Time Nick Message 06:06 drojf hi #koha 06:39 * magnuse waves 06:39 magnuse moin drojf and josef_moravec 06:40 josef_moravec hello magnuse 06:52 magnuse wow, poor Christchurch 07:06 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:08 drojf hi LibraryClaire 07:08 drojf hei magnuse 07:10 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara und wizzycray 07:10 LibraryClaire moin drojf 07:10 magnuse @wunder enbo 07:10 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 07:10 magnuse \o/ 07:11 LibraryClaire morgen magnuse 07:11 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:11 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 0.3°C (7:43 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising). 07:11 LibraryClaire cloudy = fog I can barely see through 07:15 magnuse low hanging clouds 07:40 alex_a bonjour koha 07:40 LibraryClaire hey alex_a 07:40 alex_a LibraryClaire: \o 07:41 LibraryClaire o/ 07:58 marcelr hi #koha 07:58 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 07:58 marcelr :) 07:59 reiveune hello 07:59 marcelr bonjour reiveune 08:05 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:05 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -3.6°C (8:43 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 08:11 eythian @wunder arena, amsterdam 08:11 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 08:11 eythian hmm 08:11 eythian @wunder bijlmer, amsterdam 08:11 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found 08:12 eythian you go somewhere else for one day, and huginn forgets all about you. 08:27 LibraryClaire pretty sure the fog is getting thicker 08:27 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 08:27 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 1.1°C (9:16 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady). 08:27 drojf it's just light freezing 08:27 LibraryClaire light freezing fog is my favourite 08:27 drojf better than dark freezing fog 08:28 LibraryClaire it's quite oppressive 08:30 eythian @wunder ams 08:30 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 6.0°C (9:25 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 08:31 eythian not as nice today as it was yesterday, alas 08:41 * cait waves 08:55 marcelr hi cait 08:56 marcelr cait: i will check the merge for 16.11 today 08:56 cait thx 08:56 cait haven't heard from bernardo yet, hope to announce string freeze soon 09:03 d_antonakis can I ask sth regarding Pootle? 09:03 d_antonakis Is there a way to change the user permissions in order to prevent other users to overwritte their translations strings? 09:04 d_antonakis Moreover, who knows the procedure to add terminilogy in a specific language? 09:05 cait d_antonakis: you can have different permissions - one of them is to allow uploads - is that what you mean? 09:05 cait best to get in contact with the translation manager 09:05 cait he will know 09:07 d_antonakis it's not related to uploads. Just about overwritting other user strings in Pootle or to be an alert when a string is overwritten by someone else 09:07 d_antonakis ok cait! ty! 09:20 Joubu Is someone playing on a devbox around? 09:33 josef_moravec Joubu: yep 09:33 kivilahtio bag 09:34 Joubu josef_moravec: could you try master + searchengine=elastic + full reindex + search? 09:34 Joubu you need to make sure the ES mappings are correctly set by hitting the hidden url 09:35 Joubu /admin/searchengine/elasticsearch/mappings.pl?op=reset&i_know_what_i_am_doing=1 09:35 Joubu josef_moravec: because I do not get any results on Jessie 09:35 Joubu and I do not know if it comes from me or if it is a general issue 09:38 josef_moravec Joubu: now trying, will see 09:41 AndrewIsh Gooood morning #koha 09:41 AndrewIsh @wunder machynlleth 09:41 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, Machynlleth, United Kingdom is 8.8°C (9:40 AM GMT on February 16, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling). 09:42 AndrewIsh I've just been checking the developer docs. What's the situation with creating a UI with functionality that's dependent on JS. Is it necessary to also provide a mechanism that isn't dependent on JS? 09:42 Joubu AndrewIsh: for the OPAC, I think so yes 09:43 Joubu for the intranet, no JS is mandatory 09:43 AndrewIsh Joubu: That was my impression too, so I'm glad you're of the same opinion! :) Thanks 09:43 Joubu comma is misplaced 09:43 AndrewIsh lol, amusing how that sentence is changed with a misplaced comma :) 09:51 josef_moravec Joubu: just provisioned devbox with elastic 1.7, and it is searching ok on elastic 09:51 Joubu josef_moravec: sorry, it was for 5.1 09:51 josef_moravec on biblio index, authorities not 09:52 josef_moravec I'll update, it should be easy with devbox ;) 10:07 stuart greetings all from New Zealand 10:08 stuart I am hoping to find a suggestion on a problem I have, if anyone is around. 