Time  Nick            Message
04:15 jcamins         @later tell tcohen RS256 or DEAAAAATTTTTHHHHH.
04:15 huginn          jcamins: The operation succeeded.
07:05 Joubu           hi #koha
07:06 LibraryClaire   hi Joubu, hi #koha
07:10 drojf           hi #koha
07:11 LibraryClaire   moin drojf
07:11 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
07:14 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:14 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -3.9°C (8:12 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
07:18 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
07:18 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 4.6°C (8:13 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:19 drojf           unfair
07:34 * magnuse       waves
07:34 magnuse         @wunder enbo
07:34 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.83 in 1044 hPa (Steady).
07:34 magnuse         @wunder marseille
07:34 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:34 magnuse         @wunder marseille, france
07:34 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 8.0°C (8:30 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:35 LibraryClaire   hi magnuse
07:35 wahanui         kamelåså
07:36 magnuse         guten morgen BüchereiKlara
07:36 magnuse         bonjour matts
07:41 matts           hello magnuse !
07:41 magnuse         @wunder longyearbyen
07:41 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
07:41 magnuse         now that is weird!
07:43 magnuse         20 degrees above normal for this time of year
07:45 LibraryClaire   eek
07:50 drojf           hei magnuse
07:50 magnuse         moin drojf
07:50 magnuse         hiya josef_moravec
07:54 alex_a          salut
07:54 drojf           hi alex_a
07:57 LibraryClaire   hi alex_a
07:59 magnuse         ooh, mahara has custom lego? https://www.instagram.com/p/BQOnMWxDeZF/
08:00 drojf           we should have koha merchandise
08:02 drojf           i wanted to have 3d printed custom wine gums for the berlin hackfest, but the 3d wine gum printer had already left town :P
08:02 magnuse         3d wine gum printer!
08:02 magnuse         yeah, koha merchandise would be cool
08:04 drojf           they had the printer in some store in berlin, but then moved it to another location. maybe there is another one now, have not checked since
08:05 drojf           i'd like one myself. and then just lie under it with my mouth open
08:06 drojf           might be fun only the first five minutes though
08:07 josef_moravec   hi magnuse
08:07 wahanui         kamelåså
08:07 josef_moravec   morning koha ;)
08:07 drojf           hi josef_moravec
08:08 josef_moravec   hi drojf ;)
08:11 josef_moravec   somebody interested in testing bug 18061 ? ;)
08:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Enhance items page (moredetail.pl) with Bootstrap 3 panels
08:13 magnuse         drojf: do you really need them custom shaped if you are having them piped straight into your mouth? ;-)
08:14 drojf           magnuse: they will be custom shaped to my stomach
08:15 magnuse         ah, that makes sense!
08:16 drojf           hmm maybe the printer is still there after all. or again
08:16 drojf           ha
08:35 fridolin        hie there
08:35 drojf           hi fridolin
08:36 fridolin        drojf LibraryClaire magnuse and Cie : le bonjour
08:36 LibraryClaire   salut fridolin
08:37 fridolin        drojf: do you know if there is a work on Koha for Debian Stretch ?
08:39 drojf           fridolin: i have tried packaging in a stretch vm and will add it to the koha nightlies when i have some time. bug 17618 might be relevant, it ws for xenial i think
08:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , perl-modules Debian package name change in Perl 5.22
08:39 fridolin        drojf: there is also a known issue with OAI Perl lib
08:40 drojf           do you have a link or some more info?
08:40 magnuse         hiya fridolin
08:46 drojf           fridolin: ^
08:48 fridolin        drojf:  Bug 17704
08:48 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17704 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OAI-PMH compatiblity with Ubuntu Xenial and Debian Stretch
08:49 drojf           ah right i already knew that once
08:50 drojf           @later tell rangi could we get the keyword "stretch" for bugzilla please?
08:50 huginn          drojf: The operation succeeded.
