Time Nick Message 00:11 BobB hi folks 02:15 wizzyrea one of my librarians came up with an interesting idea this morning 02:15 wizzyrea "allow rental fees on all items issued by a specific patron category 02:15 wizzyrea " 02:15 wizzyrea the use case was 02:15 wizzyrea "we have ILL libraries who we don't have reciprocal lending with, we'd like to charge them" 02:28 wizzyrea thing that is annoying 02:28 wizzyrea koha-email-enable vs 02:28 wizzyrea koha-start-zebra 02:28 wizzyrea vs 02:28 wizzyrea koha-plack --enable 02:28 wizzyrea vs 02:28 dcook hehe 02:29 wizzyrea I can't think of the 4th one but I know it's there. 02:29 wizzyrea why not koha-email --enable 02:29 wizzyrea and koha-zebra --start 02:29 wizzyrea I think I'd prefer that. 02:30 wizzyrea oh koha-enable-sip 02:31 wizzyrea so that's, in order: 02:31 wizzyrea koha-email-enable 02:31 wizzyrea koha-start-zebra 02:31 wizzyrea koha-plack --enable 02:31 wizzyrea koha-enable-sip 02:31 * wizzyrea cries 02:32 dcook We're all crying :) 02:32 wizzyrea koha-enable-* and koha-start-* are ok, because it's koha-action-* 02:32 wizzyrea but the other two, I can't. 02:33 dcook If it helps, I've made a script with built-in daemon options, and now I'm thinking I shouldn't so that the Debian packages can have a koha-harvester-enable --enable or whatever using daemon 02:33 wizzyrea koha-plack is probably the most robust options wise 02:33 dcook daemons are the worst.. 02:34 wizzyrea well we should decide which way we like 😂 02:34 dcook Agreed 02:34 dcook But good luck hearding those cats 02:34 wizzyrea doing them like koha-plack would be more work 02:34 dcook Or kittens or whatever they are 02:34 wizzyrea but probably better 02:34 dcook herding* 02:34 wizzyrea lol. 02:34 * dcook can't even spell 02:34 wizzyrea yeah I was just now imagining the backlash 02:34 wizzyrea because it'd have to be backwards compatible. 02:34 dcook Yep 02:34 dcook :D 02:35 wizzyrea because "MY SCRIPT DOESN'T WORK NOW" 02:35 dcook We have like the worst of both worls 02:35 dcook worlds* 02:35 wizzyrea right? 02:35 wizzyrea and this is why we don't have nice things. 02:35 * dcook nods 02:35 dcook People say how great Google products are, but they're 100% in control 02:35 wizzyrea and, they just change stuff and let the whiners whine 02:35 dcook They don't have to coordinate X developers from around the world, and have it be backwards compatible for X installations of X versions around the globe 02:35 wizzyrea and then the whiners get in line 02:35 dcook And there's that 02:35 dcook Especially that 02:35 wizzyrea and do it their way 02:35 dcook Soo much that 02:36 * dcook remembers when people used to complain about Facebook UI changes 02:36 dcook That doens't happen anymore as people just got over it 02:36 wizzyrea well it does 02:36 dcook Maybe a bit 02:36 wizzyrea they just stop whining 02:36 wizzyrea sooner. 02:36 dcook Yeah haha 02:36 dcook I think I found a bug in Maps, but the process for reporting it just didn't seem worth it either 02:37 wizzyrea hard process for reporting bugs = working as intended. 02:37 dcook So I'll just put up with my distance sometimes being in miles 02:37 wizzyrea *snerk* 02:37 wizzyrea it's K's in canada isn't it 02:37 dcook yep 02:37 wizzyrea so you wouldn't even have the benefit of being dual brained about it 02:37 dcook km in Canada, Australia, most places 02:37 dcook Well... 02:37 wizzyrea < is dual brained 02:37 dcook Country roads are in miles 02:38 wizzyrea things in the US are miles 02:38 dcook So if someone tells you to go 5 miles, that is kind of understandable as it's denoted by other segments 02:38 dcook Because farmland is divided up by miles iirc 02:38 dcook Go 5 miles, turn right, go 2 miles, turn right at the rusted tractor 02:38 dcook Or replace miles with sections 02:39 dcook wizzyrea: You must be dual brained about F and C as well then 02:39 ibeardslee mm fish and chips 02:39 dcook mm 02:40 wizzyrea yeah, mostly 02:40 wizzyrea it's quite funny actually 02:40 wizzyrea if we are talking about the US, it's all F in my mind 02:40 wizzyrea if we are talking about nz, it's all C 02:40 wizzyrea "what's the weather in Auckland today?" "18C" 02:41 wizzyrea "what's the weather in Kansas?" "80." 02:41 wizzyrea i mean, I'll answer you in the local unit. 02:41 dcook hehe 02:41 dcook That's great :D 02:42 dcook Oh, actually, I guess I do that a bit 02:42 dcook Like when it comes to the oven 02:42 dcook In North America, you're probably cooking at 350F I reckon 02:42 dcook Whereas here... it's like 180-220C 02:42 dcook 350-450F in NA I guess.. 02:42 dcook Depending on what it is, when you want it, and how burned 02:45 wizzyrea I'd find ovens a lot easier if the temp scale was actually visible on my oven 02:45 wizzyrea as it stands, I just kinda guess. 02:45 wizzyrea max for my oven is 220 02:45 wizzyrea so I just kinda scale it down from there :P 02:46 dcook hehe 02:46 dcook Yeah my oven is gas so I don't really trust the increments on there 02:46 dcook I mostly just watch the flame and think "Yeah... that seems higher than high but lower than the highest" 02:46 dcook oven-enable-heat 02:47 wizzyrea LOL 02:47 dcook oven-enable-heat-less 02:47 dcook damn it! 02:47 dcook :p 02:47 wizzyrea oven-enable --hot 02:47 wizzyrea oven-enable --less-hot 02:47 wizzyrea oven-enable --downright-balmy 02:47 dcook oven-disable 02:47 wizzyrea where's eythian when you need him. 02:48 dcook bed-enable 02:48 dcook stop it, dcook! 02:48 dcook bed-enable --ethyian 02:48 dcook bed-enable --person eythian 04:16 dcook Any tips for creating a per site configuration file for Debian? 04:16 dcook I think __KOHA_CONF_DIR__ gets changed to /etc/koha, so that's not helpful.. 04:18 dcook Or is that a Debian script thing.. 04:19 dcook Ah yeah it's totally a debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in thing 04:19 dcook Not my problem.. 04:22 dcook Well I'll update the template anyway.. 06:18 fridolin hie ehre 06:24 * dcook waves 06:33 marcelr hi #koha 06:34 dcook Ahh make upgrade is broken atm, isn't it? 06:35 * dcook seems to recall hearing that 06:35 marcelr hi dcook; yeah, there is a bug for that 06:36 dcook Is it fixed and just awaiting backporting? 