Time  Nick          Message
07:27 marcelr       hi #koha
07:47 reiveune      hello
07:48 * magnuse     waves!
07:48 * magnuse     wishes he was somewhere else
07:48 magnuse       @wudner marsielle, france
07:48 huginn`       magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes
07:48 magnuse       @wunder marsielle, france
07:48 huginn`       magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
07:48 magnuse       @wunder marseille, france
07:48 huginn`       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:49 magnuse       @wunder enbo
07:49 huginn`       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady).
07:57 magnuse       bonjour alex_a
07:57 alex_a        hello magnuse
07:57 matts         hello !
07:57 alex_a        not at the hackfest this year magnuse ?
07:57 magnuse       nope :`-(
07:59 bag           magnuse: HI
07:59 wahanui       salut, bag
07:59 magnuse       bag: HI
07:59 magnuse       everyone arrived safely?
07:59 magnuse       no hotel reservations forgotten?
08:07 matts         bag, Vieux Port
08:20 oha           o/
08:21 magnuse       \o
08:22 oha           I might sound silly now, but I was wondering about my email regarding C4::Auth and refactoring: has it been missed/ignored or should i just wait longer for feedback?
08:23 cait          probably just a difficult topic
08:23 cait          maybe add it to the agenda of the next dev meeting?
08:24 drojf         bonjour
08:24 oha           cait: yes. I want to do it even for the previous one, but i couldn't attend
08:25 cait          good morning drojf
08:25 cait          oha: it would also be a topic for the hackfest
08:25 cait          but as you are not there, not sure if you could do something remote?
08:26 oha           cait: yup, i won't. but maybe someone can bring the topic up? and we can have a chat here after?
08:26 cait          you could try emailing paul_p about it
08:27 oha           paul_p?
08:27 wahanui       paul_p is probably https://www.flickr.com/photos/133875209@N08/18600581601/in/album-72157654238168185/
08:28 cait          paul poulain
08:29 cait          he is organising the hackfest
08:29 bag           hiya cait
08:30 cait          welcome to this timezone bag
08:30 bag           hehe :) thanks!
08:30 ashimema      I think the core issue is it's a big topic and no-one has funding for time on it right now
08:30 ashimema      happy hackfest
08:35 cait          jajm: could you push to your branch maybe? I will do it tonight
08:36 cait          i mean push up to the public repo
08:37 sophie_m      hello #koha
08:37 jajm          cait, bug 18275 is still in "Koha security", shouldn't we wait for it to be public ?
08:37 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18275 is not accessible.
08:38 cait          i think right onw we are blocking people with git brnaches/customizations from updating
08:39 cait          not sure who is going to make it public hm
08:40 cait          i guess as the releases are out, we can
08:41 oha           ashimema: i think deichman is willing to put some time there (mine) but i will need help, mostly for testing CAS and Shib
08:41 oha           cait: will contact him
08:41 ashimema      it's the qa and signoff side I think are going to be hardest to work through
08:42 oha           ashimema: yeah, i can see that. OTOH it might save a lot of time on the long run?
08:42 ashimema      a few people have jumped in and tried re-writing auth.. but it's never been enough of a multi company team effort to actually work anything through :(
08:42 jajm          cait, ok, i'll push to the public repo in the morning then
08:42 ashimema      yup.. I behind you on that one
08:43 oha           just please, have a look at what i did so far. I wonder if it is easier than expected
08:43 ashimema      but I can't personally commit to looking at it unfortunately.. as cait has said.. getting a presence at hackfest will help.. so i agree with her.. if you can try and talk to paul_p and perhaps get someone whose there on side
08:44 cait          jajm: you mean tomorrow?
08:44 ashimema      feel free to try adn grab atheia when he comes online.. I know he's there (I sent him) and he's pretty technically adept so he might be able to help push it a bit?
08:44 jajm          cait, i can do it today, or tomorrow, or whenever you tell me to :)
08:44 cait          :)
08:45 cait          i just don't have ym laptop here, so that's why I will be a little later i think
08:45 cait          can't do anything withotu the keys and stuff set up
08:52 drojf         are the security releases going into the public repository? it seems they are not there yet?
08:53 cait          drojf: read back up
08:56 drojf         cait: but pushing to the public git would be a rmaint thing, wouldn't it?
