Time  Nick            Message
00:09 martian523      back at the problem...really wanna fix this
00:14 wizzycray       right so. our database says we have a table. Our Koha says we don't.
00:14 martian523      right. that's just wrong
00:16 wizzycray       so hm
00:17 wizzycray       ok in your koha-conf.xml
00:17 wizzycray       sudo less /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
00:17 wizzycray       down to <config>
00:17 wizzycray       and look for <intranetdir>
00:17 wizzycray       what's that path?
00:18 wizzycray       and also
00:18 wizzycray       sudo locate opac-main.pl
00:18 wizzycray       (1st is the koha we think we are talking to, the 2nd is all of the places we *could* be looking)
00:21 wizzycray       though tbh, koha's had aq stuff for a long time before you started.
00:21 martian523      <intranetdir>/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin</intranetdir>
00:24 martian523      http://paste.koha-community.org/280
00:30 martian523      wizzycray any idea?
00:34 wizzycray       hehe sorry work work :)
00:34 martian523      it's ok
00:35 wizzycray       hm nope all that looks ok - the one in koha-conf matches at least one of those entries from your locate, so that should be ok
00:35 wizzycray       when you did your upgrade, how did you do it?
00:36 martian523      last week
00:36 wahanui         rumour has it last week is just one big blur :)
00:37 wizzycray       hm, not when, how?
00:37 wizzycray       i.e. what command did you run or what process did you follow
00:37 martian523      the upgrade koha procedure from download.koha-community.org
00:38 martian523      extracting from tar.gz file
00:48 wizzycray       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball#Upgrade_Instructions something like this?
00:48 wizzycray       cuz if you didn't do that sudo make upgrade
00:48 wizzycray       it's possible that your upgrade isn't complete
00:49 wizzycray       (the whole process there, actually.)
00:49 wizzycray       under upgrade. Not install.
00:50 martian523      something like that
00:52 wizzycray       and when you logged in first time after that, you upgraded the database?
00:52 martian523      yes, we used the instructions as on the link
00:52 wizzycray       it prompted you to
00:52 wizzycray       and you did it, and there were no errors?
00:53 martian523      no error
00:54 wizzycray       and your More -> About Koha lists 16.(whatever) as your installed version?
00:54 martian523      yes
00:54 martian523      16.05.07
00:57 wizzycray       I'm feeling like this must be bad data somehow.
00:57 wizzycray       can you add a new vendor?
00:59 martian523      no, cannot add new vendor.  came back with error: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054.
01:12 wizzycray       out of curiosity
01:12 wizzycray       what do you get if you d
01:13 wizzycray       apt-cache policy mysql-client
01:13 wizzycray       for "installed:
01:13 wizzycray       (we don't care about the version table)
01:13 martian523      so put apt-cache policy mysql-client?
01:14 wizzycray       just on the command line yep
01:14 martian523      5.5.40-0+wheezy1
01:16 wizzycray       oh, wheezy
01:17 martian523      it shouldn't be?
01:17 wizzycray       do
01:17 wizzycray       cat /etc/issue
01:18 wizzycray       what does that say please?
01:18 martian523      Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
01:18 * wizzycray     checks something
01:20 wizzycray       16.05 might be ok on wheezy but wheezy was deprecated for sure for 16.11
01:21 wizzycray       https://koha-community.org/koha-16-11-released-2/ see "deprecation notice"
01:21 martian523      but would that be a problem that caused it?
01:21 wizzycray       and I'd guess it'd be dodgy on 16.05
01:21 wizzycray       if you don't have the right versions of dependencies it might
01:22 martian523      i see
01:22 wizzycray       it'd take more time than I have at the moment to dig into that I'm afraid
01:22 wizzycray       but a thing you might consider, and you need to do anyway
01:22 martian523      ok. i'll let the IT know tmr.
01:23 wizzycray       is to upgrade your server to Debian 8
01:23 martian523      is...
01:23 martian523      ok
01:23 martian523      i'll let them know
01:23 martian523      hopefully it can fix it
01:23 wizzycray       but, take a full backup and off-machine it of your koha
01:23 wizzycray       before you do that.
01:23 martian523      ok. thanks!
