * Joubu votes for wahanui French president 20:23 * barton reves up hos voting engine... 20:23 barton s/hos/his/ 20:23 kidclamp #startvote Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above? Yes, No 20:23 huginn_ Begin voting on: Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above? Valid vote options are Yes, No. 20:23 huginn_ Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:24 kidclamp #vote Yes 20:24 barton #vote Yes 20:24 cait #vote yes 20:24 Joubu #vote yes 20:24 thd #vote yes 20:24 drojf #vote yes 20:24 indradg #vote yes 20:25 mkuhn #vote yes 20:25 kidclamp last call 20:25 kidclamp #endvote 20:25 huginn_ Voted on "Should we elect all proposed roles for 17.11 as listed on the wiki and above?" Results are 20:25 huginn_ Yes (8): Joubu, cait, barton, kidclamp, indradg, mkuhn, thd, drojf 20:26 kidclamp Huzzah! Congrats Joubu 20:26 kidclamp Joubu++ 20:26 indradg Joubu++ 20:26 Joubu hope you all read the proposal guys ;) 20:26 cait release_team_17.11++ Joubu++ :) 20:26 * cait whispers he wants us to work... pf 20:26 barton { and Tomás has himselff marked as 'Yes' in the meeting notes } 20:27 kidclamp [off] Joubu promises to be a benevolent dictator 20:27 barton @ytpos++ 20:27 huginn_ barton: I suck 20:27 kidclamp #topic Update on releases: 20:28 Joubu cait: heh, indeed, things like "responsibility", "motivation", etc. 20:28 kidclamp Kyle is out this week but will be working on things once he returns 20:28 kidclamp cait: 16.11? 20:28 wahanui 16.11 is coming out next week 20:28 kidclamp mtj, jajm? I think they are sleeping 20:29 cait heh not quite next week 20:29 cait but according to schedule 20:29 cait was focusing a bit on sign offs this week 20:29 barton wahanui forget 16.11 20:29 wahanui barton: I forgot 16.11 20:29 cait will start pushing after feature flush 20:29 cait string freeze on 15th and release on 22nd 20:29 kidclamp #info cait will push for 16.11 after 17.05 feature slusgh 20:29 kidclamp #info 17.05 feature slush if Friday, May 05 20:30 kidclamp #info 17.05 feature slush is Friday, May 05 20:30 kidclamp #16.11 string freeze on 15th and release on 22nd 20:30 kidclamp anything else? 20:30 wahanui i think anything else is just being crap 20:30 kidclamp wahanui forget anything else 20:30 wahanui kidclamp: I forgot anything else 20:30 barton ^^ I wish ;-) 20:31 kidclamp #topic KohaCon 20:31 kidclamp schnydzsch posted an update into channel earleir today 20:32 kidclamp it seemed incomplete but we asked for him to update wiki and email oout to lists as well 20:32 kidclamp #info schnydzsch should send an email to lsits or update wiki 20:34 kidclamp no updates on the marketing / etc 20:34 barton move on? 20:34 kidclamp so floor is open for final thoughts 20:34 kidclamp or just set next meeting 20:34 barton Any notes from the marketing group? 20:34 kidclamp nope 20:34 Brooke can you flesh out the marketing etc comment please 20:34 Brooke do you mean for KohaCon or project wide? 20:35 barton Brooke, it was the last item on the agenda. 20:35 kidclamp something NateC was involved with, I don't know details 20:36 kidclamp I think maybe an agenda holdover 20:36 kidclamp copy/pasta 20:36 barton nothing to do with KohaCon. 20:37 Brooke thanks for the clarification Nick 20:37 kidclamp #topic Next meeting 20:38 kidclamp June 7th - 13 UTC? 20:38 cait ok 20:38 Brooke great by me, that is not Election Day 20:39 kidclamp #info Next meeting: Wednesday, June 7th, 2017 13 UTC 20:40 kidclamp last chance 20:40 kidclamp 3 20:40 kidclamp 2 20:40 kidclamp 1 20:40 thd +1 20:40 Joubu 0 20:40 kidclamp #endmeeting 20:40 huginn_ Meeting ended Wed May 3 20:40:41 2017 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 20:40 huginn_ Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.html 20:40 huginn_ Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.txt 20:40 huginn_ Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_03_may_2017.2017-05-03-20.05.log.html 20:40 Brooke thanks for driving the bus 20:41 barton ^^ what Brooke said. 20:41 kidclamp heh 'No brakes!!!!!' 