Time  Nick            Message
00:23 BobB            wow siletzlib  didn't give us a lot of time
00:23 jac             no he didn’t
04:34 dcook           For anyone who wants their mind blown:
04:34 dcook           https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Grey_square_optical_illusion.PNG
04:34 dcook           Squares A and B are actually the same color: RGB 120,120,120
04:35 dcook           You can verify this by replacing everything except those squares with a white background. Once you do that, your eyes will adapt, and they'll look like the same colour.
06:45 * magnuse       waves
07:37 marcelr         hi #koha
07:56 alex_a          hello
08:56 cait            good morning #koha
09:18 * magnuse       waves again
09:20 oha             o/
10:54 magnuse         kia ora khall
10:59 oha             quick update, i managed to refactor completely the authentication and session management, and the mechanism used to generate templates and permissions. right now it is modular, and has different plugins for session (memcached and db for now) and for auth (only simple auth)
10:59 oha             got it working on my box at least, pretty happy about it
10:59 marcelr         oha: thats sounds promising at least
11:00 oha             yup
11:00 marcelr         oha: would your solution with sessions deal with a lot of concurrent users and thus a lot of sessions ?
11:00 oha             need to do some clean up, but i think i reduce the code by 10 times
11:00 oha             i think so
11:01 oha             but there is a catch
11:01 oha             it will work only on plack
11:01 marcelr         so you need enough memory
11:01 oha             i hadded a middleware for session management and authentication
11:01 oha             marcelr: why? it is stored on db or memcached for now
11:01 marcelr         probably most koha boxes still use the database
11:02 marcelr         the memcache option for sessions is newer
11:02 oha             speaking of, the sessions table miss the expiry column
11:02 oha             but anyways, it will take time to get this into master
11:02 marcelr         it is in the record
11:02 oha             shib and cas need to be reimplemented on the new system
11:02 marcelr         did you put your code on a report already?
11:03 oha             marcelr: yeah, but you might want to do cleanup
11:03 * ashimema      would love to push for Plack only support and migrate away from our horrible plack in cgi compatibility cruft
11:03 marcelr         takes 10 years ?
11:04 oha             not really
11:04 marcelr         ok
11:04 * ashimema      apologises in advance for the plethora of join/parts he may inflict on people today.. currently running on a mobile connection as the land internet is dead :(
11:05 oha             ashimema: my though is to refactor ONLY for plack, which might give a push towards that
11:06 oha             i even tried to move the cgi script to functions, and it works pretty well after the refactoring
11:06 ashimema        mm, well. I'm not sure how much push back will happen on that.. I'd love to see it, but I tihnk last time it came up it went down like a stone :(
11:07 oha             must go lunch now, but i was thinking to share my findings and discuss about it
11:07 marcelr         oha: put it on a report and send a mail to the dev list
11:08 marcelr         and have a lot of patience ;)
11:57 oha             marcelr: sounds like a good plan. maybe i should push it on a branch on github?
11:57 marcelr         yeah
12:41 * druthb        steps up to the mic, and sings "Happy Birthday" to cait, at the top of her lungs.
12:43 magnuse         ooh, happy birthday cait!
12:44 magnuse         confetti!
12:45 magnuse         (my calendar knew that, but i only look at it if i am putting new things into it)
12:49 oleonard        Hi all
12:51 magnuse         howdy oleonard
12:58 tcohen          morning #koha
12:58 tcohen          @later tell drojf what about 16.05.10 packages?
12:58 huginn`         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:59 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:59 huginn`         tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
12:59 cait            thx druthb! magnuse!
12:59 magnuse         cait!
12:59 druthb          cait!
12:59 druthb          cait++
13:13 cait            druthb: thx for remembering :)
13:14 druthb          :)  I have a calendar that remembers for me--and unlike magnuse, I actually look at mine.
13:15 cait            druthb++ for being organized
13:15 magnuse         ooh, clever!
13:15 magnuse         druthb++
13:24 tcohen          @seen drojf
13:24 huginn`         tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <drojf> later #koha
14:02 magnuse         NateC!
14:02 magnuse         kidclamp!
14:02 NateC           hiya magnuse!
14:05 kidclamp        hi magnuse
14:05 magnuse         bonjour!
14:06 magnuse         @wunder enbo
14:06 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (2:50 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
14:06 magnuse         @wunder marseille, france
14:06 huginn`         magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 17.9°C (3:00 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
14:06 magnuse         ooh!
14:14 kidclamp        happy birthday cait!
14:19 cait            thx kidclamp
14:53 marcelr         bye #koha
15:11 oleonard        Happy birthday cait!
15:11 * oleonard      adds it to his calendar
15:11 cait            thx oleonard
15:11 cait            :)
15:14 eythian         oh! happy caiterday!
15:14 cait            thx eythian :)
15:14 eythian         @wunder ams
15:14 huginn`         eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.3°C (4:11 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
15:15 eythian         who's a bad hoevedorp? You are! You're a bad hoevedorp!
