Time Nick Message 06:17 drojf morning #koha 06:54 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:00 * magnuse waves 07:05 LibraryClaire hei magnuse 07:23 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 07:23 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:23 drojf cait: email 07:24 cait meh 07:40 mtj hiya cait, ping ping 07:55 bag hiya 07:56 bag @wunder pdx 07:56 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 4.4°C (11:53 PM PST on January 30, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM PST Wednesday... 07:56 bag no more snow please huginn 07:57 LibraryClaire hey bag 07:57 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:57 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 7.7°C (8:29 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 07:57 LibraryClaire I have never been so pleased to have some rain 07:57 bag LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is too warm for you 07:58 LibraryClaire :)) 07:58 bag LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is not enough rain 07:58 LibraryClaire I didn't have to put the heating on high last night for the first time in ages :D 08:09 * cait waves 08:11 cait @later tell drojf ping 08:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:12 Joubu hi #koha 08:12 LibraryClaire Joubu! 08:14 bag heya Joubu 08:15 alex_a hello 08:15 wahanui privet, alex_a 08:16 drojf nobody told me there is a lot of snow outside 08:16 LibraryClaire our snow has all gone, the rain melted it 08:17 drojf hi LibraryClaire 08:17 drojf i guess it will be the same here later 08:17 LibraryClaire moin drojf 08:20 reiveune hello 08:20 wahanui bidet, reiveune 08:20 LibraryClaire salut reiveune 08:22 * magnuse has fresh snow 08:22 magnuse @wunder boo 08:22 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:23 magnuse @wunder enbo 08:23 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 08:24 drojf upload of 16.05.09 done. later #koha 08:31 bag magnuse: HI 08:31 magnuse bag: knuckles! 08:31 magnuse drojf++ 08:32 gaetan_B hello 08:32 wahanui kia ora, gaetan_B 08:39 cait @later ping drojf 08:39 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source 08:39 cait @later tell drojf ping 08:39 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:44 drojf back 08:44 drojf cait: huginn keeps telling me ping 08:46 cait :) 08:47 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:47 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is 0.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 08:50 bag drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is right at the freezing level 08:51 drojf bag: thanks! 08:51 drojf weather bag 08:51 bag it’s all in the bag … 08:51 drojf heh. i meant that as a name, not a command, but thanks for the pm wahanui 08:52 drojf bag: i have to inform you that you are not a 4-letter station code 08:52 LibraryClaire you can get pms from wahanui? 08:52 drojf i do, because i am special 08:52 bag try the karma negative thing and you will 08:52 bag bag— 08:52 bag bag-- 08:52 huginn bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 08:53 bag ok night night all 08:53 LibraryClaire goodnight bag 08:53 drojf night bag 09:24 cait jajm: around? 09:25 jajm cait, yes 09:26 cait pm :) 09:54 Joubu mtj: dep between 17986 and 17880 was correct 09:55 Joubu we use "a depends on b" when the code from 'a' is using the code from b 09:59 mtj ah yes thanks Joubu 10:01 mtj gah, my thunderbird profile crashed a few days ago - i just noticed its now emailing html as default 10:01 mtj ohh the shame 10:02 drojf heh 10:03 cait mtj: it hink I sahre the shame wit this webmail 10:04 cait at home it's all set up not to do html 10:06 drojf has anybody upgraded 16.05.09 yet? 10:06 drojf *to 10:08 cait hah- that was it. the non-html mail got through on koha now 10:10 drojf html_mail-- 10:18 * mtj sets email font to comic-sans 10:22 cait :) 10:22 cait i guess someone moderates tonight and then there will be 3 emails... but I wanted it show up NOW :) 10:24 mtj drojf: just trying 16.5.9 now on devbox now... 10:24 drojf mtj: yay 10:31 mtj drojf: pkg works as expected 10:31 drojf mtj: thanks for testing! 10:36 eythian hi 10:36 wahanui hello, eythian 10:37 cait Joubu++ 10:41 vfernandes hi #koha 10:42 vfernandes one question: it's possible to configure OPAC search filters/facets? 10:43 magnuse khall: do you know if there is a public sign-up page and/or archive for the rdf list? 10:43 khall there is not, would you like me to add you magnuse? 10:43 magnuse i'm already on there, i think :-) 10:44 khall ah, cool : ) 10:44 magnuse i was more thinking about asking the opl people if they would like to sign up 10:44 magnuse (i'm definitely on there, i'm getting mails from the list :-) 10:45 cait is it very busy? 10:45 * cait pondres 10:47 magnuse not yet :-) 10:47 magnuse there have been 3 mails so far, i think 10:47 magnuse gah, i have forgotten how to set up a dev install 10:51 magnuse have to look more at that after lunch, then 10:54 vfernandes after looking to the code, the answer to me is "No, Koha don't support configurable search facets" :/ 11:35 asgeirr Hi. Is it possible to limit reservations by homebranch? So that all items that have a particular branch as homebranch cannot be reserved? 