Time  Nick            Message
00:00 alexbuckley_    thought?
00:00 wahanui         thought is, like, to have them check for stuff that academic libraries need so we can build a free national infrastructure
00:05 mtompset        Sorry... swapped screens for a bit.
00:06 mtompset        alexbuckley_: http://schema.koha-community.org/master/tables/issuingrules.html
00:06 mtompset        It's not onshelfholds.
00:06 mtompset        it is opacitemholds
00:06 mtompset        The field name is wrong.
00:06 mtompset        change it, and all should be good.
00:06 wahanui         mtompset: that doesn't look right
00:09 mtompset        oh wait...
00:09 mtompset        inspecting page.
00:09 mtompset        change your values.
00:09 wahanui         mtompset: that doesn't look right
00:09 mtompset        yes = 1
00:10 mtompset        0 is any unavailable
00:10 mtompset        2 if all available
00:10 mtompset        Simple fix.
00:12 mtompset        Here.. I'll push it up alexbuckley_
00:12 mtompset        -- after I test. :)
00:15 mtompset        YAY!
00:16 mtompset        alexbuckley_: Tonight is your lucky night.
00:17 mtompset        test my appended patch and sign off.
00:17 mtompset        I sign off everything.
00:17 mtompset        We set this sucker to signed off, and then get QA to look it over.
00:22 alexbuckley_    testing it now
00:27 mtompset        Dont forget to go check to make sure the rule you created matches your settings. :)
00:42 pastebot        "alexbuckley_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "This is the error when selecting a specific library" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/294
00:42 alexbuckley_    mtompset: When I select a library to apply the circ rule to I get the error above
00:47 mtompset        just a second...
00:50 mtompset        okay... I'm here to focus now, alexbuckley_
00:50 mtompset        Did you apply your 17955?
00:50 alexbuckley_    No so I'll do that now. As I thought I was just testing 17855
00:56 mtompset        I forgot to remove 17955 when testing.
00:57 alexbuckley_    Its looking promising with 17955 as well
00:58 mtompset        That's good to read
00:59 mtompset        Oh the suspense is killing me.
00:59 mtompset        Well?
01:01 mtompset        Oh, and if you are having issues. I also applied 17260. ;)
01:02 alexbuckley_    It works with 17855 and 17955 so I'll just attach the commit in 17955 to 17855
01:02 mtompset        That sounds fine to me.
01:02 mtompset        And if there are other things to still clean up, you can do that on 17955 still.
01:03 alexbuckley_    yup and I'll just sign off now
01:07 mtompset        Have you attached the signed off copies yet?
01:07 mtompset        I need to slap my electronic hancock on them too.
01:12 mtompset        alexbuckley_: Have you signed them off yet?
01:13 alexbuckley_    yup
01:20 mtompset        not quite.
01:20 mtompset        I just checked.
01:20 mtompset        you signed off yours.
01:20 mtompset        the last one.
01:20 wahanui         the last one is the first one if you look backwards.
01:20 mtompset        I'm assuming you have the so alias?
01:21 mtompset        git so 6
01:21 mtompset        git bz attach -e 17855 HEAD^^^^^^..HEAD
01:21 mtompset        Try again, alexbuckley_ :)
01:21 alexbuckley_    no I dont have so alias. But I'll do that second attach
01:22 alexbuckley_    this one: git bz attach -e 17855 HEAD^^^^^^..HEAD
01:22 mtompset        You don't?!
01:22 mtompset        Wait...
01:23 mtompset        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Signing_off_2
01:24 mtompset        You'll obviously need to edit the "Your name" and email parts. :)
01:26 mtompset        because the git rebase -i, changing them all to edit, and them git commit --amend so you can put signed off on them, git rebase --continue through all of them is a pain.
01:41 mtompset        Well, alexbuckley_?
01:41 wahanui         alexbuckley_ is using kohadevbox
01:41 * mtompset      laughs.
01:41 mtompset        Nice one, wahanui
01:41 wahanui         mtompset: what?
01:44 mtompset        alexbuckley_: Do you have any problems with my faking your sign off?
01:55 alexbuckley_    One moment I've got it now
01:57 mtompset        Let me check that...
01:58 mtompset        Thankfully the order didn't affect things.
01:58 mtompset        Now, I'll sign off.
01:59 alexbuckley_    Ive signed off your commit and my newest commit now
02:04 mtompset        Well, I think it is done.
