Time Nick Message
23:25 rangi yep
23:22 tcohen until it is asynchronously loaded
23:22 tcohen we need to disable the button
23:20 rangi ahh that would break stuff
23:20 tcohen the problem with auth merge, is that it allows you to click the merge button while the merge result is not yet loaded
23:18 cait i should sleep :) night #koha
23:18 cait hm the module is a bit outdated - not latest cas standard too
23:16 rangi people have reported it for other modules too
23:16 rangi its something up with permissions when running under cron
23:15 tcohen thanks for the pointer, rangi
23:14 rangi i have a workaround, but it will hit in debian 9 (its already hit in ubuntu 16.04)
23:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm
23:14 rangi you should also take a look at bug 17717
23:09 tcohen I managed to break an authority record by merging it in 16.11
22:52 tcohen it'd be great someone has tested this simple one, so he does QA on this one too
22:52 tcohen jonathan is testing/QAing 13757 which depends on several patches that are dependencies for this
22:51 tcohen he, thanks rangi
22:50 rangi ill take a look tcohen
22:50 tcohen UTC+12 are very busy people
22:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Koha::Patron::Attribute->store should raise an exception if unique_id is being broken
22:43 tcohen anyone willing to sign bug 17828?
22:41 tcohen drojf++
22:41 tcohen hi
21:33 espen_ have you good day ahead for those who've already started out! From this end it's g'night!
21:31 wizzyrea no worries
21:31 espen_ you've been very helpful; thanks!
21:31 espen_ but I'll poke around a bit more and let you know if I get stuck with something more specific
21:30 espen_ well...it may be something indirect, my URLs aren't rending correctly and I suspect a more generic variable isn't what it should be somewhere
21:29 wizzyrea pass, I know exactly 0 about shib
21:28 espen_ so....I'm left with a question about Shibboleth but will save it for another session!
21:27 espen_ good timing
21:27 wizzyrea ^.^
21:27 wizzyrea at work. before locking our computers and walking out the door.
21:26 wizzyrea it was literally the last thing we did yesterday lol
21:26 wizzyrea */15 * * * * root cd /tmp && koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl
21:26 wizzyrea it'd end up looking like this
21:26 espen_ (doesn't seem to be in the bug report)
21:25 espen_ ok....not just me then; I'll keep an eye on it an reintroduce the koha-foreach when a permanent solution is in place. Thanks for the tip rangi
21:22 rangi its not actually a koha problem, there are a few perl modules that have the problem
21:21 rangi its a permissions issue, something in perl 5.22 has changed
21:21 huginn` 04Bug 17717: critical, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm
21:21 wizzyrea https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 here's the bug
21:21 rangi before the koha-foreach
21:21 rangi just add cd /tmp &&
21:21 espen_ didn't get to a solution
21:21 espen_ yeah...I started down that rabbit-hole
21:20 wizzyrea something like Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm: ./Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm:
21:20 espen_ so I'm not going nuts? :-)
21:20 espen_ if I take it out (I only have one library) everything's fine
21:20 wizzyrea rangi and i were looking at that one yesterday
21:19 wizzyrea :)
21:19 espen_ but never from cron
21:19 espen_ basically it runs of CLI
21:19 espen_ :)
21:19 wahanui Ubuntu 16.04 is the new LTS release.
21:19 espen_ Ubuntu 16.04
21:19 wizzyrea what's the OS?
21:19 espen_ so, one more question; non-critical but puzzling: I can't get /usr/sbin/koha-foreach to work
21:17 andreashm It's seems I've writen to devel before, but not the general list. Interesting. (at least to me)
21:16 * andreashm sent a mail to the mailing list. I wonder if that's a first, or if I've written before but forgotten?
21:13 espen_ that's another thing off my snagging list
21:13 espen_ thanks
21:11 wizzyrea \o/
21:11 espen_ but not the framework
21:11 espen_ I've set it somewhere as a preference
21:11 espen_ you're right
21:11 espen_ hang on
21:10 wizzyrea This surprises me.
21:09 espen_ uhu
21:09 wizzyrea you set it in the default framework?
21:09 espen_ or the stuff I bulk-loaded
21:09 espen_ the default works for new items catalogued in koha, but not Z39.50 lookup
21:08 wizzyrea (unless you isntall the sample data, but we don't assume that.)
21:08 wizzyrea we can't make a default for it because a new Koha comes without itemtypes ;)
21:08 espen_ I have that set
21:07 wizzyrea you can default that
21:07 espen_ didn't affect our roll out, our cataloguer just got a bit annoyed that edits always required a visit to tab 9 to set the itemtype before saving
21:06 espen_ oh well, got sorted in the end, but that's useful to know
21:06 wizzyrea (it's been a while since I've had to do that, and I might be thinking of a tool in the migration toolkit anyway)
21:05 wizzyrea yeah you'd want to start with them set in the biblioitems table, and then do touch_all_biblios.pl which should rewrite the xml from the data in biblio and biblioitems.
