Time  Nick            Message
00:14 * dcook         sees eythian's earlier mentino
00:14 dcook           eythian: I...
01:21 wizzycray       they should be one and the same
01:21 wizzycray       gah
01:21 wizzycray       lol.
01:21 wizzycray       what an opener.
01:33 * Francesca     waves at wizzycray
01:33 Francesca       alll the books are needing to be manually cataloged
01:34 wizzycray       *nod* I thought that might happen.
01:34 wizzycray       all good things take time.
01:35 Francesca       Its just this last shelf
01:35 Francesca       I was looking forward to finising
01:35 Francesca       *finishing
01:39 mtj             rangi: about for quick Q, re: schema.kc.org?
01:41 mtj             ah, i see there is a bug about for the issue already - bug 18026
01:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18026 enhancement, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , URL to database columns link in system preferences is incorrect
01:41 wizzycray       yeah that's gonna be a problem all over
01:43 mtj             ..should be possible to subst the correct  $VERSION to those urls
01:44 wizzycray       I just meant that there are a lot of places where the link is wrong
01:44 wizzycray       the solution is easy enough :)
01:46 mtj             quick fix could be to alias /tables  to /master
01:47 wizzycray       mm
01:48 wizzycray       you could do a js transform on that url when it's clicked maybe.
01:48 wizzycray       that sounds so sketch tho
01:48 wizzycray       ;)
01:51 rangi           you should link the right version in each branch is the idea
01:51 rangi           its no point looking at the schema of master, when you are running 3.22
01:51 rangi           so that link should be updated each release by the release manager
01:52 rangi           problem solved
01:53 mtj             agreed :)
01:57 Francesca       almost finishing!!
01:57 Francesca       *finished!
01:57 Francesca       can't spell today
01:59 bag             hmm I clicked on it today in training and I had a landing page to then choose which which schema I wanted
02:00 bag             http://schema.koha-community.org  So that doesn’t seem to be a problem
02:01 bag             heh - wrong page
02:01 bag             be quite bag
02:01 bag             quiet even
06:21 BobB            ok, end of my day ....
06:21 BobB            off to the footy
06:21 BobB            Sydney FC v Wellington Phoenix
06:22 BobB            I like the Nix, but not tonight :)
06:23 mtj             cya BobB, all the best :)
06:24 BobB            thx mtj, catch you tomorrow
06:24 bag             later BobB
06:38 Joubu           hi
06:38 wahanui         hello, Joubu
06:38 Joubu           cait: about the marcxml error from rebuild_zebra, I do not think it is a bug
06:38 Joubu           I may be using the old version of the script
06:39 Joubu           debian scripts have to be updated with new ones
06:39 mtj             heya bag, Joubu
06:40 bag             hey mtj
06:40 mtj             Joubu: yeah, i think i hit that too ^
06:40 mtj             (patchset worked ok after i used the new rebuild_zebra)
06:47 Joubu           cait: confirmed, it's fixed with 16733, you need dev_install in your koha-conf, then copy the debian files (can be done with cp_debian_files.pl from koha-misc4dev)
07:07 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:35 * LibraryClaire watches tumbleweeds roll by
07:35 cait            quiet? can istay in bed? :)
07:35 LibraryClaire   chat is quiet :P
07:35 cait            meh
07:35 cait            okok, coming.
07:35 LibraryClaire   ;)
07:37 Joubu           @later tell fridolin BibLibre's sandboxes are broken, again
07:37 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:43 josef_moravec   hi cait ;)
07:52 marcelr         hi #koha
07:52 LibraryClaire   hey marcelr
07:52 marcelr         :)
07:58 alex_a          hello
08:01 Joubu           josef_moravec: around?
08:01 josef_moravec   Joubu: yes
08:01 Joubu           josef_moravec: great :) I have installed a new language but the test still passes
08:01 Joubu           could you give me more info?
08:01 Joubu           like the lang you installed, the one you selected, etc.