01:24 wizzycray       drojf would know more about any potential problems with wheezy and 16.05, though since you didn't use the packages it's kinda all bets are off
01:24 wizzycray       even better idea, might be to build a new server
01:24 wizzycray       on jessie
01:24 wizzycray       and install koha with the packages
01:24 wizzycray       and import the database
01:24 wizzycray       then you'd have a right proper setup
01:24 wizzycray       and we could help a lot more easily
01:25 wizzycray       (cool tools like "koha-mysql" and "koha-shell"  and instances and well known locations of things and so on)
01:25 martian523      thanks!
01:26 martian523      gotta go
01:26 wizzycray       good luck let us know how it turns out
01:26 martian523      will do
06:05 drojf           morning #koha
06:15 drojf           is it just me or is something broken with matching/importing biblios? i upload a mrc with biblios and one with items and match on 001 and i end up with seperate records instead of adding the items to the biblios. i have done the exact thing with the exact same system before without any problems
06:56 * magnuse       waves
06:56 drojf           hei magnuse
06:57 magnuse         moin drojf
06:57 magnuse         hm, i had an import problem, lemme check
06:58 drojf           i think it is different
06:58 drojf           it seems like the matching settings get lost between staging and managing staged records
06:58 magnuse         bug 17608
06:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17608 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix behaviour of bulkmarcimport.pl -insert
06:58 magnuse         ah, ok
06:59 drojf           hmm something is broken there
06:59 drojf           i tried to apply different rules and now nothing is happening
06:59 drojf           unless that really takes ages
07:00 drojf           [off] that has to happen now when everything was done. great
07:01 drojf           it might be related to the progress bar not working most of the time
07:02 drojf           aaaaha. getting there
07:03 drojf           i hope
07:03 drojf           …
07:04 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:05 drojf           the progress bar did not work. so i checked the manage staged records page if the staging was done. it said yes. so i imported. but it was not actually done staging. or it says staged before the matching is finished
07:05 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
07:06 LibraryClaire   moin drojf
07:13 Joubu           o/
07:14 * Joubu         wonders if this aqorders table existed or not
07:15 LibraryClaire   hi Joubu
07:19 Joubu           drojf: nothing in the logs I guess?
07:19 Joubu           did you try different files?
07:21 drojf           Joubu: it works. it is just a misleading info in staged records management. it says staged before the matching is finished. when i ignore the broken progress bar while staging and wait forever, eventually it jumps to the finished-page and then everything works as expected. it's just an unfortunate case of slow server and minor errors in koha
07:22 drojf           progress bar does 0 and 100% ^^
07:22 drojf           who needs the stuff in between
07:22 LibraryClaire   precision is overrated
07:23 drojf           indeed
07:23 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
07:23 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is -3.0°C (8:19 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
07:23 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:23 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -0.5°C (8:19 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
07:24 LibraryClaire   brr
07:34 alex_a          bonjour
07:34 wahanui         hey, alex_a
07:34 LibraryClaire   salut alex_a
07:34 alex_a          salut LibraryClaire
07:39 magnuse         @wunder enbo
07:39 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:46 Joubu           jajm: do you think you will be able to continue QAing auth merge patches?
07:52 jajm            Joubu, yeah probably
07:56 marcelr         hi #koha
07:57 LibraryClaire   hey marcelr
07:57 marcelr         hi LibraryClaire
08:26 LibraryClaire   laters #koha
08:28 gaetan_B        hello
08:28 wahanui         hola, gaetan_B
08:36 fridolin        hie
10:41 LibraryClaire   hi #koha
10:43 magnuse         guten tag BüchereiKlara
10:43 LibraryClaire   hei magnuse :)
10:44 eythian         hi LibraryClaire, magnuse
10:44 eythian         @wunder ams
10:44 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -2.0°C (11:25 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
10:45 magnuse         hiya eythian
10:45 eythian         it's warmed up a bit since I biked in.
10:45 magnuse         @wunder enbo
10:45 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (11:20 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
10:45 LibraryClaire   @wunder konstanz
10:45 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is -1.8°C (11:40 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
10:45 magnuse         @wunder marseille, france
10:45 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (11:30 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
10:45 magnuse         oops
10:46 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
10:46 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 1.2°C (11:45 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
10:46 drojf           ha. plus!
