Time  Nick            Message
06:07 mtompset        Gave a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
06:13 drojf           hi #koha
06:25 cait            @wunder Konstanz
06:25 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 6.0°C (7:23 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
07:07 * magnuse       waves
07:07 magnuse         @wunder enbo
07:07 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 981 hPa (Steady).
07:08 yyy             urgent help needed
07:08 yyy             we are using acquisitions module when i received book of amount say 9240 after clicking on finish receiving
07:08 yyy             it only shows 9 as spent
07:09 yyy             what would be going wrong frm my side
07:09 yyy             can someone quickly help
07:10 magnuse         yyy: i know very little about the acquisitions module, but which version are you on?
07:10 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:10 magnuse         guten moregen BuchereiKlara
07:10 yyy             latest version
07:10 yyy             i tried to upgrade it as well to understand if any bug would be there is fixed
07:10 yyy             but no luck
07:10 yyy             i am stuck
07:10 magnuse         so 16.11.4?
07:11 yyy             is there any one who can suggest wht is wrong i am doing here
07:12 magnuse         it might be a bit early, europe is just starting to wake up
07:12 yyy             oh k
07:12 LibraryClaire   hei magnuse
07:13 yyy             will repeat question again later
07:14 drojf           @wunder sxf
07:14 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 6.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
07:23 magnuse         bonjour fridolin
07:25 fridolin        magnuse: LibraryClaire : bonjouuuuur
07:27 marcelr         hi #koha
07:27 LibraryClaire   salut fridolin
07:27 LibraryClaire   moin drojf
07:28 marcelr         hi LibraryClaire
07:28 LibraryClaire   hey marcelr :)
07:28 * LibraryClaire tries to catch up on hellos
07:28 marcelr         your doing a good job..
07:29 drojf           hi marcelr
07:29 marcelr         hi drojf
07:29 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
07:44 magnuse         weird, i have a 16.11.4 running on plack where trying to view holds on /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=x gives an error, but i can't reproduce it elsewhere
07:44 eythian_        @wunder ams
07:44 huginn          eythian_: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0°C (8:25 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling).
07:57 oha             o/ morning!
07:59 marcelr         o/
08:01 magnuse         o/
08:02 reiveune        hello
08:11 LibraryClaire   o/
08:14 * cait          waves
08:21 drojf           why does items.content in messaging work for some fields and not for others?
08:21 drojf           like, i get the item barcode, but i don't get the call number
08:21 drojf           or, i get the title, but not the author
08:30 magnuse         btw, my problem with showing reserves earlier was a data problem
09:01 cait            drojf: the itemscontnet is defined in the crnjob
09:02 cait            the fields it includes
09:02 cait            you can have one definition for overdues and one for advancednotices
09:02 cait            and we have the callnumber there - i think it should work
09:13 magnuse         if you search for a patron and find only one you are sent on to the page for that patron. anyone know where the js code that does the sending on lives?
09:16 cait            hm is it js?
09:16 magnuse         not sure, i just assume so
09:16 cait            i think i would look at the patron search routine first
09:17 magnuse         the problem i'm seing is that with swedish translation activated i am sent on to /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=undefined which does not work too well, of course
09:17 oha             what is stored in sessions? anything that should survive a restart?
09:17 oha             magnuse: "undefined" smell like js indeed :)
09:17 cait            hm could it be a template translation error?
09:18 magnuse         yup, i suspect so
09:18 magnuse         works in english
09:18 cait            hmm
09:18 magnuse         oops, it fails with norwegian translation too
09:19 magnuse         cait: feel like checking german?
09:19 magnuse         i'm on 16.05.09, btw
09:20 cait            don't have a current version one (
09:20 cait            i know it works in our 3.22
09:20 cait            i am failing to find the patron search routine in perl... even
09:23 marcelr         merge updates the bib records, yes
09:23 oha             koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/member.tt line 214 cait
09:24 oha             cait: looking at it, the data sent back from the ajax call miss the borrowernumber
09:24 oha             sorry, it was for magnuse
09:32 magnuse         oha: yeah, something goes amiss there, but what? and why only for translations?
