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06:07 mtompset Gave a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
06:13 drojf hi #koha
06:25 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:25 huginn cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃƒ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 6.0Â°C (7:23 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 4.0Â°C. Windchill: 6.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
07:07 * magnuse waves
07:07 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:07 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0Â°C (7:50 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -13.0Â°C. Windchill: -11.0Â°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 981 hPa (Steady).
07:08 yyy urgent help needed
07:08 yyy we are using acquisitions module when i received book of amount say 9240 after clicking on finish receiving
07:08 yyy it only shows 9 as spent
07:09 yyy what would be going wrong frm my side
07:09 yyy can someone quickly help
07:10 magnuse yyy: i know very little about the acquisitions module, but which version are you on?
07:10 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:10 magnuse guten moregen BuchereiKlara
07:10 yyy latest version
07:10 yyy i tried to upgrade it as well to understand if any bug would be there is fixed
07:10 yyy but no luck
07:10 yyy i am stuck
07:10 magnuse so 16.11.4?
07:11 yyy is there any one who can suggest wht is wrong i am doing here
07:12 magnuse it might be a bit early, europe is just starting to wake up
07:12 yyy oh k
07:12 LibraryClaire hei magnuse
07:13 yyy will repeat question again later
07:14 drojf @wunder sxf
07:14 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 6.0Â°C (7:50 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0Â°C. Windchill: 3.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
07:23 magnuse bonjour fridolin
07:25 fridolin magnuse: LibraryClaire : bonjouuuuur
07:27 marcelr hi #koha
07:27 LibraryClaire salut fridolin
07:27 LibraryClaire moin drojf
07:28 marcelr hi LibraryClaire
07:28 LibraryClaire hey marcelr :)
07:28 * LibraryClaire tries to catch up on hellos
07:28 marcelr your doing a good job..
07:29 drojf hi marcelr
07:29 marcelr hi drojf
07:29 drojf hi LibraryClaire
07:44 magnuse weird, i have a 16.11.4 running on plack where trying to view holds on /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=x gives an error, but i can't reproduce it elsewhere
07:44 eythian_ @wunder ams
07:44 huginn eythian_: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0Â°C (8:25 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling).
07:57 oha o/ morning!
07:59 marcelr o/
08:01 magnuse o/
08:02 reiveune hello
08:11 LibraryClaire o/
08:14 * cait waves
08:21 drojf why does items.content in messaging work for some fields and not for others?
08:21 drojf like, i get the item barcode, but i don't get the call number
08:21 drojf or, i get the title, but not the author
08:30 magnuse btw, my problem with showing reserves earlier was a data problem
09:01 cait drojf: the itemscontnet is defined in the crnjob
09:02 cait the fields it includes
09:02 cait you can have one definition for overdues and one for advancednotices
09:02 cait and we have the callnumber there - i think it should work
09:13 magnuse if you search for a patron and find only one you are sent on to the page for that patron. anyone know where the js code that does the sending on lives?
09:16 cait hm is it js?
09:16 magnuse not sure, i just assume so
09:16 cait i think i would look at the patron search routine first
09:17 magnuse the problem i'm seing is that with swedish translation activated i am sent on to /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=undefined which does not work too well, of course
09:17 oha what is stored in sessions? anything that should survive a restart?
09:17 oha magnuse: "undefined" smell like js indeed :)
09:17 cait hm could it be a template translation error?
09:18 magnuse yup, i suspect so
09:18 magnuse works in english
09:18 cait hmm
09:18 magnuse oops, it fails with norwegian translation too
09:19 magnuse cait: feel like checking german?
09:19 magnuse i'm on 16.05.09, btw
09:20 cait don't have a current version one (
09:20 cait i know it works in our 3.22
09:20 cait i am failing to find the patron search routine in perl... even
09:23 marcelr merge updates the bib records, yes
09:23 oha koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/member.tt line 214 cait
09:24 oha cait: looking at it, the data sent back from the ajax call miss the borrowernumber
09:24 oha sorry, it was for magnuse
09:32 magnuse oha: yeah, something goes amiss there, but what? and why only for translations?