08:58 josef_moravec   Hello LibraryClaire, thank for sign off ;)
09:01 LibraryClaire   hi josef_moravec - no worries :)
09:13 magnuse         bug 18061
09:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Signed Off , Enhance items page (moredetail.pl) with Bootstrap 3 panels
09:13 magnuse         LibraryClaire++
09:22 eythian         so my @wunder ams
09:22 eythian         err
09:22 eythian         @wunder ams
09:22 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is -0.3°C (10:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Snow Grains. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
09:22 eythian         heh "snow grains"
09:28 drojf           hi eythian
09:28 eythian         hello drojf
09:29 drojf           what is snow grains? hail?
09:32 eythian         I think it means that it's snowing, but not quite enough to call it snow. Or something along those lines.
09:32 drojf           oh it is less than snow? it sounded like more, or special
09:32 eythian         oh, no, it's different
09:32 eythian         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_grains
09:33 eythian         so I guess it's like big snowflakes/tiny hail
09:33 drojf           ah. graupel maybe
09:33 drojf           in german
09:33 eythian         no
09:33 drojf           leo says graupel is soft hail. lol
09:34 drojf           wtf
09:34 eythian         "Unlike snow pellets, snow grains..."
09:34 eythian         and snow pellets are graupel in English
09:34 drojf           then i call it schneeregen and don't care
09:34 drojf           or it's weather we don't have :P
09:35 eythian         one of those many things that's untranslateable into German
09:36 drojf           we have a word for everything
09:36 drojf           a very long word
09:37 drojf           or i will borrow lumijyvänen
09:37 drojf           that looks nice
09:37 eythian         it's apparently just "lichte sneeuw" here.
09:38 drojf           sleet is schlackerwetter
09:38 drojf           it's all schlackerwetter
09:39 eythian         I guess English speakers make better eskimos.
09:39 drojf           yup
10:04 drojf           later #koha
10:40 drojf           hi again
10:43 LibraryClaire   hi drojf
11:19 cait            Joubu: did you want to scare everyone by putting the next release in march? :)
11:21 cait            Joubu++
11:23 cait            awesome summary
11:51 rsantellan      good morning #koha
12:48 oleonard        Hi #koha
12:49 LibraryClaire   hey oleonard
12:49 wahanui         oleopard
12:52 drojf           ho ileopard
12:56 eythian         hi oleopard
12:57 eythian         @wunder jordaan, ams
12:57 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.8°C (1:53 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
12:59 cait            @wunder Konstanz
12:59 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 6.7°C (1:53 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:59 eythian         toasty
13:06 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
13:06 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -2.2°C (2:04 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
13:06 drojf           :(
13:12 LibraryClaire   last week I didn'T needa  coat when I went to the breakfast lady. It was very exciting and then I realised it was still only 2° C
13:12 magnuse         @wunder enbo
13:12 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (1:50 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.86 in 1045 hPa (Steady).
13:13 magnuse         LibraryClaire: the breakfast lady?
13:13 eythian         magnuse: you don't have a breakfast lady?
13:13 LibraryClaire   there's a bakery van that drives around the industrial area here and stops outside the office at like 7:50/7:55 am
13:13 eythian         that's what's wrong with your country
13:13 magnuse         not that i know
13:13 LibraryClaire   sometimes i buy breakfast/lunch from her
13:14 magnuse         nice!
13:14 LibraryClaire   there's an exciting insight into the start of myday
13:15 eythian         I wish I editing the hours of a place in google maps actually made the shop change its hours.
13:15 eythian         *I wish that
13:15 eythian         because then I could make the bakery near me still be open when I get home from work
13:16 eythian         and on sunday
13:17 LibraryClaire   I know there are bakerys open on Sunday but I haven't figured out which ones yet
13:17 oleonard        It's just as well there isn't a breakfast lady here because I'd buy from her every day and go broke.
13:18 oleonard        LibraryClaire: Bakery stakeout!
13:18 LibraryClaire   breakfast lady saves my day most days
13:18 eythian         I like the one near me, it's really good, just the hours mean that I only get to go there on saturdays.
