Time  Nick       Message
08:04 alex_a     bonjour
08:17 fridolin   hie there
08:44 Joubu      o/
08:45 magnuse    \o
09:00 * cait     waves
10:18 magnuse    hiya cait and papa1 and Viktor and kchris
10:20 kchris     Hi @magnuse.
10:24 Ricardo    Hi everyone.
10:26 Ricardo    I got a couple of doubts using Koha within a school library environment. Am wondering if anyone is able to help out.
10:26 cait       hi Ricardo
10:26 cait       what are your doubts about?
10:27 cait       there are definitely a lot of schools using koha out there :)
10:28 Ricardo    Hi cait. Thank you for taking the time. To put it simply... I´ve been trying to setup the readers/students list but i can´t find the option/fields in wich to insert the student course/year/class. Is there an option for that?
10:29 Ricardo    I sort of needed that info inserted on the software for statistical purposes.
10:30 Ricardo    Must be to early in the morning. My english is lacking lmao.
10:31 cait       you can use the statistic 1 and statistics 2 values
10:31 cait       in the borrower
10:31 cait       or create your own field using extended patron attributes
10:31 cait       the statistics fields have the advantage that they are included in some of the search interfaces
10:31 cait       you can either fill that in as a clear text field
10:31 cait       or you can create a pull down
10:32 cait       where are you from Ricardo?
10:32 Ricardo    Portugal... Azores to be more specific.
10:32 cait       Germany
10:32 cait       :)
10:32 Ricardo    *islands
10:32 cait       ok, do youknow whch fields i mean in the patron record?
10:32 Ricardo    nice. i got a couple of friends there
10:33 Ricardo    i don´t. but, i´ll soon find them :D
10:33 Ricardo    i think the best option might be the extended patron attributes
10:33 cait       if you want to create a pull down, look at administration > authorized values > bsort1/bsort2
10:34 cait       both work about the same
10:34 Ricardo    the pull down would be too extensive
10:34 cait       i like the statistic fields because they are a bit easier to deal with
10:34 cait       in patron import and sql updating
10:35 cait       and you can rename the field with a little jquery
10:35 Ricardo    taking notes... taking notes ;)
10:38 Ricardo    how about within patron attribute types?
10:38 cait       hm?
10:39 Ricardo    admin>patron-attrib-types.pl
10:39 cait       yes?
10:40 cait       you might have to activate the feature first in your systempreferences
10:40 cait       look for extend in search
10:40 cait       after that it should show up in the patron records
10:41 cait       you can also import those and do sql updates - it's just a little trickier, different syntax for import and separate table linked to borrowres in the database
10:41 Ricardo    rgr. thank you so much for your help cait. i´ll go play around with it now :-)
10:42 Ricardo    ... and like someone said... "I´ll be back."
10:44 cait       np
10:51 magnuse    cait++
10:52 * Viktor   was at lunch but waves back att magnuse
10:52 * magnuse  wanders off to lunch
10:53 Viktor     Getting JSON data without making the report public - possible?
10:53 Viktor     Would be useful for visualizations in staff where the data might not be suitable for public display
11:27 cait       Viktor: yes
11:27 cait       just go via the staff url then
11:27 cait       if you have a valid koha session it will work, if you are not logged into koha with perms for reports, not
11:30 Viktor     cait Thanks, that’s great! I’ve noticed that both staff and opac worked, but not understood the use case :)
11:32 cait       we use that for some things
11:33 cait       for example i create a print layout for acqorders via reports and JSON :)
11:33 cait       you can build nice things with it
11:34 Viktor     Yes it’s a very useful feature!
11:39 cait       hi khall
11:39 cait       :)
11:39 khall      hi!~
12:34 Joubu      What is this GATEWAY_INTERFACE env var we test sometimes in our code?
12:35 Joubu      ha ok, to know if the script is called from a cli script or not
12:38 Joubu      Why don't we have template_cache_dir in our koha-conf file??
12:38 Joubu      Should not be set by default?
12:38 Joubu      it*
12:38 Joubu      bug 7533
12:38 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7533 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , T::T caching during installation
12:48 cait       Joubu: sorry, no idea about these things
12:48 jcamins    Joubu: there was a reason, but I don't remember what it was.
12:48 cait       hi jcamins :)
12:49 Joubu      That sounds terrible not to have it set by default, I am sure not a lot of people are using it
12:49 jcamins    Joubu: I think rangi would know, because I think he's the one I discussed that with.