08:02 Joubu           I do not understand how that can have an impact with tests
08:02 josef_moravec   I have installed cs-CZ and en-GB
08:02 josef_moravec   I added warn for return value C4::Languages::getlanguage
08:02 josef_moravec   and it did returned en-GB
08:04 Joubu           it returns at the end of the sub, right?
08:04 Joubu           not the cached value
08:07 marcelr         josef_moravec: thx for testing 16.11
08:07 Joubu           josef_moravec: ok recreated!
08:08 josef_moravec   great ;)
08:08 josef_moravec   marcelr: not at all
08:09 marcelr         josef_moravec: could you have alook at bug 18070 ?
08:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18070 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Support clean removal of authority records
08:09 marcelr         i need it to build 9988 on top of it
08:10 josef_moravec   marcelr: I'll to do it today
08:10 marcelr         great; it adds some checks to merge to make its use wider
08:12 * magnuse       remembers to wave
08:13 marcelr         hi magnuse
08:13 wahanui         kamelåså
08:13 magnuse         hiya marcelr
08:52 cait            bug 15854
08:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15854 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Possible race condition for sending renewal notices
08:52 cait            maybe it's not a race condition... but whatever it is develops into quite a problem - any advice much appreciated
08:57 Joubu           I'd suggest to upgrade, I am not confident with 3.22 plack
08:58 cait            we have seen it without plack before too
08:58 cait            i think it might just make it 'worse' because things are faster
08:58 cait            at least if my theory is right
09:00 Joubu           how did they renew?
09:00 marcelr         cait: isnt that digest stuff somewhat buggy
09:01 marcelr         instead of not trusting plack, i would not trust digest ;)
09:01 cait            we haven't seen other problems with it
09:01 cait            i looked at the code
09:01 cait            it seems simple
09:01 cait            check if there is an unsend notice for this user and right type - amend
09:01 cait            if not, create a new one
09:01 marcelr         just remember seen some problems with it
09:02 cait            you can get some strange output if you don't have the templates right with the ----
09:02 cait            but otherwise we have had no problems with it (so far)
09:06 Joubu           cait: Did they use the renew checkbox from the checkouts table?
09:06 cait            it's my guess, i am trying to confirm it from the statistics
09:06 eythian         hi
09:06 wahanui         hi, eythian
09:06 eythian         @wunder jordaan, ams
09:06 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.7°C (10:04 AM CET on February 09, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
09:08 cait            trying to figure out how to differentiate opac and staff renewals
09:08 cait            oh!
09:08 cait            definitely a staff renewal
09:08 cait            not using the OPAC yet
09:08 cait            and all renewals have the same timestamp
09:08 cait            to the second
09:08 marcelr         hi eythian: colder again
09:09 Joubu           ok so you are certainly right
09:09 eythian         marcelr: yep, I was being snow-grained on for the first part of biking in to work.
09:09 cait            Joubu: not sure if i like being right :(
09:09 Joubu           it will not be easy to fix it
09:09 eythian         warmer than forecast though, I don't think it was supposed to go above -1 today
09:10 marcelr         maybe just ten cate plein
09:10 marcelr         hot dogs
09:10 wahanui         hot dogs are probably a greater risk than the toys in candy eggs
09:10 eythian         @wunder ams
09:10 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -1.0°C (9:55 AM CET on February 09, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
09:10 marcelr         you see
09:10 eythian         might well be
09:11 cait            Joubu: yeah :(
09:12 cait            i guess if you do multiple at the same time - it shoudl only have one write process for them all
09:12 cait            ideally
09:15 Joubu           cait: it's certainly the same with checkin if they do several checkin at once from the checkouts table
09:15 cait            ye
09:15 cait            p
09:15 cait            seen it there too now
09:15 wahanui         I haven't seen 'it', cait
09:15 cait            it's the same mechanism
09:16 cait            probably not so likely with checkouts... i might have to correct the bug comment, i think we haven't seen checkout notices double dup yet
09:17 Joubu           nope it should not be possible for CHECKOUT
09:17 cait            i will check, i think that fits what we have seen, but will check the database again
09:37 oha             huginn, cait: if two requests for C4::Message->find_last_message happen at the same time while no last message was found, will then 2 messages be generated?