13:18 eythian         (or I could get up earlier, but ahahaha)
13:21 LibraryClaire   oleonard: I literally need to go round all of them and find their opening times. Suspect they're only open til like 7 though
13:27 magnuse         just count yourselves lucky you have bakeries
13:28 LibraryClaire   it's a higlight of moving back to Germany
13:45 eythian         I had a look on maps at all the ones around where I live. None are open on Sunday, and only the one closest gets all 5/5 reviews.
13:48 oleonard        http://www.athensbreadcompany.com/
13:52 * LibraryClaire drools
13:52 eythian         Athens is a bit far away from me though
13:53 eythian         I wouldn't have much of a day left after dealing with airports and flying to greece
13:53 oleonard        Sorry eythian, an even farther Athens.
13:54 eythian         you can't just make up places, oleonard.
13:54 oleonard        Hey we stole this country fair and square, we get to make up all the names.
13:55 * LibraryClaire takes the bread and backs away slowly
13:56 * ashimema      bakes bread and backs away slowly ;)
13:57 oleonard        if there's an opposite to gluten-intolerance I have it. I could live on bread and beer.
13:59 LibraryClaire   I love bread
14:00 drojf           take all the bread and beer, weird gluten people
14:01 * ashimema      loves bread too..
14:01 ashimema        which is good, because I live near a massive industry size bakery and have the smell of cooking bread nearly all day most days ;)
14:02 LibraryClaire   the best smell
14:02 LibraryClaire   apart from frying onions
14:02 ashimema        hence why I bake allot of my own bread.. ;)
14:03 ashimema        https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Allied+Bakeries/@51.9249449,-0.1630297,1171m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5513128156e4aede!8m2!3d51.9243115!4d-0.1654896 it really is a massive bakery
14:04 * LibraryClaire wants bread now
14:16 jcamins         ashimema: now I want to bake more bread.
14:16 * magnuse       has not baked bread in a loooong time
14:20 oleonard        Heh, the smell of bread attracted jcamins
14:28 drojf           and a second oleonard
14:31 cait            hm interesting effect
14:32 jcamins         cait: is it so surprising?
14:32 cait            hm not really, just wondering how we could make use of it to get the queues down ;)
14:32 ashimema        :)
14:32 ashimema        nothing like pounding a bread doe in the morning ;)
14:33 ashimema        and the smell of fresh bread baking in the oven wafting up at lunch time ;)
14:33 LibraryClaire   https://twitter.com/mattblak/status/828957134310219776
14:36 * magnuse       wanders off to cook skrei
14:37 * LibraryClaire googles skrei
14:38 oleonard        I hear it's Norway's best kept secret.
14:38 LibraryClaire   German google tells me it's a Kabeljau
14:39 eythian         Kabeljauw here
14:39 * LibraryClaire finds translator
14:39 eythian         atlantic cod
14:39 LibraryClaire   ah cod
14:39 eythian         (handy trick: stick '&hl=en' to the end of a google url to switch it to english.)
14:39 LibraryClaire   I knew it was a fish, but I don't knwo the German names for fishies
14:40 magnuse         kabeljau sounds horrible
14:40 magnuse         it's a special kind of cod
14:40 drojf           no it sounds happy
14:40 LibraryClaire   yes, it said it was a special norwegian "winterkabeljau"
14:40 drojf           kabel? jau!
14:41 magnuse         it migrates from the barents sea way up i nthe north to the Lofoten area to mate
14:41 * oleonard      wonders if this article, "Skrei Cod, the New Food Fetish" is accurate when it says it's also called the "Fish of love."
14:41 LibraryClaire   and then you eat it
14:41 eythian         sounds like the sort of thing that would take down the internet of island countries.
14:41 drojf           so you make love to it and then eat it?
14:41 drojf           weird fetish
14:41 magnuse         fish of love - yeah, they come here to mate and we catch and eat then
14:41 LibraryClaire   being a fish must suck
14:42 eythian         also a weird fetish
14:42 magnuse         lulz - i'll wander off now i think :-)
14:42 oleonard        Thanks for the fish lesson magnuse, I feel like I've learned all I need to learn today.
14:43 * oleonard      quits early
14:43 LibraryClaire   and more
14:43 drojf           to mate?
15:13 Joubu           cait: heh indeed, May, not March...