09:33 oha I don't know how to change the language, i wonder if I should have done something during install time. but if i were you i would inspect the network traffic for a case where you get 2+ entries, and check the json response
09:34 oha it's http://127.0.0.1:8081/cgi-bin/koha/svc/members/search
09:42 magnuse ah yes, the "borrowernumber" key in the json has been translated
10:11 magnuse thanks for playing ball oha!
10:11 magnuse bug 18162
10:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't translate JSON keys
10:15 tt we are getting an error in acquisitions
10:15 tt with latest version of koha
10:15 tt using acquisitions
10:16 tt if we add more than 4 digit value in acquisitions it delete 3 digits and keep only one
10:18 tt is there any library using acq
10:26 drojf @wunder sxf
10:26 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 6.0Â°C (11:20 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0Â°C. Windchill: 3.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling).
10:38 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
10:38 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃƒ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 11.4Â°C (11:33 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 6.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
10:39 drojf wow warm
10:39 drojf must be all the weird fasnet people running around
10:40 eythian @wunder ams
10:40 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0Â°C (11:25 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling).
10:40 eythian I think huginn is only telling part of the story
10:41 eythian half the trains aren't running due to the weather today
10:41 drojf because of its mild quality?
10:41 eythian not enough leaves on the track!
10:42 drojf lol
10:49 LibraryClaire it's warm and almost clear skies today. Most bizarre
10:50 LibraryClaire Apparently also FÃ¶hn
10:57 cait hmpf
11:02 kivilahtio https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Library_opening_hours_and_term_loans_RFC
11:02 kivilahtio Anybody know anything about library opening hours?
11:02 kivilahtio I need to imlement a way to save the opening hours to Koha, and specify what type of opening hours they are?
11:03 kivilahtio Specifically we need to specify the opening hours for self-service period
11:03 kivilahtio but in addition it would be handy to specify the opening hours when library staff is available separately
11:03 kivilahtio and maybe the opening hours used to calculate overdues
11:05 kivilahtio we would use the opening hours to find out if the users are allowed in to the sel-service library
11:24 kivilahtio Bug 59888 is interesting!
11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=59888 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
11:24 kivilahtio Bug 17015 is interesting!
11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , New Koha Calendar
11:53 drojf Joubu: around?
11:57 drojf @later tell tcohen what version of Catmandu::MARC / Catmandu::Importer::MARC do you use on kohadevbox with ES 5.x? also cpan'd?
11:57 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:19 druthb good morning, #koha.
12:24 francharb hello all
12:35 drojf alright, i got a working koha + elasticsearch installed with packages only
12:35 drojf that only took like five million hours
12:36 druthb lol
12:36 drojf tcohen: nevermind the @later message
12:36 drojf now somebody draw a map of the gazillion packages i built during the process
12:37 eythian drojf: yeah, probably worth scripting or something so you have a sorta documented reference.
12:37 eythian hi oleopard
12:38 tcohen morning
12:38 oleonard Hi
12:38 magnuse drojf++
12:38 magnuse oleopard!
12:40 druthb drojf++ # Navigating the Labyrinth.
12:41 drojf it is only navigating if you find the way back out :D
12:42 eythian you are in a maze of twisty, turny packages, all alike.
12:52 LibraryClaire wahanui is still missing
12:55 oleonard wahanui was eaten by a grue
13:01 druthb how very gruesome.
13:02 LibraryClaire oh no, not the grue!
13:03 cait wahanui?
13:03 * cait is so sad
13:04 eythian wahanui was warned. It was dark in there.
13:52 kidclamp drojf++
13:52 kidclamp morning all
13:52 LibraryClaire moin kidclamp
13:53 * kidclamp waves
13:53 kidclamp already need more coffe
13:53 kidclamp and some extra e
13:54 * LibraryClaire is trying not to have a nap
13:54 * LibraryClaire wonders if cait would notice...