08:56 cait          drojf:  i don't follow you
08:56 cait          jajm and me just talked about it
08:57 cait          I can't push before tonight because i need my laptop with the keys, jajm can whenever we want to (he said ;) )
08:57 drojf         oh haha sorry i only read half
08:57 drojf         nevermind
08:57 drojf         ok
08:57 cait          and i was pondering if i am brave enough to switch the bug to Koha
08:57 drojf         that is probably a rm thing? no idea ;)
09:22 magnuse       hiya LibraryClaire, Francesca, atheia, paul_p
09:22 Francesca     hi
09:22 LibraryClaire bonjour magnuse
09:23 atheia        hello magnuse!
09:24 magnuse       are y'all having tons of fun yet?
09:35 atheia        yeah — the traditional am/pm planning board has gone up, we have internet, there is a signoff trello board & tons of sweets!
09:35 atheia        Feels like a proper hackfest!
09:35 atheia        (Also, I'm on IRC, which is a sign of proper hackfest ;-) )
09:36 LibraryClaire HARIBO
09:39 eythian       hi
09:39 eythian       @wunder ams
09:39 huginn`       eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 10.0°C (10:25 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
09:39 ashimema      lol
09:39 ashimema      hello atheia
09:40 atheia        long time no speak ashimema :D
09:40 ashimema      :)
09:41 ashimema      Busy, busy in Marseilles I hope ;)
09:43 paul_p        hi magnuse. We miss you !!!
09:47 atheia        yeah, magnuse, real shame you couldn't make it :'(
10:11 cait          paul_p: i am starting to feel sad ;)
10:12 magnuse       paul_p, atheia: i will be there next year, promise!
10:13 * magnuse     wanders off to find norwegian lunch
10:18 atheia        Ohai cait! :-D
10:18 cait          hi atheia
10:19 atheia        Indeed, sad not to have you here this year! Miss you lots!
10:19 cait          miss you all lots too!
10:37 paul_p        cait you shouldn't: it's raining, ppl are not smart, I forgot to organize the lunch, and internet is not working.
10:44 cait          paul_p: feeling better thx :)
10:51 oha           paul_p: hey! someone suggested me to talk with you about my don quixotenian project to refactor C4::Auth
10:52 paul_p        kia ora oha.
10:52 oha           unfortunately i can't be in marseille for the hackfest, but maybe you can bring the topic there, and we can have an irc chat later, or a videoconf, or something
10:55 paul_p        oha = that would be great. What about tomorrow afternoon ? (I think joubu will be interested to join, and he's in Argentina now, so european afternoon is America morning)
10:55 fridolin      hie there
10:56 * fridolin    at #HF2017
11:00 drojf         ashimema: could you add a comment to bug 12026 please so it goes back into qa?
11:00 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth auto-provisioning
11:06 * ashimema    looks
11:06 * ashimema    would also be interested in joining any call/chat about auth
11:08 ashimema      drojf.. I'm afraid I don't remember the irc conversation about shibboleth errors at all..
11:08 * ashimema    embarks on looking through irc logs to try adn understand what the question was
11:09 drojf         ashimema: it was a private conversation last november
11:09 ashimema      ah.. that helps actualyl..
11:09 ashimema      thanks
11:11 drojf         i have been running it in production like this for a while now
11:11 drojf         so i guess it works ;)
11:11 ashimema      hehe.. yup
11:17 ashimema      done and done
11:17 * ashimema    is secretly hoping drojf might get a chance to try the plack patches :)
11:19 drojf         ashimema: thanks! yes, it is part of the plan
11:19 ashimema      :)
11:19 drojf         and i made sure i got the shib dev server to play this week, so i should make use of it
11:20 * ashimema    realises he will need to add some additional code for plack to handle the other patches.. at the moment it's based against mast which has neither the staff client auth or user creation patches
11:20 * ashimema    is happy to devote some time to that this week if any of those patches move though.. it should be trivial to update them to take plack into account
11:40 vfernandes    hi #koha
11:43 vfernandes    I have two virtualhosts for the same OPAC with different design, etc... when I log in on one of them, i don't log in on the other
11:43 oleonard      Hi hackfesters and less-fortunate non-hackfesters
11:43 vfernandes    it's possible to have the same session in the different OPACs?