02:09 mtompset        Congratulations, alexbuckley_! You've added a really useful part to Koha. :)
02:10 mtompset        Now we just need to bug QA folks to love it. ;)
02:12 alexbuckley_    thanks
02:17 mtompset        Hopefully I wasn't too much of a task master. :)
02:28 BobB            hi #koha
02:28 BobB            its my great pleasure to introduce Dilan Johnpulle to you all
02:29 BobB            Dilan will be working with Calyx whilst he completes his university studies
02:29 BobB            we hope to get him involved in sign-offs etc before too long
02:30 dilan           hi everyone
02:33 BobB            cool, so we'll see Dilan about
02:34 liz             Hi Dilan :)
02:34 dcook           Interesting... if you add a record with 952s, they show up in biblio_metadata, but if you mod a record with 952s, they'll be stripped
02:35 dilan           hi Liz
02:35 dcook           hey dilan
02:35 dcook           I'm in Australia too :D
02:36 BobB            Sydney even :)
02:36 dcook           Yeah!
02:36 dcook           Which uni are you at dilan?
02:36 dcook           Hmm, I'm not quite up-to-date with master, but I bet this is current..
02:37 dilan           I'm at UTS :)
02:37 dcook           Ah nice. Our office is just down the street from UTS :).
02:38 dcook           Glad to have another person in this timezone working on Koha
02:39 dilan           Haha
02:39 dilan           Really? Down in Ultimo then?
02:40 dcook           Yep :D
02:40 dcook           I actually met BobB in the USA though, as North Sydney is just too far to go :p
02:42 dcook           Hmm I wonder if Zebra is getting number the 952s then..
02:43 dcook           Or maybe errors because I put in a bogus 952..
02:44 BobB            dcook I once worked with a guy who boasted of not having crossed the harbour bridge for 7 years
02:44 BobB            but you should try it some time ....
02:44 dcook           In which direction? :p
02:44 dcook           Oh, I get over every now and again
02:44 BobB            not scary at all :)
02:44 dcook           Although it's been a while now I think
02:44 dcook           I actually quite like it on your side of the bridge
02:44 dcook           There's actually room to breathe :p
02:44 dcook           Reminds me more of North America
02:44 * dcook         means that as a compliment
02:45 liz             phew, I thought maybe you were going to say it was full of jerks.
02:45 BobB            nah, all good
02:47 mtompset        Greetings, dilan
02:48 * mtompset      chuckles as liz's remark.
02:48 mtompset        liz: Only south of the border. I'm Canadian, eh. ;)
02:48 liz             touche
02:59 alexbuckley_    mtompset: its good learning, just hope QA folks will look at it soon
03:00 mtompset        @later tell oleonard Sorry again.
03:00 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:07 mtompset        alexbuckley_: did you notice Joubu's comment on bug 17944?
03:07 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17944 minor, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Remove the sql code from itemtypes.pl administrative perl script
03:07 alexbuckley_    yup making the changes now
03:08 mtompset        Let me know when you have that... I'll take a look.
03:08 mtompset        Want to keep patches rolling. :)
03:09 alexbuckley_    yup
03:15 liz             mtompset++ alexbuckley_++
03:15 liz             good job fellas :D
03:15 mtompset        @karma mtompset
03:15 huginn          mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 38 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 38.
03:15 mtompset        @karma alexbuckley_
03:15 huginn          mtompset: Karma for "alexbuckley_" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
03:16 mtompset        @karma alexbuckley
03:16 huginn          mtompset: Karma for "alexbuckley" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
03:16 mtompset        @karma
03:16 huginn          mtompset: Highest karma: "cait" (424), "Joubu" (412), and "tcohen" (276).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-33), "ie" (-33), and "<-" (-27).  You (mtompset) are ranked 23 out of 678.
03:16 mtompset        Indeed, cait is awesome.
03:17 mtompset        And Joubu is a machine! :)
03:23 mtompset        Thank you, liz
03:23 mtompset        All the effort goes to alexbuckley_, though. Just me nagging about nitpicking details until it was just perfect. :)
03:25 alexbuckley_    thanks liz and mtompset
04:00 mtompset        Do we have a nice way to pop up failure messages?
04:01 mtompset        We are not currently checking the return value of store() in the smart-rules.
04:01 * dcook         was going to say something cynical but then realized that his wife is right about him being overly negative
04:01 mtompset        It's okay, your wife still loves you, even if you are cynical.
04:02 mtompset        I mean overly negative.
04:02 mtompset        Anyways... :)
04:02 mtompset        I was curious... what happens currently when we click save on a debian box for circulation rules with nothing entered?
04:06 dcook           I don't use debian for work so no idea
04:07 alexbuckley_    mtompset: I've attached a new commit with changes for 17944
04:12 mtompset        uh... I don't get the second block, alexbuckley_. Why? What was wrong with that code?
04:13 mtompset        Also, $_[1]... yuck. I prefer my ($self, $var) = @_;
04:14 mtompset        And last... Joubu was suggesting tests. Where are the tests? :)
04:15 rangi           the tests cant come
04:15 rangi           until we modularise the code
04:15 mtompset        alexbuckley_: He did modularize it.