10:08 josef_moravec hello stuart 10:09 josef_moravec try it ;) 10:09 stuart hello :) 10:09 stuart well, I have set up a koha server for a local primary school, and it is working very well. 10:09 stuart however, I need to setup z39.50 access to SCIS, an australian data source for which they have a login. 10:10 stuart so I set up the server configuration, as supplied 10:10 stuart however, when I search for a book, instead of a correct looking entry comping back (for example as I get from library of commerce) 10:11 stuart I get a yellow box saying 'SCIS record 1: 238' 10:11 stuart so, I assume I am missing a vital configuration step :/ 10:12 stuart I am quite sure it is talking to the server and authenticating (as I got other faults before I had those parameters correct) 10:13 josef_moravec could you please send a screenshot? I am not sure what kind of "yellow box" od you mean... 10:13 josef_moravec also, are they providing data in MARC21, or UNIMARC? 10:14 stuart to be slightly more correct, I get that yellow horizontal box, AND I get a gray box with 'nothing found' 10:15 stuart unfortunately they do not specify their MARC version. 10:15 stuart what is the easiest way to send a screenshot? 10:15 josef_moravec in firefox use screengrab extension 10:16 stuart I can make one easily, I meant how to send it to you. 10:16 josef_moravec try something from this list: https://www.google.cz/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=image+sharing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=A3ylWI_aJ47EXtP3mfgL 10:19 stuart working on it now.. 10:20 stuart https://therugby.net/static/koha1.png 10:20 stuart that is the result of a search 10:21 stuart I believe the item is found, as the result for a random ISBN is just the normal not found box. 10:22 stuart ah, and your suggestion has solved it for me josef! 10:22 stuart I was randomly trying different setups, and MARC21/USMARC works. 10:23 stuart much appreciated. 10:36 * kidclamp waves 10:39 drojf hi kidclamp 10:40 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 10:41 kidclamp hi drojf LibraryClaire 10:42 kidclamp LibraryClaire, I just found out I got in the lottery for a 10 mile race - now I actually have to run like for serious 10:43 LibraryClaire haha :D 10:43 LibraryClaire kidclamp: those lotterys are dangerous... 10:44 LibraryClaire kidclamp: also congrats, when is it? ;) 10:44 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:44 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 2.7°C (11:18 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 10:45 drojf my phone says 8° 10:45 drojf hmm 10:45 drojf weather conspiracy 10:45 kidclamp May 7th 10:45 LibraryClaire oh that's a good amount of time still 10:46 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 10:46 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (11:18 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Falling). 10:46 drojf @wunder sxf 10:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 8.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 10:46 drojf i guess berlin, berlin, germany is a different berlin then 10:46 LibraryClaire not clear... still fog 10:46 drojf but nice i saw before going out in winter boots 10:47 drojf lügenwetter 10:58 eythian luging in the wet? 10:59 LibraryClaire sounds like a bad idea 11:05 marcelr Joubu: any objections to my second patch on 18124; if not, i will change the calls to { session_id => ... } 11:17 Joubu josef_moravec: ok so for the record, it works if you have a very fresh devbox ( Issue #172: Fix Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch name 11:17 Joubu ) 11:17 marcelr Joubu 11:18 Joubu marcelr: yep, reading it :) 11:18 marcelr thx 11:18 marcelr i would move the changed calls to a third patch 11:18 Joubu yyD is definitely a vim command typo :) 11:18 marcelr yyG 11:18 marcelr yank to the end 11:21 josef_moravec Joubu: i have elastic 5.1 now 11:21 josef_moravec I can index and search biblios 11:22 josef_moravec but can't reproduce bug 18130 11:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18130 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , ES - Cannot reindex given biblionumbers 11:22 josef_moravec But i have problem searching authorities, did you noticed it? 11:32 Joubu josef_moravec: indeed, with the correct module I do not recreate either 18130 11:33 josef_moravec And is authority searching working for you? Maybe I have bad mapping, bud I did try the magic URL you sent and it's still not working.. 11:37 kidclamp does it work if you set the sorting to none josef_moravec? 11:41 josef_moravec kidclamp: it does not return ISE, but still not searching - "no results found" 11:42 josef_moravec an sometimes still ISE: Invalid marclist field provided: all at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/QueryBuilder.pm line 422. 