11:49 cait          hi oleonard
11:49 wahanui       hi olé onard
11:49 marcelr       hi oleopard
11:50 cait          atheia: new haircut?
11:52 eythian       hi oleopard
11:52 eythian       (et al)
11:53 Joubu         Hi hk17 ;)
11:59 cait          jajm: could you push this afternoon once you are all done with lunch and the like?
12:02 francharb     hello #koha
12:05 jajm          cait, yes i can do it right now
12:06 cait          thx a lot
12:08 marcelr       jajm: If you know the token, you still need the credentials
12:10 cait          jajm: sending an email to the group too
12:10 jajm          marcelr, you don't need the credentials if you use CSRF to make an attack
12:11 marcelr       sure about that?
12:11 cait          maybe discuss in #kohasecurity ?
12:12 jajm          marcelr, if you have the credentials, why bother using CSRF ?
12:12 marcelr       :)
12:13 jajm          marcelr, i'm on #kohasecurity if you want to discuss about it
12:24 ashimema      alex_a just sent you a rebase request on bz ;)
12:25 ashimema      hopefully it's a 5 minute one ;)
12:27 oha           paul_p: ok. irc? i'll be at the keyboard
12:28 alex_a        ashimema: i did what ?
12:29 ashimema      ah.. hang on.. I think I've read the wrong name.. you signed off.. not authored
12:29 ashimema      my bad
12:30 alex_a        :)
12:30 ashimema      grr.. that's a hard thread to follow..
12:31 alex_a        Joubu: seems that you fixed the last QA comments on BZ 17282, right ?
12:33 ashimema      hmm.. I'm less sure.. maybe you did author the patches on 6979.. I was just hoping someone had a branch lying around they could rebase.. save my trying to sort out a SHA1 missing error :(
12:40 * ashimema    will dive into qa'ing 17736 tomorrow morning unless anyone beats him to it.
12:42 tcohen1       bonjour #koha
12:43 tcohen        @wunder cordoba argentina
12:43 huginn`       tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 13.0°C (9:37 AM -03 on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
12:44 marcelr       ashimema++
12:44 Joubu         alex_a: no idea
12:44 marcelr       probably noone will beat you
12:45 Joubu         @wunder buenos aires argentina
12:45 huginn`       Joubu: Error: No such location could be found.
12:45 Joubu         @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina
12:45 huginn`       Joubu: Error: No such location could be found.
12:45 marcelr       no
12:45 Joubu         ok
12:45 marcelr       does not exist anymore
12:46 Joubu         alex_a: should recheck the different points
12:52 Joubu         What's going on in Marseille? Could someone be picked (arbitrarily) to tell us what is happening, what's planned?
12:56 alex_a        Joubu: we are disgesting
12:56 cait          what Joubu said
12:56 cait          waht was for food today?
13:03 oleonard      cait and Joubu, neither of you is there this time?
13:03 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18275: Do not rely on CGI param userid to log a user in if auth is not required <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2470e225d8791d1b87daaebde2591caab6427d49> / Bug 18275: Regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3844d6f36bcee2b0e2102c2df1323cdd86940303>
13:04 alex_a        ashimema: oh yes, you was right. Will rebase 6979
13:05 ashimema      thanks alex_a :)
13:06 kidclamp      cait: asian food today, spring rolls!
13:06 * ashimema    wants spring rolls now
13:07 ashimema      kidclamp.. you doing any more ES presentations this year?
13:07 * ashimema    is wondering if any work has progressed on relevancy ranking
13:07 kidclamp      ashimema: yeah, talking RDF/ES on wednesday
13:07 kidclamp      I have not done anything with relevancy - but needs to be done
13:08 kidclamp      we need to compile a list if what must be done for ES
13:08 kidclamp      there are bugs out there that need signs offs as well
13:08 * ashimema    still has his ES Dev area setup with zebra and es side by side..
13:08 ashimema      it needs a solid drive forward again I think..
13:08 kidclamp      agreed
13:09 * ashimema    only wishes he had more time to lead the charge a bit
13:09 kidclamp      I want to test Joubus patron search this week
13:09 ashimema      :)
13:10 kidclamp      bug 18189 is a small one, but needs sign off and comments
13:10 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch sorting broken
13:12 Joubu         and auth search is broken...