12:49 Joubu      ok thanks!
12:50 Joubu      @later tell rangi any ideas why template_cache_dir is not set by default? see bug 7533
12:50 huginn     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:59 * magnuse  has template_cache_dir on the list of things to add when setting up new instances
13:00 magnuse    anyone know if there exists a perl module that can take a MARC record, look at the 00x fields and return a best guess at an item type?
13:00 cait       oh?
13:00 cait       magnuse: what does it do? the cache_dir
13:00 magnuse    cait: lets you cache the templates
13:01 magnuse    should give a tiny performance boost
13:01 magnuse    s/tiny/small/
13:01 magnuse    i have no idea about the size of the boost, really
13:06 cait       Joubu: is it to be expected that a syspref change takes time to take effect with plack?
13:06 cait       this is 3.22 but is it something others have experienced too?
13:06 magnuse    cait: using memcaced?
13:06 magnuse    *memcached
13:07 cait       no memc
13:08 cait       no memcached
13:08 Joubu      looks like it's a good perf boost
13:08 cait       Joubu: was your benchmark with or without? :)
13:08 Joubu      5.998s => 4.558s # without => with
13:08 Joubu      It was without
13:09 Joubu      I used to have it set on my former dev install. I did not know it was not set on kohadevbox
13:10 cait       oh
13:10 cait       so that is quite a difference
13:10 Joubu      it's a huge difference
13:10 cait       the thing i had happen yesterday was a achange to opacuserjs
13:11 cait       it only took effect after a few minutes /several reloads of the page
13:11 cait       i am not sure what to blame for that - other things seem to work more immediate
13:20 Joubu      cait: did you try against master?
13:21 cait       didn't test much recently, it's hard to see when and why this happens, I will try to keep an eye on it
13:21 cait       was mostly wondering if I was going crzay... or if it's normal
13:28 magnuse    hm, did i hear someone saying that things are cached for a set number of requests with plack?
13:28 magnuse    something like 20?
13:28 magnuse    so you have to reload max 20 times to see the effect?
13:28 magnuse    was that something to do with the L1 cache?
13:30 magnuse    http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2016-12-09#i_1884307
13:31 magnuse    ^ that is what i was thinking of, not sure if it is relevant
13:33 cait       thx magnuse
13:36 Joubu      I put body{ background-color: red;} in OPACUserCSS, I see the result directly
13:37 Joubu      try with another color if you don't want to loose your eyes
13:38 liw        @wunder helsinki
13:38 huginn     liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -1.0°C (3:20 PM EET on December 28, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
13:38 kidclamp   we saw that in 3.22 cait, and got used to restarting plack - we also were unsure if memcached was correctly running or not though
13:39 magnuse    @wunder enbo
13:39 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 28, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
13:41 khall      @later tell oleonard bug 16072, is there any reason not to ditch the gifs altogether and use the font awsome spinner? http://fontawesome.io/examples/#animated
13:41 huginn     khall: The operation succeeded.
13:41 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15711: Follow up batch_id not used <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ee5cd27129d487fee26987118a8675033139c53> / Bug 15711: Fixing the 'Delete selected' button on patroncard images <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd3879e037727cdc2cc851aa910c68bd257ee6f4> / Bug 17785: Fix OAI-PMH's XSLT-generated URLs under Plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
13:52 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17584 [QA Followup] - Rename Koha::Patron::get_checkouts to Koha::Patron::checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f8e908061c07cb9f22ad338bb05bc95cb691bf6> / Bug 17584: Add the Koha::Patron->get_checkouts method <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6eab0b94248d86fd4996065ec92f9ebbf44646ea> / Bug 17209: Remove use of onclick from masthead <http://git.koha-com
13:56 cait       kidclamp: restarting plack is not an option here
13:56 cait       kidclamp: no server access
13:57 cait       kidclamp: newer versions don't show that behaviour then?