11:42 josef_moravec Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::QueryBuilder::build_authorities_query_compat(Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::QueryBuilder=HASH(0x13a00288), ARRAY(0x139f4638), ARRAY(0x139e9680), ARRAY(0x13a36048), ARRAY(0x139e9770), ARRAY(0x13a25518), "", "") called at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/authorities/authorities-home.pl line 86 11:43 kidclamp yeah, authority searching needs some attention 11:43 Joubu same for me 11:43 Joubu "Fielddata is disabled on text fields by default" 11:44 kidclamp Joubu - to see holdingbranch facet use the DisplayLibraryFacets 11:44 kidclamp system preference 11:44 wahanui i guess system preference is not the way to do it. 11:44 Joubu kidclamp: yes, it is set to "both" 11:44 Joubu I tried both and holdingbranch 11:44 kidclamp erk 11:45 kidclamp worked for me :/ 11:45 Joubu ok forget that 11:45 kidclamp I forgot that 11:45 Joubu mappings were not reset 11:48 eythian kidclamp: you're slipping, if you keep making mistakes like that people will know that you are really wahanui 11:49 Joubu :) 11:50 Joubu kidclamp: something else, on bug 17169 I am expecting to see the lib, not the code 11:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add facets for ccode and language to elasticsearch 11:50 kidclamp sorry eythian, I don't know 11:50 eythian wahanui: kidclamp is an infobot. 11:50 wahanui ...but kidclamp is rockin the stache|<reply>kidclamp is clamping kids. Poor kids.... 11:50 kidclamp Joubu, indeed - see "work to be done" 11:50 eythian wahanui: kidclamp is also an infobot. 11:50 wahanui okay, eythian. 11:51 * kidclamp clamp clamp clamp 11:51 * Joubu should read commit messages until the end.. 11:52 kidclamp now that we upgraded ES I shoudl follow up there 11:53 Joubu kidclamp: commented on the bug, but I do not think it can be push if it displays code 11:53 kidclamp agreed - that was just me doing to work to figure out 'how' to add a facet 12:02 tcohen morning 12:02 marcelr hi tcohen 12:03 tcohen hey marcelr 12:03 tcohen do u remember which release got your Upload.pm replaced? 12:03 marcelr remember :) 12:04 marcelr not sure 12:04 marcelr but this release has Uploader.pm 12:05 tcohen it is in master, and not in 16.11 i think 12:05 tcohen thanks 12:05 tcohen nice job btw 12:05 marcelr yes 12:05 marcelr oops 12:06 marcelr tcohen: can you qa the followup for the debian scripts? 12:06 marcelr you're the expert 12:06 tcohen good idea 12:06 tcohen in about an hour I can 12:06 marcelr that would be fantastic indeed 12:12 Joubu I started QAing it 2 days ago, I can continue... 12:14 marcelr Joubu: bug 16749 12:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16749 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Additional fixes for debian scripts 12:14 marcelr i dont mind who does the qa, as long as some one does 12:14 marcelr :) 12:19 francharb good moring all 12:20 francharb good morning all 12:20 LibraryClaire hi francharb 12:20 Joubu marcelr: Given the number of patches from me waiting for QA, I'd prefer other QAers to focus on them ;) 12:20 Joubu Salut francharb! 12:21 francharb 0/ LibraryClaire Joubu 12:21 marcelr Joubu: i will qa some patches from you tomorrow. but still testing the security patch 12:22 marcelr ping tcohen 12:22 marcelr he left? 12:24 drojf fyi: master packages will be broken until 16749 is pushed 12:26 marcelr drojf: i have hope now that Joubu or tcohen is looking today 12:32 Joubu baptiste: There is something wrong on bug 15408 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, baptiste.wojtkowski, Failed QA , Timestamp not updated when you duplicate a budget 12:33 Joubu baptiste: you obsoleted the other patches 12:37 marcelr josef_moravec: is your index up again? 12:38 marcelr for a retry of the DelAuthority bug? 12:38 josef_moravec I have new devbox I'll try ;) 12:38 marcelr great 12:39 josef_moravec marcelr: but probably tomorow, not today... 12:39 marcelr ok 12:41 magnuse oleonard! druthb! 12:41 oleonard Hi 12:42 druthb magnuse! oleonard! 12:51 Joubu marcelr: koha-translate: I think we should make sure the instance exists (calling is_instance) 13:02 marcelr Joubu: looks good to me 13:03 oleonard barton: You added this section to the SQL reports library? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Links 13:03 Joubu marcelr: just let a comment about something else, could you take a look? 13:04 barton oleonard: yes. 13:04 oleonard barton++ 13:04 oleonard Really useful 13:04 marcelr Joubu: where 13:05 Joubu marcelr: refresh, got a collision 13:05 Joubu with myself... 13:06 marcelr that may happen.. 13:06 LibraryClaire barton++ 13:09 marcelr Joubu: is dev_install the name of your instance? 13:10 Joubu nope 13:10 marcelr i thought so; whats the problem then? 13:10 magnuse barton++ 13:11 marcelr its a wrong instance name; you cannot find the kohaconf 13:11 tcohen hi Joubu 13:11 marcelr and the error shows you 13:11 marcelr more or less 13:11 Joubu marcelr: We should not get an error, before the patchset, there is not error 13:11 marcelr tcohen: Joubu is alreadu looking 13:11 tcohen alright! 