15:15 cait            wake up call :)
15:16 tcohen          hi
15:17 LibraryClaire   hola tcohen
15:17 tcohen          jcamins++
15:29 tcohen          hi LibraryClaire
15:29 LibraryClaire   o/
15:31 eythian         @later tell dcook http://68.media.tumblr.com/96bcd56f76928e74dc2d3ac1594639a9/tumblr_obwwcsxuuM1rn7bzro1_400.jpg
15:31 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
15:36 oleonard        eythian: Have you been hanging out on /r/ShowerVegemite again?
15:37 LibraryClaire   lol
15:37 eythian         I don't do vegemite, thank you very much. Where I come from, we have standards.
15:37 LibraryClaire   but what if you like vegemite and marmite?
15:37 eythian         not permitted.
15:37 * LibraryClaire feels like a rebel
15:40 eythian         get out
15:41 LibraryClaire   NZ marmite is different to british marmite
15:41 eythian         yep
15:42 eythian         (well, so I've heard, don't think I've tried the british version.)
15:42 eythian         I should go to the M&S before it closes down here and see if they have it there, for science.
15:43 LibraryClaire   I found some here in the supermarket, they don't understand though. They put it in the soup and stock area, not with the spreads
15:43 eythian         ‽
15:43 eythian         crazy country
15:44 eythian         http://www.parool.nl/amsterdam/marks-en-spencer-in-de-kalverstraat-sluit-zijn-deuren~a4410975/ <-- think I'm a bit late :/
15:45 eythian         on the other hand, their website suggests they're open. Who knows.
15:48 * LibraryClaire wants bread covered in yeast extract products
15:48 * drojf         shivers
15:48 eythian         I still have a 500gm jar that the koha team gave me before I left. Next time someone comes over from NZ, I'm going to have to put an order in for another one.
15:49 * oleonard      dips his bread covered in yeast extract into his beer
15:49 * cait          shudders
15:50 * LibraryClaire thinks oleonard is a genius
15:50 * drojf         dies allergy death just from watching
15:51 eythian         http://www.sanza.co.uk/Sanitarium_NZ_Mite.asp <-- haha, they had to change the name
15:52 LibraryClaire   sanitarium yeast extract sounds so delicious and inviting...
15:53 eythian         doesn't it just!
15:54 fridolin        sseeee u
16:00 LibraryClaire   laters #koha
16:00 oleonard        Maybe we need an international yeast extract tasting at the next Hackfest
16:00 LibraryClaire   :D :D
16:00 oleonard        (sorry drojf)
16:00 drojf           sure, have all the yeast fun you want
16:01 drojf           i can sit in the corner with a glass of water
16:03 * drojf         head home
16:03 drojf           later #koha
16:53 eythian         @wunder jordaaan, ams
16:53 huginn          eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:53 eythian         @wunder jordaaan, amsterdam
16:53 huginn          eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:53 eythian         @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
16:53 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.9°C (5:49 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
17:15 Joubu           josef_moravec_: Are you around?
17:33 tcohen          hi
17:35 CrispyBran      hello
17:35 wahanui         salut, CrispyBran
17:40 CrispyBran      tcohen, I'm looking at the instructions on the kohadevbox for working on patches, but I don't see anything about branches.  Are we using branches in this environment?
17:40 CrispyBran      I see how to apply a patch, but I don't see anything on removing it when done.
17:41 cait            you work like with git
17:41 oleonard        CrispyBran: It's not really an kohadevbox issue but a git workflow issue CrispyBran
17:41 cait            branches, git bz etc.
17:44 oleonard        CrispyBran: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
17:47 CrispyBran      The workflow is a bit fuzzy.  When I do vagrant up my environment is up, but then there are instructions for logging into the box (vagrant ssh), and getting into the instance's user session (sudo koha-shell kohadev).  There is some information on the instance's user session, but I am not getting when I need to vagrant ssh and when I need to get into the instance's user session.  I don't really understand what the instance is.
17:50 CrispyBran      From what I can see, I can only run the git branch commands outside of the instance user session and outside of vagrant ssh.  Is that where I should be issuing these commands?