21:05 espen_ (all my BKs became NULLs!)
21:05 espen_ the CLI tools did the inverse of what I wanted :-)
21:05 espen_ there is one that would have done it automatically?
21:05 wizzyrea that wasn't the tool I was thinking of but yep that's another way to do it.
21:05 wizzyrea and 10 items with different item types
21:05 wizzyrea you could have one bibliographic record for hamlet
21:05 wizzyrea item type on the items is how you control circulation
21:05 espen_ Tools->Batch modify MARC
21:05 wizzyrea you can have lots of item types, Adult fiction book, youth fiction books
21:05 espen_ That's what I did in the end
21:01 wizzyrea for example
21:01 wizzyrea there are tools in koha to fix up the marcxml if they get out of sync
21:01 espen_ ok, I probably didn't pick that up because we currently only have BK
21:00 wizzyrea marcxml and biblioitems should always be the same
21:00 wizzyrea items is independent of the biblio level item type
21:00 wizzyrea it can
21:00 espen_ but if I 'touch' either the 942c will override them?
20:59 wizzyrea items holds the item level item type
20:59 wizzyrea not sure what you mean by canonical reference. Biblioitems holds the biblio level item type
20:59 espen_ so...the canonical reference is the latter?
20:58 wizzyrea yep
20:58 espen_ biblioitems,items and.....this took me a while marc_xml 942c
20:57 espen_ so, on the subject of massaging the data directly in the tables, the only 'catch' I encountered with my items was that koha's itemtype seems to be stored in 3 different places?
20:54 espen_ because mysql doesn't have any other way of querying external databases..... which surprised me
20:53 espen_ currently the card data is FEDERATED database/table so the logic that gets the data on to the koha server is separate from the script I need to write to actually do the update
20:52 espen_ yeah....it should be 'safe' in that sense. one advantage I can see for the REST is that I could make it push from the card database in a single script
20:50 wizzyrea internally it uses a db assigned number.
20:50 wizzyrea none really, koha only uses the userid/cardnumber for identifying the public face of the borrower
20:50 espen_ so, between this and my alternative plan of updating the borrows table directly in mysql (update/insert from my card database) what are the potential pitt-falls?
20:48 espen_ skipped over it earlier because it looked like work in progress
20:47 espen_ looking at this now
20:47 cait there is more information about the rest api on the wiki
20:46 espen_ hmmm....
20:45 cait brb
20:45 cait yes, but some parts are in 16.11.x
20:44 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=api/v1/swagger/definitions;h=fe3907496f2f6005ee82eecf4fb0f81c7f2f7307;hb=d3ef053c415fdab3ab59310cb4d058f6a0c50e77
20:44 espen_ work still in progress?
20:43 espen_ I've not seen the REST API; time to investigate
20:42 espen_ aye
20:42 cait tools - patron import
20:42 wahanui borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW
20:42 espen_ borrowers
20:42 cait tcohen: is the patron rest api usable do you know?
20:42 espen_ ok, so the borrow tool is the one in cgi-bin?
20:42 wizzyrea oh true
20:42 cait depending on the version you use, there might be something in the rest api
20:41 espen_ of
20:41 espen_ my design goal is to stay up to date off the repo!
20:41 espen_ ok, I'm definitely not into overly customizing
20:40 wizzyrea word of warning, if you modify Koha too much without submitting your changes, you'll have a hard time in upgrades.
20:40 wizzyrea it'll lead you to the scripts too
20:40 wizzyrea the patron import tool is in More -> tools, if you want to look at what the UI does
20:39 wizzyrea seems likely :)
20:39 wizzyrea i mean maybe they have but it's not in core Koha.
20:39 barton I think there may be a bug open for a command line import tool, but it got stuck in discussion.
20:39 wizzyrea to update the borrowers. I don't think anyone has done that yet.
20:38 wizzyrea so probably making it cli would be nice
20:38 espen_ I'm just pondering the best path
20:38 wizzyrea but lucky for you there's already a batch importer
20:38 espen_ I'm ok with that
20:38 wizzyrea you'll need to write code
20:38 wizzyrea if you wanted it fully auto, as in "someone puts a file somewhere on the server automatically and ^" that
20:38 espen_ I'm hoping to do this on the CLI so I can do it through cron
20:38 wizzyrea but you'd still have to put hands on it
20:37 barton yeah, that was the direction I was going.
20:37 wizzyrea through the UI
20:37 wizzyrea actually you might just be able to use the batch patron import completely.
20:36 wizzyrea the batch import tool might help you though
20:36 wizzyrea oh you'll have to write code to do this
20:36 espen_ I get a daily feed of card numbers keyed to what we use for the userid
20:35 espen_ my aim is automation
20:35 barton also, who's going to be changing them? Is this someting that would be handled at the circ desk on a patron by patron basis, or are you likely to have a list (if there are a zillion of them)
20:35 espen_ I'm just wondering if I'm missing something on the 'tools' level which would be more 'polite' for updating user records
20:34 wizzyrea hey eythian - what should the pacific list be? or should it just be removed
20:34 espen_ I'm aiming to automate this, and my first instinct (given the above) is to do this the database level (I can create table with the cardnumbers matched to the userid)
20:33 wizzyrea i mean, it's quite standard to change card numbers when you get a new library card.
