Time Nick Message 23:25 rangi yep 23:22 tcohen until it is asynchronously loaded 23:22 tcohen we need to disable the button 23:20 rangi ahh that would break stuff 23:20 tcohen the problem with auth merge, is that it allows you to click the merge button while the merge result is not yet loaded 23:18 cait i should sleep :) night #koha 23:18 cait hm the module is a bit outdated - not latest cas standard too 23:16 rangi people have reported it for other modules too 23:16 rangi its something up with permissions when running under cron 23:15 tcohen thanks for the pointer, rangi 23:14 rangi i have a workaround, but it will hit in debian 9 (its already hit in ubuntu 16.04) 23:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm 23:14 rangi you should also take a look at bug 17717 23:09 tcohen I managed to break an authority record by merging it in 16.11 22:52 tcohen it'd be great someone has tested this simple one, so he does QA on this one too 22:52 tcohen jonathan is testing/QAing 13757 which depends on several patches that are dependencies for this 22:51 tcohen he, thanks rangi 22:50 rangi ill take a look tcohen 22:50 tcohen UTC+12 are very busy people 22:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Patron::Attribute->store should raise an exception if unique_id is being broken 22:43 tcohen anyone willing to sign bug 17828? 22:41 tcohen drojf++ 22:41 tcohen hi 21:33 espen_ have you good day ahead for those who've already started out! From this end it's g'night! 21:31 wizzyrea no worries 21:31 espen_ you've been very helpful; thanks! 21:31 espen_ but I'll poke around a bit more and let you know if I get stuck with something more specific 21:30 espen_ well...it may be something indirect, my URLs aren't rending correctly and I suspect a more generic variable isn't what it should be somewhere 21:29 wizzyrea pass, I know exactly 0 about shib 21:28 espen_ so....I'm left with a question about Shibboleth but will save it for another session! 21:27 espen_ good timing 21:27 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:27 wizzyrea at work. before locking our computers and walking out the door. 21:26 wizzyrea it was literally the last thing we did yesterday lol 21:26 wizzyrea */15 * * * * root cd /tmp && koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl 21:26 wizzyrea it'd end up looking like this 21:26 espen_ (doesn't seem to be in the bug report) 21:25 espen_ ok....not just me then; I'll keep an eye on it an reintroduce the koha-foreach when a permanent solution is in place. Thanks for the tip rangi 21:22 rangi its not actually a koha problem, there are a few perl modules that have the problem 21:21 rangi its a permissions issue, something in perl 5.22 has changed 21:21 huginn` 04Bug 17717: critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm 21:21 wizzyrea https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 here's the bug 21:21 rangi before the koha-foreach 21:21 rangi just add cd /tmp && 21:21 espen_ didn't get to a solution 21:21 espen_ yeah...I started down that rabbit-hole 21:20 wizzyrea something like Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm: ./Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm: 21:20 espen_ so I'm not going nuts? :-) 21:20 espen_ if I take it out (I only have one library) everything's fine 21:20 wizzyrea rangi and i were looking at that one yesterday 21:19 wizzyrea :) 21:19 espen_ but never from cron 21:19 espen_ basically it runs of CLI 21:19 espen_ :) 21:19 wahanui Ubuntu 16.04 is the new LTS release. 21:19 espen_ Ubuntu 16.04 21:19 wizzyrea what's the OS? 21:19 espen_ so, one more question; non-critical but puzzling: I can't get /usr/sbin/koha-foreach to work 21:17 andreashm It's seems I've writen to devel before, but not the general list. Interesting. (at least to me) 21:16 * andreashm sent a mail to the mailing list. I wonder if that's a first, or if I've written before but forgotten? 21:13 espen_ that's another thing off my snagging list 21:13 espen_ thanks 21:11 wizzyrea \o/ 21:11 espen_ but not the framework 21:11 espen_ I've set it somewhere as a preference 21:11 espen_ you're right 21:11 espen_ hang on 21:10 wizzyrea This surprises me. 21:09 espen_ uhu 21:09 wizzyrea you set it in the default framework? 21:09 espen_ or the stuff I bulk-loaded 21:09 espen_ the default works for new items catalogued in koha, but not Z39.50 lookup 21:08 wizzyrea (unless you isntall the sample data, but we don't assume that.) 21:08 wizzyrea we can't make a default for it because a new Koha comes without itemtypes ;) 21:08 espen_ I have that set 21:07 wizzyrea you can default that 21:07 espen_ didn't affect our roll out, our cataloguer just got a bit annoyed that edits always required a visit to tab 9 to set the itemtype before saving 21:06 espen_ oh well, got sorted in the end, but that's useful to know 21:06 wizzyrea (it's been a while since I've had to do that, and I might be thinking of a tool in the migration toolkit anyway) 21:05 wizzyrea yeah you'd want to start with them set in the biblioitems table, and then do touch_all_biblios.pl which should rewrite the xml from the data in biblio and biblioitems. 