04:15 rangi           in the new patches yes
04:15 mtompset        He put the function as a method in Koha::ItemTypes.
04:15 rangi           but lets just get this in first
04:16 rangi           before it scope creeps forever and never gets done
04:20 mtompset        okay, just commented on the part that doesn't make sense.
04:23 mtompset        alexbuckley_: I think you just needed to change it from ItemTypes to ItemType and leave it as a find.
04:24 alexbuckley_    yup ok I see where the mistake was made I'll fix that now
04:30 alexbuckley_    Right changed it ItemTypes->find
04:32 mtompset        singular, not plural, because you put the code in the singular.
04:33 mtompset        Can you remove the 's'?
04:33 mtompset        I'll sign off.:)
05:03 mtompset        There we go. I also squashed your three unsigned patches together.
05:04 mtompset        signed off, alexbuckley_  :)
05:05 alexbuckley_    good thanks
05:05 alexbuckley_    I'll head home now
05:06 alexbuckley_    see you tomorrow
05:14 mtompset        alexbuckley_++ # thanks for letting me have some sign offs. thanks for writing useful code. :)
05:41 mtompset        Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha rangi alexbuckley_ dcook wizzycray
07:20 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
08:06 drojf           morning #koha
08:06 sameeenz        gidday drojf
08:06 sameeenz        what's cracking?
08:07 LibraryClaire   moin drojf
08:22 * magnuse       waves
09:11 eythian         hi
09:16 drojf           hi eythian magnuse LibraryClaire sameeenz
09:18 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
09:18 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -0.5°C (10:01 AM CET on February 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
09:18 eythian         @wunder ams
09:18 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 2.0°C (10:10 AM CET on February 01, 2017). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
10:07 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
10:07 huginn          LibraryClaire: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
10:08 drojf           sorry, i took all the weather available for germany
10:18 eythian         LibraryClaire: yesterday you just had no weather conditions, today it's spread so that asking for the weather doesn't even make sense.
10:20 LibraryClaire   nothing makes sense anymore
10:21 * drojf         does
10:38 Joubu           drojf: did you see my question on bug 17111?
10:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17111 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , Automatic debian/control updates (oldstable/16.05.x)
10:38 Joubu           and hi #koha!
10:38 cait            hi Joubu
10:38 drojf           Joubu: no, will have a look
10:40 LibraryClaire   hi Joubu
10:43 magnuse         @wunder enbo
10:43 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 01, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
10:44 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
10:44 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 6.4°C (11:28 AM CET on February 01, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
10:45 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
10:45 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -0.1°C (11:23 AM CET on February 01, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
10:50 * LibraryClaire falls asleep
10:53 cait            hm
10:53 drojf           Joubu: my first guess is that file is obsolete, but i'll look a bit more into it
10:55 Joubu           drojf: yep, same for me. It seems the same for install_misc/*.packages
11:27 Joubu           @later tell tcohen you forgot to attach the follow-up on 13757!
11:27 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:41 drojf           @later tell tcohen do install_misc/ubuntu-packages.sh and the related .packages files still have a use case? it seems to me they're obsolete
11:41 huginn          drojf: The operation succeeded.
11:44 Joubu           @later tell tcohen Can I have your opinion on bug 18028 (remove install_misc dir)?
11:44 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:47 drojf           Joubu: we could change the file to just print a link to the latest install information ;)
11:48 Joubu           drojf: I have finally suggested to remove the whole install_misc dir
11:48 drojf           yes i know, i was referring to "yes it could be confusing as well to execute a file that does no longer exist"
11:49 Joubu           drojf: I'd prefer to remove the directory :)
11:50 drojf           works for me
12:03 Joubu           drojf: you PQAed 17111, mistake?
12:04 drojf           Joubu: no, i usually do that because it is just a generated file
12:04 drojf           normally the bot does the file and i just have a look
12:44 oleonard        Hi all
12:45 drojf           hi oleonard
12:45 wahanui         hi olé onard
12:46 LibraryClaire   hey oleonard
12:46 wahanui         well, oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:51 magnuse         ¡olé o'nard!
12:54 marcelr         hi #koha
13:01 oleonard        alexbuckley++ # for sticking it out through a lot of QA
13:03 magnuse         hm, i have a plugin (in the kpz sense) that receives some data from an external call, saves it in the db and displays it to users. the data looks good in the db, but when they are displayed in koha they have encoding issues. however, if i use a report to display the data they look ok. so... is that a problem with the plugin-system-code in koha or with my code in the plugin?