17:51 oleonard        CrispyBran: My understanding is that you only need to use koha-shell for running commands which require instance-specific environment variables
17:51 oleonard        Everything else you do outside of that
17:52 cait            like if you want to run cronjob or maintenance scripts manually - then you would do koha-shell
17:52 oleonard        If you're not syncing with a git repository on your host machine you should do all your git stuff after 'vagrant ssh'
17:53 oleonard        CrispyBran: If you're just testing patches you don't need to worry about saving your work for later in branches
17:54 CrispyBran      In the past I have used branches to copy the master and apply patches.  Then when I am done I get rid of the branch.  If I don't use a branch, how do I remove patches when done testing?
17:56 oleonard        If you're just testing, you can apply patches directly on the master branch and then reset it
17:56 oleonard        git reset --hard origin
17:56 oleonard        That will kill all the changes made by the patch (or any other work you did)
17:57 CrispyBran      That is a workflow I haven't seen before.  Any other work?  Like bib changes or preference changes?
17:57 oleonard        No
17:57 oleonard        the database isn't affected by git
17:58 oleonard        The alternative is to create a new branch for each patch you want to test and then delete the branch when you're done
17:58 oleonard        This might be useful if you want to be able to switch between master and your testing branch to compare the difference
17:59 CrispyBran      Okay, I think I will keep it the way I know then.  Makes it easier on me.
17:59 CrispyBran      :)
17:59 CrispyBran      Thanks for the guidance.
19:01 cait            oleonard++ :)
19:02 cait            meeting time?
19:02 wahanui         mmm meat
19:03 koha            hello
19:03 oleonard        1 hour I thought
19:03 cait            ah ok
19:03 cait            yep i think you are right
19:04 koha            I have question in koha
19:04 oleonard        ...because in 1 hour I have to leave
19:04 koha            I imported .mrc file into my koha system
19:04 koha            and I saw the metadata of the books in OPAC
19:05 koha            but I want to add the pdf of all this books
19:05 koha            how ?
19:06 koha            are you here?
19:08 oleonard        You want to add the PDF version of the books?
19:08 koha            yes
19:08 koha            how ?
19:09 oleonard        Koha isn't really designed to do that
19:09 koha            ohh
19:10 oleonard        You can do it, but the workflow may not suit you
19:10 koha            but if the customer want to buy a book , what will we do?
19:10 oleonard        Buy a book? Koha isn't designed for selling books. It's library software.
19:11 koha            but the client may want to read any of this books ,right ?
19:11 oleonard        You could upload PDFs to a web-accessible location on your server and link to them via the 856 tag
19:12 oleonard        But Koha cannot control access to those files. It's not built to do that.
19:12 koha            hmm
19:12 koha            but what is the benefit of display only the metadata of books
19:12 oleonard        That's what library catalogs do
19:13 koha            what is the benefit for the client?
19:13 oleonard        ...because they are access points for physical collections of items to be borrowed.
19:13 koha            hmm
19:13 cait            they can find out if the book is available in the library  - and place a hold if it's lend to someone else already
19:14 cait            you can also present electornic collections - but the access to the resources will usually be dealt with by the provider
19:16 koha            thanks very much mr cait and mr oleonard
19:16 koha            thanks for your help
19:17 oleonard        You're welcome mr koha
19:17 koha            You helped me alot
19:56 oleonard        Bye #koha
20:00 kidclamp        hi everybody!
20:00 wahanui         Hi, Doctor Nick!
20:00 kidclamp        yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
20:00 drojf           hi kidclamp
20:01 * kidclamp      always slightyl regrets not going with doctornick just for that reason
20:01 barton          kidclamp needs joy's yes button.
20:01 kidclamp        it's my impression of the bit from tron
20:01 kidclamp        people want to have a meeting?
20:02 barton          yeah, I was thinking about that as well.