13:11 Joubu just nothing happens, we should get the help 13:12 marcelr Joubu: we could add a test, but I thought it was not really usefuk 13:12 marcelr l 13:12 marcelr any more 13:12 barton look is you are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. 13:12 Joubu marcelr: "failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/sites/dev_install/koha-conf.xml"" is definitely confusing, especially because "dev_install" is not related to anything :) 13:12 Joubu unless the entry in the conf file 13:13 marcelr but dev_install comes from your command line 13:13 Joubu nope, my cmd line is `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra` 13:13 marcelr ok 13:13 marcelr thats more weird 13:14 Joubu marcelr: if you do not recreate, I can take a look 13:14 marcelr ill check this again 13:16 Joubu marcelr: from adjust_paths_dev_install, it calls run_safe_xmlstarlet $instancename dev_install 13:16 Joubu but $instancename is not defined, then pick 'dev_install' 13:17 marcelr hmm 13:17 marcelr yes 13:17 marcelr should add a check on instancename 13:18 marcelr stupid bash 13:36 marcelr Joubu: the followup does another is_instance, so could make your change in koha-translate duplicate 13:47 Joubu baptiste: if 15408 is now ready to be tested, you must switch the status to "needs signoff" to let people know that they can test it 13:47 Joubu baptiste: the commit messages of the patches must start with "Bug XXXXX: " 13:48 Joubu baptiste: A page to read and bookmark: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Submitting_A_Patch 13:53 Joubu marcelr: do you remember why you search for ^- ? 13:53 Joubu if echo $1 | egrep -q "^[^-]"; then 13:53 eythian Joubu: that searches for "not -" 13:53 marcelr yes two parameters in a row like -dev -something else 13:54 marcelr i expect an instance not to start with - 13:55 Joubu marcelr: just before that call there is 13:55 Joubu 274 if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then 13:55 Joubu 275 die "Error: dev parameter without instance" 13:55 marcelr ok it might be unneeded 13:55 eythian @wunder ams 13:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 9.0°C (2:25 PM CET on February 16, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 13:55 marcelr could have added preceding statement later or so 13:57 Joubu Those batch scripts are really hard to maintain... 13:59 marcelr bash is harder than perl 13:59 marcelr even be careful with bash and dash (sh) 14:03 Joubu marcelr: I have the feeling that we should die somewhere if $instancename is not an instance 14:03 Joubu every script does their own check 14:03 Joubu anyway, out of scope for this one 14:03 marcelr yeah but we should not fix every issue now 14:03 marcelr i have some more wishes :) 14:04 Joubu but the koha-translate double check for is_instance is needed 14:04 marcelr the hardcoded path to /usr/share/koha/bin is one of them.. 14:04 marcelr np let it stay 14:04 marcelr 2>0 14:10 magnuse the debian scripts must be getting pretty awesome now :-) 14:11 marcelr magnuse: all that trouble 14:12 marcelr Joubu++ 14:14 Joubu @later rangi Hi! Waiting for you on bug 17840 14:14 huginn Joubu: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 14:14 Joubu @later tell rangi Hi! Waiting for you on bug 17840 14:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:14 Joubu pff, always forget 14:34 baptiste Joubu, is ok, I think I have amended the involved commit messages and read your page, sorry for this fails 14:35 Joubu no worries, others will come :D 14:51 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.163 pasted "Joubu: this is my command" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/314 14:52 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.163 pasted "Joubu: this is my command" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/315 15:07 Joubu bug 17933 is a major I cannot QA 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17933 major, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , Internal software error when searching patron without birth date 15:08 Joubu bug 18111 must be pushed before the next stable releases 15:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18111 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Import default framework is broken 15:50 LibraryClaire laters #koha 16:02 reiveune bye 17:08 Gabor Hi, I would have a question... 17:10 gabpalko Hi, I would need some help... 17:16 gabpalko Does anyone know how can I reach authority records through any protocol? OAI PMH, REST does not seem to work, they only list bib records. 20:27 wizzycray hi 20:27 wahanui hey, wizzycray 20:27 wizzycray long shot, joubu about? 