13:04 magnuse         yeah alexbuckley++
13:05 kidclamp        magnuse: yes
13:05 kidclamp        :-)
13:05 magnuse         cool, thanks ;-)
13:06 kidclamp        plugin on github? or viewable somewhere?
13:06 tcohen          morning
13:06 magnuse         kidclamp: https://github.com/Libriotech/koha-plugin-btj
13:07 magnuse         ¡hola tcohen!
13:08 kidclamp        is it character encoding magnuse?
13:08 tcohen          Joubu: I attached them to 13737 hahaha
13:08 magnuse         kidclamp: um, is what character encoding?
13:09 kidclamp        the display issue, no w I reread, yes :-)
13:09 magnuse         it looks like "Ines min själs älskade"
13:11 kidclamp        I think maybe you just need to add to the the print $cgi->header(); like in this commit to coverflow
13:11 kidclamp        https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-coverflow/commit/176224a37e0158206f5a77d3acb1ac283cd1a7db
13:13 magnuse         ah yes, definitely worth a try!
13:14 oleonard        tcohen: have you ever seen a problem vagrant where it always says "Run 'vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier' to speed up provisioning." even if you have vagrant-cachier installed?
13:16 magnuse         kidclamp++ thanks a ton, that fixed it!
13:16 kidclamp        np, knew it was familiar
13:18 tcohen          oleonard: nope
13:30 edveal          Hello
13:31 kidclamp        hi edveal
13:34 tcohen          kidclamp, magnuse what are you talking about?
13:35 magnuse         tcohen: my qyestion was: hm, i have a plugin (in the kpz sense) that receives some data from an external call, saves it in the db and displays it to users. the data looks good in the db, but when they are displayed in koha they have encoding issues. however, if i use a report to display the data they look ok. so... is that a problem with the plugin-system-code in koha or with my code in the plugin?
13:35 magnuse         kidclamp helped me figure out the problem was on my side
13:51 tcohen          yes, the problem is on your sige
13:51 tcohen          side
13:51 tcohen          he
14:05 thd             Is there a meeting shortly?
14:05 tcohen          nope
14:05 tcohen          ah, maybe
14:05 tcohen          wednesday
14:05 wahanui         rumour has it wednesday is fine for me
14:06 thd             https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_1_February_2017
14:08 kidclamp        ah, indeed, I have been focused on the Dev meetings and forgot the general
14:08 kidclamp        do we have a crowd?
14:09 schnydszch      here
14:10 schnydszch      sorting out some cards before the gen. meeting
14:10 kidclamp        who is here for meeting #koha?
14:10 Manny           I'm also here
14:12 Joubu           o/
14:12 kidclamp        alirght, maybe it will be short and there can be a folowup email to the lists
14:13 kidclamp        #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 February 2017
14:13 huginn          Meeting started Wed Feb  1 14:13:22 2017 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:13 huginn          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:13 huginn          The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_february_2017'
14:13 kidclamp        #topic Introductions
14:13 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
14:13 kidclamp        #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
14:13 schnydszch      #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines
14:14 thd             #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:14 tcohen          #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
14:14 Manny           #info Manny Tamayao Tulong Aklatan
14:15 * kidclamp      pokes Joubu
14:15 kidclamp        #topic Announcements
14:15 kidclamp        Open for anyone
14:15 drojf           #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
14:16 kidclamp        #topic Update on releases
14:16 kidclamp        Any maintainers around? Khall and cait seem to be away
14:17 barton          #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, Louisville KY USA
14:17 drojf           we had a security release for all maintained branches. rmaints, qa and packaging tried to get a simultaneous release and that went quite well
14:18 drojf           i htink none of them is here
14:18 drojf           think
14:18 kidclamp        #info Security patch pushed, coordinating across releases went well
14:18 kidclamp        #topic Kohacon
14:19 kidclamp        schnydszch: take it away
14:19 kidclamp        thanks drojf
14:19 schnydszch      so yeah we're here
14:19 magnuse         #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
14:19 schnydszch      to announce that the kohacon2017 website is now up
14:19 schnydszch      http://kohacon2017philippines.com/
14:20 schnydszch      call for presentations/papers here: http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/call-for-papers/
14:20 schnydszch      Deadline is March 15, 2017
14:20 kidclamp        #link http://kohacon2017philippines.com/ WEbsite for kohacon
14:20 schnydszch      Call for sponsors is still up: http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/sponsors/
14:20 talljoy         #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions
14:20 kidclamp        #link http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/call-for-papers/ Call for presentations