20:33 wizzyrea how often do the cards get replaced?
20:33 wizzyrea well in the simplest case, you just change the number in Koha and you're done.
20:32 espen_ I need to decide how to best synchronise this
20:32 wizzyrea oh ew
20:31 espen_ which is, all my patrons have cardnumbers that are dynamic (ie. its the UID on a mifare card which changes each time the card gets replaced)
20:30 espen_ but I've now spent so much time in the database I'm not sure if my next challenge is best approached there or somewhere else:
20:29 espen_ no too bad; about 1000 items left from 15000 total to 'figure' out
20:29 espen_ (basically I had lots of errr....ok'ish biblios that need matching to holdings data from a separate system)
20:28 espen_ basically it means I've spend a lot of time getting dirty in the items table
20:28 barton oo, that sounds like ... um. fun?
20:27 wizzyrea nah we wouldn't judge.
20:27 espen_ back-story is that had to crow-bar data from a Voyager system with holdings data from a separate circulation system (don't ask!)
20:27 wizzyrea sup :)
20:27 barton hi wizzyrea!
20:27 barton what kinds of issues are you having?
20:27 wizzyrea hi
20:26 espen_ that's what I figured from occasional lurking!
20:26 barton well, you're in the right place :-)
20:25 espen_ as you may imagine I have a some residual issues to consider after the roll out, so was hoping to pick your brains
20:25 espen_ well, that could be either East or West from here!
20:24 barton here's a list of the regulars: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars ... some of the entries are woefully out of date.
20:23 barton espen_: we're from all over... rangi is in New Zealand.
20:22 espen_ thanks
20:21 barton welcome espen_!
20:18 espen_ I take it from the 'morning' some of you guys are well West of here!
20:17 espen_ I'm Norwegian but transplanted to the UK :)
20:16 cait where are you from?
20:16 cait welcome :)
20:09 espen_ recent koha convert joining in after a successful rollout (two weeks in)
20:08 espen_ hi guys
20:06 wahanui hola, andreashm
20:06 andreashm bonjour
19:59 cait morning rangi
19:56 rangi morning
18:22 edveal Hello
16:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons
16:45 kidclamp bug 17500
16:44 kidclamp Joubu - i tried to rebase patron search and fix for ES5 - take a look if you have a chance
16:32 reiveune bye
16:29 cait oleonard++
16:20 cait maybe something for the mailing list
16:20 wahanui categories are only coming up with special types
16:20 cait categories
16:20 cait I am actually not sure how to do it for checouts - if all branches use the same itemtypes/patron cateogiry
16:20 archer121 cait: We don't allow holds at all.
16:19 cait archer121: you can limit holds - so they can*t place holds on items from other branches
16:18 fridolin1 kidclamp: thanks a looooooooot : 5.x indeed
16:18 cait thinking about checkouts
16:18 cait it works for holds
16:18 archer121 cait: Circulation and Fine rules?
16:17 cait hm
16:17 cait archer121: check your circulation conditions
16:14 eythian though, I'd suggest you check anyway. It's been a while since I've looked into it and things may have changed.
16:13 eythian yeah, but it's not terrible as it's all online, so it can run and the new/updated data will appear as the process runs.
16:13 Joubu would be much more quicker to update only 1 field
16:13 Joubu eythian: it is if you have to process and reindex all the records :)
16:08 archer121 I don't see any relavent system preferences
16:07 archer121 hi, currently, patrons in one branch can check out books belonging to another branch. How do I restrict this?
16:02 eythian but that's not a big deal in general.
16:02 eythian Joubu: iirc you have to update the whole record.
16:00 Joubu or do we have to*
16:00 Joubu Is it possible to update only 1 field of a record? Or do we reindex the full record?
16:00 kidclamp yeah, we should be using aliases for reindex
15:59 eythian (or, load into another index and do a drop-rename dance. That might be possible.)
15:59 eythian a regular reindex with ES can be totally online, but yeah, code changing will require a drop and reload. A future solution might be to have a feature to schedule downtime automatically while it happens, so they can set it up and tell it to start running at midnight :)
15:58 kidclamp can't break your ES instance before you present it :-)
15:57 kidclamp I have, just keep getting distracted - done talking so should be more able to test tomorrow
15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Elastic search - Configurable facets
15:57 wahanui I haven't seen 'bug', Joubu
15:57 Joubu kidclamp: seen bug 18235?