06:36 marcelr not sure 06:37 dcook Hmm, well I'll rebase and try :) 06:39 dcook Nope. Still broken. 06:39 * dcook swears under his breath 06:40 dcook Bug 18028: Remove outdated install_misc directory 06:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18028 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , install_misc directory is outdated and must be removed 06:40 dcook That would do it.. 06:41 dcook bug 18373 06:41 wahanui well, bug 18373 is major and needed for stable releases 06:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18373 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , `make upgrade` is broken 06:43 dcook thanks marcelr for the confirmation :) 06:43 marcelr np 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 06:43 alex_a bonjour 06:44 dcook ah merde.. 06:44 dcook In reference to make upgrade. Not you guys :p 06:44 * dcook waves 06:44 marcelr hi reiveune and alex_a 06:45 alex_a hello marcelr 07:15 gaetan_B hello 07:16 kastan hi 07:22 sameee sup' 08:55 marcelr jajm++ 08:58 jajm marcelr, note that i haven't tested it with elastic search, since i can't make it work on my dev install :/ 08:58 marcelr ok, we still have more issues there 11:27 marcelr @later tell tcohen please check 18361; thx 11:27 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 11:29 marcelr khall: can you push 18413? small fix 12:04 oleonard Hi all 12:06 marcelr hi oleonard 12:06 wahanui hi olé onard 12:10 marcelr thx khall 12:10 khall np! 12:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18349: [QA Follow-up] Add four missing error messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=392641ff1ec0cf2b6480af134fd676edf64f4df7> / Bug 18349: Remove useless info in alert message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b61f73c48832e0f10ca799aa49682da37f1f44a1> / Bug 18349: If a confirmation is required, consider as blocker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p 12:28 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18121: Replace opac_news.new with opac_news.content in notices templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87d1d42f525e2430e9a5f574758495fc32947a9f> 12:40 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18388 - Standardize serials volume information displaying <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2be6625d1a8e537c2046f68990597c9e75e65d81> / Bug 17872: Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=476179a12311b32643087cc8ec10c31409bb1b99> / Bug 14932: Do not call can_edit_subscription with an empty value <http://git 12:50 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17737: [QA Follow-up] Remove unused reservedfor variable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71f34c7b34c355e0b8c0dead9f7ca49b4e1e1dc3> / Bug 17737: Rename holds_placed_before_today with current_holds <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b01fe1a666ee341c56a182ce34a39788d7e15224> / Bug 17737: Remove C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromItemnumber <http://git.koha-community 13:01 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9988: [QA Follow-up] Satisfy QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0868b709811078405a834114e779e0a35184d54d> / Bug 9988: Add the cronjob and print an upgrade message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=630896330b0b5249c1a53342cdd1458e5677f7ee> / Bug 9988: Refactor the cron script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dea93375dc 13:01 marcelr khall++ 13:06 marcelr khall: did you move the dbrev to updatedatabase already ? 13:07 marcelr dbrevs (3) 13:07 khall marcelr: working on that right now! 13:07 marcelr cool 13:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14537: [QA Follow-up] Remove one overdues residue in pref description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1a460b5b2716b1fabd46b296117287c9935bbac> / Bug 14537: Renaming OverdueNoticeBcc to NoticeBcc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98398a671544ec21cd099dc62336c1ca1cb81f18> / Bug 9988 - DBRev 16.12.00.023 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co 13:25 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14537 - DBRev 16.12.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d26b0668af62f0907a58108d4164ed27072317e9> 13:29 marcelr have to go; bye #koha 13:57 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #149: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/149/ 13:57 jenkins kyle: Bug 18413: Fix Letters.t (following bug 17866) 13:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18413 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix Letters.t (follow-up of 17866) 13:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Change sender for claim and order notices 14:37 * kidclamp waves 14:39 * CrispyBran watches in awe 14:40 * kidclamp feels slightly mocked 14:40 * CrispyBran is amused 14:41 CrispyBran kidclamp: I can't find the list of webinars anywhere. I am trying to find the link to sign up for today's. Can you point me to it? 14:42 kidclamp sent your way 14:43 CrispyBran got it. thanks! 14:47 CrispyBran https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17978 14:47 huginn` 04Bug 17978: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circ rules will not limit holds 15:11 barton @later tell tcohen hey, good find on bug 17717 -- http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1127880 15:11 huginn` barton: The operation succeeded. 15:39 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #150: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/150/ 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: SCO - Do not trust the confirmed flag 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: $borrower is a hashref 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: If a confirmation is required, consider as blocker 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: Remove useless info in alert message 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18349 is not accessible. 