20:41 barton HA 20:41 Brooke gotta pump em rookie ;) 20:41 barton kidclamp: that would be NateC. 20:42 * kidclamp wanders off to start closing tabs and end his day 20:43 thd indradg: A funny/scary moment of the sewer explosions near me a month ago was after several manhole covers had earlier exploded into the air another manhole cover exploded directly under a fire service vehicle. 20:44 Brooke Yank infrastructure-- 20:44 thd :) 20:44 thd I really need multiple upstream connections. 20:45 thd I was even disconnected twice very briefly during the very brief meeting. 20:46 Brooke do you know an automated way to exchange information from Hea with the wiki? 20:46 thd Hea? 20:46 wahanui Hea is coming (see hea.koha-community.org) 20:46 Brooke I'd love to see flow between the two 20:46 Brooke yeah Hea is very cool. go check it out 20:46 Brooke just got a nice update, too 20:46 Joubu Brooke: what do you mean? 20:47 Brooke I know we aren't wikipedia, but there are automated tools that can draw on data sets then leverage bots to create or manage pages 20:47 Brooke or alert someone to changes 20:48 Brooke or make little authorised value changes so a person isn't bothered by them 20:48 Brooke I hit things with sticks, but I know there are better ways 20:48 cait ? 20:48 cait hea is all automated? 20:48 indradg thd: wow++ 20:48 Brooke yes 20:48 Brooke and the wiki is not 20:48 Brooke what I worry about is folks not implementing hea or data not being mirrored 20:50 Joubu Brooke: sorry still do not get it, do you have a specific example? 20:51 Brooke no but I have a specific problem in mind 20:51 Brooke I think it behooves us to have redundant data in this case 20:51 Brooke not everyone has service full time as thd proves 20:51 thd_ Brooke: Sadly I lost internet connection again. 20:52 Brooke and those that are less fortunate in their connections might prefer to print the wiki (I know the horror, but this is so) 20:52 thd_ Brooke: I have had very reliable service for the past 2 years with minor interruptions. 20:52 Brooke or there might be people that edit the wiki then not participate in hea, which is queer but possible 20:52 Brooke yes, but other people do not necessarily have reliable service most of the time 20:53 Brooke anyway, the barrier to entry for contributing to the wiki is lower than hea 20:53 thd_ Brooke: I have never had an outage of a month previously. 20:53 cait Brooke: hea is very low onw 20:54 cait Brooke: it's just turn on prefs 20:54 Brooke though the visualisations hea is capable of is superior 20:54 Joubu Brooke: If you have examples of what you want, I can try & write script to daily generate something (csv/svg/...) 20:54 Brooke I will think on if this is necessary at all 20:54 Brooke people seemed to indicate no don't bother on the list when I mentioned mapping and GIS 20:55 thd_ Brooke: Is the URL https://hea.koha-community.org/ ? 20:55 Brooke but I'm very grateful for the disambiguation someone did to force the data to be nicer on Hea 20:55 Brooke yes 20:56 thd_ That URL does not resolve for me. 20:56 thd_ Brooke: I think it is an SSH issue. 20:56 * Joubu thinks that thd_ should read a bit more the Koha ML 21:00 thd_ Difficult to read enough when internet access is mostly down. 21:00 thd_ I know I do not read it enough in the past three years when internet is working :) 21:00 * thd_ tries a different web browser. 21:01 Joubu have to run, bye #koha 21:01 Brooke bye bye 21:06 thd_ Brooke: Adding hea data directly to the wiki in a manner similar to the way in which it is being added to the website at https://hea.koha-community.org/ would be a security risk for the wiki database. 21:08 thd_ Brooke: However, hea data might be collected somewhere intermediately and then updated on some wiki page with perhaps some polling function. 21:10 thd_ Brooke: The big issue is limiting direct writes to the database running the wiki to localhost. 21:12 thd_ Brooke: An unrelated issue is that the security certificate for the subdomain hea.koha-community.org might not be configured correctly. 23:08 mveron Good night / daytime #koha