11:45 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 11:46 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found. 11:46 drojf :( 11:48 eythian @wunder ams 11:48 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.0°C (12:25 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 11:48 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 11:48 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 7.4°C (12:41 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). 11:48 LibraryClaire conditions: . 11:54 eythian there are no conditions. 11:54 eythian You are free of weather 11:54 LibraryClaire the moisture falling from the sky suggests otherwise 11:57 magnuse @wunder enbo 11:57 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 11:58 drojf magnuse: we don't exist 11:59 magnuse \o/ 12:00 magnuse asgeirr: in "Circulation and fines rules" you can choose a specific library, then create a rule for all patron categories and all item types, and set "Holds allowed (count)" = 0? 12:01 * magnuse tries to remember what the most likely cause of a 403 on a dev install was 12:03 eythian check the logs. 12:04 eythian 403 should usually be logged. 12:06 magnuse eythian: not too interesting this time, but it was a missing "Require all granted" 12:06 magnuse ...and now it shows the perl source , not the generated html. yay! 12:09 magnuse "sudo a2enmod cgi" took care of that 12:10 eythian you should be using the packages :) 12:10 eythian (pretty sure they yell at you if that's not enabled.) 12:15 magnuse no yelling so far 12:16 magnuse and i do want a "proper" dev install for demoing some dev work, to avoid any gitified problems 12:16 magnuse bbiab 12:30 asgeirr @magnuse i thought that affected reservations made by that branch, not items with that homebranch 12:30 huginn asgeirr: downloading the Perl source 12:52 oleonard Hi all 12:52 drojf hi oleonard 12:52 wahanui hi olé onard 12:55 eythian hi oleonard 12:55 wahanui hi dear loon 12:57 oleonard Hi, uh.... Yeah Nit? 13:00 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 13:00 wahanui hi oleopard 13:05 eythian oleonard: I prefer "Hyena Ti" 13:08 * cait waves 13:08 magnuse asgeirr: ah, i'm confused now - not absolutely certain how it works... 13:08 magnuse cait would know ;-) 13:08 cait hm?? 13:09 cait probably not :) 13:09 magnuse <asgeirr> said: Hi. Is it possible to limit reservations by homebranch? So that all items that have a particular branch as homebranch cannot be reserved? 13:09 cait hm 13:10 cait maybe it's a combination about homeorholdingbranch and circ rules to allow that? 13:10 * magnuse thinks cait knows everything there is to know about koha 13:10 magnuse german grundlichkeit 13:10 cait nah, holds are a bit of a blind spot 13:10 cait maybe if you test with HomeOrHoldingBranch set to 'home library'? 13:11 marcelr hi #koha 13:11 cait oh 13:11 drojf hi marcelr 13:11 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 13:11 cait and ReserveControlBranch - but that might no logner exist in newer versions 13:11 cait looking at a 3.22 13:11 marcelr hi drojf and cait 13:11 marcelr and LibraryClaire 13:11 wahanui well, LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed 13:11 marcelr ok 13:11 cait hi marcelr :) 13:11 LibraryClaire >:) 13:12 magnuse cait: how about CircControl? 13:12 wahanui i think CircControl is set to... 13:12 cait ah yeah 13:12 cait i'd experiment with those 13:12 cait the library the item is from could make sense for circ control 13:14 magnuse cait++ 13:14 eythian marcelr: you'll be happy to know that my Dutch lessons have resumed. At 8am. It's not a very humane time. 13:14 cait ouch 13:14 marcelr eythian: no kidding :) 13:14 eythian (but, I think it's better than after work when I'm mentally tired already.) 13:15 magnuse eythian, drojf: seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwxE7Ky5hs 13:16 marcelr @later tell tcohen "need the fix of bug 17049?" 13:16 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 13:16 magnuse s/drojf/marcelr/ 13:17 magnuse or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwZNuwAK-dc 13:17 marcelr magnuse: :) 13:17 drojf errr 13:17 eythian magnuse: heh 13:18 eythian magnuse: funnily enough, the recommended video following that for me was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk 13:19 magnuse ah, a classic 13:20 drojf heh i know that 13:21 magnuse kamelÃ¥sÃ¥ 13:24 eythian kamelÃ¥sÃ¥! 13:34 edveal Hello 14:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 14:26 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 0.