10:46 LibraryClaire   chuffing cold
10:46 LibraryClaire   is how i describe all current weather
10:46 * drojf         throws away shirt
10:47 LibraryClaire   I had to use two duvets last night
10:52 Joubu           Could someone confirm that lost items must be skipped by the overdue_notice script? see bug 17952
10:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17952 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Lost items not skipped by overdue_notices.pl
10:52 Joubu           It sounds like it is the expected behavior but I'd like to get other inputs
10:52 drojf           later #koha
10:52 * Joubu         is sorry not to talk about weather
10:53 LibraryClaire   join us Joubu
10:53 Joubu           @wunder Toulon, France
10:53 huginn          Joubu: The current temperature in Boulevard de Strasbourg, Toulon, France is 11.5°C (11:52 AM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
10:53 * LibraryClaire holds up flashcards of weather symbols
10:53 * Joubu         wins
10:53 LibraryClaire   damn...
10:53 Joubu           We got huge thunderstorms yesterday night
10:54 LibraryClaire   Thunderstorms would mean it was warm enough to rain. I'd be ok with that
10:54 Joubu           @answer Does the lost items should be skipped by the overdue_notice script?
10:55 huginn          Joubu: downloading the Perl source
10:55 Joubu           yes or no?
10:55 kidclamp        yes
10:55 kidclamp        marking lost is a final action for an overdue I would say - once you do that you aren't sending reminders anymore Joubu
10:56 kidclamp        we don't expect a lost item to return
10:57 * kidclamp      thinks maybe you wanted an opinion of someone who isn't supervised by khall though
10:57 Joubu           It often happens to my girlfriend to "loose" something and to find it back few hours later
10:57 LibraryClaire   in terms of day to day work, I would say you wouldn't want to see lost items
10:58 kidclamp        it also bascially kills the script in a large library if they are considered - years of lost items all being checked for overdue notices - the script was running for 14+ hours
10:59 Joubu           But I thought an item was marked as returned when marked as lost
10:59 kidclamp        longoverdue only returns if you tell it to - you have the option of leaving the item on the patron account
11:00 kidclamp        some libraries who do not charge do that as a way to keep a restriction on the patrons record
11:00 LibraryClaire   also stays on the account until patron has paid for or replaced it or in case they find it
11:01 LibraryClaire   (was our preferred method)
11:15 Joubu           ashimema: Hi! I have a DBIC question
11:16 Joubu           I think I already asked you
11:17 Joubu           when I store a new row and I want to access an "DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP" field, what should I do?
11:17 Joubu           I thought discard_changes did that, but apparently not
11:17 Joubu           I'd like to avoid a new fetch
11:19 Joubu           khall or kidclamp maybe? ^
11:19 khall           Joubu: you can't avoid a fetch since the db is generating the timestamp
11:20 khall           Joubu: are you saying discard_changes was ineffective?
11:20 Joubu           yes true, but I wanted to say "avoid to recreate an object"
11:20 khall           hmm, that should have worked, let me look into that
11:24 khall           Joubu: discard_changes worked for me
11:24 khall           Joubu: another alterntive if you wanted to be "close enough" would be to just stuff the current time into the un-updated object
11:25 khall           Joubu: like $patron->updated_on( dt_from_string() );
11:25 khall           right after your store it
11:25 khall           that would avoid the db fetch
11:25 khall           would be close but not absolutely accurate
11:27 rsantellan      good morning #koha
11:27 Joubu           khall: I have attached a try on bug 17782 to show what's wrong
11:27 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17782 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Patron updated_on field should be set to current timestamp when borrower is deleted
11:27 khall           Joubu: I'll take a look
11:28 Joubu           If I uncomment the discard changes, I get DBIx::Class::ResultSource::_pri_cols_or_die(): Operation requires a primary key to be declared on 'Deletedborrower' via set_primary_key at t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t line 329
11:28 Joubu           ha yes, there is no PK on deleted_borrowers!
11:28 Joubu           erk
11:32 Joubu           I do not understand why actually, there should not have a way to delete 2 borrowers row with same borrowernumber
11:37 Joubu           ashimema: it would be great to get your QA stamp on bug 6979, I am not confident with LDAP code
11:37 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6979 major, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , LDAP authentication fails during password comparison
11:37 Joubu           @later tell ashimema: it would be great to get your QA stamp on bug 6979, I am not confident with LDAP code
11:37 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:43 * ashimema      is reading the history of the bug
11:50 ashimema        man I hate out LDAP code
11:50 * ashimema      scurries off to read all/any tests for that module..
