Time Nick Message 00:50 mtompset @seen cait 00:50 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <cait> go academy students go! 01:39 mtompset alexbuckley: If you have addressed alll the issues with bug 17855, then please set the status to needs sign off. ;) 01:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha 01:46 mtj hey #koha 01:46 mtj rangi, your 'koha by the numbers' graphic looks amazing btw :0) 01:50 rangi lukecatalyst: git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password PW 01:50 alexbuckley thanks mtompset have done so now 01:51 wizzyrea hi mtj 01:53 mtompset I'll get to it after I finish writing all the patches for bug 17917 01:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17917 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Jenkins tests failing because test suite not logged in user 01:54 mtj hiya wiz :) 01:56 rangi installer/data/mysql/fr-CA/obligatoire/sample_notices.sql 01:57 rangi installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/sample_notices.sql 02:27 mtompset rangi: Those two sound familar. :) The HOLD print letter is missing, which is causing my t/db_dependent/Reserves.t testing to fail. ;) 02:43 rangi patch is attached now mtompset 02:46 rangi http://www.favicon-generator.org/ 02:53 mtompset Okay... going to give it a whirl while testing this other bug. :) 03:12 mtompset @seen cait 03:12 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> go academy students go! 03:13 mtompset Okay, so she's offline for the night. 03:14 rangi view-source:http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/staff-global.css 03:22 rangi http://getbootstrap.com/css/#helper-classes 03:36 mtompset Strange. 03:36 mtompset prove t/Prices.t passed on kohadevbox, but my git install fails. 03:39 wizzyrea quite a few bugs recently fixed for that one 03:39 wizzyrea https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20prices.t&list_id=187641 03:41 wizzyrea is your KOHA_CONF unset? 03:41 wizzyrea for your git install 03:41 mtompset nope. It is set well. 03:42 mtompset I have no bookseller. 03:42 mtompset maybe that's it. 04:20 mtompset I still think bug 17917 will solve most of the failures in Jenkins build #91 04:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17917 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Jenkins tests failing because test suite not logged in user 04:22 mtompset rangi++ # thanks, I really hate Failed QA'ing things, particularly on those just starting. 04:22 rangi its much better than leaving it sitting as needs signoff, because it will never get fixed 04:23 rangi and someone else will try to sign it off 04:23 mtompset Yes, but I don't want to win the failed QA counts. ;) 04:23 mtompset True enough. 04:23 wahanui I know, that's why I said it. 04:23 rangi don't test them then :) 06:16 mtompset @seen Joubu 06:16 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 12 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Joubu> we had the discussion on koha-devel before removing it 06:52 * magnuse waves 06:53 magnuse @wunder enbo 06:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 06:53 magnuse trpoical! 06:57 mtompset Greetings, magnuse 06:58 magnuse kia ora mtompset 07:01 mtompset There... just 2 problems left. 07:03 mtompset t/db_dependent/OAI/Server.t and t/Prices.t 07:09 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:12 mtompset Yes, 2:12AM morning it is. ;) 07:13 mtompset @later tell tcohen bug 17917, 17919, and 17920 solve most of jenkins debian 8 master build 91's problems. 07:13 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 07:13 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:13 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -3.2°C (8:10 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton 07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. 07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton, ON 07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. 07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton, CA 07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. 07:14 mtompset @wunder caledon, ON 07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. 07:14 LibraryClaire @wunder bolton, canada 07:14 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found. 07:15 LibraryClaire :( 07:15 mtompset Too small to care, I guess. 07:15 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5 07:15 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in West Bolton, Caledon, Ontario is -3.9°C (2:15 AM EST on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 07:16 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha LibraryClaire magnuse rangi wizzyrea 07:16 magnuse in preparation for kohacon20 in norway: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/norwegian ;-) 07:17 magnuse oops, scratch that, 2020 is nz isn't it? so 2021, maybe 07:17 LibraryClaire magnuse: cool! :) 07:22 magnuse if i say iot enough times, maybe it will become true :-) 07:23 LibraryClaire :D 07:28 Joubu @later tell khall please take a look at the last patch on bug 6782 07:28 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 07:31 Joubu @later tell tcohen, yes last