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 31, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 14:26 drojf back to existence 14:27 eythian I always thought Germany was a myth. 14:32 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 14:32 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found. 14:33 LibraryClaire oh man 14:33 drojf by #koha 14:33 LibraryClaire I guess only half of Germany can exist at once 14:38 cait running out of memory? 14:39 oleonard Zebra's not working in my kohadevbox and I can't figure out why. Searches failing. Restarted everything. Running "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v kohadev" does nothing -- no output at all. 14:41 oleonard Does anyone have any suggestions? 14:44 LibraryClaire sorry, my experiences of making devbox do things usually involve looking at it and it imploding :( 14:45 oleonard Upgrading Virtualbox has messed everything up 14:45 cait oleonard: did you switch searchengine? 14:45 cait that usually does it for me 14:46 oleonard cait: What do you do? 14:49 tcohen bonjour 14:49 LibraryClaire hola tcohen 14:51 tcohen hi LibraryClaire 14:51 tcohen @seen Joubu 14:51 huginn tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Joubu> we use "a depends on b" when the code from 'a' is using the code from b 14:51 Joubu @seen tcohen 14:51 huginn Joubu: tcohen was last seen in #koha 17 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen Joubu 14:52 tcohen hi Joubu 14:52 Joubu Hola tcohen 14:52 cait oleonard: switching from ElasticSearch to Koha 14:52 cait hm zebra 14:53 cait but not sue why you don't get anything with -v :( 14:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:59 marcelr tcohen: what is the exact problem? 14:59 mtompset Anyone familiar with why mysql fails to start under xenial? I tweaked some apparmor config and got it further, but can't get it to start. 14:59 marcelr hi mtompset 14:59 mtompset Greetings, marcelr 15:02 tcohen marcelr: what are you talking about? 15:02 marcelr devbox and the pushed dev install bug 15:02 marcelr 16733 15:03 cait bug 16733 15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs) 15:03 tcohen marcelr: I'll re-check 15:03 marcelr look at 17049 possibly 15:03 tcohen but if you create a new kohadevbox (out-of-the-box) 15:03 tcohen it won't start plack. and commands don't work 15:04 tcohen they just die silently 15:05 marcelr im not sure what you are doing in kohadevbox behind the scenes 15:05 tcohen nothing really 15:05 wahanui nothing really is, like, impossible... right? :) 15:05 marcelr but if you are changing perl5lib, bug 17049 might be needed 15:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17049 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improve PERL5LIB handling for packaged dev install (follow-up for 16733) 15:05 tcohen besides gitifying the koha instance 15:06 marcelr well thats the topic :) 15:07 marcelr in which kohadevbox script should i have a look? 15:08 tcohen not kohadecbox 15:08 tcohen but koha-gitify 15:08 wahanui it has been said that koha-gitify is https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify 15:08 tcohen https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/blob/master/koha-gitify 15:08 marcelr ok 15:09 tcohen marcelr: adding the dev_install entry fixed it 15:09 marcelr i will have a look now 15:09 marcelr yeah but it should work without it ? 15:10 marcelr let you know if i find something.. 15:59 LibraryClaire laters #koha 16:00 marcelr bye 16:00 tcohen later #koha, lunch time 16:00 tcohen marcelr, thanks for the email, I'll provide fixes 16:09 reiveune bye 17:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af345984486a3e105c1e95111b885b7c907ca69a> 17:43 tcohen hi 17:43 tcohen Joubu: I added the followup you requested on bug 13757 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC' 17:44 Joubu tcohen: yep, seen it. I have take a look tomorrow 17:44 tcohen Joubu: thanks! 17:55 LibraryClaire hi #koha 17:55 tcohen hi LibraryClaire 17:56 LibraryClaire o/ 17:56 oleonard Hi LibraryClaire sorry I missed you earlier 17:56 LibraryClaire hey oleonard 17:56 wahanui oleonard is probably still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 17:56 LibraryClaire thanks wahanui 18:04 * kidclamp waves 18:05 LibraryClaire hey kidclamp 18:05 wahanui hmmm... kidclamp is rockin the stache 18:05 kidclamp Im out lf wax though wahanui - its bascially a disaster 18:10 * oleonard pictures some kind of nose-fro 18:11 oleonard Wasn't pianohacker working on an overhaul of smart-rules.pl? 18:18 oleonard Ah, here it is: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Circulation_Rules_Interface_and_Backend_Revamp_RFC 18:18 oleonard Yay, I remembered something correctly! 18:20 * cait waves 18:21 oleonard Any ByWater folks able to say whether there is existing code to build on for that feature? 18:21 bag not currently oleonard 18:22 oleonard So it was still in the planning stages? 