13:57 kidclamp   I don't know, we haven't been moving to 16.05 yet, but I don't notice it on devbox
13:57 cait       thx Joubu - was JS for me, will watch the behaviour a bit more
13:58 cait       kidclamp: hm me neither so far
13:58 cait       on devbox
14:04 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17767 - DBRev 16.12.00.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28d81cb7bbde241cafb7c1cd05860251840d7e04> / Bug 17767: (followup) Rename test file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e721f53eddb0b02d7a5a8441f4f63c3634f449d2> / Bug 17767: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc35ae21d512929b81e1d807040a51feaa493436> / Bug 17
14:04 Joubu      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Benchmark_for_16.11#Template_caching
15:21 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #77: SUCCESS in 1 hr 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/77/
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 14637: Fix add patron category under MySQL 5.7 - tests
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 14637: Fix add patron category under MySQL 5.7
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 14637: Followup - Fix number of tests due to rebase
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17246: Do no support arrayref to define multiple FK
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14637 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add patron category fails with MySQL 5.6.26
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17520: add serialsUpdate.pl to the list of regular cron jobs
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17520: Do not overlap with advance_notices.pl
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17742: Fix t/db_dependent/Patrons.t
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17742: Use TestBuilder to create the library and patron category
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17781 - Improper branchcode set during renewal
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17246 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetPreparedLetter should not allow multiple FK defined in arrayref
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17785: Fix OAI-PMH's XSLT-generated URLs under Plack
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 15711: Fixing the 'Delete selected' button on patroncard images
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17520 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Add serialsUpdate.pl to the list of regular cron jobs
15:21 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 15711: Follow up batch_id not used
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17742 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Test t/db_dependent/Patrons.t can fail randomly
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17781 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Improper branchcode set during renewal
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17785 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , oai.pl returns wrong URLs under Plack
15:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15711 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Pushed to Master , Deleting patroncard images has unexpected behaviour and is broken
15:39 kidclamp   @later tell ashimema any movement on plack/shib?
15:39 huginn     kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
15:51 kchris     After installing Koha on Windows 7 using kohadevbox
15:51 kchris     I get a working instance of Koha
15:51 kchris     But I don't seem to be getting the Koha repository.
15:51 kchris     Or the tools (git-bz, etc.)
15:52 Joubu      No git-bz?
15:53 Joubu      `which git-bz`?
15:53 kchris     At least I don't see a directory for it when I vagrant ssh into the box
15:53 Joubu      try `which git-bz`
15:54 kchris     Isn't the Koha version of git-bz installed by ansible on the box?
15:54 Joubu      yes
15:55 cait       kchris: i recently had that happen when something with ansible went wrong (but on linux)
15:55 cait       i used --provision and now it seems all good
15:58 kchris     cait++
15:58 kchris     This is looking promising...
16:03 kchris     cait: vagrant up --provision seemed to do the trick. Thanks!
16:03 cait       np :)
16:09 kidclamp   @wunder 05001
16:09 huginn     kidclamp: The current temperature in Mount Lebanon School, Lebanon, West Lebanon, New Hampshire is 1.9°C (11:09 AM EST on December 28, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).  Winter Storm Warning in effect from 10 am Thursday to 1 PM EST Friday...
16:14 kchris     nick kchris_afk
16:57 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #78: SUCCESS in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/78/
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 16072: Changing all instances of 'loading-small.gif' to
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17209: Remove use of onclick from masthead
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17584: Add the Koha::Patron->get_checkouts method
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17584 [QA Followup] - Rename Koha::Patron::get_checkouts to
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17679: C4::Circulation - Remove unused GetItemIssues
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767: Add borrower_modification.extended_attributes
16:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Pushed to Master , Include only one small spinner gif in the staff client
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767: DBIC update
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767: Make Koha::Patron::Modification handle extended attributes
16:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Pushed to Master , Remove use of onclick from masthead
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767: Unit tests
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767: (followup) Rename test file
16:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add the Koha::Patron->checkouts method
16:57 jenkins    * kyle: Bug 17767 - DBRev 16.12.00.001
16:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17679 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Circulation - Remove unused GetItemIssues
16:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17767 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Let Koha::Patron::Modification handle extended attributes
17:19 rsantellan good afternoon #koha
18:02 * cait     waves
18:44 rangi      @later tell joubu I can't remember, maybe to do with translations and/or the web installer
18:44 huginn     rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:45 cait       heya rangi
18:45 rangi      heya
20:39 wizzyrea   @later tell eythian: lol best tweet (ages back, book recommendations)
20:39 huginn     wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:05 tcohen     hey
21:06 cait       hey
21:36 tcohen     hi JesseM_bbiab and JesseM
21:37 JesseM     hiya tcohen :)
21:41 tcohen     rangi: around?
21:43 rangi      yup, whats up?
22:15 eythian    cait: packing done, netflix downloaded to tablet, now to get some sleep for the 8am train tomorrow.
22:16 cait       :)
22:16 cait       what did you download?
22:16 cait       I charged the mobiles... :)
22:18 rangi      that netflix download thing is super handy eh