13:54 drojf she would if she wasn't taking a nap
13:54 kidclamp maybe don't ping her next time :-D
13:55 LibraryClaire :D
14:02 cait what?
14:02 cait *jumps up*
14:02 cait oh...
14:58 LibraryClaire laters #koha
15:07 cait hm is there a reason serialsupdate is not in the debian cronjobs?
15:07 cait we are looking into activating it
15:11 eythian cait: the answer is usually that no one has thought to add it :)
15:13 cait i was hoping for that one
15:14 cait not the: we are highly suspicious of it
15:41 tcohen kivilahtio: you really made complex dependencies for the api-key code
15:43 kivilahtio tcohen: ?
15:43 kivilahtio just rip it off and write whatever tests you want :)
15:43 kivilahtio tcohen: the stuff in bugzilla is stale
15:43 kivilahtio tcohen: no point in wallowing over it
15:43 tcohen the dependency on PermissionManager
15:43 kivilahtio tcohen: we are porting it to newest master
15:43 tcohen ok
15:43 kivilahtio tcohen: gotta go home wife has a important meeting and I must look after the kid
15:44 tcohen cya
15:50 kchris in kohadevbox, "koha-* scripts" keeps failing
15:51 kchris "replace koha-* scripts"
15:52 kchris mtompset has an issue created about this.
15:53 kchris Anyone with experience fixing this?
15:54 kchris I've tried moving the task lower in the koha.yml file.
15:54 kchris (on the host)
15:54 kchris But it still fails.
15:57 tcohen kchris: comment it out
15:57 tcohen until we fix it
15:57 kchris ok, I'll give that a try.
15:58 tcohen are you cloning the koha repo on each vagrant up?
15:58 tcohen or are you using SYNC_REPO as you should?
15:58 kchris I'm cloning on each vagrant up.
15:58 kchris I usually halt and restart.
15:59 kchris This is on a Windows host.
15:59 kchris And I haven't had SYNC_REPO working properly.
16:03 drojf any thoughts on bug 18137 ? is this consensus or a solo attempt
16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs Signoff , REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI
16:03 reiveune bye
16:04 drojf there are more and more bugs popping up with dependencies unavailable in debian. i don't oppose building stuff, but i do not proactively start maintaining the packages of a hundred perl modules
16:04 drojf because they _might_ be used in koha one day
16:06 tcohen drojf: the Swagger standard has been renamed into OpenAPI and got some changes
16:06 tcohen moving towards it is pretty simple, and a good move for our project
16:07 tcohen the only blocker would be dependencies, actually
16:07 tcohen kchris: having SYNC_REPO set means 1.x GB less of downloads
16:07 drojf ah, so it is not actually moving to something else, just following their changes?
16:08 tcohen exactly
16:08 tcohen Swagger2 evolution is OpenAPI
16:08 tcohen a rename with small changes
16:08 drojf ok that seems like an obvious thing to do then
16:08 tcohen and the plugin got renamed and added those small changes
16:08 drojf thanks
16:09 cait Apache hates me :(
16:09 eythian that's probably not true.
16:09 eythian I bet it's just ambivalent.
16:09 drojf apache doed not care about anyone
16:10 drojf does
16:10 kchris tcohen: for SYNC_REPO to work, I need to a clone on my host.
16:10 kchris But I kept having issues with rsync
16:10 tcohen exactly
16:10 tcohen it doesn't use rsync
16:10 tcohen it should use the native virtualbox sharing thing
16:11 kchris okay. somehow, I wasn't able to mount the share on my host.
16:28 datadoctor Hi everyone! I am wondering who is working on Elastic Search implementation. We have been having some trouble getting it working. We can index, but had access errors on the localhost, like "elasticsearch blck not activated," even though the block appears to initialize in the koha.conf
16:31 datadoctor I wondered who is running elasticsearch successfully?
16:32 cait it's still experimental
16:32 cait not sure if there is anyone using it production sof ar
16:32 kidclamp do you reload apache after adding the block?