21:05 espen_ (all my BKs became NULLs!) 21:05 espen_ the CLI tools did the inverse of what I wanted :-) 21:05 espen_ there is one that would have done it automatically? 21:05 wizzyrea that wasn't the tool I was thinking of but yep that's another way to do it. 21:05 wizzyrea and 10 items with different item types 21:05 wizzyrea you could have one bibliographic record for hamlet 21:05 wizzyrea item type on the items is how you control circulation 21:05 espen_ Tools->Batch modify MARC 21:05 wizzyrea you can have lots of item types, Adult fiction book, youth fiction books 21:05 espen_ That's what I did in the end 21:01 wizzyrea for example 21:01 wizzyrea there are tools in koha to fix up the marcxml if they get out of sync 21:01 espen_ ok, I probably didn't pick that up because we currently only have BK 21:00 wizzyrea marcxml and biblioitems should always be the same 21:00 wizzyrea items is independent of the biblio level item type 21:00 wizzyrea it can 21:00 espen_ but if I 'touch' either the 942c will override them? 20:59 wizzyrea items holds the item level item type 20:59 wizzyrea not sure what you mean by canonical reference. Biblioitems holds the biblio level item type 20:59 espen_ so...the canonical reference is the latter? 20:58 wizzyrea yep 20:58 espen_ biblioitems,items and.....this took me a while marc_xml 942c 20:57 espen_ so, on the subject of massaging the data directly in the tables, the only 'catch' I encountered with my items was that koha's itemtype seems to be stored in 3 different places? 20:54 espen_ because mysql doesn't have any other way of querying external databases..... which surprised me 20:53 espen_ currently the card data is FEDERATED database/table so the logic that gets the data on to the koha server is separate from the script I need to write to actually do the update 20:52 espen_ yeah....it should be 'safe' in that sense. one advantage I can see for the REST is that I could make it push from the card database in a single script 20:50 wizzyrea internally it uses a db assigned number. 20:50 wizzyrea none really, koha only uses the userid/cardnumber for identifying the public face of the borrower 20:50 espen_ so, between this and my alternative plan of updating the borrows table directly in mysql (update/insert from my card database) what are the potential pitt-falls? 20:48 espen_ skipped over it earlier because it looked like work in progress 20:47 espen_ looking at this now 20:47 cait there is more information about the rest api on the wiki 20:46 espen_ hmmm.... 20:45 cait brb 20:45 cait yes, but some parts are in 16.11.x 20:44 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=api/v1/swagger/definitions;h=fe3907496f2f6005ee82eecf4fb0f81c7f2f7307;hb=d3ef053c415fdab3ab59310cb4d058f6a0c50e77 20:44 espen_ work still in progress? 20:43 espen_ I've not seen the REST API; time to investigate 20:42 espen_ aye 20:42 cait tools - patron import 20:42 wahanui borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW 20:42 espen_ borrowers 20:42 cait tcohen: is the patron rest api usable do you know? 20:42 espen_ ok, so the borrow tool is the one in cgi-bin? 20:42 wizzyrea oh true 20:42 cait depending on the version you use, there might be something in the rest api 20:41 espen_ of 20:41 espen_ my design goal is to stay up to date off the repo! 20:41 espen_ ok, I'm definitely not into overly customizing 20:40 wizzyrea word of warning, if you modify Koha too much without submitting your changes, you'll have a hard time in upgrades. 20:40 wizzyrea it'll lead you to the scripts too 20:40 wizzyrea the patron import tool is in More -> tools, if you want to look at what the UI does 20:39 wizzyrea seems likely :) 20:39 wizzyrea i mean maybe they have but it's not in core Koha. 20:39 barton I think there may be a bug open for a command line import tool, but it got stuck in discussion. 20:39 wizzyrea to update the borrowers. I don't think anyone has done that yet. 20:38 wizzyrea so probably making it cli would be nice 20:38 espen_ I'm just pondering the best path 20:38 wizzyrea but lucky for you there's already a batch importer 20:38 espen_ I'm ok with that 20:38 wizzyrea you'll need to write code 20:38 wizzyrea if you wanted it fully auto, as in "someone puts a file somewhere on the server automatically and ^" that 20:38 espen_ I'm hoping to do this on the CLI so I can do it through cron 20:38 wizzyrea but you'd still have to put hands on it 20:37 barton yeah, that was the direction I was going. 20:37 wizzyrea through the UI 20:37 wizzyrea actually you might just be able to use the batch patron import completely. 