09:37 huginn          oha: I've exhausted my database of quotes
09:38 oha             maybe the digest should be made on delivery, and not on queuing?
09:50 cait            that's the theory
09:50 cait            yeah, that wuld be one idea
09:50 cait            or pass around a list of items and do only one write to the message if they are at the same time
09:50 cait            @who oha
09:50 huginn          aleisha oha.
09:51 cait            heh :)
09:51 cait            @whois oha
09:51 huginn          cait: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois".
09:51 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
09:51 cait            heh :)
09:51 cait            just wondered where you are from :)
09:52 cait            ah, and be careful, huginn is only a bot - likes to pretend to be human
09:55 eythian         cait: commands get prefixed with a '/'
09:56 * LibraryClaire commands things
09:56 cait            yep, now i remember )
09:56 eythian         LibraryClaire: it's not polite to refer to your workmates as "things"
09:56 LibraryClaire   :D
10:00 oha             cait: a simple solution could be to gain a lock on the user row before checking the last_message
10:00 oha             i'm typing from norway
10:02 cait            welcome :)
10:02 cait            i am not sure how locking would work with mysql
10:02 cait            we don't seem to do it in general - but someone might be able to correct me
10:02 cait            the prblem is not the user, but the entry in the message_queue table
10:02 Joubu           yep I recreate and I am on it ;)
10:02 cait            ah... blocking the user so the renewal needs to finish first... ?
10:03 Joubu           Ghd
10:03 Joubu           We need to execute the find_last_message and enqueue in a transaction and LOCK the tables
10:03 * cait          draws Joubu fan art
10:04 Joubu           I managed to recreate easily the problem actually
10:04 oha             SELECT * FROM myTab WHERE cond FOR UPDATE; # will lock that row until the transaction holds
10:08 Joubu           Hum, that works but I got something in the log
10:08 Joubu           Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction
10:17 oha             mysql tends to scream "deadlock" easily
10:17 oha             what if you try to "join" messages on delivery, instead of trying to amend on append?
10:18 oha             delivery is non-concurrent
10:20 Joubu           oha: that would imply a quite big rewrite :)
10:21 Joubu           I do not understand what mean a deadlock on an insert
10:21 Joubu           I locked the row with SELECT FOR UPDATE
10:22 Joubu           and it seems that another tx get the deadlock on trying to insert into the table
10:24 cait            so it doesn't wait but gets an error
10:24 cait            ?
10:32 Joubu           Hum weird, seems like I will need to read a bit about transactions
10:34 Joubu           It seems that process 1 and process 2 open tx1 and tx2, lock the row on select, then insert
10:34 Joubu           and tx1 (or 2?) get a deadlock on the insert
10:34 Joubu           then the other one inserts
10:34 Joubu           that is not at all how I expect things to work :)
10:35 * cait          keeps fingers crossed
10:47 ashimema        that's not how I understand transactions
10:47 ashimema        everything inside the transaction should be repeated if one part fails
10:48 ashimema        so.. if it's a simple select + insert and the insert from one tx fails, then the other tx should rollback to the beginning of it's scope and select again before inserting..
10:48 ashimema        at least that's my understanding of what dbic does
10:48 Joubu           I am not talking about tx that fail
10:48 Joubu           but about SELECT FOR UPDATE that lock an INSERT in the locked table, not only the rows "FOR UPDATE" should lock
10:49 ashimema        interesting.. odd then
10:49 Joubu           ashimema: the 2 tx are concurents
10:49 Joubu           so opened at the same time
10:50 Joubu           What I want is a lock on the table
10:50 Joubu           but if I use "LOCK TABLES", I need so specify all the tables that will be accessed during the transactions
10:51 Joubu           (and there is a GetPreparedLetter in the tx..., so potentially access to a lot of tables)
10:51 ashimema        ouch
10:51 * ashimema      steps back and wishes Joubu good luck
10:52 Joubu           I think I have managed to simplify the code, to restrict the race condition. But it is still not 100% safe :-/
10:53 * ashimema      thinks we often live dangerously in koha ;)
10:53 cait            we made the system too fast...