15:19 kchris          Happy birthday cait!
15:20 cait            thx kchris
15:20 * cait          shares virtual birthday cake with #koha
15:21 cait            @wunder Konstanz
15:21 huginn`         cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 11.2°C (4:11 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
15:21 cait            mostly sunny here today
15:21 * oleonard      hopes LibraryClaire is not here because she's preparing cait's party
15:22 cait            hm no party that I know of
15:23 oleonard        that you know of
15:26 eythian         oleonard: she's been away a few days I think, so it must be a big one!
15:26 oleonard        cait deserves it!
15:26 oleonard        If LibraryClaire doesn't come through I'll bring a birthday cake with me to the next hackfest I make it to.
15:28 cait            i will keep that in mind :)
15:29 * oleonard      thinks that by the time he makes it to another hackfest he'll need to bring 3 or 4 cakes...
15:29 cait            hope it won't that long
15:31 oleonard        LibraryClaire: Did you feel your ears burning?
15:31 LibraryClaire   hm?
15:32 * LibraryClaire woke up from a nap and is horribly bored
15:33 oleonard        We were all talking about how much we missed you. And, uh... the hypothetical birthday cake you were making for cait.
15:33 LibraryClaire   aah
15:33 LibraryClaire   I has the lurgy
15:33 oleonard        All the lurgies?
15:33 LibraryClaire   feels like
15:35 LibraryClaire   probably best cake waits until I can't fill it with icky virus
15:35 * cait          would prefer that :)
15:36 * LibraryClaire contemplates having another nap
15:36 oleonard        No question about it.
15:39 LibraryClaire   the nap?
15:39 oleonard        yes
15:40 LibraryClaire   yeah, computer is hard work, it might go back on the floor
15:45 * LibraryClaire lies down
15:45 LibraryClaire   laters
15:59 reiveune        bye
16:25 baptiste        is there any function to check if a value of a multivaluated system preference is on ? I don't find any
16:32 cait            have you looked at the systempreferences sql table?
16:33 cait            they are still only stored as a value i think, possibly separted by |
16:35 baptiste        salut
18:07 rocio           morning
21:48 nuentoter       is there any way to get my overdue list to print for a specified list of patrons only? whether they meet the status trigger or not?
21:49 wizzyrea        hm, you mean from the report in the circulation module?
21:55 nuentoter       sorry just realized i worded that poorly
21:55 nuentoter       I would like to print my overdue notices from a list rather than from the status trigger, is that possible?
21:56 wizzyrea        Oh, um. Hm.
21:56 wizzyrea        I am certain it could be arranged, but I don't think it's currently a feature, no
21:56 wizzyrea        well hm I say that
21:56 nuentoter       ok, i didn't think so, but I have been well known to completely miss obvious things
21:56 wizzyrea        if you have a look
21:56 wizzyrea        at the circulation -> overdues
21:57 wizzyrea        i think you can do them one by one
21:57 wizzyrea        but that's probs not what you're after
21:58 wizzyrea        there is also
21:58 wizzyrea        a "download file of all overdues"
21:59 wizzyrea        from that report
21:59 wizzyrea        and I'm not SURE but you could check
21:59 wizzyrea        that the filters will affect what's downloaded there.
21:59 nuentoter       i have a list of 180 patrons that will not show up in the status trigger because of certain rules but they still need a letter sent out
21:59 wizzyrea        hm.
22:00 wizzyrea        well, ok, can you put those borrowers into a category
22:00 wizzyrea        and set special triggers for them?
22:00 nuentoter       ooh thats an idea, because i can batch edit them, even temporarily
22:00 wizzyrea        yep
22:01 nuentoter       that should be much easier, that copy pasting 180 letters and items and info ..... was not looking forward to doing it the long way
22:01 wizzyrea        you have a good point though that sending arbitrary overdue notices would be nice
22:01 wizzyrea        like say, from a patron list
22:01 nuentoter       yup i made the list just assuming i could, but then found out nooo.
22:01 wizzyrea        "send these borrowers notices I say!"
22:02 wizzyrea        do you know what would be awesome
22:02 wizzyrea        heh
22:02 wizzyrea        it would be awesome to say, run that overdue report from circ
22:02 wizzyrea        put on some filters
22:02 wizzyrea        and then say "export these borrowers to a list"
22:02 wizzyrea        and then "print notices for these borrowers overdues"
22:02 nuentoter       i did pretty much that, except the print notice for these ppl part
22:03 wizzyrea        but by hand :)
22:03 nuentoter       yeah
22:03 wizzyrea        I mean have a button on the overdues list that makes a list of the unique borrowers there
22:03 wizzyrea        automagically
22:04 wizzyrea        so many ways to use patron lists. we could do more of that.
22:04 nuentoter       printing patron cards and edit and delete are pretty much all the patron list seems good for atm