Time  Nick            Message
23:59 alexbuckley_    so I can implement the equivalent of their query in for all libraries, patron categories and itemtypes into the onboarding.pl
23:57 alexbuckley_    in other words their code does not use onshelfholds
23:57 pastebot        "alexbuckley_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "onboarding.pl" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293
23:57 alexbuckley_    Whereas in my onboarding.pl I am doing
23:56 pastebot        "alexbuckley_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "smart-rules.pl" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/292
23:56 alexbuckley_    well I half understand I have looked at the smart-rules.pl script and where the user has selected all for item types it does the following insert
23:54 dcook           If you log it, you can add me to the CC
23:54 dcook           mtompset: Yeah, that's a tough one.
23:52 mtompset        Because the other fixes look great.
23:52 mtompset        Does that make sense, alexbuckley_ ?
23:51 mtompset        because that got me thinking it might be the wrong field.
23:51 mtompset        Which is why I mentioned "I was reading updatedatabase.pl around 3.19.00.017's update."
23:50 mtompset        but I'm totally going off my poor memory.
23:50 mtompset        Because I don't think it is the onshelfholds field... but opacitemshold field.
23:49 mtompset        He needs to take the logic from that code and put it into onboarding.
23:49 mtompset        Yes, yes you can add a rule in Xenial circ rules.
23:48 wizzycray       and is more to do with how the onshelfholds in the circ table happens.
23:48 wizzycray       my concern is that the problem isn't specific to the onboarding tool
23:47 mtompset        Let me check....
23:46 wizzycray       that isn't what I asked you
23:46 mtompset        wizzycray: Not in the onboarding tool.
23:46 wizzycray       without that error?
23:46 wizzycray       can you add circ rules generally in xenial?
23:46 mtompset        And I vaguely have notes written somewhere, but I figure if elastic search takes over as the search engine there is no point hunting forit.
23:45 mtompset        dcook: There is a parameter somewhere that elasticsearch uses that zebra call doesn't and it triggers a problem.
23:45 mtompset        and 17995 doesn't fix it either.
23:45 mtompset        wizzycray: No, it means 17855 doesn't do what it needs to do properly.
23:44 dcook           search engine ghost?
23:44 mtompset        dcook: There is a still a search engine ghost related to zebra I was pondering trying to debug.
23:44 wizzycray       mtompset, if that bug happens with or without the patch, isn't it a different bug?
23:44 dcook           Well, not given up entirely
23:44 mtompset        wizzycray: I'm not tracking where you are coming from.
23:43 * dcook         has given up on his warnings about Zebra
23:43 dcook           Nice one, mtompset. Good to see someone thinking ahead :D
23:43 wizzycray       then it's totally a different bug?
23:43 mtompset        alexbuckley_: The error I put in the comment is the same with and without 17955.
23:42 mtompset        Trying to get ahead of the curve.
23:42 mtompset        Because when Debian goes 5.7, it's going to be a nightmare.
23:42 mtompset        dcook: We're trying to fight through them to get 5.7 easy install on Xenial.
23:42 dcook           Seems like there's been a lot of database issues lately..
23:41 mtompset        alexbuckley_: Nope. The issue is that value="notavailable" (or whatever that string is) is NOT an integer.
23:41 alexbuckley_    table but as I said that column doesn't exist in that table. Do you get the same error when you apply 17955?
23:41 alexbuckley_    I think the issue is that the onshelfholds column is being referenced as being in the default_branch_circ_rules
23:40 mtompset        So, I'm back to an oldschool Xenial git install.
23:40 mtompset        For some reason the xenial kohadevbox is giving me mysql issues.
23:40 mtompset        dcook: I've been playing with installing Koha in Xenial.
23:39 mtompset        alexbuckley_++ # He's a trooper putting up with feedback.
23:39 dcook           It's been too long since I had troubles with strict mode, so I have nothing helpful to offer
23:39 * dcook         waves
23:39 mtompset        Greetings wizzycray dcook
23:39 * mtompset      shrugs.