13:12 ashimema      what do we loose by making that switch kidclamp?
13:12 ashimema      not sure I understand ES well enough to really sign that one off..
13:12 ashimema      it might fix sorting fine, but break searching by partial author names for all I know.. for example?
13:14 oha           or typo correction, or stemming, or matching reverse order. might be wise to have a sorting fields
13:14 kidclamp      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2017
13:15 kidclamp      we need more info there
13:15 ashimema      oha: precisely ;)
13:16 cait          kidclamp: unfair, something new!
13:16 kidclamp      ashimema: currently the waythings are done is to define indexes for sorting/faceting separate from searching
13:17 kidclamp      so if title is sortable we have title__sort fields
13:17 kidclamp      changing the type here should only affect sortability and have no effect on searhing afaik
13:21 * magnuse     sshould get back to reading that book on ES
13:22 kidclamp      https://trello.com/b/NYqWuFsO/koha-hackest-2017-hfk17
13:23 cait          it would be good to have a list
13:23 cait          of which search system preferences have any effect on elastic
13:23 kidclamp      that would be a good list :-)
13:23 cait          or we could all put them in a section for zebra and have another for elastic
13:23 cait          so people don't get confused
13:24 Joubu         kidclamp: +my $item = Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>$itemnumber, barcode=>$barcode});
13:24 magnuse       both of those sound like good ideas
13:24 Joubu         kidclamp: What is the expected behavior?
13:25 Joubu         itemnumber and barcode are both unique key (first is PK, the other one is unique)
13:25 kidclamp      only one of the variables should be defined - I thought it only populated the query if the vriable was defined'
13:25 kidclamp      so expected that it would fetch given either - seemed to work in my testing
13:27 Joubu         say Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>100, barcode=>'aaa'})->title; # display the title for itemnumber 100 (no 'aaa' barcode)
13:27 Joubu         say Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>100, barcode=>'bbb'})->title; # display the title for itemnumber 100 (no 'bbb' barcode)
13:28 Joubu         I'd prefer to see something explicit, like Koha::Items->find( { ( $itemnumber ? ( itemnumber => $itemnumber ) : ( barcode => $barcode ) } );
13:32 kidclamp      fair enough, trying to be too clever (lazy)
13:33 cait          hm barcoe can be null
13:33 cait          maybe something you'd need to catch
13:34 alex_a        ashimema: rebased!
13:34 ashimema      cheers
13:36 * andreashm   waves
13:37 andreashm     Hi marseille peep, and all others (like me) who are not there.
13:37 andreashm     peeps
13:38 atheia        hi andreashm :-)
13:38 kidclamp      updated Joubu
13:40 andreashm     hi atheia! at the hackfest?
13:40 atheia        Yup!
13:40 andreashm     nice.
13:40 andreashm     wish I was there too. =)
13:48 * cait        sends chocolate to all the non-hackfesters
13:50 cait          atheia: where are our updates? and what's witht he paper on the wall? :)
13:51 magnuse       hiya andreashm
13:52 tcohen        thanks, cait
13:52 * cait        has some chocolate herself
13:53 andreashm     oh, chocolate!
13:53 wahanui       reiveune ate them all
13:53 reiveune      :)
13:53 andreashm     hiya ciat, magnuse, tcohen!
13:53 andreashm     cait
13:53 * tcohen      wants pictures from cheese day
13:54 * Joubu       wants the smell of cheese day
13:55 * magnuse     wants the cheese of cheese day
13:55 magnuse       ...and the cheesiness
13:56 magnuse       i think i must procure a few nice cheeses in time for the day and have a bit of a feast anyway
13:57 magnuse       andreashm: life and other customers keep getting in my way, but I still hope to have something semantic to look at before the week is over
13:57 rsantellan    good morning #koha
13:58 andreashm     magnuse: brilliant!
14:01 atheia        cait: updates!? eek, well — patches are being signed off; I'm feeling irate at sandboxes
14:01 atheia        And I'm preparing stuff for stockrotation and ILL.
14:01 atheia        The papers on the wall are scheduled presentations!
