Time Nick Message 01:05 TGoat Hello good folks of #koha. Please tell me, is KohaCon 2017 definitely in the Philippines? 01:06 rangi yes 01:07 TGoat thanks rangi 01:07 TGoat wwanted to be sure I was giving a library in Costa Rica good intel 06:54 * magnuse waves 07:22 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:24 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara 07:24 magnuse @wunder enbo 07:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (7:50 AM CET on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 07:24 magnuse nice! 07:25 magnuse but a bit dark, since all snow is gone 07:25 LibraryClaire hi magnuse 07:25 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 07:25 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.6°C (8:11 AM CET on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady). 07:25 LibraryClaire clear is a lie 07:29 reiveune hello 07:36 LibraryClaire hi reiveune 07:44 fridolin hie 07:44 LibraryClaire hey fridolin 07:44 wahanui fridolin is busy at the moment, I asked him to backport the bug fix 07:54 jajm hello 07:54 wahanui salut, jajm 07:54 alex_a bonjour 07:54 * LibraryClaire waves 10:46 * kidclamp waves 10:53 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 10:53 kidclamp hiya LibraryClaire 10:58 eythian https://plus.google.com/+RobinSheat/posts/1YZu6ytXEhm?sfc=true <-- something else I did this weekend past 11:00 kidclamp that looks like fun 11:01 eythian it was. It was also freezing cold, but we had enough drinks on the boat :) 11:02 kidclamp liquid parka 11:57 kidclamp Joubu around? 12:10 rsantellan good morning #koha 12:12 marcelr hi #koha 12:23 Joubu kidclamp_away: yep 12:27 vfernandes hi #Koha 12:27 vfernandes we are testing Koha 16.11 with 3M records and with elasticsearch 12:29 vfernandes the reindex of 3 millions records takes more than a day... can we speed up this reindex? 12:31 Joubu vfernandes: you can play with --commit 12:33 vfernandes Joubu: what that argument does? 12:35 vfernandes sets the number of records 12:35 vfernandes "Higher should be faster, but will cause more RAM usage. Default is 5000." 12:35 Joubu it's the number of records to build before commiting them to the ES index 12:35 vfernandes memory is not a problem 12:36 vfernandes we should also increase ElasticSearch memory? 12:36 Joubu you could try a batch of 100k with commit=5k and commit=25k and compare time exec 12:37 Joubu no idea, but if you have RAM available it will not hurt 12:38 vfernandes thanks Joubu 12:40 vfernandes 7/8s for search 3M records without plack looks very promising 12:44 eythian marcelr: got some nice canal photos on Sunday: https://plus.google.com/+RobinSheat/posts/1YZu6ytXEhm?sfc=true 12:45 marcelr hi eythian: not that 'light' ;) and kind of cold? 12:46 oleonard Oops I never logged out last night. 12:46 oleonard I didn't really stay awake all this time. 12:46 eythian marcelr: well, lights work best in the dark. And yeah, it was about 1° I think. 12:47 eythian Luckily I had wintery layers with me. 12:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:53 wahanui hi oleopard 12:54 LibraryClaire wahanui botsnack 12:54 wahanui :) 12:54 * oleonard wonders if giving wahanui a botsnack will train him to prefer a certain reply 12:56 LibraryClaire figured it was worth a shot :D 13:25 magnuse @wunder enbo 13:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 13:32 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz 13:32 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Jungerhalde, Konstanz, Germany is 2.6°C (2:28 PM CET on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). 13:34 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:34 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 0.5°C (8:33 AM EST on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 13:34 * oleonard should move to Norway 13:35 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams 13:35 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 10.0°C (2:31 PM CET on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 13:35 * eythian wins 13:36 * oleonard should move to Amsterdam 13:36 eythian I recommend it 13:37 * LibraryClaire likes KOnstanz 13:38 * oleonard should live in a caravan and travel Europe according to the weather 13:38 LibraryClaire :) 13:38 oleonard Please send wifi passwords 13:40 LibraryClaire essentials ^^ 13:52 Joubu Zeno, are you around? 13:52 Joubu I don't remember his nick 14:02 thd Is there a meeting now? 14:02 mkuhn I think so... 14:03 thd Was there a reminder sent to the mailing list? 14:03 mkuhn No 14:04 thd No reminder is a problem especially when we have been experimenting with different meeting times. 14:04 mkuhn https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_7_December_2016 says there is a meeting now 14:04 mkuhn OK so it seems we are the only ones in this meeting? 14:05 oleonard I think that means this meeting is postponed 14:05 thd If there are only two of us, that is not enough to hold a proper meeting. 14:06 mkuhn It's a good occasion to rename Koha or change the numbering of the versions ;-) 14:06 thd I think that a poor interpretation has been given to the information in https://framadate.org/3dAEB8zqQLzzTptD . 14:06 mkuhn What is this list, I have never seen this before 14:06 oleonard thd: That was specific to dev meetings I think 14:07 thd oleonard: The survey may have been introduced for development meetings but has been applied more generally. 