10:53 cait            we need to undo that.
10:55 marcelr         lets make Koha slower :)
10:55 marcelr         cait: add a preference WantToSleep in seconds
10:56 cait            :)
10:56 cait            bbiab
11:00 mtj             Joubu: i bumped into some 'deadlock' info last week...
11:00 mtj             https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2332768/how-to-avoid-mysql-deadlock-found-when-trying-to-get-lock-try-restarting-trans
11:00 Joubu           yes first dd
11:00 Joubu           yes first answer, I have read it already :)
11:00 Joubu           thx
11:02 marcelr         josef_moravec1: which authority did you remove for that paste
11:04 mtj             "In MySQL 5.6, you can run with the innodb_print_all_deadlocks option enabled to collect info about all deadlocks (not just the most recent one) in the MySQL error log."
11:04 mtj             https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/25472/how-can-i-configure-mysql-innodb-to-handle-1000s-of-inserts-per-hour
11:07 mtj             pt-deadlock-logger could be handy too -> https://www.percona.com/doc/percona-toolkit/2.1/pt-deadlock-logger.html
11:07 * mtj           not sure if it runs on mysql 5.5
11:27 marcelr         josef_moravec1: do you use the latest kohadevbox? git pull on kohadevbox for the changes of this week
11:27 marcelr         might be that your zebra reindex is not running correctly
11:45 josef_moravec1  marcelr: did this morning
11:45 marcelr         ok
11:45 josef_moravec1  marcelr: look like reindexing is broken somehow...
11:45 marcelr         you could check the reindex by searching or inspect the zebraqueue table
11:45 marcelr         do you have a dev_install entry in koha-conf
11:45 josef_moravec1  I did that, and it looks ok...
11:46 josef_moravec1  but index is not really updated...
11:46 marcelr         the problem is that merge does a an=xx search and cannot find your biblio
11:47 marcelr         i dont have a kohadevbox here, but can check tomorrow
11:47 josef_moravec1  ok, i will try few things now and will see...
11:47 marcelr         maybe run it by hand
11:48 josef_moravec1  i tried, but there is really something broken... the update is done, but removed record still appears in search result...
11:48 josef_moravec1  I have to do something wrong...
11:48 marcelr         hmm
11:49 marcelr         do you use zebra only or elastic too
11:49 josef_moravec1  only zebra I believe
11:49 marcelr         ok
11:50 josef_moravec1  but I am going to check ;)
11:52 marcelr         Joubu: interesting mix of DBI and DBIx :)
11:52 Joubu           marcelr: ?
11:52 marcelr         yes
11:52 Joubu           bug 15854?
11:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15854 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Possible race condition for sending renewal/check-in notices
11:52 marcelr         yes i meant that one
11:53 Joubu           I do not understand :)
11:53 marcelr         txn via schema, and lock via dbh
11:53 Joubu           I do not know how I could have done that a different way
11:54 Joubu           C4::Context->dbh is actually retrieving the $dbh from $schema->storage
11:54 marcelr         im not familiar with locking in dbix is it not possible?
11:55 Joubu           it is the way to go :)
11:55 marcelr         saw this one now: $schema->dbh_do("LOCK TABLES blah");
11:56 Joubu           it's the same
11:57 Joubu           I prefer to retrieve the dbh from C4::Context
11:57 marcelr         yes it seems
11:57 Joubu           just because 99% (more?) of the code does that
12:00 Joubu           kivilahtio: Any chances you could provide a patch for bug 18085?