14:01 atheia        Also, check out
14:01 atheia        https://trello.com/c/50udcLcK/54-bug-17560-hold-fee-placement-at-point-of-checkout
14:01 atheia        Oh sorry
14:01 cait          atheia: yeah they are not readable on the photos :)
14:01 atheia        https://trello.com/b/NYqWuFsO/koha-hackest-2017-hfk17
14:02 atheia        It's where signoffs & QA's at for bugs.
14:03 atheia        Ah — do you want a higher res pic?
14:03 * ashimema    looks at that qa queue
14:03 rsantellan    I have a question about moving from koha 16.05 to 16.11. I'm missing the dependency on Can't locate Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch.pm on the updatedatabase.pl
14:04 magnuse       bonjour talljoy! reached marseille yet?
14:04 talljoy       oui!
14:04 talljoy       just made it to the Biblibre office
14:04 magnuse       woohoo!
14:04 magnuse       welcome ;-)
14:15 andreashm     has it been decided which day is RDF day?
14:19 cait          rsantellan: odd - how did you update?
14:21 rsantellan    git checkout origin/16.11.x
14:22 cait          so you are running a git install?
14:22 rsantellan    change the apt file to stable
14:22 wahanui       rsantellan: that doesn't look right
14:22 cait          with or without plack?
14:22 rsantellan    with plack
14:22 cait          that's not a dependency i think, it's a Koha module
14:22 cait          so something else is wrong
14:22 ashimema      eythian are you attending yapc::europe by any chance?
14:22 rsantellan    I run it by hand on the koha-shell and it worked
14:23 cait          did you restat plack?
14:23 cait          yeah, always run the installer on the koha-shell with plack and git
14:24 rsantellan    I had the vm shut down, I change the branch and then start it up. Plack save the data from the last session? Do you have to restart plack even when you are restarting the machine?
14:28 cait          not sure if you do a vm shut down not only pause it that should probably work
14:28 cait          but still runnign from koha-shell is the way to go
14:31 ashimema      alex_a.. that';; be a nice one to get off the pile ;) passed qa
14:31 rsantellan    cait: alright, I will do that from now on! Thanks a lot!
14:33 magnuse       hm, if you enable emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced is there a way to get email only when a hold is placed on an on shelf item? or should this be left off and use the "holds to pull" report instead?
14:34 cait          i'd recommend the latter
14:34 cait          the feature is quite limited
14:34 cait          it hink also not unproblematic for multi-branch systems
14:34 cait          ok... linux question
14:34 cait          how do i get a list of files from a directory that matches a certain criteria like 'contains word x'?
14:35 magnuse       cait:  grep "x" *
14:36 magnuse       and thanks
14:36 cait          that looks inside the file :)
14:36 cait          i just want the files with the names
14:36 matts         find . -name '*x*'
14:37 cait          looks good
14:37 cait          thx matts!
14:37 cait          magnuse++ matts++
14:37 alex_a        ashimema: thx
14:37 matts         -iname if you want it case insensitive
14:37 cait          working well enough
14:37 cait          trying to get a list of languaguge codes from the po directory
14:38 Joubu         -depth 1?
14:38 cait          it's ok for now it hink - thx!
14:40 cait          hm actually, still something wrong
14:40 cait          i still get all files listed
14:40 cait          ?
14:40 cait          i just wanted a list of all... say opac po files
14:41 cait          without the others
14:41 cait          ls -l  *opac* ... sorry
14:42 magnuse       ls *opac*
14:42 magnuse       ls -1 | cut -d'-' -f1,2 | sort | uniq | grep -v -e ".po" -e opac -e staff -e marc
14:42 magnuse       so many ways to skin the proverbial cat...
14:43 andreashm     General question: Do you think there are any other libraries that would be interested in seperate (split) hold queues, rather than just one as today, when for example hold fulfillment is limited by itemtype or pickup location is same as home library?
14:43 cait          yeah and i treid lots of things,... but not the most simple :)
14:43 magnuse       @quote get 123
14:43 wahanui       http://xkcd.com/1172/
14:43 huginn`       magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:43 cait          andreashm: split, how?
14:44 andreashm     cait: for the same bib. When you request a hold for a specific item type, that patron isn't on hold for everything, just the books that are of that item type.