16:40 datadoctor good question - I can try restarting apache
16:42 Joubu hum it's more memcached that needs to be restarted
16:42 Joubu config is cached, when you change it, you need to restart memcached
16:43 Joubu and then plack as well btw
16:56 datadoctor Thanks @Joubu I believe that could be the problem. Memcached is definitely part of the issue, didn't think of plack - I will restart both.
17:00 datadoctor Restarting the memcached and the plack has resolved the error,a nd we can search the catalog using elasticsearch. Thanks for the advice! My co-worker asked, "Would it be better to run elasticsearch without the memcached and the plack?"
17:01 datadoctor I guess that would eliminate the speed gains from plack.
17:01 datadoctor Thanks again for the advice on elasticsearch! It's working!
17:01 drojf not using plack would almost certainly do that
17:03 datadoctor Would you say that Koha has an elasticsearch stack: memcached, plack and elasticsearch? They are all working together to improve search results and response time?
17:06 drojf they are independent things and they all have their benefits
17:24 drojf bye #koha
19:04 tcohen can anyone take a look at bug 17951?
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should create the template cache dir and configure it in koha-conf.xml
20:22 * kidclamp clamp clamp clamp
20:44 * cait waves at kidclamp and hides
20:49 kidclamp heh, I am not <caitclamp> that guy is scary
20:54 cait true true
21:07 barton O #Koha my #Koha!
21:07 barton (appologies to Walt Whitman)
21:09 barton I just realized that I don't have nearly the understanding of how facets work as I thought I did...
21:09 AntiKidClamp barton, what do you mean?
21:11 barton Well, in the back of my head, I was thinking that they used the zebra indexes -- even though my forebrain knows that the site in question has zebra facets disabled.
21:11 * andreashm waves
21:11 barton hi andreashm!
21:12 barton ... so now I realize that I have no mental model for how facets are built.
21:12 CrispyBran ah. That's beyond me. I always thought facets were built by scraping, wishfull thinking, and a little bit o magic.
21:14 barton CrispyBran: I suspect that you're right, and that all of that is called 'C4/Search.pm'
21:14 CrispyBran :)
21:14 andreashm hi barton
21:14 andreashm and others
21:15 * CrispyBran appreciates being an "other"
21:15 barton ^^ appolgies and mad props to the authors of C4/Search.pm.
21:19 cait heh
21:23 andreashm You're welcome CrispyBran
21:23 andreashm =)
21:51 CrispyBran Anyone know if there is a setting to hide items that are not holdable when placing item specific holds in the OPAC?
22:01 andreashm anyone know of any easy sign-offs I could look at? I'm going to travel a bit, and would like to do some testing on the flight if possible (that a big IF though with two kids).
22:01 andreashm no acq stuff though, since I've hardly looked at that module. =)
22:07 cait hm
22:07 cait i will take a look at hte list
22:07 cait 18150 holds
22:08 cait 18121 - notices change
22:08 cait 15738 - fines
22:09 cait 4460 covers
22:09 cait 18125 circ rules
22:09 cait 17853 - marc :)
22:09 cait 17290 - terminology
22:10 cait 17946 serials
22:10 cait ? :)
22:11 andreashm thanks cait!
22:11 cait i am sure there are more
22:11 cait it's a pretty big queue currently
22:11 andreashm I'll see what I can do. IF I get the chance. =)
22:11 cait an opinoin on 16421 might be good too
22:12 andreashm that one looks interesting
22:12 cait how long is the flight? :)
22:13 andreashm 11 h 30 min!
22:13 andreashm gaaah.... =)
22:14 andreashm 16421 doesn't apply for me
22:15 CrispyBran 16421 is a bit old. Probably need to ask them to rebase?
22:17 CrispyBran Anyone know if any modals are in use in 3.22?
22:18 andreashm CrispyBran: yeah, probably. Changed the status in Bugzilla to notify the peeps.
22:19 andreashm Ok, time for bed before the long flight. See ya!
22:19 andreashm cait++