15:56 Joubu to configure/check/confirm the mappings
15:55 kidclamp then why give them a mapping tool? :-)
15:55 Joubu full reindex on an already busy server can mess everything up :)
15:55 Joubu kidclamp: I do not think we want that :)
15:54 wahanui really is more trouble than she's worth.
15:54 Joubu really?
15:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Change sender for serial claim notifications
15:54 Joubu marcelr: I do not understand why there are so much of your prose on bug 17866.
15:54 kidclamp changing mappings will require bib reindex too
15:53 kidclamp which I would like to see anyways
15:53 kidclamp I prefer the second - but then we need a way for staff to initiate a reindex
15:52 Joubu we need to take a decision, either sort on codes or sort on descriptions but require a reindex when code are changed
15:52 Joubu kidclamp: I do not think there are any perfect solutions
15:51 kidclamp ok, I will think more, just wanted to see if you had any solution
15:50 Joubu for libraries and patron categories at least
15:50 Joubu nope we need ES sort
15:49 kidclamp for borrower search do we need to sort in elastic, can't we just datatables sort?
15:48 Joubu no need to ask ES to sort them out
15:48 Joubu for AV you can fetch them from the DB
15:48 * Joubu is bad typing everyday
15:48 Joubu I raised it for AV
15:48 * kidclamp is bad typing today
15:48 kidclamp ;-)
15:48 kidclamp :-0
15:47 kidclamp I don't want store any, but it was an issue you raised, just trying to think on it
15:46 Joubu which description of what do you want to store in the index?
15:46 kidclamp oh and some wooulds ort right
15:46 Joubu and not all occurrences have been updated in the ES index
15:46 kidclamp you would show "zzz" but it owuld sort like "aaa"
15:45 Joubu what would happen if a description changes from "aaa" to "zzz"?
15:44 kidclamp hehe
15:44 Joubu and... ok for sorting you will need something
15:44 kidclamp but for sorting?
15:44 Joubu and fetch the description for display
15:44 Joubu kidclamp: just index the code
15:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons
15:42 kidclamp Joubu: for concern about indexing code vs. descriptions (re bug 17500) do you have any suggestions? My only thought is index code and description - use the description for sorting and the code for diplaying - so things at least look right if description changes and will be fixed on next index
15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch
15:39 kidclamp ashimema bug 18316
15:36 marcelr JesseM: sometimes adding a comment that you are working on a patch may help (if they read it)
15:36 JesseM okay I will finish and submit
15:36 marcelr JesseM: would not be bad to have your signoff too on the report then
15:35 andreashm talljoy: =)
15:35 JesseM too slow
15:35 JesseM :)
15:35 JesseM okay I was just finishing the tests
15:34 marcelr JesseM: eric gosselin signed off on one patch
15:31 marcelr great drojf++
15:30 drojf *thanks
15:30 drojf marcelr: thansk for helping with the test, i signed off on both upload bugs now
15:30 talljoy in our minds perhaps, not so much in code. hehe
15:29 andreashm talljoy: sounds like you guys have come a long way then with your work?
15:28 talljoy :D
15:27 andreashm talljoy: oh, nice!
15:27 andreashm bag: I've been saying that for two years in a row now! =)
15:27 andreashm but magnuse said he hoped to have something to show later this week. perhaps it can also be shown at the hackfest?
15:27 bag :) always next year :D
15:26 andreashm bag: sounds good. to bad none from our team could be there.
15:26 eythian ideally, all the koha-* commands should do the right thing and not give you broken stuff, and if they do, that's a bug for drojf to fix :)
15:25 cbutosi Joubu: Ok, thanks! I keep forgetting about checking the script for these things. *headsmack*
15:24 oleonard :|
15:23 talljoy kidclamp actually showed his manifestation
15:23 Joubu cbutosi: the sudo commands I pasted comes from the koha-rebuild-zebra script
15:23 bag kidclamp: showed his work
15:22 bag quick demo on some ideas and then talljoy talked high level of what linked data is
15:22 bag andreashm: it was good
15:17 eythian np
15:17 cbutosi eythian, Joubu: Thanks friends! Much appreciated, as always
15:16 andreashm how was the RDF talk at the hackfest today?
15:16 cbutosi Joubu: >>sudo -u "$instancename-koha" - Yes, this is what I was thinking, which looks the same as koha-shell {instancename}
15:16 eythian it should take care of permissions for you
15:16 eythian yeah, that's the best way
15:15 cbutosi eythian: Ah, I see. I was planning on running the Debian command, rather than running it as /path/to/script/rebuild_zebra.pl
15:15 * andreashm waves
15:14 Joubu sudo -u "$instancename-koha"
15:14 eythian (I'm fairly sure)
15:14 eythian yeah, it does
15:14 marcelr or su -c or so
15:14 marcelr doesnt it include a sudo call?