14:08 thd mkuhn: One thing the survey needs is more data points. Please add you information if you would like to be considered. 14:08 thd s/you/your information/ 14:09 mkuhn I have done that already. But I'm definitely no friend of such lists which only complicate things (in my opinion). 14:10 thd A single most popular preferred time is never going to work because it always excludes some people. 14:10 oleonard A single time is never going to work because it always excludes some people. 14:11 oleonard However, multiple meetings haven't worked well in the past either. 14:11 oleonard So we're stuck with an imperfect system. 14:11 mkuhn Imperfect system means just, someone else is excluded. 14:12 thd The fatal trouble with only one "optimal" time is that some people can never attend which should be unacceptable. 14:12 Joubu I sent a "reminder" 2 days ago, in the "what's on" email 14:13 Joubu the goal was to find 2 optimal times, not just one 14:13 thd We need to have alternate times even if it is for different meetings to ensure that some people expressing an interest in participating are not systematically excluded. 14:13 Joubu and stop spending 15min at each meeting trying to find a slot for the next one 14:14 Joubu The survey highlights that 13 is excellent for lot of us, and we did not use so often this slot 14:14 thd Joubu, the use which I have seen of the survey is to pick the one time with the most favourable votes as the optimal time for multiple meetings. 14:16 Joubu alternate between 13 and 19-20 sounds almost perfect 14:16 thd Joubu: The survey has done well to help us think more scientifically about meeting times. 14:16 thd It seems that UTC 20 captures those excluded by UTC 13. 14:17 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza philippines 14:17 Joubu I don't think the time is the most important factor, trying to motivate people seems to be the big problem 14:17 oleonard schnydszch: sorry, the meeting doesn't appear to be happening. 14:17 oleonard schnydszch: We don't seem to have a quorum 14:17 thd Do we not have enough people for a meeting now? 14:17 schnydszch oopss sorry 14:18 schnydszch i thought i was late 14:18 mkuhn OK, so there is actually no meeting now? 14:18 thd oleonard: The agenda is small. 14:18 thd We could dispatch the agenda quickly. 14:19 thd oleonard: You could chair the meeting to ensure it goes quickly :) 14:19 schnydszch just looked at the logged, yeah. It was already posted in the Koha list, we've finally managed the venue sponsorship, so 2017 Kohacon in the Philippines is free 14:20 kidclamp I can chair, gimme a minute to get my notes together :-) 14:21 thd Joubu: Do you think that we should have an abbreviated meeting even to set the next meeting time to UTC 20? 14:21 Joubu meeting is coming 14:22 kidclamp Okay 14:23 thd schnydszch: Wait for the meeting to start so we can include your good news in the formal meeting log. 14:23 kidclamp #startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 December 2016 14:23 huginn Meeting started Wed Dec 7 14:23:01 2016 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:23 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:23 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_december_2016' 14:23 kidclamp #topic Introductions 14:23 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 14:23 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:23 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:23 barton #info Barton Chittenden, bws, Louisville, KY, USA 14:23 mkuhn #info Michael Kuhn, Admin Kuhn (Switzerland) 14:23 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza 14:23 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:23 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA 14:24 schnydszch #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines 14:24 rsantellan #info Rodrigo Santellan, Montevideo, Uruguay 14:24 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:24 kidclamp last call 14:24 kidclamp #topic Announcements 14:25 kidclamp Anyone have anything? khall? 14:25 khall yeah 14:25 khall Brendan wanted me to let everyone know we are starting a project to integrate RDF functionality into Koha! 14:26 khall First, we are looking into MARC to RDF conversion, then finding a suitable database 14:26 khall After that we'll work on indexing the data into Elastic, and getting the search working in Koha! 14:26 khall We hope to have something useful in 6 months or so 14:27 kidclamp #info ByWater is developing RDF for Koha 14:27 thd khall, have you added some content to the wiki describing your plans? 14:27 oleonard Related? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Linked_Data_RFC 14:27 caboose_ #info Michael Cabus, BWS princeton NJ...teaching web development but listening in 14:28 khall thd: I cannot say, I'm not involved in the project yet 14:28 kidclamp early stages thd, but as things progress we will add something to wiki 14:29 kidclamp any more announcements? 14:29 Joubu about ES, there is bug 17500 waiting for feedbacks and testing 14:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons 14:29 magnuse khall: some swedes are paying me to work in that direction - we need to talk! but now i gotta run. 14:30 thd There are multiple competing approaches to implementing RDF do you have a client for any particular one? 14:30 khall magnuse: yes, we are planning to get together! 