14:20 kidclamp        #link http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/sponsors/ Call for sponsors
14:21 schnydszch      here is the page for the Organizers and sponsors: http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/organizers-and-sponsors/
14:21 kidclamp        #link http://kohacon2017philippines.com/index.php/organizers-and-sponsors/ Organizers and sponsors
14:21 schnydszch      We still have two available slots for KOHAnep/major sponsors. :)
14:21 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart, France
14:22 schnydszch      Manny will discuss the venues for main conference and hackfest
14:22 kidclamp        #info Still two slots for major sponsors
14:23 Manny           The Hackfest will happen in a different venue
14:23 NateC           #info Nate Curulla BWS
14:24 rsantellan      good morning #koha
14:24 Manny           Asian Institute of Management is 700 meters away from the main Conference venue
14:24 schnydszch      here is the google maps: https://www.google.com.ph/maps/dir/Ayala+Museum,+Dela+Rosa+Street,+Makati,+Metro+Manila/AIM+Conference+Center,+Benavidez+Street,+Makati,+NCR/@14.5527189,121.0189486,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x3397c90546feae0d:0x4fbebf172a73bfe1!2m2!1d121.0233407!2d14.5533605!1m5!1m1!1s0x3397c911b0cae8a5:0xfab41f38cefd04cf!2m2!1d121.0185961!2d14.5517842
14:25 kidclamp        #info Hackfest will be in the Asian Institute of Management (700 m from conference site)
14:25 schnydszch      still in the same area, in Makati City
14:25 kidclamp        #link https://www.google.com.ph/maps/dir/Ayala+Museum,+Dela+Rosa+Street,+Makati,+Metro+Manila/AIM+Conference+Center,+Benavidez+Street,+Makati,+NCR/@14.5527189,121.0189486,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x3397c90546feae0d:0x4fbebf172a73bfe1!2m2!1d121.0233407!2d14.5533605!1m5!1m1!1s0x3397c911b0cae8a5:0xfab41f38cefd04cf!2m2!1d121.0185961!2d14.5517842 Venue info
14:25 kidclamp        anything more?
14:26 kidclamp        #topic Update: Marketing Group or Committee for spreading word about Koha
14:26 schnydszch      we'd like to ask previous organizers or the koha community on the projected bandwidth that can be used up during kohacon
14:26 schnydszch      sorry
14:26 kidclamp        np
14:27 kidclamp        I would send that out on the lists
14:27 kidclamp        schnydszch^
14:27 schnydszch      so please email the Koha organizers regarding this so we can give the data to the venue sponsor
14:27 NateC           Not much to report on the marketing front, i put in a press release for editing regarding Koha's performance in the Perceptions Survey
14:27 NateC           Koha did well
14:27 kidclamp        schnydszch - can you send that out on listserv
14:28 schnydszch      yep, we'll gonna send it, either me or Manny :)
14:28 kidclamp        #info Koha did well in the annual perceptions survey
14:28 Manny           We will
14:28 NateC           The conversation about putting a map on the community site showing who is on Koha died, there was a lot of backlash against the idea of using Marshall Breedings already existing map, so thats out, but no one came up with a better alternative so I guess we will do without
14:28 NateC           and thats about all
14:29 kidclamp        #link https://librarytechnology.org/perceptions/2016/ Perceptions Survey (Marshall Breeding)
14:29 kidclamp        #action Kohacon organizers will email lists about bandwidth usage at conference
14:29 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:29 cait            sorry, we had another meeting
14:29 kidclamp        np cait
14:30 kidclamp        want to give an update on 16.11?
14:30 LibraryClaire   #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany
14:30 kidclamp        thanks Manny schnydszch NateC
14:31 kidclamp        #topic Update on 16.11 (current release)
14:31 Manny           you're welcome kidclamp
14:31 Joubu           I have suggested an alternative
14:31 Joubu           for the map
14:31 kidclamp        cait:
14:31 Joubu           bug 17802
14:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , Hea - Add geolocation information
14:31 Joubu           nobody jumped in
14:31 cait            sorry, was reading back still
14:31 schnydszch      you're very much welcome kidclamp! :)
14:31 kidclamp        np
14:32 kidclamp        what do you need there Joubu, just feedback/opinion?
14:32 cait            16.11 just had a security release - still have to review some of the bugs that I asked feedback for
14:32 cait            but it's all on track
14:32 cait            I think :)
14:32 Joubu           kidclamp: yes
14:32 kidclamp        #info 16.11 is on track
14:32 cait            still 15th for string freeze and 22nd for release
14:33 kidclamp        #info string freeze on Feburary 15th, release on February 22nd
14:34 cait            thx kidclamp
14:34 kidclamp        #topic Request for comments on bug 17802
14:34 kidclamp        #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17802 Add geolocation to hea
14:35 huginn          04Bug 17802: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , Hea - Add geolocation information
14:35 kidclamp        #info please comment on the bug with support or questions
14:35 kidclamp        anyone else want to add to meeting?
14:36 kidclamp        last call :-)
14:36 thd             Yes
14:36 thd             Follow up from the December meeting.