23:38 mtompset        Perhaps he linked his mysql configuration in, which was strict mode?
23:38 * dcook         perks up
23:37 wizzycray       or at least that's how I read it
23:37 wizzycray       but he said "I have had troubles with mariadb"
23:37 mtompset        Because it still is non-strict mode.
23:37 wizzycray       I haven't seen any trouble with mariadb
23:36 mtompset        sjenson: The problem is MySQL 5.7 is in strict mode.
23:36 mtompset        Sorry, alexbuckley_
22:25 sjenson         I recently upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and while theoretically MariaDB works, I have had problems with it. Has anyone downgraded MySQL on Ubuntu 16.04 and made Koha work? If so which version works the best for Koha? 5.5?
19:06 LibraryClaire   cute :3
19:06 oleonard        thumbs-up-emoji.png
19:05 * tcohen        will write some REST endpoints for a cute new circ rules UI
19:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha-conf.xml
19:05 Guest1399       kyle: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be
19:05 Guest1399       Project Koha_Master_D8 build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/101/
19:04 * LibraryClaire slinks away quietly
19:04 * oleonard      grumbles about now wanting to redesign the circ and fine rules interface
18:22 oleonard        So it was still in the planning stages?
18:21 bag             not currently oleonard
18:21 oleonard        Any ByWater folks able to say whether there is existing code to build on for that feature?
18:20 * cait          waves
18:18 oleonard        Yay, I remembered something correctly!
18:18 oleonard        Ah, here it is: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Circulation_Rules_Interface_and_Backend_Revamp_RFC
18:11 oleonard        Wasn't pianohacker working on an overhaul of smart-rules.pl?
18:10 * oleonard      pictures some kind of nose-fro
18:05 kidclamp        Im out lf wax though wahanui - its bascially a disaster
18:05 wahanui         hmmm... kidclamp is rockin the stache
18:05 LibraryClaire   hey kidclamp
18:04 * kidclamp      waves
17:56 LibraryClaire   thanks wahanui
17:56 wahanui         oleonard is probably still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
17:56 LibraryClaire   hey oleonard
17:56 oleonard        Hi LibraryClaire sorry I missed you earlier
17:56 LibraryClaire   o/
17:55 tcohen          hi LibraryClaire
17:55 LibraryClaire   hi #koha
17:44 tcohen          Joubu: thanks!
17:44 Joubu           tcohen: yep, seen it. I have take a look tomorrow
17:43 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC'
17:43 tcohen          Joubu: I added the followup you requested on bug 13757
17:43 tcohen          hi
17:28 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af345984486a3e105c1e95111b885b7c907ca69a>
16:09 reiveune        bye
16:00 tcohen          marcelr, thanks for the email, I'll provide fixes
16:00 tcohen          later #koha, lunch time
16:00 marcelr         bye
15:59 LibraryClaire   laters #koha
15:10 marcelr         let you know if i find something..
15:09 marcelr         yeah but it should work without it ?
15:09 marcelr         i will have a look now
15:09 tcohen          marcelr: adding the dev_install entry fixed it
15:08 marcelr         ok
15:08 tcohen          https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/blob/master/koha-gitify
15:08 wahanui         it has been said that koha-gitify is https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
15:08 tcohen          but koha-gitify
15:08 tcohen          not kohadecbox
15:07 marcelr         in which kohadevbox script should i have a look?
15:06 marcelr         well thats the topic :)
15:05 tcohen          besides gitifying the koha instance
15:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17049 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improve PERL5LIB handling for packaged dev install (follow-up for 16733)
15:05 marcelr         but if you are changing perl5lib, bug 17049 might be needed
15:05 wahanui         nothing really is, like, impossible... right? :)
15:05 tcohen          nothing really
15:05 marcelr         im not sure what you are doing in kohadevbox behind the scenes
15:04 tcohen          they just die silently
15:03 tcohen          it won't start plack. and commands don't work
15:03 tcohen          but if you create a new kohadevbox (out-of-the-box)
15:03 marcelr         look at 17049 possibly
15:03 tcohen          marcelr: I'll re-check
15:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs)
15:03 cait            bug 16733
15:02 marcelr         16733
15:02 marcelr         devbox and the pushed dev install bug
15:02 tcohen          marcelr: what are you talking about?