20:36 wizzyrea the batch import tool might help you though 20:36 wizzyrea oh you'll have to write code to do this 20:36 espen_ I get a daily feed of card numbers keyed to what we use for the userid 20:35 espen_ my aim is automation 20:35 barton also, who's going to be changing them? Is this someting that would be handled at the circ desk on a patron by patron basis, or are you likely to have a list (if there are a zillion of them) 20:35 espen_ I'm just wondering if I'm missing something on the 'tools' level which would be more 'polite' for updating user records 20:34 wizzyrea hey eythian - what should the pacific list be? or should it just be removed 20:34 espen_ I'm aiming to automate this, and my first instinct (given the above) is to do this the database level (I can create table with the cardnumbers matched to the userid) 20:33 wizzyrea i mean, it's quite standard to change card numbers when you get a new library card. 20:33 wizzyrea how often do the cards get replaced? 20:33 wizzyrea well in the simplest case, you just change the number in Koha and you're done. 20:32 espen_ I need to decide how to best synchronise this 20:32 wizzyrea oh ew 20:31 espen_ which is, all my patrons have cardnumbers that are dynamic (ie. its the UID on a mifare card which changes each time the card gets replaced) 20:30 espen_ but I've now spent so much time in the database I'm not sure if my next challenge is best approached there or somewhere else: 20:29 espen_ no too bad; about 1000 items left from 15000 total to 'figure' out 20:29 espen_ (basically I had lots of errr....ok'ish biblios that need matching to holdings data from a separate system) 20:28 espen_ basically it means I've spend a lot of time getting dirty in the items table 20:28 barton oo, that sounds like ... um. fun? 20:27 wizzyrea nah we wouldn't judge. 20:27 espen_ back-story is that had to crow-bar data from a Voyager system with holdings data from a separate circulation system (don't ask!) 20:27 wizzyrea sup :) 20:27 barton hi wizzyrea! 20:27 barton what kinds of issues are you having? 20:27 wizzyrea hi 20:26 espen_ that's what I figured from occasional lurking! 20:26 barton well, you're in the right place :-) 20:25 espen_ as you may imagine I have a some residual issues to consider after the roll out, so was hoping to pick your brains 20:25 espen_ well, that could be either East or West from here! 20:24 barton here's a list of the regulars: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars ... some of the entries are woefully out of date. 20:23 barton espen_: we're from all over... rangi is in New Zealand. 20:22 espen_ thanks 20:21 barton welcome espen_! 20:18 espen_ I take it from the 'morning' some of you guys are well West of here! 20:17 espen_ I'm Norwegian but transplanted to the UK :) 20:16 cait where are you from? 20:16 cait welcome :) 20:09 espen_ recent koha convert joining in after a successful rollout (two weeks in) 20:08 espen_ hi guys 20:06 wahanui hola, andreashm 20:06 andreashm bonjour 19:59 cait morning rangi 19:56 rangi morning 18:22 edveal Hello 16:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons 16:45 kidclamp bug 17500 16:44 kidclamp Joubu - i tried to rebase patron search and fix for ES5 - take a look if you have a chance 16:32 reiveune bye 16:29 cait oleonard++ 16:20 cait maybe something for the mailing list 16:20 wahanui categories are only coming up with special types 16:20 cait categories 16:20 cait I am actually not sure how to do it for checouts - if all branches use the same itemtypes/patron cateogiry 16:20 archer121 cait: We don't allow holds at all. 16:19 cait archer121: you can limit holds - so they can*t place holds on items from other branches 16:18 fridolin1 kidclamp: thanks a looooooooot : 5.x indeed 16:18 cait thinking about checkouts 16:18 cait it works for holds 16:18 archer121 cait: Circulation and Fine rules? 16:17 cait hm 16:17 cait archer121: check your circulation conditions 16:14 eythian though, I'd suggest you check anyway. It's been a while since I've looked into it and things may have changed. 16:13 eythian yeah, but it's not terrible as it's all online, so it can run and the new/updated data will appear as the process runs. 16:13 Joubu would be much more quicker to update only 1 field 16:13 Joubu eythian: it is if you have to process and reindex all the records :) 16:08 archer121 I don't see any relavent system preferences 16:07 archer121 hi, currently, patrons in one branch can check out books belonging to another branch. How do I restrict this? 16:02 eythian but that's not a big deal in general. 16:02 eythian Joubu: iirc you have to update the whole record. 16:00 Joubu or do we have to* 16:00 Joubu Is it possible to update only 1 field of a record? Or do we reindex the full record? 16:00 kidclamp yeah, we should be using aliases for reindex 15:59 eythian (or, load into another index and do a drop-rename dance. That might be possible.) 15:59 eythian a regular reindex with ES can be totally online, but yeah, code changing will require a drop and reload. A future solution might be to have a feature to schedule downtime automatically while it happens, so they can set it up and tell it to start running at midnight :) 15:58 kidclamp can't break your ES instance before you present it :-) 15:57 kidclamp I have, just keep getting distracted - done talking so should be more able to test tomorrow 15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Elastic search - Configurable facets 15:57 wahanui I haven't seen 'bug', Joubu 15:57 Joubu kidclamp: seen bug 18235? 