14:37 thd             KohaCon18 wiki page is up and call for proposals has been announced on the mailing list.
14:37 thd             A couple weeks later than proposed as my time ran into leaving for ALA.
14:37 kidclamp        #topic KohaCon18
14:37 kidclamp        #info KohaCon18 wiki page is up and call for proposals has been announced on the mailing list.
14:38 kidclamp        #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon18_Proposals Call for proposals
14:38 kidclamp        thanks thd
14:38 kidclamp        and cait :-)
14:39 kidclamp        okay, last call again...
14:40 kidclamp        #topic Next meeting
14:40 caboose_        #info michaelcabus BWS princeton New Jersey
14:40 thd             1 March is also a Wed.
14:41 kidclamp        March 1, 20 UTC?
14:42 kidclamp        any opposed?
14:42 caboose_        sounds good
14:42 kidclamp        #info Next meeting, March 1, 20UTC
14:42 kidclamp        thanks all
14:42 kidclamp        #endmeeting
14:42 huginn          Meeting ended Wed Feb  1 14:42:44 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:42 huginn          Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_february_2017.2017-02-01-14.13.html
14:42 huginn          Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_february_2017.2017-02-01-14.13.txt
14:42 huginn          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2017/general_irc_meeting_1_february_2017.2017-02-01-14.13.log.html
14:43 LibraryClaire   kidclamp++
14:43 barton          nice expedicious meeting :-)
14:43 talljoy         :)
14:45 Manny           TY :)
14:47 magnuse         kidclamp++
14:48 tcohen          hi
14:48 wahanui         hi, tcohen
14:51 magnuse         hiya MKuhn
14:51 MKuhn           Hi Magnus, I'm a little late...
14:52 magnuse         yeah, the meeting just ended, if you wanted to be in time for that :-)
14:52 * magnuse       wanders off to make dinner
14:52 MKuhn           Well, yes, I almost thought so... have a good dinner! ;-)
15:08 oleonard        oh dang I missed a meeting because I was in a meeting :(
15:09 LibraryClaire   I missed most of it too, same reason
15:09 drojf           meetinception
15:13 drojf           later #koha
15:29 oleonard        tcohen: I'm having some Zebra trouble in my kohadevbox and I don't know what to do about it. Do you have a moment?
15:29 tcohen          shoot
15:30 kidclamp        don't shoot tcohen! at elast until he finished the rest endpoints, then you can
15:30 oleonard        I've started a new kohadevbox instance and loaded an existing Koha database. When I run "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f kohadev" nothing happens. No output at all.
15:31 tcohen          oleonard, can you try adding -a -b ¡
15:31 tcohen          sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -a -b -v kohadev
15:31 tcohen          ah
15:31 tcohen          marcelr
15:31 tcohen          ha
15:32 tcohen          sudo misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl
15:32 tcohen          and THEN
15:32 tcohen          you can sudo service koha-common restart
15:32 tcohen          and rebuild-zebra
15:35 tcohen          oleonard: ok?
15:35 tcohen          ah, and also
15:36 tcohen          add <dev_install>/home/vagrant/kohaclone</dev_install>
15:36 tcohen          to /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml
15:36 tcohen          sorry I was not aware of those upcoming changes on packages
15:37 tcohen          so I didn't fix that on kohadevbox in time for the change
15:40 oleonard        Ah cool, now it's looking like it's working.
15:40 tcohen          I'm really sorry :-(
15:47 oleonard        No problem, I'm just happy it's working (and that I didn't break something)
16:15 LibraryClaire   laters #koha
16:28 reiveune        bye
16:42 cait            tcohen: still here?
16:42 wahanui         here is where I work
16:44 cait            or maybe someone else knows - if you want to use koha-indexer instead of the every 5 minutes - how to activate it?
16:45 drojf           cait: it is on by default in recent versions. since 16.05 i think
16:45 drojf           otherwise there is a koha-indexer command
16:45 drojf           not sure when that came into koha
16:46 cait            drojf: looking for the bug that made it default
16:46 cait            so it's no longer dependent on the tamil index dep?
16:46 drojf           you may have to turn off the cron job manually if it is still on
16:46 cait            because bug 8773 mentions to install it manually
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, CLOSED FIXED, Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
16:47 cait            looking for a way in 3.22 actually
16:47 drojf           eythian packaged it
16:48 drojf           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8774
16:48 huginn          04Bug 8774: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, make a deb package of Koha::Contrib::Tamil::IndexerDaemon
16:49 cait            hand tomas pushed 8773 in 2014 - so should be in 3.22
16:49 drojf           do you have koha-indexer?
16:49 cait            can't check on the server
16:49 cait            looking for instructions to pass on to u.