14:44 andreashm     we see this as two hold queues.
14:46 andreashm     Item type A can have three holds, and type B only one. And if the one for B came in last, it will show in Koha and number 4. This confuses the hell out of our patrons, where they sometime think they will wait a long time for a hold, when in reality it might be a week.
14:47 cait          hm not sure i can't follow right now
14:47 cait          are you using the holds to pull or the holds queue?
14:47 andreashm     Holds queue.
14:47 wahanui       rumour has it holds queue is to do with that table
14:48 cait          so you want to see all holds instead of one,is that it?
14:49 andreashm     nope, just show them as several queues.
14:49 andreashm     like: "Book title" item type A (3), item type B (1).
14:49 andreashm     today it show was "Book title" (4)
14:50 cait          sorry, not getting it :(
14:50 andreashm     Not explaining it very well.
14:52 andreashm     Humm, thinking of how to explain it differently.
14:59 ashimema      you mean item level holds as opposed to bib level holds basically andreashm.. right?
14:59 andreashm     its the same for the preference "same pickup library is item's home library".
14:59 ashimema      oh.. perhaps now
15:00 ashimema      s/now/not
15:00 andreashm     ashimema: not quite.
15:00 ashimema      taking location into account
15:00 andreashm     say your public library also has a school library affiliated with it. books from there should not be sent to other branches for hold, and vice versa.
15:01 andreashm     ashimema: location (branch in this case) and/or item type
15:01 ashimema      so basically split by how a hold can be forfilled
15:04 andreashm     damn, got disconnected.
15:04 andreashm     but ashimema, yes exactly!
15:05 ashimema      did that also clarify it for you cait?
15:05 ashimema      I can see it being helpful.. though I can also see if being challenging to impliment
15:05 andreashm     when hold fulfillment syspref are set to allow, it doesn't make sense (at least to us) to have one hold queue. We are wondering if anyone else thinks the same. =)
15:06 cait          sorry, have to concentrate on something here, will read back
15:07 andreashm     ashimema: possibly. I've spoken to khall about it a little and he seems to think it can be done (at least "virtually", i.e. showing it as seperate hold queues in staff/opac, while it is still only one queue beneath). He was not sure about what the community would think of it though. Hence my quick question here. =)
15:09 khall         andreashm: ashimema: yeah, it would require a pretty significant re-engineering of the holds system to have multiple holds queues per record. Would you agree ashimema?
15:09 ashimema      perhaps ask the mailing list.. I think more librarians read that ?
15:10 khall         that's a capital idea
15:10 ashimema      I think so.. I'm not entirely sure..
15:10 ashimema      but yeah.. I think it's worth asking on the mailing list for comments as to whether it's broadly usefull.. I'm coming at it from a dev perspective so can't really comment on the librarian side andreashm
15:10 ashimema      :)
15:11 khall         andreashm: I think ashimema has a good idea. Put it out on the mailing list and see if there are other libraries out there that would use such a feature
15:12 andreashm     Sounds great khall (and ashimema)!
15:13 andreashm     will write an e-mail to the list.
15:13 andreashm     thanks for the input guys!
15:14 andreashm     ashimema++
15:15 andreashm     khall++
15:15 ashimema      :)
15:17 cait          i think my brain is not ready for holds today
15:19 andreashm     cait: that's how I feel most days. =)
15:19 matts         He's holding you back !
15:19 matts         badum-tss
15:19 barrc         Hey, has anyone come across koha indexing borrower details in the biblio search index??? Eg, a catalogue search for a borrower name gets a hit on the borrower that has the item checked out!?
15:20 cait          that#s not possible
15:20 cait          unless you have the name in an item field for example
15:20 cait          internal note?
15:20 wahanui       internal note is not displayed in the opac
15:20 barrc         yup, that's what I though. but it is happening!