15:56 Joubu to configure/check/confirm the mappings 15:55 kidclamp then why give them a mapping tool? :-) 15:55 Joubu full reindex on an already busy server can mess everything up :) 15:55 Joubu kidclamp: I do not think we want that :) 15:54 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth. 15:54 Joubu really? 15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Change sender for serial claim notifications 15:54 Joubu marcelr: I do not understand why there are so much of your prose on bug 17866. 15:54 kidclamp changing mappings will require bib reindex too 15:53 kidclamp which I would like to see anyways 15:53 kidclamp I prefer the second - but then we need a way for staff to initiate a reindex 15:52 Joubu we need to take a decision, either sort on codes or sort on descriptions but require a reindex when code are changed 15:52 Joubu kidclamp: I do not think there are any perfect solutions 15:51 kidclamp ok, I will think more, just wanted to see if you had any solution 15:50 Joubu for libraries and patron categories at least 15:50 Joubu nope we need ES sort 15:49 kidclamp for borrower search do we need to sort in elastic, can't we just datatables sort? 15:48 Joubu no need to ask ES to sort them out 15:48 Joubu for AV you can fetch them from the DB 15:48 * Joubu is bad typing everyday 15:48 Joubu I raised it for AV 15:48 * kidclamp is bad typing today 15:48 kidclamp ;-) 15:48 kidclamp :-0 15:47 kidclamp I don't want store any, but it was an issue you raised, just trying to think on it 15:46 Joubu which description of what do you want to store in the index? 15:46 kidclamp oh and some wooulds ort right 15:46 Joubu and not all occurrences have been updated in the ES index 15:46 kidclamp you would show "zzz" but it owuld sort like "aaa" 15:45 Joubu what would happen if a description changes from "aaa" to "zzz"? 15:44 kidclamp hehe 15:44 Joubu and... ok for sorting you will need something 15:44 kidclamp but for sorting? 15:44 Joubu and fetch the description for display 15:44 Joubu kidclamp: just index the code 15:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons 15:42 kidclamp Joubu: for concern about indexing code vs. descriptions (re bug 17500) do you have any suggestions? My only thought is index code and description - use the description for sorting and the code for diplaying - so things at least look right if description changes and will be fixed on next index 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch 15:39 kidclamp ashimema bug 18316 15:36 marcelr JesseM: sometimes adding a comment that you are working on a patch may help (if they read it) 15:36 JesseM okay I will finish and submit 15:36 marcelr JesseM: would not be bad to have your signoff too on the report then 15:35 andreashm talljoy: =) 15:35 JesseM too slow 15:35 JesseM :) 15:35 JesseM okay I was just finishing the tests 15:34 marcelr JesseM: eric gosselin signed off on one patch 15:31 marcelr great drojf++ 15:30 drojf *thanks 15:30 drojf marcelr: thansk for helping with the test, i signed off on both upload bugs now 15:30 talljoy in our minds perhaps, not so much in code. hehe 15:29 andreashm talljoy: sounds like you guys have come a long way then with your work? 15:28 talljoy :D 15:27 andreashm talljoy: oh, nice! 15:27 andreashm bag: I've been saying that for two years in a row now! =) 15:27 andreashm but magnuse said he hoped to have something to show later this week. perhaps it can also be shown at the hackfest? 15:27 bag :) always next year :D 15:26 andreashm bag: sounds good. to bad none from our team could be there. 15:26 eythian ideally, all the koha-* commands should do the right thing and not give you broken stuff, and if they do, that's a bug for drojf to fix :) 15:25 cbutosi Joubu: Ok, thanks! I keep forgetting about checking the script for these things. *headsmack* 15:24 oleonard :| 15:23 talljoy kidclamp actually showed his manifestation 15:23 Joubu cbutosi: the sudo commands I pasted comes from the koha-rebuild-zebra script 15:23 bag kidclamp: showed his work 15:22 bag quick demo on some ideas and then talljoy talked high level of what linked data is 15:22 bag andreashm: it was good 15:17 eythian np 15:17 cbutosi eythian, Joubu: Thanks friends! Much appreciated, as always 15:16 andreashm how was the RDF talk at the hackfest today? 