09:33 oha             I don't know how to change the language, i wonder if I should have done something during install time. but if i were you i would inspect the network traffic for a case where you get 2+ entries, and check the json response
09:34 oha             it's
09:42 magnuse         ah yes, the "borrowernumber" key in the json has been translated
10:11 magnuse         thanks for playing ball oha!
10:11 magnuse         bug 18162
10:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't translate JSON keys
10:15 tt              we are getting an error in acquisitions
10:15 tt              with latest version of koha
10:15 tt              using acquisitions
10:16 tt              if we add more than 4 digit value in acquisitions it delete 3 digits and keep only one
10:18 tt              is there any library using acq
10:26 drojf           @wunder sxf
10:26 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 6.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling).
10:38 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
10:38 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 11.4°C (11:33 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
10:39 drojf           wow warm
10:39 drojf           must be all the weird fasnet people running around
10:40 eythian         @wunder ams
10:40 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0°C (11:25 AM CET on February 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling).
10:40 eythian         I think huginn is only telling part of the story
10:41 eythian         half the trains aren't running due to the weather today
10:41 drojf           because of its mild quality?
10:41 eythian         not enough leaves on the track!
10:42 drojf           lol
10:49 LibraryClaire   it's warm and almost clear skies today. Most bizarre
10:50 LibraryClaire   Apparently also Föhn
10:57 cait            hmpf
11:02 kivilahtio      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Library_opening_hours_and_term_loans_RFC
11:02 kivilahtio      Anybody know anything about library opening hours?
11:02 kivilahtio      I need to imlement a way to save the opening hours to Koha, and specify what type of opening hours they are?
11:03 kivilahtio      Specifically we need to specify the opening hours for self-service period
11:03 kivilahtio      but in addition it would be handy to specify the opening hours when library staff is available separately
11:03 kivilahtio      and maybe the opening hours used to calculate overdues
11:05 kivilahtio      we would use the opening hours to find out if the users are allowed in to the sel-service library
11:24 kivilahtio      Bug 59888 is interesting!
11:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=59888 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
11:24 kivilahtio      Bug 17015 is interesting!
11:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , New Koha Calendar
11:53 drojf           Joubu: around?
11:57 drojf           @later tell tcohen what version of Catmandu::MARC / Catmandu::Importer::MARC do you use on kohadevbox with ES 5.x? also cpan'd?
11:57 huginn          drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:19 druthb          good morning, #koha.
12:24 francharb       hello all
12:35 drojf           alright, i got a working koha + elasticsearch installed with packages only
12:35 drojf           that only took like five million hours
12:36 druthb          lol
12:36 drojf           tcohen: nevermind the @later message
12:36 drojf           now somebody draw a map of the gazillion packages i built during the process
12:37 eythian         drojf: yeah, probably worth scripting or something so you have a sorta documented reference.
12:37 eythian         hi oleopard
12:38 tcohen          morning
12:38 oleonard        Hi
12:38 magnuse         drojf++
12:38 magnuse         oleopard!
12:40 druthb          drojf++   # Navigating the Labyrinth.
12:41 drojf           it is only navigating if you find the way back out :D
12:42 eythian         you are in a maze of twisty, turny packages, all alike.
12:52 LibraryClaire   wahanui is still missing
12:55 oleonard        wahanui was eaten by a grue
13:01 druthb          how very gruesome.
13:02 LibraryClaire   oh no, not the grue!
13:03 cait            wahanui?
13:03 * cait          is so sad
13:04 eythian         wahanui was warned. It was dark in there.
13:52 kidclamp        drojf++
13:52 kidclamp        morning all
13:52 LibraryClaire   moin kidclamp
13:53 * kidclamp      waves
13:53 kidclamp        already need more coffe
13:53 kidclamp        and some extra e
13:54 * LibraryClaire is trying not to have a nap
13:54 * LibraryClaire wonders if cait would notice...
13:54 drojf           she would if she wasn't taking a nap
13:54 kidclamp        maybe don't ping her next time :-D
13:55 LibraryClaire   :D
14:02 cait            what?