12:00 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18085 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Elasticsearch ids are not being stored correctly
12:33 tcohen          morning
12:35 LibraryClaire   hi tcohen
12:35 tcohen          hi LibraryClaire
12:36 cait            hola tcohen :)
12:36 tcohen          hey cait
12:36 tcohen          bsz is friendly this morning
12:37 tcohen          =D
12:37 LibraryClaire   bsz just had espressos
12:37 cait            caffeine
12:37 cait            !
12:37 tcohen          so you're high!
12:37 cait            um...
12:38 * LibraryClaire has palpitations from too much caffeine
12:38 * tcohen        needs an expresso
12:40 tcohen          hi oleonard
12:40 wahanui         hi oleopard
12:40 * oleonard      waves
12:40 LibraryClaire   oleonard!
12:40 wahanui         oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:44 eythian         oleopard!
12:44 wahanui         oh! leopard!
12:46 * cait          waves oleonard
12:51 tcohen1         it seems
12:51 tcohen          that my 8GB RAM box cannot run a 4GB RAM VM, suspend, and recover nicely
12:57 Joubu           same here
12:58 Joubu           it tooks 100% CPU for a while, I always shoot it, never waited for it to finish
12:59 Joubu           Another weird behavior, when I close the lid (it does not suspend, don't really know the status actually), the VM is working ok. But the time has been "suspended"
13:08 tcohen          Joubu: I blame I/O and recovering from the suspended state
13:09 tcohen          I'll try lowering swappiness
13:09 tcohen          and maybe moving to an SSD drive
13:09 Joubu           I am on an SSD drive
13:10 tcohen          I don't have issues on my SSD-driven laptop
13:10 tcohen          but on my desktop
13:12 Joubu           Did you notice the date difference?
13:14 tcohen          not really
13:15 marcelr         tcohen: please see bug 17932
13:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17932 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Koha::Object should provide a TO_JSON method
13:17 tcohen          marcelr: are you sure that's applied on top of current master?
13:17 marcelr         yes
13:17 tcohen          (i.e. with 17927 applied)
13:17 marcelr         its pushed?
13:17 marcelr         test fails too
13:18 tcohen          odd
13:18 marcelr         not sure if its a configuration issue
13:18 tcohen          you called restart_all, right?
13:18 marcelr         ?
13:18 tcohen          i'll check, marcelr thanks
13:18 tcohen          if your box runs plack
13:19 tcohen          the schema needs to be reloaded, etc
13:19 marcelr         thix box still does api via apache only
13:19 marcelr         no proxy statements for apu
13:19 marcelr         api
13:25 tcohen          marcelr: https://snag.gy/rFC9Ev.jpg
13:25 tcohen          notice lost: false (i.e. a proper boolena)
13:25 marcelr         hm
13:26 marcelr         will be looking a bit further
13:26 tcohen          regarding the tests
13:26 tcohen          patrons.t pass for me
13:26 tcohen          holds.t was failing before the patches and I plan to try fix them
13:27 marcelr         ok i will start with the first failing test
13:27 marcelr         probably some config thing then
13:35 talljoy         .
13:46 oleonard        If I try to run kohadevbox at the same time as another box, I get an error, "The forwarded port to 2222 is already in use on the host machine"
13:46 oleonard        Is that something which can be changed in the configuration?
13:48 oleonard        Oh I'll bet kidclamp knows.
13:48 kidclamp        hmm?
13:48 oleonard        If I try to run kohadevbox at the same time as another box, I get an error, "The forwarded port to 2222 is already in use on the host machine"
13:49 oleonard        Is that something which can be changed in the configuration?
13:49 oleonard        I've tried doing nothing and I'm all out of ideas.