14:59 mtompset        Greetings, marcelr
14:59 marcelr         hi mtompset
14:59 mtompset        Anyone familiar with why mysql fails to start under xenial? I tweaked some apparmor config and got it further, but can't get it to start.
14:59 marcelr         tcohen: what is the exact problem?
14:58 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
14:53 cait            but not sue why you don't get anything with -v :(
14:52 cait            hm zebra
14:52 cait            oleonard: switching from ElasticSearch to Koha
14:52 Joubu           Hola tcohen
14:52 tcohen          hi Joubu
14:51 huginn          Joubu: tcohen was last seen in #koha 17 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen Joubu
14:51 Joubu           @seen tcohen
14:51 huginn          tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Joubu> we use "a depends on b" when the code from 'a' is using the code from b
14:51 tcohen          @seen Joubu
14:51 tcohen          hi LibraryClaire
14:49 LibraryClaire   hola tcohen
14:49 tcohen          bonjour
14:46 oleonard        cait: What do you do?
14:45 cait            that usually does it for me
14:45 cait            oleonard: did you switch searchengine?
14:45 oleonard        Upgrading Virtualbox has messed everything up
14:44 LibraryClaire   sorry, my experiences of making devbox do things usually involve looking at it and it imploding :(
14:41 oleonard        Does anyone have any suggestions?
14:39 oleonard        Zebra's not working in my kohadevbox and I can't figure out why. Searches failing. Restarted everything. Running "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v kohadev" does nothing -- no output at all.
14:38 cait            running out of memory?
14:33 LibraryClaire   I guess only half of Germany can exist at once
14:33 drojf           by #koha
14:33 LibraryClaire   oh man
14:32 huginn          LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found.
14:32 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
14:27 eythian         I always thought Germany was a myth.
14:26 drojf           back to existence
14:26 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 0.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
14:26 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
13:34 edveal          Hello
13:24 eythian         kamelåså!
13:21 magnuse         kamelåså
13:20 drojf           heh i know that
13:19 magnuse         ah, a classic
13:18 eythian         magnuse: funnily enough, the recommended video following that for me was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
13:17 eythian         magnuse: heh
13:17 drojf           errr
13:17 marcelr         magnuse: :)
13:17 magnuse         or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwZNuwAK-dc
13:16 magnuse         s/drojf/marcelr/
13:16 huginn          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
13:16 marcelr         @later tell tcohen "need the fix of bug 17049?"
13:15 magnuse         eythian, drojf: seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwxE7Ky5hs
13:14 eythian         (but, I think it's better than after work when I'm mentally tired already.)
13:14 marcelr         eythian: no kidding :)
13:14 cait            ouch
13:14 eythian         marcelr: you'll be happy to know that my Dutch lessons have resumed. At 8am. It's not a very humane time.
13:14 magnuse         cait++
13:12 cait            the library the item is from could make sense for circ control
13:12 cait            i'd experiment with those
13:12 cait            ah yeah
13:12 wahanui         i think CircControl is set to...
13:12 magnuse         cait: how about CircControl?
13:11 LibraryClaire   >:)
13:11 cait            hi marcelr :)
13:11 marcelr         ok
13:11 wahanui         well, LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed
13:11 marcelr         and LibraryClaire
13:11 marcelr         hi drojf and cait
13:11 cait            looking at a 3.22
13:11 cait            and ReserveControlBranch - but that might no logner exist in newer versions
13:11 LibraryClaire   hi marcelr
13:11 drojf           hi marcelr
13:11 cait            oh
13:11 marcelr         hi #koha
13:10 cait            maybe if you test with HomeOrHoldingBranch set to 'home library'?