15:20 cait          it really can't
15:20 cait          technically not possible, unless you have it in the data
15:20 cait          zebra indexes marc - it would have to be in a marc field
15:20 cait          check items
15:21 cait          and the marcxml
15:21 wahanui       the marcxml is a representation of the usmarc in xml
15:21 barrc         have checked almost everywhere, not certain about items though, I will check that (although not sure where or have the information could be getting in there)
15:22 cait          my first thought would still be internal note or something like this
15:22 cait          also, if you have IncludeSeeFromInSearches - check the linked authorities for the name
15:22 barrc         if the item gets checked in the search doesn't match though
15:22 cait          becaus they get pulled into the search
15:23 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #127: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/127/
15:23 jenkins       * kyle: Bug 18275: Regression test
15:23 jenkins       * kyle: Bug 18275: Do not rely on CGI param userid to log a user in if auth is
15:23 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18275 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , opac-memberentry.pl security vulnerabilities
15:24 barrc         IncludeSeeFromInSearches is disabled.
15:25 drojf         khall: could you please push 18222 and 18243 soon? they are just fixes for tests and make the nightly builds happy
15:25 khall         will do drojf!
15:26 drojf         khall: awesome, thanks!
15:36 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18222 - Fix tests broken by Buug 18026 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d8e83528f39a2d8401f7ed50888c595f48205f5> / Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: Conditionally test Koha::ExternalContent::* modules loading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6c2858c4faf71920912c3e2df92225b45548c9d> / Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of WebService::ILS::Ov
15:57 cait          everyone gone already?
15:57 matts         nope
15:57 matts         Still there
15:57 cait          so quiet
15:58 matts         Almost beer-o-clock though :)
15:59 oleonard      Please raise a glass to sad missing comrades.
16:00 * kidclamp    will do that oleonard
16:00 matts         will do :)
16:03 eythian       ashimema: I haven't given it any thought, but I probably should.
16:04 * ashimema    is hoping to attend and wondered who he might know there
16:04 drojf         [off] eythian: thanks for the beer pic, but barley in general is not my friend
16:04 eythian       drojf: yeah, thought that was the case.
16:04 drojf         nobody is beering. french clocks are broken
16:05 LibraryClaire my brain is beering
16:05 * ashimema    would like to beer
16:05 * ashimema    wishes the hackfest gang happy berring
16:05 ashimema      s/berring/beering
16:09 * cait        is immune to all the beer talk
16:09 cait          maybe that's my secret super power....
16:10 eythian       you should trade it in for a better superpower
16:10 reiveune      bye
16:15 matts         hackfest attendees, do you want to have a beer? We were thinking about going to a different spot, for a change.
16:15 cait          !
16:18 matts         There: https://www.google.fr/maps/@43.2953537,5.3860471,3a,75y,289.63h,84.5t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sLjl2rr0px3Y9C4w42vWW0A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i38
16:21 matts         bye
17:19 jenkins       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #128: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/128/
17:19 jenkins       * kyle: Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of
17:19 jenkins       * kyle: Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: Conditionally test Koha::ExternalContent::*
17:19 jenkins       * kyle: Bug 18222 - Fix tests broken by Buug 18026
17:19 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18243 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Bug 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of WebService::ILS::OverDrive::Patron at testing
17:19 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18222 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Fix tests broken by Bug 18026
18:25 barton        hey, I was talking to kidclamp; he said that the issues concerning sysprefs like intranetuserjs and opacuserjs not being updated without restarting plack had been resolved in master -- does anyone know the bug number for that? I've tried grepping the release notes for 'plack' and 'syspref' as well as bugzilla searches for the same -- I'm coming up empty.
18:27 barton        does this ring a bell with anybody?
18:29 eythian       maybe look in relation to "cache" or "caching" too
18:29 eythian       (just speculating, I have no real info.)
20:03 * magnuse     wonders what all the cool people in marseille are doing
20:05 * cait        tries not to :)
20:11 magnuse       well we who are not in marseille are doing pretty cool things too, right cait?
20:11 cait          um .. sure?
20:11 magnuse       i, for one, am doing a security upgrade of my customers, for example
20:12 magnuse       pretty darn cool
20:12 cait          :)
20:12 cait          I pushed stuff
20:12 magnuse       yay
20:12 cait          and had home made red lentil soup
20:12 magnuse       high five!
20:12 * magnuse     should be translating
20:13 magnuse       but its soooo booooring...
20:13 cait          :)
20:13 cait          stop putting it off for so long, than it won't build up as much ;)
20:13 magnuse       that is certainly true
20:14 magnuse       but i had other stuff to do...
20:14 magnuse       and its soooo booooring...
20:14 cait          hehe