13:50 kidclamp        I would think so, I know it handles things okay if you open two kohadevboes and rtoutes to a new port
13:52 kidclamp        http://joequery.me/guides/multiple-vagrant-vms-ssh-2222-already-in-use/
13:52 kidclamp        needs to be added to vagrant file I think
13:52 kidclamp        oleonard, tcohen probably knows better, but mucking about with that stuff should do something :-)
13:53 oleonard        Cool thanks
13:55 AndrewIsh       hi #koha!
13:55 tcohen          oleonard, the only thing that can get tricky is port mapping for the OPAC and Staff
13:55 tcohen          there will be a collision
13:56 AndrewIsh       just referring to this https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Working_with_Bootstrap_OPAC_LESS_files are we still building opac CSS will ie7 compatibility, or is that page out of date?
13:56 AndrewIsh       s/will/with/
13:59 oleonard        AndrewIsh: To be honest I don't recall what that does or whether it's even relevant to the OPAC's CSS
14:00 oleonard        However, I think we're all ready to give up on IE7
14:01 AndrewIsh       oleonard:  lol, fair enough :) i'll just use the simpler --compress argument on lessc then. thanks :)
14:01 * oleonard      needs a whole month of hackfests to get caught up on Koha stuff
14:01 AndrewIsh       :)
14:02 AndrewIsh       lol, trying to use the --compress argument results in "The compress option has been deprecated. We recommend you use a dedicated css minifier, for instance see less-plugin-clean-css" so it seems that the longer example is actually the correct one now (perhaps without the "compatibility" argument)
14:03 AndrewIsh       what's the minimum IE version supported by the OPAC btw?
14:03 Joubu           "Even newer versions have deprecated "--compress" in favour of a separate NPM package. To install the CSS compressor:"
14:03 Joubu           read one more line ;)
14:04 AndrewIsh       Joubu:  oh yes, well spotted! ;-)
14:40 Harold          good day everyone at #koha
14:40 oleonard        Hi Harold
14:57 marcelr         bye #koha
15:14 francharb       good morning all
15:14 oleonard        Hi francharb
15:15 francharb       Hi oleonard :)
15:34 oleonard        logcat?
15:35 oleonard        s and logcats living together? Mass hysteria!
15:35 logcat          meow
15:39 logcat          hi, today our main koha server gave up on us, (HDD failure). I am to migrate KOHA to a new server. Thanksfully we have daily backups, and so I need to install koha and then apply the backup. I just need to clarify a doubt. Should I be running `koha-create --create-db` and then run `koha-restore`, or should I be directly running `koha-restore` w/o running `koha-create`?
15:40 eythian         I think you can run koha-restore directly.
15:42 logcat          eythian: Thanks!
15:43 eythian         (I bet you're one of a small percentage of libraries actually doing backups.)
15:44 logcat          I have a python script running as cron job which uploads the daily backups to GDrive. ;)
15:44 eythian         good work :)
16:04 Joubu           make sure the backup is not empty when you upload it ;)
16:05 oleonard        @wunder 45701
16:05 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is -3.1°C (11:05 AM EST on February 09, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
16:05 oleonard        @wunder 45764
16:05 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in kimberly ohio, Nelsonville, Ohio is -2.5°C (11:05 AM EST on February 09, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
16:25 ashimema        khall about?
16:25 khall           what's up?
16:25 ashimema        got any tips on fault finding with the paypal stuff..
16:25 ashimema        works in test mode.. doesn't in production
16:27 khall           ashimema: bummer : \ I wish I had some tips. The best I can think of is to dump the output that PayPal is passing back, There is usually an error code in there
16:29 Joubu           ashimema: sounds like an easy one to debug....
16:30 ashimema        ok, will get a bit more info from the the colleague who's dealing with it.. not sure hwo far in the process we're getting
16:33 logcat          eythian: The old system (whose backups I am about to apply) has not been updated for a couple of months. Will that be a problem?
16:34 eythian         No, it should work itself out
16:38 LibraryClaire   did you just want to type /nick nick kidclamp?
16:38 kidclamp        heh, was being lazy to clear laters
16:40 eythian         you just have to say something...