patch on bug 6782 should fix it 07:31 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 07:32 fridolin morning there 07:33 fridolin LibraryClaire: hie 07:34 LibraryClaire bonjour fridolin 07:38 rangi [off] Joubu: I probably wont get a chance to look at those other patches you submitted in koha security for a few days, so you might want to add some other people to the cc lists 07:39 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Day_1 <-- not bad for the first day 07:39 magnuse catalyst_academy++ 07:40 Joubu ok 07:40 Joubu well done indeed, I will try and QA them today 07:40 LibraryClaire nice rangi 07:40 rangi thank you 07:41 magnuse rangi++ 07:44 rangi aleisha++ #it was a team effort 07:44 LibraryClaire aleisha++ 07:44 LibraryClaire rangi++ 07:44 rangi after spending the day in a recording studio yesterday, today she was helping out at the academy :) (shes helping for the rest of the week too) 07:45 reiveune hello 07:48 LibraryClaire hi reiveune 07:55 alex_a bonjour 07:55 magnuse aleisha++ 07:57 magnuse so when OAI-PMH:ConfFile is set and the Zebra SRU server is in "extended mode" it adds a <collection> element around each record when marcxml is requested? that is kind of weird... 08:02 magnuse s/Zebra SRU/oai/ 08:02 * magnuse is confused 08:07 LibraryClaire bonjour alex_a 08:28 Joubu paul_p: Hi! Did you test bug 17898? 08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a way to automatically convert SQL reports 08:35 * fridolin oneline-patch Bug 17915 08:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17915 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , warning in Stage MARC records for import when matching rule with offset 08:35 fridolin is there an ominbus for perl useless warnings ? 08:40 Joubu nope 08:46 paul_p Joubu nope, just saw your email on koha-devel and found the stuff amazing 10:03 eythian @wunder ams 10:03 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -4.0°C (10:55 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 10:04 eythian and the power was out for a few hours in the middle of the night until early morning. I bet some people were cold. 10:05 cait ouch 10:05 eythian yeah 10:05 eythian it's made a mess of this area of the country, as rail was down 10:06 eythian and I don't think it's totally back yet. 10:08 eythian http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/01/train-services-start-up-slowly-after-major-amsterdam-power-cut/ <-- the official advice has been not to come to Amsterdam if you can avoid it, unless you're walking or biking. 10:12 cait wow 11:45 drojf hi #koha 11:45 eythian hi drojf 11:45 drojf hi eythian 11:48 LibraryClaire hi drojf 12:08 drojf hi LibraryClaire 12:10 eythian https://twitter.com/LianderNL/status/821298713922506752 <-- the translate button doesn't not give you a confusing double negative 12:36 oleonard Hi all 12:37 LibraryClaire hey oleonard 12:37 wahanui i heard oleonard was not really here. He said so. He did! 12:38 LibraryClaire fair enough 12:40 drojf that theresa may speech was not bullshit at all 12:42 drojf hi oleonard 12:42 wahanui hi olé onard 12:46 tcohen morning 12:48 drojf hi tcq 12:48 drojf oops 12:48 drojf hi tcohen 12:49 tcohen hey drojf 12:56 LibraryClaire hi tcohen 12:56 tcohen hi LibraryClaire 13:02 marcelr hi #koha 13:02 eythian hi marcelr 13:03 marcelr hi eythian : heb je al stroom? 13:04 eythian yeah, it was out overnight, but I slept through all the fun 13:05 eythian did you come in to Ams today, or are you working from home? Because apparently transport was properly screwed up. 13:05 eythian @wunder ams 13:05 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -2.0°C (1:55 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 13:05 eythian warming up... 13:06 marcelr no i am not in ams 13:06 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 13:06 eythian probably a good choice :) 13:06 marcelr :) 13:06 drojf is there a way to suppress the amazon (or other) cover when a local imagine is available? 13:06 eythian imagine all the images 13:06 drojf hi marcelr 13:06 marcelr hi drojf 13:07 drojf eythian: that might take a while 13:11 cait drojf: not that i know of 13:11 cait drojf: maybe some custom javascript? 13:12 drojf cait: that is what i am looking into now 13:12 drojf not sure if it's worth it 13:12 cait there was a bug to deal with multiple cover providers, but i thas been closed in favor of coce 13:12 drojf there was an rfc 13:12 drojf hm yes but coce doed not do local covers 13:12 drojf does 13:44 gmcharlt @quote random 13:44 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) 13:45 cait drojf: yeah, i tihnk maybe one could change it so coce is only triggered when there is no local cover? 13:46 kidclamp what cait said drojf 13:46 kidclamp and morning! 13:46 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 13:46 kidclamp hi LibraryClaire 14:04 magnuse kia ora kidclamp 14:04 magnuse huh? Undefined subroutine &C4::Letters::GetPreparedLetter called at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Patron/Password/Recovery.pm line 142. 14:04 kidclamp hi magnuse 14:07 drojf is it just me, or is the div "amazon-bookcoverimg" missing in the OPAC but present in the staff client? 