13:10 cait            nah, holds are a bit of a blind spot
13:10 magnuse         german grundlichkeit
13:10 * magnuse       thinks cait knows everything there is to know about koha
13:10 cait            maybe it's a combination about homeorholdingbranch and circ rules to allow that?
13:09 cait            hm
13:09 magnuse         <asgeirr> said: Hi. Is it possible to limit reservations by homebranch? So that all items that have a particular branch as homebranch cannot be reserved?
13:09 cait            probably not :)
13:08 cait            hm??
13:08 magnuse         cait would know ;-)
13:08 magnuse         asgeirr: ah, i'm confused now - not absolutely certain how it works...
13:08 * cait          waves
13:05 eythian         oleonard: I prefer "Hyena Ti"
13:00 wahanui         hi oleopard
13:00 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard
12:57 oleonard        Hi, uh.... Yeah Nit?
12:55 wahanui         hi dear loon
12:55 eythian         hi oleonard
12:52 wahanui         hi olé onard
12:52 drojf           hi oleonard
12:52 oleonard        Hi all
12:30 huginn          asgeirr: downloading the Perl source
12:30 asgeirr         @magnuse i thought that affected reservations made by that branch, not items with that homebranch
12:16 magnuse         bbiab
12:16 magnuse         and i do want a "proper" dev install for demoing some dev work, to avoid any gitified problems
12:15 magnuse         no yelling so far
12:10 eythian         (pretty sure they yell at you if that's not enabled.)
12:10 eythian         you should be using the packages :)
12:09 magnuse         "sudo a2enmod cgi" took care of that
12:06 magnuse         ...and now it shows the perl source , not the generated html. yay!
12:06 magnuse         eythian: not too interesting this time, but it was a missing "Require all granted"
12:04 eythian         403 should usually be logged.
12:03 eythian         check the logs.
12:01 * magnuse       tries to remember what the most likely cause of a 403 on a dev install was
12:00 magnuse         asgeirr: in "Circulation and fines rules" you can choose a specific library, then create a rule for all patron categories and all item types, and set "Holds allowed (count)" = 0?
11:59 magnuse         \o/
11:58 drojf           magnuse: we don't exist
11:57 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
11:57 magnuse         @wunder enbo
11:54 LibraryClaire   the moisture falling from the sky suggests otherwise
11:54 eythian         You are free of weather
11:54 eythian         there are no conditions.
11:48 LibraryClaire   conditions: .
11:48 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 7.4°C (12:41 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
11:48 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
11:48 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.0°C (12:25 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
11:48 eythian         @wunder ams
11:46 drojf           :(
11:46 huginn          drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
11:45 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
11:35 asgeirr         Hi. Is it possible to limit reservations by homebranch? So that all items that have a particular branch as homebranch cannot be reserved?
10:54 vfernandes      after looking to the code, the answer to me is "No, Koha don't support configurable search facets" :/
10:51 magnuse         have to look more at that after lunch, then
10:47 magnuse         gah, i have forgotten how to set up a dev install
10:47 magnuse         there have been 3 mails so far, i think
10:47 magnuse         not yet :-)
10:45 * cait          pondres
10:45 cait            is it very busy?
10:44 magnuse         (i'm definitely on there, i'm getting mails from the list :-)
10:44 magnuse         i was more thinking about asking the opl people if they would like to sign up
10:44 khall           ah, cool : )
10:43 magnuse         i'm already on there, i think :-)
10:43 khall           there is not, would you like me to add you magnuse?
10:43 magnuse         khall: do you know if there is a public sign-up page and/or archive for the rdf list?
10:42 vfernandes      one question: it's possible to configure OPAC search filters/facets?
10:41 vfernandes      hi #koha
10:37 cait            Joubu++
10:36 wahanui         hello, eythian
10:36 eythian         hi
10:31 drojf           mtj: thanks for testing!