20:27 LibraryClaire hi wizzycray 20:27 wizzycray hallo :) 20:28 LibraryClaire I think he's away 20:28 wizzycray yeah I figured, it was a very long shot 22:33 CrispyBran Any programmers here I can bug for a moment? 22:34 wizzycray ah just ask if someone can answer they will :) 22:35 CrispyBran When a koha page loads, it uses variables to populate information on the screen. Is it possible to reference those variables from jquery? 22:36 dcook O_o 22:38 dcook CrispyBran: Could you clarify what you man by "it uses variabls to populate information on the screen"? 22:39 dcook @later tell tcohen Interesting. Honestly, I'm overloaded with work at the moment, so I don't have much in terms of commentary. 22:39 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 22:41 CrispyBran For example, member-password.pl places the firstname and surname on the screen in a couple places. I would like to grab the surname, but because this information is blended together, there is no reliable way to get the last name from those elements. So, I was wondering if there would be some other method to "get" the surname. Such as, are the template params used on that page accessable, or is gone by the time the page is produced? 22:43 CrispyBran 125 $template->param( 22:43 CrispyBran 126     othernames                 => $bor->{'othernames'}, 22:43 CrispyBran 127     surname                    => $bor->{'surname'}, 22:44 wizzycray You can use jquery with stuff that is in the DOM at the time that it runs 22:44 wizzycray (somebody please correct that if it's wrong) 22:44 CrispyBran And how do I know what is in the DOM? 22:45 wizzycray using the inspector in your browser 22:45 wizzycray or ctrl u 22:45 dcook CrispyBran: member-password.pl just generates a HTML page and sends that to your browser 22:46 dcook The browser parses that into a DOM structure 22:46 dcook The browser executes javascript/jquery, and that has access to the DOM contained in the browser 22:46 wizzycray ^ 22:47 wizzycray you can't access the template variables directly as far as I am aware. 22:47 wizzycray unless they are being passed to the DOM by themselves in a structure you can target 22:49 CrispyBran bummer. That's what I was afraid of. 22:49 CrispyBran Thanks 22:50 wizzycray of course you can teach Koha a new trick and make them available to you, but at that point you probably wouldn't be using jquery :) 22:51 CrispyBran Yeah, I am not ready to monkey with koha code 22:57 dcook CrispyBran: I haven't looked at the template, but you'd want to look at member-password.tt or whatever the equivalent is 22:58 dcook If it's like "<p>Firstname Surname</p>", you could change it to "<p><span id="member_firstname">Firstname</span> <span id="member_surname">Surname</span></p>" 22:59 dcook Then use jquery with a selector like "span#member_surname" 22:59 dcook Although at that point, I'd ask what you're trying to accomplish overall :p 22:59 CrispyBran yeah, monkeying with the files is not my thing just yet. 23:00 CrispyBran I was trying to use jquery to create a reset button for the password. But I can't get specific enough with patron information. 23:02 dcook A reset button for the password? 23:04 CrispyBran Yes. We base passwords off pieces of patron data. Patrons can change their passwords, but sometimes they forget, and we have to reset their password. I was trying to see if I could grab patron data and populate the password fields. But that isn't going to happen. 23:09 dcook I've been thinking a little about that. How some libraries will use parts of your address or phone number. 23:09 dcook I think a totally random password is probably better though :p 23:09 wizzycray CrispyBran, it won't happen with jquery for sure 23:09 CrispyBran yep 23:10 wizzycray yeah I am deeply skeptical of using any part of known data for a password 23:10 dcook ^ 23:10 wizzycray because someone could figure out your algorithm and boom they've got a login 23:10 wizzycray I know libraries do it, I'm here to tell you that they shouldn't. 23:10 CrispyBran Does koha have a "Forgot your password?" feature yet? 23:10 wizzycray yep 23:11 wizzycray since 16.05 at least. 23:11 wizzycray maybe 3.22 I can't remember 23:11 CrispyBran We're in 3.22 23:11 dcook I can't remember when it got in either, but I seem to recall it has 23:11 wizzycray it completely does 23:11 dcook I rolled my own years ago, but I'll be glad to replace it with the stock standard one 23:11 wizzycray it is absolutely there in the current and at least one version back 23:12 wizzycray maybe 2 23:12 wizzycray there will be a syspref for it 23:14 CrispyBran Yep...OpacResetPassword. Not in 3.22. 23:48 CrispyBran When creating a new account in Koha, does Koha generate a default username and password, or do staff have to enter that info? 23:50 dcook I think if you don't include them, it will generate a default username at least 23:50 dcook Not sure about the password