15:16 cbutosi Joubu: >>sudo -u "$instancename-koha" - Yes, this is what I was thinking, which looks the same as koha-shell {instancename} 15:16 eythian it should take care of permissions for you 15:16 eythian yeah, that's the best way 15:15 cbutosi eythian: Ah, I see. I was planning on running the Debian command, rather than running it as /path/to/script/rebuild_zebra.pl 15:15 * andreashm waves 15:14 Joubu sudo -u "$instancename-koha" 15:14 eythian (I'm fairly sure) 15:14 eythian yeah, it does 15:14 marcelr or su -c or so 15:14 marcelr doesnt it include a sudo call? 15:14 eythian that you get problems 15:13 eythian it's when you use rebuild_zebra.pl manually 15:13 eythian actually, for using koha-rebuild-zebra it should be fine 15:13 eythian well 15:13 Joubu cbutosi: yes 15:13 eythian cbutosi: yep 15:12 Joubu marcelr: yes that would certainly be better 15:12 cbutosi Hi all, I'm about manually reindex zebra (koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v {instancename}) on 16.05 package install, but haven't done it in a while. Running this script in koha-shell is probably the recommended way of doing this, right? I remember something about permissions breaking if running in root. 15:07 marcelr probably adding the name of the caller or so 15:06 marcelr Joubu: we could throw an exception in output_pref if you like that ;) 15:02 drojf marcelr: yep. thanks 15:01 drojf marcelr: will try 15:01 marcelr JesseM++ # hope to see you test it 15:00 marcelr drojf: maybe manually set your PERL5LIB and run the test again? 14:57 marcelr life of these RMs got much harder after dashboards were introduced :) 14:56 bag I pushed one this morning :) 14:56 marcelr bag: might be a problem too of the dashboard itself 14:55 marcelr bag++ 14:55 bag so we’ll see those pushed numbers jumped up a bit :) 14:55 bag yeah marcelr I will be catching up on pushing the next two days 14:55 JesseM I can test 14:54 bag JesseM ^^^ 14:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Make list permissions easier to use/understand 14:53 marcelr hi hackfesters: anyone willing to take a look at bug 18228; should not be that hard to test 14:50 Joubu I did not try it since I arrived actually. So it will depend on how my palate remembers it 14:48 cait Joubu: with coca? 14:44 bag haha! excellent 14:44 Joubu I am gonna drink Fernet tonight in your names then 14:43 Joubu bag: haha, thanks for that :) 14:43 oha at first, i made it work with the sub foo { _foo() } wrappers, but since it fights with Exporter, i might do the "right" thing 14:43 bag missed you here - last night we did a jagermeister shot in your name - cheers dood 14:43 oha I think i should remove the ugly redefs and instead modify C4::Auth to allow hijacking 14:43 bag hey Joubu 14:41 Joubu we should move them and remove the lagecy file 14:41 oha i always used the first one for my tests 14:41 Joubu the thing is that the first one has interesting options for debugging 14:39 Joubu quite the same... 14:37 oha (they are very not, mh...) 14:33 oha (are they the same, or...?) 14:33 oha will patch the other one too 14:33 oha ok, i was manually running the first to make development faster 14:32 Joubu one is for package install (debian/) the other one is for dev install (legacy) 14:30 oha what is the second one for? 14:29 Joubu oha: we have 2 psgi files: debian/templates/plack.psgi and misc/plack/koha.psgi 14:28 cait if no string changes or bad enough i can push them before the next release on monday 14:28 cait would be good to get some bugfixes in until friday 14:27 Joubu yeah, nothing pushed recently 14:27 marcelr or should we just push kyle a little bit :) 14:26 marcelr and these patches pushed counts do not increase anymore? 14:26 marcelr yeah 14:26 Joubu rangi accepts pull requests ;) 14:26 marcelr bag: maybe you can find it on another site? 14:23 bag but you would have to know what month it is :P 14:21 marcelr if dashboard would say Current month, you would not need that update anymore 14:16 ashimema hmm.. code no longer open on github 14:15 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 14:15 drojf @later tell tcohen https://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmojo-jwt-perl/news/20170321T110010Z.html 14:15 Joubu numbers are ok, the titles are not 14:14 ashimema Oh.. I see 14:13 Joubu by rangi 14:13 Joubu titles are updated manually 14:10 ashimema seems stuck at January? 14:10 ashimema hwo does the http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ get it's monthly stats? 14:07 ashimema then 17600 14:06 ashimema right.. I'm gonna go dive back into 17737.. looks good to me.. :) 14:06 drojf cool, thanks everybody 14:05 ashimema :) 14:05 drojf my work here is done :D 14:05 wahanui rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good 14:05 drojf oh. perfect! 14:05 drojf patch 14:05 ashimema nah, marcel is happy to qa as is :) 14:05 drojf ok so signoff is needed only for the last oatch? 