15:14 eythian that you get problems
15:13 eythian it's when you use rebuild_zebra.pl manually
15:13 eythian actually, for using koha-rebuild-zebra it should be fine
15:13 eythian well
15:13 Joubu cbutosi: yes
15:13 eythian cbutosi: yep
15:12 Joubu marcelr: yes that would certainly be better
15:12 cbutosi Hi all, I'm about manually reindex zebra (koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v {instancename}) on 16.05 package install, but haven't done it in a while. Running this script in koha-shell is probably the recommended way of doing this, right? I remember something about permissions breaking if running in root.
15:07 marcelr probably adding the name of the caller or so
15:06 marcelr Joubu: we could throw an exception in output_pref if you like that ;)
15:02 drojf marcelr: yep. thanks
15:01 drojf marcelr: will try
15:01 marcelr JesseM++ # hope to see you test it
15:00 marcelr drojf: maybe manually set your PERL5LIB and run the test again?
14:57 marcelr life of these RMs got much harder after dashboards were introduced :)
14:56 bag I pushed one this morning :)
14:56 marcelr bag: might be a problem too of the dashboard itself
14:55 marcelr bag++
14:55 bag so we’ll see those pushed numbers jumped up a bit :)
14:55 bag yeah marcelr I will be catching up on pushing the next two days
14:55 JesseM I can test
14:54 bag JesseM ^^^
14:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Make list permissions easier to use/understand
14:53 marcelr hi hackfesters: anyone willing to take a look at bug 18228; should not be that hard to test
14:50 Joubu I did not try it since I arrived actually. So it will depend on how my palate remembers it
14:48 cait Joubu: with coca?
14:44 bag haha! excellent
14:44 Joubu I am gonna drink Fernet tonight in your names then
14:43 Joubu bag: haha, thanks for that :)
14:43 oha at first, i made it work with the sub foo { _foo() } wrappers, but since it fights with Exporter, i might do the "right" thing
14:43 bag missed you here - last night we did a jagermeister shot in your name - cheers dood
14:43 oha I think i should remove the ugly redefs and instead modify C4::Auth to allow hijacking
14:43 bag hey Joubu
14:41 Joubu we should move them and remove the lagecy file
14:41 oha i always used the first one for my tests
14:41 Joubu the thing is that the first one has interesting options for debugging
14:39 Joubu quite the same...
14:37 oha (they are very not, mh...)
14:33 oha (are they the same, or...?)
14:33 oha will patch the other one too
14:33 oha ok, i was manually running the first to make development faster
14:32 Joubu one is for package install (debian/) the other one is for dev install (legacy)
14:30 oha what is the second one for?
14:29 Joubu oha: we have 2 psgi files: debian/templates/plack.psgi and misc/plack/koha.psgi
14:28 cait if no string changes or bad enough i can push them before the next release on monday
14:28 cait would be good to get some bugfixes in until friday
14:27 Joubu yeah, nothing pushed recently
14:27 marcelr or should we just push kyle a little bit :)
14:26 marcelr and these patches pushed counts do not increase anymore?
14:26 marcelr yeah
14:26 Joubu rangi accepts pull requests ;)
14:26 marcelr bag: maybe you can find it on another site?
14:23 bag but you would have to know what month it is :P
14:21 marcelr if dashboard would say Current month, you would not need that update anymore
14:16 ashimema hmm.. code no longer open on github
14:15 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
14:15 drojf @later tell tcohen https://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmojo-jwt-perl/news/20170321T110010Z.html
14:15 Joubu numbers are ok, the titles are not
14:14 ashimema Oh.. I see
14:13 Joubu by rangi
14:13 Joubu titles are updated manually
14:10 ashimema seems stuck at January?
14:10 ashimema hwo does the http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ get it's monthly stats?
14:07 ashimema then 17600
14:06 ashimema right.. I'm gonna go dive back into 17737.. looks good to me.. :)
14:06 drojf cool, thanks everybody
14:05 ashimema :)
14:05 drojf my work here is done :D
14:05 wahanui rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good
14:05 drojf oh. perfect!
14:05 drojf patch
14:05 ashimema nah, marcel is happy to qa as is :)
14:05 drojf ok so signoff is needed only for the last oatch?
14:05 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=12026&attachment=61449
14:04 ashimema I found a tiny bug in your rebase.. I say bug.. it wouldn't actually have mattered to be fair
14:04 drojf ha all different since i looked before the presentation. :D
14:04 marcelr drojf: just delete them ;)
14:04 ashimema haha
14:03 ashimema brill.. thanks marcelr
14:03 drojf ashimema: i just found like 30 emails about changes on that bug ;)
14:03 marcelr ashimema: ^^
14:03 ashimema drojf when you're ready those shib patches are now back up to date
14:03 marcelr ashimema: i have no objection to SO if you did not turn it upside down
13:53 oha just pushed the changes out
13:53 oha also, removed Plack::App::CGIBin and instead using a completely cgi-free environment now
13:53 oha Joubu: fixed the warning about undef sessionID
13:48 Joubu but it definitely worth the try
13:48 Joubu probably
13:48 marcelr we will probably generate some bugs
13:47 marcelr yes I saw it Joubu
13:47 Joubu I faced it again
13:47 Joubu resurect*
13:47 marcelr ashimema: that why we have statuses
13:47 * ashimema really wants his server back now
13:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Standardize the EXPORT
13:47 Joubu that's why I revive bug 17600 yesterday
13:47 ashimema before anyone goes ahead and continue to work on it ;)
13:47 Joubu and bad import/export
13:47 ashimema there's another minor followup I need to add to that bug beyond just that btw
13:47 Joubu I would answer "circular dependencies"
13:47 marcelr no se nada
13:46 Joubu you should know, don't you?