20:02 kidclamp        I'll give it a few just for people to wander in
20:03 * cait          waves
20:05 kidclamp        alrighty
20:05 kidclamp        #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017
20:05 huginn          Meeting started Wed Feb  8 20:05:38 2017 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:05 huginn          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:05 huginn          The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_february_2017'
20:05 kidclamp        #topic Introductions
20:05 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
20:05 josef_moravec1  #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici
20:05 drojf           #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
20:05 kidclamp        #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
20:05 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:06 barton          #info Barton Chittenden, BWS
20:06 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
20:06 kidclamp        okay
20:06 kidclamp        #topic Announcements
20:06 barton          here's the agenda: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_8_February_2017
20:07 cait            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_8_February_2017 today's agenda
20:07 kidclamp        thanks barton cait
20:07 kidclamp        anyone have any announcements?
20:07 Joubu           it's empty
20:07 kidclamp        yup
20:08 kidclamp        quick meeting :-D
20:08 kidclamp        no code guidelins to review so moving on
20:08 kidclamp        #topic Update form the Release manager (17.05)
20:09 kidclamp        Kyle can't be here but says there is nothing major to report, things are moving along
20:09 Shane-S         Holy...crap...how far behind am I...16.11...im running 3.20.02.000
20:09 cait            far
20:09 kidclamp        heh 3.22 - 16.05 - 16.11
20:10 cait            kidclamp types faster than me :)
20:10 kidclamp        speaking of 16.11
20:10 kidclamp        #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
20:10 cait            we just had 16.11.03 as a security release
20:10 barton          nice segue kidclamp.
20:10 Shane-S         I had a patron card creator question...but well....old software now
20:10 cait            #info String freeze for 16.11.04 will be Wednesday 15th (next week)
20:10 Shane-S         I can't seem to add all patrons...have to do it one "Add" link at a time...
20:11 kidclamp        Shane-S - we are in a meeting, please join us and save question for after?
20:11 cait            i'd like to see as many bug fixes processed as possible before then, of course
20:11 cait            i have just caught up with master again last night
20:11 cait            for example
20:11 Shane-S         Oh, sure thing it can wait
20:11 cait            bug 17940
20:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17940 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred
20:11 kidclamp        #info Bug 17940 is needed before string freeze
20:12 cait            one sec
20:12 kidclamp        okay
20:12 cait            ok
20:12 cait            i am looking into including bug 17913 too
20:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17913 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Merge three authority merge fixes
20:12 cait            but it would be nice if someone could help with testing
20:13 kidclamp        #info Bug 17913 is desired if someone can help test
20:13 cait            #info Release is planned to be on 22nd.
20:14 cait            Please let me know if I should miss something - trying hard not to break things :)
20:14 khall_          #info Kyle Hall, ByWater
20:14 cait            kidclamp: done :)
20:14 kidclamp        cait: dont be the big yellow bird: https://i.imgur.com/RI7Mz6M.gif
20:14 cait            hm haven't grown any feathers yet
20:14 cait            but otherwise that looks a bit like me in rl
20:15 cait            :)
20:15 kidclamp        I don't think we have any other maintainers so moving on
20:15 kidclamp        #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
20:16 kidclamp        Since tcohen is not here I will note that the latest version includes ES5 support and we need more testing there
20:16 Joubu           Some things are in the email I sent today. Just read it, and get involved...
20:16 kidclamp        #info Read Jonathans 'what's on in koha-devel'
20:17 kidclamp        #info test Elastisearch 5.X in the new kohadevbox
20:17 kidclamp        [off] once we fix the broken things
20:17 kidclamp        last call if anyone wants to jump in
20:18 kidclamp        #topic Updates from the QA team
20:18 cait            Joubu++ again for his summary and work on the different projects
20:18 kidclamp        #info please look at Jonathan's 'what's on in koha-devel' it is very useful here too
20:18 kidclamp        Joubu++
20:19 Joubu           thanks, good to know it's useful
20:19 barton          I love reading those. I feel like I know what's going on :-)
20:19 kidclamp        any other QA updates?