14:05 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=12026&attachment=61449 14:04 ashimema I found a tiny bug in your rebase.. I say bug.. it wouldn't actually have mattered to be fair 14:04 drojf ha all different since i looked before the presentation. :D 14:04 marcelr drojf: just delete them ;) 14:04 ashimema haha 14:03 ashimema brill.. thanks marcelr 14:03 drojf ashimema: i just found like 30 emails about changes on that bug ;) 14:03 marcelr ashimema: ^^ 14:03 ashimema drojf when you're ready those shib patches are now back up to date 14:03 marcelr ashimema: i have no objection to SO if you did not turn it upside down 13:53 oha just pushed the changes out 13:53 oha also, removed Plack::App::CGIBin and instead using a completely cgi-free environment now 13:53 oha Joubu: fixed the warning about undef sessionID 13:48 Joubu but it definitely worth the try 13:48 Joubu probably 13:48 marcelr we will probably generate some bugs 13:47 marcelr yes I saw it Joubu 13:47 Joubu I faced it again 13:47 Joubu resurect* 13:47 marcelr ashimema: that why we have statuses 13:47 * ashimema really wants his server back now 13:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Standardize the EXPORT 13:47 Joubu that's why I revive bug 17600 yesterday 13:47 ashimema before anyone goes ahead and continue to work on it ;) 13:47 Joubu and bad import/export 13:47 ashimema there's another minor followup I need to add to that bug beyond just that btw 13:47 Joubu I would answer "circular dependencies" 13:47 marcelr no se nada 13:46 Joubu you should know, don't you? 13:46 ashimema haha.. yeah, i was very confused 13:46 Joubu you wrote the patch I mention :p 13:46 Joubu marcelr: I have no ******* idea 13:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth auto-provisioning 13:45 marcelr Joubu: bug 12026 Just want to ask you why? :) If we understood, it would certainlyu help us.. 13:34 Brooke hi :) 13:34 francharb Hi #koha 13:19 ashimema enjoy the talkf 13:19 ashimema no worries 13:19 drojf ashimema: we got an rdf talk now, i will look at it when we are done. don't remember tests failing for me 13:18 ashimema I'll be working on that shib autoprovisioning again later.. the test failure is so far completely baffling me though :9 13:17 ashimema hi drojf 13:17 * drojf waves at ashimema 13:11 wahanui hello, Brooke 13:11 Brooke Bonjour 13:11 drojf bonjour! 13:06 ashimema Hi Joubu 13:04 Brooke hi! 13:04 Joubu hi #koha 12:34 ashimema yup.. that corresponds.. thanks 12:33 ashimema cheers 12:33 marcelr ashimema: added a comment 12:23 ashimema cd 12:23 ashimema I have no idea why ldap is getting initialised at all after the patches.. it shouldn't be :( 12:22 ashimema just want to make sure we're seeing the same thing 12:22 ashimema jsut to check.. the failure you're getting on those tests is ldap related.. 12:21 ashimema haha.. yup 12:21 marcelr lending a server lol 12:21 ashimema now I'm dead in the water for a few hours whilst they use it unless I can get this other server working again :9 12:21 ashimema yeah.. i'll be pulling them down again as soon as I've fixed my gitbz install on this test server.. i made the mistake of 'lending' my main dev server to one of the team here to test somthing. 12:21 marcelr git bz can have it 12:20 oleonard git bz burned my toast this morning. 12:20 marcelr you should blame something 12:20 * ashimema blames git bz when it was likely actually user error 12:20 marcelr applying them from gitbz may be better than applying local ones (outdated?) 12:19 ashimema bloody git bz 12:19 marcelr i changed BUG to Bug etc 12:19 ashimema sorry for the cockup on that bug btw.. i've restored your patches 12:19 marcelr did you see mu comment 12:19 ashimema just trying to get my head around this failing shibboleth test at the minute.. 12:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table 12:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18284 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Biblio metadata are not moved to the deleted table when a biblio is deleted 12:19 jenkins * brendan: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions 12:19 jenkins * brendan: Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is 12:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #129: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/129/ 12:19 ashimema 'tis next on the list 12:18 marcelr ashimema: thx for your qa; dare to add the followup of Jonathan too (17737) ? 12:18 * LibraryClaire posts stinkiest cheese to oleonard 12:18 oleonard Send surplus cheese my way please. 12:15 eythian exactly 12:15 wahanui eythian: i haven't a clue 12:15 eythian wahanui: pianohacker can't even spell arse right, what would he know 12:15 wahanui eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says. 12:15 LibraryClaire hullo 12:15 marcelr hey eythian 12:14 eythian hoi marcelr 12:14 eythian hi LibraryClaire 12:14 marcelr hi #koha 12:13 LibraryClaire_ ooh an underscore, how exotic 12:13 * LibraryClaire_ is struggling to look at any more cheese 12:00 * ashimema decides to have cheese for lunch today 11:59 eythian so much cheese 11:59 eythian yeah, I think wednesday is cheese day at lunch here 11:58 oleonard :| 11:58 bag time for more cheese ;) 11:58 oleonard I think it's mostly been wishes lately wahanui 11:56 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 11:56 bag heya oleonard 11:48 oleonard Hi all 11:06 Infra_3600 thanks 11:05 cait Infra_3600: not sure that has been tested yet - most are on stable 10:57 Infra_3600 hello ! Does koha work on Debian Stretch? 