14:30 kidclamp not yet thd, just starting research, any info you have would be appreciated, ping/email me after meeting 14:30 magnuse khall: and dcook is working on oai-pmh + rdf 14:30 khall thd: not that I'm aware of, we are still evaluating 14:31 khall sounds like we need to start a Koha RDF working group 14:31 magnuse yup 14:31 khall maybe a mailing list or such 14:31 magnuse andreas from SUB should be there too 14:31 kidclamp Joubu: do you know if that bug will work with ES2.X? I have been holding off testing until we upgrade 14:32 Joubu kidclamp: since it's basic indexing+searching it should work with both branches 14:32 kidclamp #info Discussion/Thoughts needed on using ES for patron search: bug 17500 14:33 kidclamp last call for announcements 14:33 kidclamp #topic Update on releases 14:34 kidclamp khall: any 17.05 info 14:34 kidclamp I don't think we have other maintainers here 14:35 khall Primarily pushing bugs to be backported at this time 14:35 khall I'll begin pushing enhancements more aggressively in the coming week or two 14:36 kidclamp Joubu? You mentioned some things in 'what's on' anything to emphasize? 14:36 khall cait has been backporting bugs for 16.11.01 14:37 Joubu kidclamp: just read it :) 14:37 kidclamp #info Kyle is pushing bug fixes at the moment, enhancements in the next week or so 14:37 cait yep i have :) 14:37 kidclamp #info cait is backporting needed fixes to 16.11.01 14:38 kidclamp #info read Jonathan's latest 'What's on in Koha devel' for more info 14:38 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:38 kidclamp #topic KohaCon 14:39 kidclamp schnydszch: updates? 14:39 wahanui updates are terrible 14:40 schnydszch As I've already said above, we have managed to have the venue for free, the main conference, we're still negotiating the two day hackfest. 2017 Kohacon will be free of charge 14:41 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2017 will have no registration fee - hackfest venue is in negotiations 14:41 schnydszch However, we have to change the date June 19-23 as agreed with the venue sponsor 14:42 schnydszch We are now opening call for sponsorships from the Koha community, you can email us at KohaCon17@gmail.com 14:42 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2017 dates are now June 19-23 14:43 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2017 seeking sponsorships - contact KohaCon17@gmail.com 14:43 schnydszch June 19-21 main conference, June 22-23 hackfest, still in Metro Manila 14:43 schnydszch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Manila 14:44 kidclamp #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Manila KohaCon 2017 location info 14:45 kidclamp comments anyone? 14:45 schnydszch formal letters to follow, to those who will be emailing for the call for sponsorships 14:45 schnydszch and also, the online preregistration is still the same as posted in the list 14:46 kidclamp #link https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23 KohaCon2017 registration 14:47 schnydszch thanks kidclamp 14:49 kidclamp can you send an email update to the mailing list schnydszch - or did I miss one? 14:49 kidclamp and if nothing else I will move on to KohaCon 2018 14:49 schnydszch we will update or post in the mailing list the details 14:50 schnydszch yeah nothing else from us 14:50 kidclamp #action schnydszch will send an update on KC 2017 to the mailing lists 14:50 kidclamp #topic KohaCon18 - Does it make sense to open bidding now? 14:50 thd I think that we should wait until January before opening bidding on KohaCon18. I offer to create a wiki page and announce it on the mailing list around the second week in January. 14:51 kidclamp that sounds reasonable to me 14:52 kidclamp no other comments? 14:54 kidclamp #action thd will create a wiki page and announce bidding second week in January 14:54 * kidclamp thinks a round of coffee is in order 14:54 kidclamp #topic Update: Marketing Group or Committee for spreading word about Koha 14:54 kidclamp anyone have info on this one? 14:56 kidclamp #info tabled until next meeting 14:56 kidclamp #topic Next Meeting 14:57 kidclamp January 4th, 20 UTC? 14:57 thd We have bee interpreting the meeting preferences survey https://framadate.org/3dAEB8zqQLzzTptD wrongly. 14:57 kidclamp discussion before this meeting seemed to indicate 13/20 alternating covers most people 14:58 kidclamp elaborate thd? 14:58 thd We should be more mindful of when people cannot come and not merely when most people prefer. 14:59 thd We also have no data from some people about maybe time or exclusion times which distorts or frustrates interpretation. 15:00 thd Yes, I think 2017-01-04 20 UTC would be good as an alternate even if it may work poorly for me personally. 15:00 oleonard thd: You think our survey misses people who want to come to meetings because they didn't take the survey? 15:01 thd oleonard: The survey is not widely enough known. 15:01 kidclamp #link https://framadate.org/3dAEB8zqQLzzTptD Meeting Time survey 15:02 thd The biggest problem is really, poor data with no maybe or exclusion times even worse than not enough data points from people who might attend. 