13:46 ashimema haha.. yeah, i was very confused
13:46 Joubu you wrote the patch I mention :p
13:46 Joubu marcelr: I have no ******* idea
13:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth auto-provisioning
13:45 marcelr Joubu: bug 12026 Just want to ask you why? :) If we understood, it would certainlyu help us..
13:34 Brooke hi :)
13:34 francharb Hi #koha
13:19 ashimema enjoy the talkf
13:19 ashimema no worries
13:19 drojf ashimema: we got an rdf talk now, i will look at it when we are done. don't remember tests failing for me
13:18 ashimema I'll be working on that shib autoprovisioning again later.. the test failure is so far completely baffling me though :9
13:17 ashimema hi drojf
13:17 * drojf waves at ashimema
13:11 wahanui hello, Brooke
13:11 Brooke Bonjour
13:11 drojf bonjour!
13:06 ashimema Hi Joubu
13:04 Brooke hi!
13:04 Joubu hi #koha
12:34 ashimema yup.. that corresponds.. thanks
12:33 ashimema cheers
12:33 marcelr ashimema: added a comment
12:23 ashimema cd
12:23 ashimema I have no idea why ldap is getting initialised at all after the patches.. it shouldn't be :(
12:22 ashimema just want to make sure we're seeing the same thing
12:22 ashimema jsut to check.. the failure you're getting on those tests is ldap related..
12:21 ashimema haha.. yup
12:21 marcelr lending a server lol
12:21 ashimema now I'm dead in the water for a few hours whilst they use it unless I can get this other server working again :9
12:21 ashimema yeah.. i'll be pulling them down again as soon as I've fixed my gitbz install on this test server.. i made the mistake of 'lending' my main dev server to one of the team here to test somthing.
12:21 marcelr git bz can have it
12:20 oleonard git bz burned my toast this morning.
12:20 marcelr you should blame something
12:20 * ashimema blames git bz when it was likely actually user error
12:20 marcelr applying them from gitbz may be better than applying local ones (outdated?)
12:19 ashimema bloody git bz
12:19 marcelr i changed BUG to Bug etc
12:19 ashimema sorry for the cockup on that bug btw.. i've restored your patches
12:19 marcelr did you see mu comment
12:19 ashimema just trying to get my head around this failing shibboleth test at the minute..
12:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table
12:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18284 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Biblio metadata are not moved to the deleted table when a biblio is deleted
12:19 jenkins * brendan: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions
12:19 jenkins * brendan: Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is
12:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #129: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/129/
12:19 ashimema 'tis next on the list
12:18 marcelr ashimema: thx for your qa; dare to add the followup of Jonathan too (17737) ?
12:18 * LibraryClaire posts stinkiest cheese to oleonard
12:18 oleonard Send surplus cheese my way please.
12:15 eythian exactly
12:15 wahanui eythian: i haven't a clue
12:15 eythian wahanui: pianohacker can't even spell arse right, what would he know
12:15 wahanui eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
12:15 LibraryClaire hullo
12:15 marcelr hey eythian
12:14 eythian hoi marcelr
12:14 eythian hi LibraryClaire
12:14 marcelr hi #koha
12:13 LibraryClaire_ ooh an underscore, how exotic
12:13 * LibraryClaire_ is struggling to look at any more cheese
12:00 * ashimema decides to have cheese for lunch today
11:59 eythian so much cheese
11:59 eythian yeah, I think wednesday is cheese day at lunch here
11:58 oleonard :|
11:58 bag time for more cheese ;)
11:58 oleonard I think it's mostly been wishes lately wahanui
11:56 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
11:56 bag heya oleonard
11:48 oleonard Hi all
11:06 Infra_3600 thanks
11:05 cait Infra_3600: not sure that has been tested yet - most are on stable
10:57 Infra_3600 hello ! Does koha work on Debian Stretch?
10:45 Guest922 I am resending the email. :)
10:45 Guest922 ah, it was a mistake from my side. I had subscribed to "koha" and send the email to "koha-devel"
10:44 gaetan_B xenial xerus
10:44 gaetan_B anyone running 3.22 on ubuntu ?
10:40 cait it might be stuck in moderaton
10:40 cait Guest922: did you subscribe and confirm?
10:39 eythian http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/ I can't see it in these archives, fwiw
10:38 Guest922 Can someone confirm if a mail subjected "Proposal to give summer internship to students for working on Koha" did reach the list otherwise I'll resend the email.