20:20 kidclamp        #info May is not March, but time flies - keep up on the queues where we can
20:20 kidclamp        :D
20:20 Joubu           indeed :)
20:21 kidclamp        #topic Set time of next meeting
20:21 kidclamp        I believe we actually have that set
20:21 kidclamp        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_22_February
20:21 kidclamp        22 February 2017, 13:00 UTC
20:22 kidclamp        #info please add your apologies to meetings you can't make and let us know if the times are not working
20:23 kidclamp        #endmeeting
20:23 cait            good one
20:23 huginn          Meeting ended Wed Feb  8 20:23:08 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:23 huginn          Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_8_february_2017.2017-02-08-20.05.html
20:23 huginn          Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_8_february_2017.2017-02-08-20.05.txt
20:23 huginn          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/development_irc_meeting_8_february_2017.2017-02-08-20.05.log.html
20:23 josef_moravec1  it was quick today ;)
20:23 cait            kidclamp++
20:23 drojf           kidclamp++
20:23 cait            ah and btw
20:23 kidclamp        koha++
20:23 cait            josef_moravec1++
20:23 cait            josef_moravec++ too
20:23 cait            now i have a nick I can give karma to :)
20:23 josef_moravec1  cait++ ;)
20:24 josef_moravec1  cait: I am going to try 17913 on 16.11
20:24 Joubu           mr cait++
20:24 cait            :P
20:24 cait            josef_moravec1: that would be much appreciated!
20:24 barton          whole meeting in 18 minutes.
20:25 kidclamp        heh speed is nice, but good discussion is useful :-)
20:25 josef_moravec1  kidclamp++
20:26 Joubu           Those quick meetings sounds useless to me
20:26 cait            I got help with testing
20:26 cait            :)
20:31 Joubu           bye #koha, see you tomorrow!
20:32 drojf           bye #koha, see you tomorrow!
20:32 drojf           too lazy to have own goodbye
20:34 barton          'his own goodbye' sounds like a euphimism for death.
20:43 Shane-S         okay anyone know a way to get all search results in the Patron Card Creator added to the batch...I am on 3.20(I know...summer new server and migration planned). Right now you click "Add" on the right of each name.
20:45 cait            Shane-S: sorry, don't have the old one and we never used labels :(
20:47 Shane-S         okay thank you, I wish I could upgrade quicker...but its a 1 woman show in the library, so I hate to upset her with changes
20:48 Shane-S         Not an emergency just thought someone might have a trick. I can keep doing ID exports and using word with free 3 of 9
21:08 Harold          good day all
21:14 cait            hi Harold
21:31 cait            josef_moravec1: taking another look at bug 18073
21:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18073 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Holds to pull UI improvements
21:31 cait            should it show up on the administration page for columns settings?
21:32 josef_moravec1  cait: yes it should
21:33 cait            we don't have a holds tab there
21:33 cait            if i change in the yaml file to circulation it works
21:33 cait            well it shows up in circulation then :)
21:33 josef_moravec1  cait: no, we have circulation only ad hold tables are here...
21:33 josef_moravec1  yep ;)
21:33 cait            would you agree changing it to circulation?
21:34 cait            holds_queue is there as well
21:34 cait            i can make a follow up if that's ok with you, just one word to change
21:35 josef_moravec1  yes, it was intended to be in circulation module
21:35 josef_moravec1  I probably made bad indentation in yaml file ;(
21:35 cait            never mind
21:35 wahanui         Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:35 cait            i am just seeing things
21:36 cait            looking silly here :)
21:36 cait            it's not you, it's me, I will figure it out
21:36 cait            i think the patch does work after all
21:36 josef_moravec1  no problem, I am glad you are testing it ;)
21:37 cait            i am totally out of practice it seems
21:38 cait            or it's just a little late, i hope it's that :)
21:42 josef_moravec1  thanks for your sign-offs cait!
21:42 cait            thx for the work :)
21:43 josef_moravec1  testing 17913, I have prepared one little followup, tests are passing, but still continuing on it....
21:46 talljoy         hi cait!
21:47 cait            hi talljoy :)
21:47 cait            bug 17913
21:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17913 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Merge three authority merge fixes
21:47 cait            josef_moravec1: thx a lot
21:50 talljoy         @later tell rangi apologies for the gitlab confusion- i'm trying to iron out this process so i can document it and get others involved.