11:51 ashimema        I'm not confident that the patch won't break some configurations at this point.. but I'll keep digging for a little bit
11:54 * cait          keeps fingers crossed
11:56 ashimema        there are simply too many different ways to configure ldap in koha at the moment ;)
11:56 ashimema        it's really hard to account for all codepaths
11:57 cait            i am not against simplyfying it, but unsure what people are actually using and what makes sense
11:57 cait            we only have one library with ldap so far
11:57 ashimema        indeed.. that's the hardest part of the problem
12:48 oleonard        Hi #koha
13:09 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard
13:09 wahanui         hi olé onard
13:28 khall           Joubu: just posted a followup to 17782 that allows discard_changes to work for Deletedborrower, it's a one-liner
13:29 Joubu           khall: Don't you think we should also add the constraint that at the DB level as well?
13:29 Joubu           in that case we will do that on another bug report
13:29 Joubu           we may find issues for DB using old data
13:30 khall           Joubu: yeah, that would definitely be a good idea
13:40 Joubu           khall: ok, I have to go right now. I will try to PQA this one and open a new one to add the PK
13:45 khall           Joubu: good thought
13:58 edveal          morning kidclamp!
13:58 kidclamp        morning edveal
13:58 kidclamp        how's houston?
13:59 edveal          Great!
14:01 edveal          @ later tell talljoy Please ping me when you can. I have a windows question for you. :)
14:01 huginn          edveal: The operation succeeded.
14:12 edveal          Morning NateC
14:14 NateC           morning edveal !
14:55 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
14:55 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 1.0°C (3:50 PM CET on January 26, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
15:25 oleonard        Hi talljoy
16:45 reiveune        bye
17:15 pastebot        "crispybran" at 10.100.30.72 pasted "Vagrant Issue CB" (38 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/283
19:03 oleonard        Does kohadevbox expect the user to have SSH keys set up?
19:03 cait            hm?
19:04 kidclamp        doesn't vagrant set up all the keys oleonard?
19:04 oleonard        CrispyBran is running into problems installing kohadevbox on Windows: http://paste.koha-community.org/283
19:04 oleonard        I don't know what to suggest for this problem. I dont remember running into it myself.
19:04 kidclamp        CrispyBran is 64 bti emulation enabled on your machine?
19:05 CrispyBran      I have no idea
19:06 kidclamp        it would be in your bios likely
19:06 kidclamp        it doesn't seem like an ssh problem, but like the guest machine isn't booting
19:07 oleonard        I don't remember ever having to mess with my bios to get Virtualbox running.
19:07 CrispyBran      That's what it looks like to me.
19:07 CrispyBran      I can start a virtualbox from scratch through the manager.
19:07 kidclamp        I had to enable it on one of my machines in the past, a 64 bit machine?
19:08 kidclamp        then it could be something else, try extending the timeout or ask tcohen if/when he is around
19:08 kidclamp        likely not today
19:10 CrispyBran      I don't see 64 bit options in the manager.
19:13 kidclamp        https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62339
19:13 kidclamp        just a guess really CrispyBran could be something else blocking the box - i don't know if there are more verbose logs anywhere
19:14 CrispyBran      I have something I need to check.  I'll have to reboot.  Be back shortly.
19:29 oleonard        [off] I've been trying to convince CrispyBran that getting kohadevbox installed is worth the effort
19:29 oleonard        [off] I hope I'm  not wrong!
19:29 kidclamp        yeah, when you hit a snag it is rough, but once you have it going it is delightful
19:30 kidclamp        even when it blows up the worst you have to do is destroy and rebuild
19:39 CrispyBran      oleonard, I think kidclamp deserves a raise
19:41 CrispyBran      vagrant is doing a lot more than it ever did now.  The bios virtualization settings were off.
19:41 oleonard        Well whaddaya know.
19:42 nuentoter       thats a nice easy fix, those are always a relief lol
19:46 CrispyBran      So it stopped with an anisble error.  So I am running vagrant up --provision
19:47 CrispyBran      seems to be continuing
19:56 CrispyBran      This process seems to take quite a while.
19:57 oleonard        Yes, it has to clone the whole git repository which is very large
19:59 oleonard        Bye all. I think I'll actually submit a patch tomorrow maybe.
19:59 * oleonard      crosses fingers
20:19 nuentoter       wondering if someone could help me out with some sql report stuff maybe, Right now I have a sql report that allows me to pull all the barcodes between <<From Acc>>  AND <<To ACC>> and it works great, is there a way though to augment it so that I can type in a list of barcodes and it will pull that list, not all in between
22:11 * dcook         waves
22:12 dcook           Hmm... can't find my name in the scrollback but the channel was green..