16:50 drojf           ah
16:50 drojf           people without server access
16:50 drojf           :/
16:50 cait            was trying not to say that :)
16:50 cait            but i have repo access
16:50 cait            checking ther enow
16:51 drojf           git blame debian/scripts/koha-indexer or where that is
16:51 cait            i think we got it
16:51 drojf           i think you should
16:51 cait            it's in koha-common.defualt at least
16:51 cait            do i just have to say   20 USE_INDEXER_DAEMON="no" yes?
16:51 drojf           i think making it default was in 16.05. so it must have been around longer
16:51 cait            and then make sure the other cronjob is gone?
16:52 cait            yeah newer versions say 'yes'
16:52 drojf           koha-indexer --enable instance. i guess. wiki does not load for me
16:52 cait            oh nice
16:52 drojf           https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-indexer
16:53 cait            so just the cronjob sand that possibly?
16:53 drojf           turn it on, check fro the cronjob. that should be it
16:53 drojf           you will find out if it is not :P
16:54 drojf           ps aux | grep zebra should show the server and the indexer
16:54 drojf           ah no server access :P
16:54 cait            mean
16:54 drojf           u will manage
16:54 drojf           you or u
16:54 drojf           :D
16:54 cait            u
16:54 cait            heh
16:57 cait            so, activate using koha-indexer
16:58 cait            check it's running
16:58 cait            deactivate cron
16:58 cait            test
16:58 drojf           yes
16:58 cait            does the indexer start up automatically later on?
16:58 cait            in 16.05?
16:59 drojf           only for new installs, i suppose
16:59 cait            do we need to change it here? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/koha-common.default;h=66bc611424cca76a516079fe85e402ddbc16894b;hb=728f5a28571c051b3cf44ca406c0291442a71b37
17:00 drojf           that is only relevant when you create new instances
17:01 drojf           i think :P
17:01 gaetan_B        bye
17:02 drojf           don't know what onionshare is exactly but i want it in koha
17:02 drojf           lol
17:02 cait            ?
17:02 drojf           https://theintercept.com/2017/02/01/how-scientists-can-protect-their-data-from-the-trump-administration/
17:04 cait            oh
17:06 drojf           it's more a 1:1 thing i guess
17:06 barton          hey #koha, I just added a section to the SQL reports library detailing the values of 'user', 'action', 'objeect' and 'info' for action_logs: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#action_logs ... the table is very incomplete, and I'd love some input there.
17:07 cait            oh
17:07 cait            hadn't seen that https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Using_svc.2Fbarcode_in_reports
17:07 cait            sounds neat
17:08 barton          yeah, I've been addig goodies to that page :-)
17:08 cait            barton++
17:08 cait            hm what i don't quite understand
17:08 cait            it seems Brooke started tomove reports
17:09 cait            like holds
17:09 cait            but did not delete them from the main page?
17:09 cait            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Holds
17:09 cait            hm also looks like differently sorted
17:10 barton          right ... I think that we need to move things out of the sql reports library and leave a link.
17:10 cait            hm yeah
17:10 cait            and clear those duplicates
17:10 cait            i think most people missed the move out page, so possibly 2 versions of some reports now
17:11 cait            thee links to those pages are just above the toc
17:11 barton          oh, that's a shame -- I didn't even *see* those links.
17:12 cait            yep
17:12 cait            exactly
17:12 barton          I think that a couple of people, working together, could probalby fix everything in an afternoon.
17:12 cait            hm yeah maybe
17:13 cait            working together on separate pages :)
17:13 barton          right.
17:13 cait            but yeah, it's doable
17:13 cait            maybe start by deelting those that are the same on the moved-out pages?
17:13 cait            and then when all moved, delete heading
17:14 barton          the first thing we should do is move the links under their respective sections.
17:14 barton          ... I'll do that right now.
17:14 cait            maybe copy?
17:14 cait            i think for now... more is better
17:14 cait            until things are tidied
17:15 barton          fair 'nuff.
17:26 tcohen          koha-indexer is a handy way to call rebuild_zebra.pl -d
17:26 barton          cait: check out https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Holds -- I've done the same for patrons and circulation.
17:26 barton          the old links are still at the top.
17:30 cait            cool - barton++
17:38 barton          @later tell cait in case you haven't seen this, it's under 'Shared resources' on the front page of the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Shared_resources#Shared_Resources_And_Libraries
17:38 huginn          barton: The operation succeeded.
17:41 tmcmahon        On earlier versions of Koha, the dialog box for holds during a return had an option to cancel the hold.  Is that gone now or is there a setting I need to change to get it back?