10:31 mtj             drojf: pkg works as expected
10:24 drojf           mtj: yay
10:24 mtj             drojf: just trying 16.5.9 now on devbox  now...
10:22 cait            i guess someone moderates tonight and then there will be 3 emails... but I wanted it show up NOW :)
10:22 cait            :)
10:18 * mtj           sets email font to comic-sans
10:10 drojf           html_mail--
10:08 cait            hah- that was it. the non-html mail got through on koha now
10:06 drojf           *to
10:06 drojf           has anybody upgraded 16.05.09 yet?
10:04 cait            at home it's all set up not to do html
10:03 cait            mtj: it hink I sahre the shame wit this webmail
10:02 drojf           heh
10:01 mtj             ohh the shame
10:01 mtj             gah, my thunderbird profile crashed a few days ago - i just noticed its now emailing html as default
09:59 mtj             ah yes thanks Joubu
09:55 Joubu           we use "a depends on b" when the code from 'a' is using the code from b
09:54 Joubu           mtj: dep between 17986 and 17880 was correct
09:26 cait            pm :)
09:25 jajm            cait, yes
09:24 cait            jajm: around?
08:53 drojf           night bag
08:53 LibraryClaire   goodnight bag
08:53 bag             ok night night all
08:52 huginn          bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
08:52 bag             bag--
08:52 bag             bag—
08:52 bag             try the karma negative thing and you will
08:52 drojf           i do, because i am special
08:52 LibraryClaire   you can get pms from wahanui?
08:52 drojf           bag: i have to inform you that you are not a 4-letter station code
08:51 drojf           heh. i meant that as a name, not a command, but thanks for the pm wahanui
08:51 bag             it’s all in the bag …
08:51 drojf           weather bag
08:51 drojf           bag: thanks!
08:50 bag             drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is right at the freezing level
08:47 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is 0.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:47 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
08:46 cait            :)
08:44 drojf           cait: huginn keeps telling me ping
08:44 drojf           back
08:39 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
08:39 cait            @later tell drojf ping
08:39 huginn          cait: downloading the Perl source
08:39 cait            @later ping drojf
08:32 wahanui         kia ora, gaetan_B
08:32 gaetan_B        hello
08:31 magnuse         drojf++
08:31 magnuse         bag: knuckles!
08:31 bag             magnuse: HI
08:24 drojf           upload of 16.05.09 done. later #koha
08:23 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:23 magnuse         @wunder enbo
08:22 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:22 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:22 * magnuse       has fresh snow
08:20 LibraryClaire   salut reiveune
08:20 wahanui         bidet, reiveune
08:20 reiveune        hello
08:17 LibraryClaire   moin drojf
08:17 drojf           i guess it will be the same here later
08:17 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
08:16 LibraryClaire   our snow has all gone, the rain melted it
08:16 drojf           nobody told me there is a lot of snow outside
08:15 wahanui         privet, alex_a
08:15 alex_a          hello
08:14 bag             heya Joubu
08:12 LibraryClaire   Joubu!
08:12 Joubu           hi #koha
08:11 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
08:11 cait            @later tell drojf ping
08:09 * cait          waves
07:58 LibraryClaire   I didn't have to put the heating on high last night for the first time in ages :D
07:58 bag             LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is not enough rain
07:58 LibraryClaire   :))
07:57 bag             LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is too warm for you
07:57 LibraryClaire   I have never been so pleased to have some rain
07:57 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 7.7°C (8:29 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:57 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
07:57 LibraryClaire   hey bag
07:56 bag             no more snow please huginn
07:56 huginn          bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 4.4°C (11:53 PM PST on January 30, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM PST Wednesday... 
07:56 bag             @wunder pdx
07:55 bag             hiya
07:40 mtj             hiya cait, ping ping
07:24 cait            meh
07:23 drojf           cait: email
07:23 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:23 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:05 LibraryClaire   hei magnuse
07:00 * magnuse       waves
06:54 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
06:17 drojf           morning #koha