10:45 Guest922 I am resending the email. :) 10:45 Guest922 ah, it was a mistake from my side. I had subscribed to "koha" and send the email to "koha-devel" 10:44 gaetan_B xenial xerus 10:44 gaetan_B anyone running 3.22 on ubuntu ? 10:40 cait it might be stuck in moderaton 10:40 cait Guest922: did you subscribe and confirm? 10:39 eythian http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/ I can't see it in these archives, fwiw 10:38 Guest922 Can someone confirm if a mail subjected "Proposal to give summer internship to students for working on Koha" did reach the list otherwise I'll resend the email. 10:37 eythian ah, in that case, nagging some people in IRC is a good thing :) 10:37 Guest922 eythian: Actually i sent it over to koha-devel list first. I did not get any responses. Maybe it did not properly get posted in the list. 10:36 eythian Guest922: on the surface, it seems like a good thing. If I were you I'd take it to the mailing list, that's probably the best place for this sort of feedback. 10:33 Guest922 Hi, we are a university in India. We would like to give an internship to a student during the summer break, in which he will work on koha. A proposal is given here: https://paste.debian.net/923231/ Can a deleloper go though this, and share his/her openion it feasibility of this idea? 10:32 * magnuse stops 10:32 eythian geez magnuse 10:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95f4c197692523d6abec712bbb003e4b710344e3> / Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36ee625f0890c80190e53f59bbb2282c3b2bfcb5> 10:32 eythian ooh, I can't share that. 10:32 eythian cait: done. 10:28 cait can someone please hack magnuse webcam? :) 10:28 cait photo? 10:28 * magnuse tries that 10:24 bag stand on one foot and sing - then it will work 10:21 magnuse so probably a data problem 10:21 magnuse bleurgh, it works on another 16.11.05 10:19 magnuse it happens both with english and swedish 10:19 magnuse yeah, no memcached on this server actually 10:19 bag as kidclamp says - when in doubt - always restart memcached :) 10:18 cait (with 3.22 - will when update probably) 10:18 cait heh yeah, we don#t run memcached yet, so that's not on my list so far 10:18 bag always memcached ;) 10:18 cait might be ar real error, but don't have a 16.11.05 available to test right now :( just trying to rule out the usual traps 10:18 wahanui memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. 10:18 bag memcached 10:17 wahanui translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ 10:17 cait hm translations? 10:17 magnuse plack restart did not help 10:16 cait until you delete your browser cache, but shift reload shoudl do the same i guess 10:16 cait the datatables things sometimes have proven to look broken after updates 10:16 magnuse cait: whaddaya mean by browsercache? 10:16 cait hm plack restart? 10:15 magnuse only shift+reload 10:14 cait have you tried browsercache? 10:14 magnuse anyone else get an error when they click on the "show checkouts" button in 16.11.05? the data is loaded from the server, but the "Loading..." message never goes away and the JS console says "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot use 'in' operator to search for 'length' in lost" 09:36 cait miss you all too - hope to see you again soon :) 09:35 talljoy miss you cait! 09:32 ashimema and the way they fail is confusing the heck out of me :( 09:32 ashimema however.. the tests still fail with it.. 09:31 ashimema it's just aobut the most obtuse way of writing it I've ever come accross though :( 09:31 ashimema aha.. I think i've nailed that line.. it does do what we want it to do.. 09:30 cait i had told some people to put stuff ont he agenda - but then noticed no wiki page :) 09:29 cait we could cancel it, but should set a new date then probably 09:29 cait noticed 09:29 cait i just notices 09:28 kidclamp there is nothing on the agenda 09:27 kidclamp up to you cait, I'd rather not chair today but can try to attend 09:26 kidclamp I will try to do some testing on those when I get back if drojf doesn't beat me to it, need to get my ssh dev site running 09:26 ashimema I'm sure drojf told me he had the autocreate stuff working too.. will be interested to see what he says when he gets in 09:25 ashimema ok.. thanks bag and kidclamp 09:25 ashimema I'll be rebaseing all the other shib patches on top of it today.. with the hope the plack fix gets in soon 09:25 ashimema kidclamp.. see my plack patch for shib 09:24 bag for autocreate 09:24 bag so we aren’t sure if it is working 09:24 kidclamp other than that plack broke shib 09:24 bag s/here/hear 09:24 bag so we think we found the site that has it in production - but we never here from them about it 09:22 ashimema `$borrower{$key} = ( $entry->{'is'} && $ENV{ $entry->{'is'} } ) || $entry->{'content'} || '';` 09:22 ashimema it's this line that makes not sense to me: 09:22 eythian hi 09:22 ashimema perhaps the logic of it has got completely lost over the mass of rebases since it was first written 09:22 * ashimema is sure he tested it at the time 09:21 bag pianohacker does have that magic black boxiness from time to time ;) 09:21 bag yeah we aren’t sure either ashimema 09:21 kidclamp lemme check ashimema 09:21 ashimema I can't see how it has ever worked.. so am trying to dig out the history 09:20 ashimema it's a patch I shamelessly stole from pianohacker to submit to community (with his permission of course) way back.. 09:20 ashimema bag.. you don't happen to know if any of your sites have the shibboleth autocreation stuff in production do you? 09:20 cait kidclamp: are we doing the dev meeting today? 