14:02 cait            *jumps up*
14:02 cait            oh...
14:58 LibraryClaire   laters #koha
15:07 cait            hm is there a reason serialsupdate is not in the debian cronjobs?
15:07 cait            we are looking into activating it
15:11 eythian         cait: the answer is usually that no one has thought to add it :)
15:13 cait            i was hoping for that one
15:14 cait            not the: we are highly suspicious of it
15:41 tcohen          kivilahtio: you really made complex dependencies for the api-key code
15:43 kivilahtio      tcohen: ?
15:43 kivilahtio      just rip it off and write whatever tests you want :)
15:43 kivilahtio      tcohen: the stuff in bugzilla is stale
15:43 kivilahtio      tcohen: no point in wallowing over it
15:43 tcohen          the dependency on PermissionManager
15:43 kivilahtio      tcohen: we are porting it to newest master
15:43 tcohen          ok
15:43 kivilahtio      tcohen: gotta go home wife has a important meeting and I must look after the kid
15:44 tcohen          cya
15:50 kchris          in kohadevbox,  "koha-* scripts" keeps failing
15:51 kchris          "replace  koha-* scripts"
15:52 kchris          mtompset has an issue created about this.
15:53 kchris          Anyone with experience fixing this?
15:54 kchris          I've tried moving the task lower in the koha.yml file.
15:54 kchris          (on the host)
15:54 kchris          But it still fails.
15:57 tcohen          kchris: comment it out
15:57 tcohen          until we fix it
15:57 kchris          ok, I'll give that a try.
15:58 tcohen          are you cloning the koha repo on each vagrant up?
15:58 tcohen          or are you using SYNC_REPO as you should?
15:58 kchris          I'm cloning on each vagrant up.
15:58 kchris          I usually halt and restart.
15:59 kchris          This is on a Windows host.
15:59 kchris          And I haven't had SYNC_REPO working properly.
16:03 drojf           any thoughts on bug 18137 ? is this consensus or a solo attempt
16:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs Signoff , REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI
16:03 reiveune        bye
16:04 drojf           there are more and more bugs popping up with dependencies unavailable in debian. i don't oppose building stuff, but i do not proactively start maintaining the packages of a hundred perl modules
16:04 drojf           because they _might_ be used in koha one day
16:06 tcohen          drojf: the Swagger standard has been renamed into OpenAPI and got some changes
16:06 tcohen          moving towards it is pretty simple, and a good move for our project
16:07 tcohen          the only blocker would be dependencies, actually
16:07 tcohen          kchris: having SYNC_REPO set means 1.x GB less of downloads
16:07 drojf           ah, so it is not actually moving to something else, just following their changes?
16:08 tcohen          exactly
16:08 tcohen          Swagger2 evolution is OpenAPI
16:08 tcohen          a rename with small changes
16:08 drojf           ok that seems like an obvious thing to do then
16:08 tcohen          and the plugin got renamed and added those small changes
16:08 drojf           thanks
16:09 cait            Apache hates me :(
16:09 eythian         that's probably not true.
16:09 eythian         I bet it's just ambivalent.
16:09 drojf           apache doed not care about anyone
16:10 drojf           does
16:10 kchris          tcohen: for SYNC_REPO to work, I need to a clone on my host.
16:10 kchris          But I kept having issues with rsync
16:10 tcohen          exactly
16:10 tcohen          it doesn't use rsync
16:10 tcohen          it should use the native virtualbox sharing thing
16:11 kchris          okay. somehow, I wasn't able to mount the share on my host.
16:28 datadoctor      Hi everyone! I am wondering who is working on Elastic Search implementation. We have been having some trouble getting it working. We can index, but had access errors on the localhost, like "elasticsearch blck not activated," even though the block appears to initialize in the koha.conf
16:31 datadoctor      I wondered who is running elasticsearch successfully?
16:32 cait            it's still experimental
16:32 cait            not sure if there is anyone using it production sof ar
16:32 kidclamp        do you reload apache after adding the block?