19:04 * oleonard grumbles about now wanting to redesign the circ and fine rules interface 19:04 * LibraryClaire slinks away quietly 19:05 Guest1399 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/101/ 19:05 Guest1399 kyle: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha-conf.xml 19:05 * tcohen will write some REST endpoints for a cute new circ rules UI 19:06 oleonard thumbs-up-emoji.png 19:06 LibraryClaire cute :3 22:25 sjenson I recently upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and while theoretically MariaDB works, I have had problems with it. Has anyone downgraded MySQL on Ubuntu 16.04 and made Koha work? If so which version works the best for Koha? 5.5? 23:36 mtompset Sorry, alexbuckley_ 23:36 mtompset sjenson: The problem is MySQL 5.7 is in strict mode. 23:37 wizzycray I haven't seen any trouble with mariadb 23:37 mtompset Because it still is non-strict mode. 23:37 wizzycray but he said "I have had troubles with mariadb" 23:37 wizzycray or at least that's how I read it 23:38 * dcook perks up 23:38 mtompset Perhaps he linked his mysql configuration in, which was strict mode? 23:39 * mtompset shrugs. 23:39 mtompset Greetings wizzycray dcook 23:39 * dcook waves 23:39 dcook It's been too long since I had troubles with strict mode, so I have nothing helpful to offer 23:39 mtompset alexbuckley_++ # He's a trooper putting up with feedback. 23:40 mtompset dcook: I've been playing with installing Koha in Xenial. 23:40 mtompset For some reason the xenial kohadevbox is giving me mysql issues. 23:40 mtompset So, I'm back to an oldschool Xenial git install. 23:41 alexbuckley_ I think the issue is that the onshelfholds column is being referenced as being in the default_branch_circ_rules 23:41 alexbuckley_ table but as I said that column doesn't exist in that table. Do you get the same error when you apply 17955? 23:41 mtompset alexbuckley_: Nope. The issue is that value="notavailable" (or whatever that string is) is NOT an integer. 23:42 dcook Seems like there's been a lot of database issues lately.. 23:42 mtompset dcook: We're trying to fight through them to get 5.7 easy install on Xenial. 23:42 mtompset Because when Debian goes 5.7, it's going to be a nightmare. 23:42 mtompset Trying to get ahead of the curve. 23:43 mtompset alexbuckley_: The error I put in the comment is the same with and without 17955. 23:43 wizzycray then it's totally a different bug? 23:43 dcook Nice one, mtompset. Good to see someone thinking ahead :D 23:43 * dcook has given up on his warnings about Zebra 23:44 mtompset wizzycray: I'm not tracking where you are coming from. 23:44 dcook Well, not given up entirely 23:44 wizzycray mtompset, if that bug happens with or without the patch, isn't it a different bug? 23:44 mtompset dcook: There is a still a search engine ghost related to zebra I was pondering trying to debug. 23:44 dcook search engine ghost? 23:45 mtompset wizzycray: No, it means 17855 doesn't do what it needs to do properly. 23:45 mtompset and 17995 doesn't fix it either. 23:45 mtompset dcook: There is a parameter somewhere that elasticsearch uses that zebra call doesn't and it triggers a problem. 23:46 mtompset And I vaguely have notes written somewhere, but I figure if elastic search takes over as the search engine there is no point hunting forit. 23:46 wizzycray can you add circ rules generally in xenial? 23:46 wizzycray without that error? 23:46 mtompset wizzycray: Not in the onboarding tool. 23:46 wizzycray that isn't what I asked you 23:47 mtompset Let me check.... 23:48 wizzycray my concern is that the problem isn't specific to the onboarding tool 23:48 wizzycray and is more to do with how the onshelfholds in the circ table happens. 23:49 mtompset Yes, yes you can add a rule in Xenial circ rules. 23:49 mtompset He needs to take the logic from that code and put it into onboarding. 23:50 mtompset Because I don't think it is the onshelfholds field... but opacitemshold field. 23:50 mtompset but I'm totally going off my poor memory. 23:51 mtompset Which is why I mentioned "I was reading updatedatabase.pl around 3.19.00.017's update." 23:51 mtompset because that got me thinking it might be the wrong field. 23:52 mtompset Does that make sense, alexbuckley_ ? 23:52 mtompset Because the other fixes look great. 23:54 dcook mtompset: Yeah, that's a tough one. 23:54 dcook If you log it, you can add me to the CC 23:56 alexbuckley_ well I half understand I have looked at the smart-rules.pl script and where the user has selected all for item types it does the following insert 23:56 pastebot "alexbuckley_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "smart-rules.pl" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/292 23:57 alexbuckley_ Whereas in my onboarding.pl I am doing 23:57 pastebot "alexbuckley_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "onboarding.pl" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293 23:57 alexbuckley_ in other words their code does not use onshelfholds 23:59 alexbuckley_ so I can implement the equivalent of their query in for all libraries, patron categories and itemtypes into the onboarding.pl