14:21 cait no idea 14:30 marcelr gmcharlt: hi; have a look at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17913#c13 14:33 gaetan_B hello 14:33 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 14:34 gmcharlt marcelr: in particular, for the suggested change to MARC::Record? 14:34 marcelr yes sur 14:34 marcelr sir 14:42 oleonard Looking at Bug 17855... 14:42 oleonard "MARC21 is more commonly used globally, whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe" 14:42 wahanui i already had it that way, oleonard. 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha 14:43 oleonard What's a more accurate version of that sentence? "MARC21 is used globally, whereas UNIMARC tends to be used only in France" ? "only in French-speaking countries?" 14:43 cait i think maybe spain too 14:43 cait in some countries in Europe maybe 14:43 cait ah not spain 14:43 cait italy 14:43 cait becuase Zeno seemed to also work with UNIMARC 14:44 eythian "In the warmer parts of Europe" 14:44 cait Germany uses MARC21 - I would be happy to see the sentence be a bit more accurate :) 14:44 oleonard Maybe we should just take that sentence out? 14:45 cait where does it come from? web installer? 14:45 oleonard Yes, in Bug 17855 14:45 cait hm i feel like i have seen it somewhere else too 14:45 cait they might have picked it up from docs or so 14:45 kidclamp "MARC21 is commonly used, but some locations (narrow eyes) use UNIMARC" 14:46 cait hehe 14:46 cait MARC21 is the most commonly used MARC flavour - that would be true i think 14:46 eythian "Some silly places use UNIMARC though" 14:48 oleonard You guys are a lot of help :P 14:49 * cait glares a little at eythian 14:49 cait I'd go with some countries in europe 14:49 * eythian helps 14:49 cait and maybe with a sentence to say: check what's common in your area 14:49 eythian "and possibly the more seccessionist parts of Canada" 14:49 marcelr oleonard: you know, europe is always divided 14:50 oleonard Wikipedia: "There are several versions of MARC in use around the world, the most predominant being MARC 21, created in 1999 as a result of the harmonization of U.S. and Canadian MARC formats, and UNIMARC, widely used in Europe" 14:51 oleonard So UNIMARC users are holdouts? Loners? Rebels? 14:51 marcelr widely used, aarg 14:51 cait yeah but still not true 14:51 marcelr french rebels 14:51 cait yeah 14:52 cait i have had someone tell m they installed unimarc because they wanted to be able to use non-latin characters in their records 14:52 marcelr and magnuse wants you to mention normarc too ;) 14:52 cait lots of confusion there 14:52 marcelr eythian: they even use unimarc in maastricht 14:52 eythian marcelr: they're a bit strange down there, I hear 14:52 magnuse huh? yes, always mention normarc. the more normarc the better. 14:53 marcelr marc must die except for normarc :) 14:53 cait we could write: also consider to support norwegian giants by using NORMARC and help to spread it around the world? 14:53 marcelr sounds good 14:53 eythian norwegian trolls, surely 14:53 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:53 * cait is cold 14:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.4°C (3:51 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 14:53 eythian @wunder ams 14:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -1.0°C (3:25 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 14:53 kidclamp "If you don't which marc flavour to use, find a basement, there is probably a cataloger there. They will have strong opinions (possibly anti-marc) but they'll be bale to tell you which you should use" 14:54 eythian slowly warming up 14:54 marcelr oclc in netherlands introduced some marcnl dialect 14:54 oleonard "probably a cataloger, or a troll with opinions about metadata" 14:54 cait i see the academy students have been active :) 14:54 magnuse MARC must die, NORMARC must die first 14:54 marcelr academy++ 14:55 magnuse academy++ 14:55 magnuse according to norwegian cataloguers, normarc is superior to marc21. so there! 14:56 marcelr objective as they always are 14:56 eythian marcelr: like dutch is to english, was marcnl just a more drunk sounding version of marc21? 14:57 marcelr dont put dutch in the comparison 14:57 marcelr it is just a bad idea 14:58 eythian or was it that all the subfields are 'g'? 14:58 marcelr i do not even want to know it 14:58 eythian heh 14:58 marcelr lol 14:58 marcelr lets eliminate subfields 14:59 eythian once you've achieved that, you can eliminate tags 14:59 marcelr i write a patch for it this weekend 14:59 eythian then you've just go the leader left, once that's gone, marc will have died 14:59 marcelr so good 15:01 magnuse @confetti 15:01 huginn magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes 15:22 Joubu magnuse: did you open a bug report about the undefined subroutine? 15:23 magnuse Joubu: yes, bug 17924 15:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Fix error in password recovery 15:23 Joubu magnuse: thanks! Does it affect stables? 