16:40 kidclamp        but it was a later for Nick - not for kidclamp
16:41 eythian         oh
16:41 eythian         that makes sense then
16:41 eythian         as you were
18:45 * cait          waves
18:46 khall           @later tell tcohen ping me about bug 11677 when you have a chance
18:46 huginn          khall: The operation succeeded.
19:42 nuentoter       question, whats going on if I look up an author, get 5 results when there are 12 books on the shelf, I check one of the books out that was not found in the search and then when i search again that item and record now appear
19:53 cait            seems like you hsould reindex
19:53 cait            the checking out of the item causes the record to reindex
19:53 cait            because the items are index with the records and the onloan status changed
19:53 cait            if it turns up after you check iit out, it probably means it wasn't indexed before as are the other records
19:54 cait            nuentoter: ^
20:18 nuentoter       thanks cait
20:19 cait            hope it made sense
20:24 nuentoter       yup, im cleaning up remnants and filling gaps in the database, haden't realized I haven't reindexed in quite awhile until you mentioned it lol
21:29 eythian         http://bywatersolutions.com/2017/02/07/wilson-college-koha-support/ <-- bag, I'm pretty sure John Stewart is still alive and probably on TV
21:35 wizzycray       eythian, kek
22:11 cait            wizzyrea: about to give the web installer patches a go to
22:14 cait            hm applied 18039 first because it says depends, should i do that later on?
22:15 wizzycray       well I did them the other way around
22:15 wizzycray       I suppose I should go back and do it 18039 first
22:15 cait            there is a conflict
22:15 wizzycray       !
22:15 cait            trying now with your sequence
22:15 wizzycray       wasn't for me?
22:15 wizzycray       oh
22:15 wizzycray       as you were.
22:16 cait            i tihk the dependencies is just the wrong directipon
22:16 wizzycray       also a bunch of those patches need to be obsoleted on 17855
22:16 wizzycray       you only need the last one
22:16 wizzycray       afaict
22:16 cait            Applying: Bug 18039: en
22:16 cait            fatal: mode change for installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql, which is not in current HEAD
22:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages
22:17 wizzycray       hm.
22:17 cait            that's on top of 17855
22:18 * wizzycray     does it again
22:19 pastebot        "wizzyrea" at pasted "this is what I did" (47 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/310
22:19 wizzycray       I only applied the last patch from 17855
22:19 wizzycray       60092
22:19 cait            oh!
22:19 cait            i will try that
22:19 wizzycray       it's the rebased one, near as I can tell?
22:20 cait            so start with the last patch, get the web installer ones?
22:20 cait            and then the styling thing on top?
22:20 wizzycray       I am not sure what the styling thing is
22:20 wizzycray       my understanding of what Joubu said was that he had squashed the entire sequence
22:20 wizzycray       for 17855
22:21 wizzycray       but not obsoleted the old one
22:21 cait            makes sense
22:21 cait            i will try again :)
22:21 wizzycray       (My understanding could easily be flawed, but it works that way so...)
22:21 cait            i missed the squashed patch
22:21 cait            i am optimistic now :)
22:22 wizzycray       \o/
22:22 wizzycray       dance party!
22:22 wizzycray       \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/
22:23 cait            i was thinking of 17942
22:23 cait            but it's in doesn't apply
22:23 wizzycray       yeah I suspect a lot will have moved
22:23 wizzycray       for that one
22:24 wizzycray       bug 17942
22:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3
22:25 cait            hm not too bad
22:25 cait            only conflicts in 2 files actually
22:27 wizzycray       yeah, but it's the one that causes the problem joubu is seeing
22:27 wizzycray       the styling one adds that he must have a bad merge
22:28 wizzycray       or a bad conflict res or something
22:30 wizzycray       cait++ that patch is the complicating factor
22:30 cait            hm?
22:30 cait            ah, the bug Joubu saw?