10:37 eythian ah, in that case, nagging some people in IRC is a good thing :)
10:37 Guest922 eythian: Actually i sent it over to koha-devel list first. I did not get any responses. Maybe it did not properly get posted in the list.
10:36 eythian Guest922: on the surface, it seems like a good thing. If I were you I'd take it to the mailing list, that's probably the best place for this sort of feedback.
10:33 Guest922 Hi, we are a university in India. We would like to give an internship to a student during the summer break, in which he will work on koha. A proposal is given here: https://paste.debian.net/923231/ Can a deleloper go though this, and share his/her openion it feasibility of this idea?
10:32 * magnuse stops
10:32 eythian geez magnuse
10:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18284: [QA Follow-up] Add test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95f4c197692523d6abec712bbb003e4b710344e3> / Bug 18284: (bug 17196 follow-up) Move biblio metadata when a biblio is deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36ee625f0890c80190e53f59bbb2282c3b2bfcb5>
10:32 eythian ooh, I can't share that.
10:32 eythian cait: done.
10:28 cait can someone please hack magnuse webcam? :)
10:28 cait photo?
10:28 * magnuse tries that
10:24 bag stand on one foot and sing - then it will work
10:21 magnuse so probably a data problem
10:21 magnuse bleurgh, it works on another 16.11.05
10:19 magnuse it happens both with english and swedish
10:19 magnuse yeah, no memcached on this server actually
10:19 bag as kidclamp says - when in doubt - always restart memcached :)
10:18 cait (with 3.22 - will when update probably)
10:18 cait heh yeah, we don#t run memcached yet, so that's not on my list so far
10:18 bag always memcached ;)
10:18 cait might be ar real error, but don't have a 16.11.05 available to test right now :( just trying to rule out the usual traps
10:18 wahanui memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it.
10:18 bag memcached
10:17 wahanui translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/
10:17 cait hm translations?
10:17 magnuse plack restart did not help
10:16 cait until you delete your browser cache, but shift reload shoudl do the same i guess
10:16 cait the datatables things sometimes have proven to look broken after updates
10:16 magnuse cait: whaddaya mean by browsercache?
10:16 cait hm plack restart?
10:15 magnuse only shift+reload
10:14 cait have you tried browsercache?
10:14 magnuse anyone else get an error when they click on the "show checkouts" button in 16.11.05? the data is loaded from the server, but the "Loading..." message never goes away and the JS console says "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot use 'in' operator to search for 'length' in lost"
09:36 cait miss you all too - hope to see you again soon :)
09:35 talljoy miss you cait!
09:32 ashimema and the way they fail is confusing the heck out of me :(
09:32 ashimema however.. the tests still fail with it..
09:31 ashimema it's just aobut the most obtuse way of writing it I've ever come accross though :(
09:31 ashimema aha.. I think i've nailed that line.. it does do what we want it to do..
09:30 cait i had told some people to put stuff ont he agenda - but then noticed no wiki page :)
09:29 cait we could cancel it, but should set a new date then probably
09:29 cait noticed
09:29 cait i just notices
09:28 kidclamp there is nothing on the agenda
09:27 kidclamp up to you cait, I'd rather not chair today but can try to attend
09:26 kidclamp I will try to do some testing on those when I get back if drojf doesn't beat me to it, need to get my ssh dev site running
09:26 ashimema I'm sure drojf told me he had the autocreate stuff working too.. will be interested to see what he says when he gets in
09:25 ashimema ok.. thanks bag and kidclamp
09:25 ashimema I'll be rebaseing all the other shib patches on top of it today.. with the hope the plack fix gets in soon
09:25 ashimema kidclamp.. see my plack patch for shib
09:24 bag for autocreate
09:24 bag so we aren’t sure if it is working
09:24 kidclamp other than that plack broke shib
09:24 bag s/here/hear
09:24 bag so we think we found the site that has it in production - but we never here from them about it
09:22 ashimema `$borrower{$key} = ( $entry->{'is'} && $ENV{ $entry->{'is'} } ) || $entry->{'content'} || '';`
09:22 ashimema it's this line that makes not sense to me:
09:22 eythian hi
09:22 ashimema perhaps the logic of it has got completely lost over the mass of rebases since it was first written
09:22 * ashimema is sure he tested it at the time
09:21 bag pianohacker does have that magic black boxiness from time to time ;)
09:21 bag yeah we aren’t sure either ashimema
09:21 kidclamp lemme check ashimema
09:21 ashimema I can't see how it has ever worked.. so am trying to dig out the history
09:20 ashimema it's a patch I shamelessly stole from pianohacker to submit to community (with his permission of course) way back..
09:20 ashimema bag.. you don't happen to know if any of your sites have the shibboleth autocreation stuff in production do you?
09:20 cait kidclamp: are we doing the dev meeting today?