15:24 magnuse yes, i spotted it on 16.11.1 15:24 Joubu ok, I upgraded the severity 15:27 cait hm guess i should watch it 15:30 tcohen hi cait magnuse 15:31 cait hi tcohen :) 15:34 drojf later #koha 15:35 eythian marcelr: can you shift the rijksmuseum over a meter or two, the sun is shining on my monitor, and that'd solve it. 15:35 marcelr time for a cup of tea, eythian 15:36 eythian also an option 15:57 LibraryClaire laters #koha 16:06 marcelr have to go 16:07 reiveune bye 17:01 Joubu Bye #koha! 18:08 kchris kchris_away 18:32 LibraryClaire evening #koha 18:38 * cait waves 19:26 tcohen @later tell ashimema I don't manage to make coercion work again 19:26 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:53 barton Hi -- I have a library that's reporting that credits for returned lost items are not showing in circulation->print summary ... is this a bug, or is it simply the way that print summary was designed? 19:54 barton emma___ can't be far behind ;-) 19:56 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Day_2 19:59 rangi karen_: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Day_2 20:00 rangi https://gitlab.com/scoreboard/scoreboard 20:00 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ 20:02 rangi so making a gitlab account 20:03 alexbuckley rangi the vagrant up --provision after a bit of troublehooting with ssh library :) has worked. thanks 20:03 rangi yay alexbuckley 20:18 LibraryClaire g'night #koha 20:23 kchris Catalyst Academy is pretty cool! 20:23 kchris Makes me wish I could attend. 20:24 * cait too 20:35 wizzyrea hi 20:35 wahanui privet, wizzyrea 21:03 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ 21:07 wizzyrea lol what is a bactrian camels saved 21:08 wizzyrea bactrian camel, even. 21:08 wizzyrea tmmto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-KGLeLReA 21:29 aleisha emma_: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/audio_alerts.js 21:30 aleisha wizzyrea: a camel with two humps 21:30 aleisha camelyst 21:30 wizzyrea kekekeke 21:46 cait hm looks like you are saving puppies today? 21:48 rangi was camels before 21:48 cait oh,... i missed the camels 21:49 wizzyrea ohh cute dogs 21:56 rangi camels again 21:58 * cait checks quickly 21:58 cait yay! 21:58 cait what's a bactrian camel? 22:01 rangi cait: zoeS has a question about the opac did you mean thing 22:04 rangi shes trying to take a screen shot to show you 22:04 tcohen hi 22:04 wahanui salut, tcohen 22:04 wizzyrea shutter is a super nice screenshotter for ubuntu 22:05 tcohen anyone familiar with Perl's JSON library? 22:09 zoeS Cait, I put a screenshot up for you here: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16515:) 22:09 huginn 04Bug 16515: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Did you mean? links don't wrap on smaller screens 22:09 cait ok, let me check ) 22:09 * cait deletes smiley from link heh 22:11 cait i think that does look like it zoe 22:12 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "#koha: need help figuring what's going on, anyone?" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264 22:13 cait zoeS: when I ran into it the yellow box ran... out of the screen? 22:13 cait not sure if it still does from the screenshot 22:13 cait it was an older version 22:13 cait but you are definitely in the right spot 22:13 cait i fixed it with the css suggested here: 22:13 cait [off] https://bbf.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=heimat 22:17 cait looking at your screenshot I think you are using the other of the suggestion plugins, but it probably makes no difference on the formatting 22:19 zoeS I haven't made any changes yet, I'm just trying to recreate it so maybe it's already fixed? 22:24 cait maybe try putting the suggested CSS in your OpacUserCss system preference 22:24 cait and see if there is a difference 22:24 cait the plugin you use doesn't have so much text, so it might not manifest 22:25 cait [off] with complicated authorities, more shows up there: https://bbf.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=deutschland 22:25 cait btw cool email address :) 22:28 tcohen hi cait 22:28 cait hi tcohen :) 22:28 * tcohen is stuck 22:29 * cait knows the feeling 22:36 zoeS I sent another screenshot of what it looks like after the css suggestion is applied: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16515 22:36 huginn 04Bug 16515: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Did you mean? links don't wrap on smaller screens 22:37 emma__ http://soundbible.com/2084-Glass-Ping.html 22:40 cait i think it looks better - the yellow box stays wihtin the white one 22:41 rangi emma__: http://media.io/ 22:44 rangi emma__: wget http://www18.online-convert.com/download-file/89fb414a2270bd804f5d0c5da1cb0c1d/converted-ca09c04b.ogg 22:52 cait is grace around? 22:54 cait i just commented on bug 8266 22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8266 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove location from pull down on search 22:57 cait wow so many patches already 23:05 rangi http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg 23:05 cait what are you doing there? :) 23:19 aleisha Gracie: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9388 23:19 huginn 04Bug 9388: trivial, P5 - low, ---, jorgia_m_kelsey, Failed QA , Accessibility - No feedback when returning book.