22:30 wizzycray       yeah
22:34 cait            hm i tried to resolve
22:34 cait            might have to throw them out again if somehting looks wrong
22:34 cait            trying in english now first
22:36 cait            ooh like the new style
22:36 cait            so basic = new one, advanced = old one?
22:36 wizzycray       that's right
22:36 wahanui         no it's not.
22:36 wizzycray       shh
22:36 cait            heh
22:37 cait            maybe we could add a little hint to that page later
22:37 cait            to make it clear that basic is amore guided installation?
22:37 wizzycray       *nod* there's some textual cleanup
22:37 cait            separate bug!
22:37 wizzycray       but there's time!
22:37 cait            heh
22:37 cait            yep
22:37 wizzycray       and an alexbuckley_ :)
22:38 alexbuckley_    that would be bug 18059 which is in progess and I'm going to add to
22:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18059 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , Add further explanation of the steps in the onboarding tool
22:38 wizzycray       alexbuckley_++
22:38 cait            :)
22:39 cait            why don't preselect staff for category?
22:39 cait            nto for now, just commenting as I go
22:40 cait            super cool
22:40 cait            i will try with german next
22:40 cait            :)
22:40 wizzycray       isn't it the nicest thing ever
22:41 wizzycray       to not get the yellow boxes of doom the first time you log in
22:41 cait            naturally
22:41 wizzycray       it seriously makes my day every time I test it
22:41 cait            it is really nice
22:42 cait            i think i might have resolved the conflicts right
22:42 cait            becuase nothing exploded
22:42 cait            but... possibly someone should take a closer look
22:43 wizzycray       oooo
22:43 wizzycray       um, would you consider putting your conflict resolved patch on owen's bug?
22:43 cait            i am on it :)
22:43 wizzycray       ah may zing thank you
22:43 cait            i will keep owen's for reference
22:43 wizzycray       *nod*
22:46 cait            i have commented with the files
22:47 cait            i hope i didn't mess up badly
22:48 * wizzycray     knows that feeling
22:48 cait            but it did look pretty
22:48 cait            alex or you might be able to tell if it's still complete :)
22:48 alexbuckley_    I'll have a look now
22:54 wizzycray       hm that's rather odd, it comes up in french on the first page
22:55 cait            did yo select french last time?
22:55 cait            it will be saved in your cookie maybe
22:55 cait            it comes up in your browser/cookie's language usually
22:55 cait            no umlauts in the username? only slightly offended :)
22:57 wizzycray       oh that must be it
22:57 cait            german seems ok
22:57 wizzycray       dorky cookies.
22:57 wizzycray       this new styling makes us look like grown ups!
22:57 cait            should still work, just be french :)
22:57 wizzycray       it's so good!
22:57 cait            i think i might have broke some javascript, giving it another go in french
22:58 wizzycray       it's. so. pretty.
22:59 cait            yeah, the web installer was due :)
23:02 wizzycray       TypeError: antiClickjack is null[Learn More] hm, there's this one
23:03 cait            hm yeah, that's one
23:03 cait            also wondering - shoudl there be a javascript check on password length?
23:03 cait            only complained after isaved
23:03 cait            or tried to :)
23:04 cait            and there is strings in the include for it
23:06 cait            ah yep
23:06 cait            i tihnk i killed that
23:07 cait            in the step3 file
23:07 cait            we need to bring back the javascript
23:12 cait            hm no
23:12 cait            it should be in the include actually hm
23:13 cait            i tihnk i have to give up for tonight
23:13 cait            maybe alexbuckley_ can see if it's ok?
23:15 cait            alexbuckley_: glad i got to give it a test run - it looks amazing :)
23:16 cait            i will try to sign it, once i have run thorugh all the languages
23:16 cait            night all :)
23:30 cait            sorry, if the last bits were just gibberish
23:31 cait            was looking at hte password match in javascript
23:31 cait            night!
23:57 wizzycray       it does look amazing it's so happy making.