21:50 huginn          talljoy: The operation succeeded.
21:51 talljoy         cait i managed to fork the manual and then delete it and send a variet of commits and merge requests.  i'm a hot mess when it comes to git
21:51 cait            you can only break stuff by actually trying to do something
21:52 cait            i am sure you will figure it out :)
21:52 talljoy         and breaking it helps me learn it, right?
21:52 cait            yep
21:52 talljoy         that's the plan at least!
21:52 talljoy         i think i was successful.  last merge request was approved by chris!
21:52 talljoy         progress.
21:52 wahanui         rumour has it progress is good
21:53 talljoy         indeed wahanui
21:54 * andreashm     waves
21:55 andreashm       hi tcohen
21:57 andreashm       tcohen: where in koha-conf.xml should I place the <dev-install> line specified in issue 168?
21:58 CrispyBran      what is issue 168?
22:00 cait            hm tcohen hm i have some problems running koha-rebuild-zebrea in my kohadevbox - have you seen that by chance? complains about the marcxml
22:00 CrispyBran      andreashm ^^^
22:01 tcohen          andreashm: inside the <config> section
22:01 tcohen          and it is <dev_install>/home/vagrant/kohaclone</dev_install>
22:01 tcohen          cait: blame Joubu and the marcxml column for that :-P
22:02 cait            so it is a bug and not something i am missing?
22:02 andreashm       thanks tcohen
22:03 andreashm       I also have problems with zebra in devbox
22:03 andreashm       but I though it was because of the dev_install thing
22:03 andreashm       CrispyBran: it's a problem with Kohadevbox
22:03 tcohen          the best is that you destroy and recreate the box
22:04 cait            eek
22:05 tcohen          cait: that was for andreashm
22:05 andreashm       aaargh
22:05 cait            oh good
22:05 tcohen          maybe, just maybe
22:05 andreashm       I just rebuilt it last week.
22:05 cait            sorry andreashm
22:05 josef_moravec1  cait: I done testing 17913, looks  good for me ;)
22:05 tcohen          you can do the cp_debian_files.pl step manually
22:05 andreashm       with quite a few issues actually. and takes forever to pull the git repository
22:05 andreashm       sigh...
22:05 cait            if you use a synced one, only have to pull it once
22:05 andreashm       cait: thanks! =)
22:05 tcohen          aren't you using SYNC_REPO?
22:06 andreashm       nope
22:06 andreashm       guess I should learn how that works. =)
22:06 cait            josef_moravec1: so i need all patches without version and then the 2 follow-ups?
22:07 tcohen          andreashm: git clone on your machine
22:08 tcohen          and set SYNC_REPO=the_clone_dir
22:08 tcohen          on your env
22:08 josef_moravec1  cait: you just need two last patches - which are marked with [16.11.x] prefix, Marcel did squashed them for stable versions... and I added one followup ;)
22:08 andreashm       tcohen: ah! thanks!
22:08 cait            thx for clearing that up!
22:08 cait            josef_moravec1++
22:09 josef_moravec1  cait: you are welcome ;)
22:09 cait            will be my first db updat
22:09 cait            eso probably pushing it on the weekend when my brain is less tired (hopefully)
22:12 andreashm       how do you change branch etc if you work with SYNC_REPO? In vagrant or at the git repo on the machine?
22:12 tcohen          its hte same
22:13 tcohen          you are working on the external dir, mounted inside using some networked filesystem
22:13 tcohen          it is faster outside
22:15 andreashm       brainmelt.
22:15 andreashm       =)
22:16 andreashm       Will try SYNC_REPO when it's time to destroy and start again.
22:16 josef_moravec1  cait: I believe you ;)
22:16 josef_moravec1  time to sleep
22:16 josef_moravec1  bye #koha
22:16 andreashm       bye
22:31 Francesca       so far every book on this last shelf has had to be manually cataloged
22:31 Francesca       which is slow
22:44 cait            cataloguing your perosnal library?
22:45 AdamB           /quit
22:45 Francesca       cataloging catalyst's library
22:46 cait            :)