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: [QA Follow-up] Add four missing error messages 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18121: Replace opac_news.new with opac_news.content in notices 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18395: (bug 14610 followup) Remove article requests methods from 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14932 - serials/serials-collection.pl-page is very slow. 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18121 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Rename opac_news.new with opac_news.content - replace notice template 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14932: Do not call can_edit_subscription with an empty value 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17872: Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18388 - Standardize serials volume information displaying 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17737: Replace GetReservesFromItemnumber with 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17737: Remove C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromItemnumber 15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17737: Rename holds_placed_before_today with current_holds 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17737: [QA Follow-up] Remove unused reservedfor variable 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18208: Add RecordProcessor filter to inject not onloan count to MARC 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18395 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Wrong article request methods in Koha::Patrons 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14610 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to place article requests in Koha 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18208: [QA Follow-up] Get count from Koha::Items 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18274: C4::Items - Remove GetItemStatus 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18375: Better readability of patron category table for zero ages and 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18394: Remove useless code from item search 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14932 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , serials/serials-collection.pl-page is very slow. GetFullSubscription* checks permission for each serial! 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18394: Add an option to item search to export a barcodes file 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Database revision for AuthorityMergeLimit 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17872 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Table revision for need_merge_authorities 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: DBIx schema changes for need_merge_authorities 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add Koha objects for table need_merge_authorities 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add extract_biblionumber to Koha/SearchEngine 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18388 minor, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Standardize serials volume information displaying in OPAC and staff 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add get_usage_count and linked_biblionumbers to 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Merge should have a parameter hash 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move GetReservesFromItemnumber to Koha::Item->holds 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add RecordProcessor filter to inject not onloan count to MARC records 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Remove the Zebra code from sub merge 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Check the merge limit in sub merge 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Items - Remove GetItemStatus 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Remove further references to dontmerge 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add a subtest for specific postponed merge issues 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Better readability of patron category table for zero ages and fees 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add an option to item search to export a barcodes file 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Few subtle changes for postponed merge 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Refactor the cron script 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Leave larger authority merges to merge_authorities cronjob (pref AuthorityMergeLimit) 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add the cronjob and print an upgrade message 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: [QA Follow-up] Satisfy QA issues 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988 - DBRev 16.12.00.023 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14537: Renaming OverdueNoticeBcc to NoticeBcc 15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , The system preference 'OverdueNoticeBcc' is mis-named. 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14537: [QA Follow-up] Remove one overdues residue in pref 15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14537 - DBRev 16.12.00.024 15:54 kidclamp @later tell marcelr trying to catch you re some authority questions, ping me when you can 15:54 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 17:20 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #151: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/151/ 20:19 kidclamp CrispyBran++ 20:19 kidclamp CrispyBran++ 20:58 barton hey #koha, I've got SearchEngine set to ElasticSearch; ps aux shows elastic is running, but my import is hanging at 0% ... is there anything else I need, or is this a bug? (the records import correctly under zebra). 21:17 barton how does koha tell elastic search which items have and haven't been indexed? it can't use zebraqueue... 21:17 barton s/items/bibs/ 21:48 reiveune bye