09:19 ashimema cheers bag 09:19 bag but once he’s here I will tell him to ping you 09:19 * ashimema goes to dig out a long lost branch from pianohackers repo 09:18 bag he’s not in yet ashimema 09:18 ashimema bag.. if drojf is there today could you poke him to get on irc pretty please ;) 09:18 bag also the internet keeps going in and out cait 09:16 bag s 09:16 bag here cait :) just busy in little conversation 09:15 wahanui i guess everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 09:15 cait bag: where is everyone? 09:15 cait ? 09:13 bag cait wake up :D 09:11 magnuse cait: sleeping? 09:05 ashimema not yet 09:05 ashimema drojf about? 08:58 cait where are our hackfesters? :) 08:58 cait quiet even 08:58 cait ao quiwet 08:40 magnuse frioul? 08:40 magnuse ah, cool! 08:33 bag great hiking out on the islands yesterday afternoon 08:33 bag indeed :D 08:33 magnuse bag: having fun? 08:29 magnuse bag: knuckles, indeed! 08:29 bag magnuse: knuckles 08:29 magnuse bag: HI 08:28 bag morning 08:08 oha because it is required by svc/overdrive and 500, but i don't think i enabled it. OTOH i might be slightly behind master 08:07 oha is overdrive something optionally installable? 08:05 gaetan_B hello 08:03 wahanui salut, LibraryClaire 08:03 LibraryClaire bonjour 08:03 matts hello ! 07:58 oha o/ 07:52 magnuse bonjour reiveune1 07:52 reiveune1 hello 07:41 wahanui kamelåså 07:41 aleisha_ hi magnuse 07:41 magnuse kia ora aleisha_ and laurence 07:41 * magnuse cheers ashimema on 07:21 * ashimema hopes to do a few more QA's today... between my other work :( 07:18 magnuse swedish public library 07:17 cait what kind of library? 07:17 cait cool:) 07:16 * magnuse is doing a final migration/go live today 07:16 magnuse kia ora ashimema and cait 07:12 * cait waves 07:11 ashimema morning #koha 07:05 * magnuse waves 00:42 eythian And smoggy 00:41 eythian No, wood fire is pretty smelly 00:41 wizzyrea but wood smoke is not good in a city. 00:41 wizzyrea i know they're very cozy 00:41 eythian In a few decades 00:41 wizzyrea I wish they'd do something about wood fires here 00:41 eythian They have a plan to get rid of that 00:40 wizzyrea yeah that's less good. 00:40 eythian Keeping in mind that a lot of heating is still gas, so... 00:40 wizzyrea anyway well done there. 00:40 eythian Hmm, i think i saw something like that 00:39 wizzyrea I feel like I read that, I gave you a long distance mental fistbump. 00:39 wizzyrea didn't the netherlands recently outpace electrical demand with wind supply though? 00:38 wizzyrea yeah nah :( 00:38 eythian Climate change not helping 00:38 wizzyrea lol 00:38 wizzyrea ok that's ages ago. 00:38 eythian Yeah. I think 1997 was the last time 00:38 wizzyrea makes sense 00:38 wizzyrea oh so it's a thing for an especially cold winter 00:37 eythian It only happens once every ten or twenty years or so 00:36 eythian Heh no 00:36 wizzyrea has it ever been done since you've been there? 00:35 wizzyrea whoooooah 00:35 eythian "eleven city tour" 00:34 eythian https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht a 200km skating tour, when the canals freeze well enough 00:33 wizzyrea elfstedentocht < what's that? 00:33 eythian I need to find someone to do it with 00:33 eythian Yeah, the next one is the Heineken Experience 00:32 eythian We got snow, but the locals were sad due to no elfstedentocht this year 00:31 wizzyrea no museum trips lately! 00:31 wizzyrea can relate. 00:31 wizzyrea hehehehe 00:31 eythian Shit's weird 00:30 wizzyrea i tease. 00:30 wizzyrea ^.^ 00:30 wizzyrea have you gotten your head around your backwards seasons yet? 00:28 eythian Yeah, it was nice for a week. But changing spring I guess. 00:28 wizzyrea yeah it wasn't so pleasant this morning 00:27 wizzyrea oo that's pretty cold eythian 00:27 aleisha_ its warm but it was drizzling before 00:27 wizzyrea ! aleisha_ ! 00:27 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.2°C (1:26 AM CET on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 00:27 aleisha_ lots of heavy sighs and sadness on my end 00:27 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams 00:26 eythian Wow 00:26 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 00:26 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 00:26 wizzyrea it's nearly hot here 00:26 eythian Surprisingly wintery tonight 00:26 wizzyrea how even. 00:26 wizzyrea ow are your things 00:26 wizzyrea things are ok :) 00:25 aleisha_ hows things 00:25 aleisha_ hi wizzyrea and eythian 00:25 wizzyrea howdy aleisha 00:25 eythian Hi aleisha_ 00:24 aleisha_ hi all