16:40 datadoctor      good question - I can try restarting apache
16:42 Joubu           hum it's more memcached that needs to be restarted
16:42 Joubu           config is cached, when you change it, you need to restart memcached
16:43 Joubu           and then plack as well btw
16:56 datadoctor      Thanks @Joubu I believe that could be the problem. Memcached is definitely part of the issue, didn't think of plack - I will restart both.
17:00 datadoctor      Restarting the memcached and the plack has resolved the error,a nd we can search the catalog using elasticsearch. Thanks for the advice! My co-worker asked, "Would it be better to run elasticsearch without the memcached and the plack?"
17:01 datadoctor      I guess that would eliminate the speed gains from plack.
17:01 datadoctor      Thanks again for the advice on elasticsearch! It's working!
17:01 drojf           not using plack would almost certainly do that
17:03 datadoctor      Would you say that Koha has an elasticsearch stack: memcached, plack and elasticsearch? They are all working together to improve search results and response time?
17:06 drojf           they are independent things and they all have their benefits
17:24 drojf           bye #koha
19:04 tcohen          can anyone take a look at bug 17951?
19:04 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17951 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should create the template cache dir and configure it in koha-conf.xml
20:22 * kidclamp      clamp clamp clamp
20:44 * cait          waves at kidclamp and hides
20:49 kidclamp        heh, I am not <caitclamp> that guy is scary
20:54 cait            true true
21:07 barton          O #Koha my #Koha!
21:07 barton          (appologies to Walt Whitman)
21:09 barton          I just realized that I don't have nearly the understanding of how facets work as I thought I did...
21:09 AntiKidClamp    barton, what do you mean?
21:11 barton          Well, in the back of my head, I was thinking that they used the zebra indexes -- even though my forebrain knows that the site in question has zebra facets disabled.
21:11 * andreashm     waves
21:11 barton          hi andreashm!
21:12 barton          ... so now I realize that I have no mental model for how facets are built.
21:12 CrispyBran      ah.  That's beyond me.  I always thought facets were built by scraping, wishfull thinking, and a little bit o magic.
21:14 barton          CrispyBran: I suspect that you're right, and that all of that is called 'C4/Search.pm'
21:14 CrispyBran      :)
21:14 andreashm       hi barton
21:14 andreashm       and others
21:15 * CrispyBran    appreciates being an "other"
21:15 barton          ^^ appolgies and mad props to the authors of C4/Search.pm.
21:19 cait            heh
21:23 andreashm       You're welcome CrispyBran
21:23 andreashm       =)
21:51 CrispyBran      Anyone know if there is a setting to hide items that are not holdable when placing item specific holds in the OPAC?
22:01 andreashm       anyone know of any easy sign-offs I could look at? I'm going to travel a bit, and would like to do some testing on the flight if possible (that a big IF though with two kids).
22:01 andreashm       no acq stuff though, since I've hardly looked at that module. =)
22:07 cait            hm
22:07 cait            i will take a look at hte list
22:07 cait            18150 holds
22:08 cait            18121 - notices change
22:08 cait            15738 - fines
22:09 cait            4460 covers
22:09 cait            18125 circ rules
22:09 cait            17853 - marc :)
22:09 cait            17290 - terminology
22:10 cait            17946 serials
22:10 cait            ? :)
22:11 andreashm       thanks cait!
22:11 cait            i am sure there are more
22:11 cait            it's a pretty big queue currently
22:11 andreashm       I'll see what I can do. IF I get the chance. =)
22:11 cait            an opinoin on 16421 might be good too
22:12 andreashm       that one looks interesting
22:12 cait            how long is the flight? :)
22:13 andreashm       11 h 30 min!
22:13 andreashm       gaaah.... =)
22:14 andreashm       16421 doesn't apply for me
22:15 CrispyBran      16421 is a bit old.  Probably need to ask them to rebase?
22:17 CrispyBran      Anyone know if any modals are in use in 3.22?
22:18 andreashm       CrispyBran: yeah, probably. Changed the status in Bugzilla to notify the peeps.
22:19 andreashm       Ok, time for bed before the long flight. See ya!
22:19 andreashm       cait++