09:19 ashimema cheers bag
09:19 bag but once he’s here I will tell him to ping you
09:19 * ashimema goes to dig out a long lost branch from pianohackers repo
09:18 bag he’s not in yet ashimema
09:18 ashimema bag.. if drojf is there today could you poke him to get on irc pretty please ;)
09:18 bag also the internet keeps going in and out cait
09:16 bag s
09:16 bag here cait :) just busy in little conversation
09:15 wahanui i guess everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver
09:15 cait bag: where is everyone?
09:15 cait ?
09:13 bag cait wake up :D
09:11 magnuse cait: sleeping?
09:05 ashimema not yet
09:05 ashimema drojf about?
08:58 cait where are our hackfesters? :)
08:58 cait quiet even
08:58 cait ao quiwet
08:40 magnuse frioul?
08:40 magnuse ah, cool!
08:33 bag great hiking out on the islands yesterday afternoon
08:33 bag indeed :D
08:33 magnuse bag: having fun?
08:29 magnuse bag: knuckles, indeed!
08:29 bag magnuse: knuckles
08:29 magnuse bag: HI
08:28 bag morning
08:08 oha because it is required by svc/overdrive and 500, but i don't think i enabled it. OTOH i might be slightly behind master
08:07 oha is overdrive something optionally installable?
08:05 gaetan_B hello
08:03 wahanui salut, LibraryClaire
08:03 LibraryClaire bonjour
08:03 matts hello !
07:58 oha o/
07:52 magnuse bonjour reiveune1
07:52 reiveune1 hello
07:41 wahanui kamelåså
07:41 aleisha_ hi magnuse
07:41 magnuse kia ora aleisha_ and laurence
07:41 * magnuse cheers ashimema on
07:21 * ashimema hopes to do a few more QA's today... between my other work :(
07:18 magnuse swedish public library
07:17 cait what kind of library?
07:17 cait cool:)
07:16 * magnuse is doing a final migration/go live today
07:16 magnuse kia ora ashimema and cait
07:12 * cait waves
07:11 ashimema morning #koha
07:05 * magnuse waves
00:42 eythian And smoggy
00:41 eythian No, wood fire is pretty smelly
00:41 wizzyrea but wood smoke is not good in a city.
00:41 wizzyrea i know they're very cozy
00:41 eythian In a few decades
00:41 wizzyrea I wish they'd do something about wood fires here
00:41 eythian They have a plan to get rid of that
00:40 wizzyrea yeah that's less good.
00:40 eythian Keeping in mind that a lot of heating is still gas, so...
00:40 wizzyrea anyway well done there.
00:40 eythian Hmm, i think i saw something like that
00:39 wizzyrea I feel like I read that, I gave you a long distance mental fistbump.
00:39 wizzyrea didn't the netherlands recently outpace electrical demand with wind supply though?
00:38 wizzyrea yeah nah :(
00:38 eythian Climate change not helping
00:38 wizzyrea lol
00:38 wizzyrea ok that's ages ago.
00:38 eythian Yeah. I think 1997 was the last time
00:38 wizzyrea makes sense
00:38 wizzyrea oh so it's a thing for an especially cold winter
00:37 eythian It only happens once every ten or twenty years or so
00:36 eythian Heh no
00:36 wizzyrea has it ever been done since you've been there?
00:35 wizzyrea whoooooah
00:35 eythian "eleven city tour"
00:34 eythian https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht a 200km skating tour, when the canals freeze well enough
00:33 wizzyrea elfstedentocht < what's that?
00:33 eythian I need to find someone to do it with
00:33 eythian Yeah, the next one is the Heineken Experience
00:32 eythian We got snow, but the locals were sad due to no elfstedentocht this year
00:31 wizzyrea no museum trips lately!
00:31 wizzyrea can relate.
00:31 wizzyrea hehehehe
00:31 eythian Shit's weird
00:30 wizzyrea i tease.
00:30 wizzyrea ^.^
00:30 wizzyrea have you gotten your head around your backwards seasons yet?
00:28 eythian Yeah, it was nice for a week. But changing spring I guess.
00:28 wizzyrea yeah it wasn't so pleasant this morning
00:27 wizzyrea oo that's pretty cold eythian
00:27 aleisha_ its warm but it was drizzling before
00:27 wizzyrea ! aleisha_ !
00:27 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.2°C (1:26 AM CET on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
00:27 aleisha_ lots of heavy sighs and sadness on my end
00:27 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams
00:26 eythian Wow
00:26 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
00:26 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
00:26 wizzyrea it's nearly hot here
00:26 eythian Surprisingly wintery tonight
00:26 wizzyrea how even.
00:26 wizzyrea ow are your things
00:26 wizzyrea things are ok :)
00:25 aleisha_ hows things
00:25 aleisha_ hi wizzyrea and eythian
00:25 wizzyrea howdy aleisha
00:25 eythian Hi aleisha_
00:24 aleisha_ hi all