17:54 oleonard        I think you are misremembering tmcmahon
17:55 oleonard        There is an option to cancel a hold if you're checking an item out to a patron and the item has a hold for another patron
18:07 tmcmahon        oleonard: I haven't used the feature in a while, but I remember using it before.  I had a co-worker point it out to me a couple days ago.
18:08 oleonard        tmcmahon: Which version of Koha?
18:08 wahanui         Which version of Koha are you using?
18:09 tmcmahon        16.11.02
18:13 tmcmahon        oleonard: Here's a patch where the button was renamed from "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commit/d9dc8be41780c3a4332f2fd50f80961d1653c49e
18:14 tmcmahon        I was looking for it in git history to see if I was misremembering.
18:15 oleonard        tmcmahon: That instance of the "cancel" button is still in Koha, but it only appears if you are confirming a hold which has already been marked waiting
18:15 oleonard        (I'm pretty sure, based on looking at the template)
18:19 tmcmahon        Thanks.  I'll check things again after lunch.
18:42 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
18:42 mtompset        @seen marcelr
18:42 huginn          mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 47 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi #koha
18:44 mtompset        @later tell marcelr What do you think of the tests I added on bug 17982? :)
18:44 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:51 tcohen          [off] mental note: undef $hash->{key} is not the same as delete $hash->{key}
18:51 tcohen          [off] bad day, evidently
18:54 mtompset        [off] Is that some code I wrote?
18:55 tcohen          [off] i wouldn't burn anyone publicly on that, this is all mine
18:55 mtompset        [off] Hey, if I write bad code, burn me all you want. Just don't burn me for poor style. :)
18:56 mtompset        Hey, tcohen I think I was playing with delete $hash->{key} while trying to get smart-rules to work nicely under Xenial.
18:57 tcohen          sorry, I can't blame me even if I now want to :-P
18:59 mtompset        :)
19:29 tmcmahon        Thanks oleonard.  I guess we were trying to cancel holds that weren't confirmed.  I'm surprised we didn't run into this before.
19:38 CrispyBran      Got a question for the room.  How does one cancel a hold for an item from Library A that is waiting at Library B without triggering a transfer, but still routes the item back to Library A when checked in at Library B?
19:40 CrispyBran      More specifically, how does one get Holds awaiting pickup to not apply a transfer when a hold is cancelled.  A transfer is not applied when the hold is cancelled at the item record itself.
19:42 mtompset        Greetings josef_moravec1
19:42 * mtompset      shrugs, "I don't know, CrispyBran." :(
19:44 mtompset        Glad to see you signed off bug 17942 josef_moravec1
19:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3
19:44 mtompset        oleonard++ # making installation pretty.
19:47 tcohen          later #koha
19:56 mtompset        josef_moravec1: Care to look at bug 17982
19:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17982 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Fix the use of uniq in sub themelanguage
20:13 josef_moravec1  mtompset: yes, I'll look at it
20:14 mtompset        Thanks. :)
20:14 mtompset        josef_moravec1++
20:34 josef_moravec1  mtompset: marcel was faster then me, I realize the same, see marcel's comments...
20:37 mtompset        Shoot.
20:37 mtompset        I forgot that fr-FR might not exist.
20:58 magnuse         kia ora dani
20:58 bag             magnuse: HI HI HI
20:58 magnuse         bag: knuckles knuckles knuckles
20:59 tmcmahon        Earlier today oleonard helped me figure out why I wasn't getting the "Cancel hold" button when I check in a reserve, but now that I'm getting the button, it's not working.
21:53 josef_moravec1  good night #koha ;)
22:00 rangi           this is handy https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Resizing_your_devbox
22:19 tcohen          hi
22:19 mtompset        Yes it is, rangi. :)
22:19 mtompset        Greetings, tcohen
22:20 tcohen          hi rangi
22:21 rangi           heya tcohen
22:25 wizzycray       hi
22:31 tcohen          hi wizzyrea
22:35 mtompset        Greetings, wizzycray -- What is up with the wizzycray nick?
22:36 wizzycray       I have IRC things that I need to sort out
22:36 wizzycray       and I've been too busy/stressed/lazy to do it
22:36 wizzycray       /not a priority
22:48 * mtompset      nods.
22:48 mtompset        Evening, alexbuckley
22:49 mtompset        Greetings, aleisha
22:49 alexbuckley_    hi mtompset
22:49 aleisha         hiya mtompset
22:49 * mtompset      sighs.
22:49 mtompset        Test::Mock::FileSystem is not easily installed. :(
22:50 tcohen          oops: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/grep.html
22:51 mtompset        oh man... perldoc is broken?
22:53 tcohen          you can always perldoc -f grep
22:53 tcohen          but hey
22:53 tcohen          perldoc is down!
22:53 tcohen          the same day gitlab got down
22:54 tcohen          laters #koha
22:54 dcook           later tcohen