15:02 oleonard We know neither how widely the survey is known nor how many people *don't* show for meetings because the chosen time is generally bad 15:02 kidclamp I think it has been posted to the lists several times, and I think the lists are where we should have more discussion on meeting times, since everyone can participate there 15:03 kidclamp otherwise is the already participating group deciding :-_ 15:03 oleonard In fact we don't know at all why people don't show up for meetings. Perhaps we should post a survey asking why people don't come to meetings? 15:04 Joubu I have posted the link at least 4x here on the channel, and during 3 months in the monthly email + extra email 15:04 Joubu I don't know what we can do to get more attention 15:04 Joubu and a survey asking why people don't answer surveys? 15:05 thd oleonard: We have tried to make times in the past which would be helpful to people in India and had almost no participation. We have to give most weight to people who have a tradition of attending, unless we have a new willingness to participate expressed from some underserved time zone. 15:05 oleonard Perhaps we should encourage people to add their apologies to the agenda so that we know who would have come if they could have 15:06 thd Joubu: Do you have a procedure for managing people who would vote again to give more complete or different times than previously? 15:06 thd oleonard++\ 15:07 kidclamp #action please add your name to apologies on the meeting wiki page if you wanted to attend but couldn't 15:07 kidclamp #action also, take the survey or respond on the list if current meeting times (rougly 13 or 20 UTC) are unworkable for you 15:08 thd Joubu: As survey owner can you replace the old info with new info if the same person votes again but does not remember or did not create a login? 15:08 Joubu thd: no you cannot edit a vote, but I guess I can remove lines as I have admin rights 15:08 thd Joubu: That is what I meant, good. 15:09 Nuentoter good morning everyone! 15:09 kidclamp #info resubmit meeting info to survey, previous votes can be removed by admin if you need to update 15:10 kidclamp going ahead with 20 utc for next meeting? 15:10 thd Joubu: You should encourage people with blue backgrounds to update their info and explain how they might do so even by adding a variant of their name after which you could mark out the old one. 15:11 Joubu thd: I already did all what I could to get attention on this survey 15:11 Nuentoter survey? 15:11 wahanui survey is not widely enough known. 15:11 kidclamp thd: would you send an email out to the lists with your suggestions? 15:11 thd Joubu: I mean that some people have given incomplete information. 15:12 kidclamp #info Next meeting: January 4th, 20 UTC 15:12 kidclamp last call for new topics, time can continue on lists 15:12 Joubu I don't understand how it could help to get reds instead of blues 15:13 thd In January I will send a message encouraging better info for the survey from some participants. 15:13 kidclamp #action thd will send a message encouraging better info for meeting time survey from some participants 15:13 kidclamp #endmeeting 15:13 huginn Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 15:13:45 2016 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 15:13 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/general_irc_meeting_7_december_2016.2016-12-07-14.23.html 15:13 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/general_irc_meeting_7_december_2016.2016-12-07-14.23.txt 15:13 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2016/general_irc_meeting_7_december_2016.2016-12-07-14.23.log.html 15:13 oleonard kidclamp++ 15:14 LibraryClaire kidclamp++ 15:14 oleonard Ruthless chairing. 15:14 kidclamp yeah, would have been nice to have druthb around 15:14 oleonard :P 15:14 khall kidclamp++ indeed! 15:14 * kidclamp ba-doom-sh 15:17 druthb ? 15:17 thd kidclamp: about RDF ... 15:17 kidclamp yeah yeah 15:18 kidclamp druthb: <oleonard> Ruthless chairing. - just being punny 15:19 thd kidclamp: I had been giving some attention to the issue and have been chasing down what various parties are doing for bibliographic data. 15:20 kidclamp thd: cool, I would be interested in whatever you have 15:20 thd kidclamp: I have been paying extra close attention since LC announced the BIBFRAME experiment which quickly morphed into the evolving BIBFRAME plan. 15:20 thd kidclamp: I see two major pitfalls. 15:22 thd kidclamp: The biggest pitfall is overly "hard coding" some particular RDF model such as BIBFRAME which may change in significant ways, or not be as easily extensible as had been intended. 15:24 thd kidclamp: Zepheria who developed BIBFRAME have been pursing BIBFRAME light with NLM, National Library of Medicine, and other libraries since their contract with LC ended. 15:25 kidclamp thd: agreed on wanting to maintain flexibility. Talljoy is our resident expert on the state of things so I am waiting to talk to her on our direction 15:25 thd kidclamp: BIBFRAME light is more agnostic about vocabulary choice. 15:26 kidclamp thd: do you have any references you can point me to specifically? 15:27 thd kidclamp: Koha and any library system may need its own special vocabulary to manage automation system data which is outside the scheme of common bibliographic data exchange. 15:29 thd kidclamp: Look at the various official BIBFRAME sites run by LC and details about the BIBFRAME light approach may be more difficult to track. I will try to find something from NLM over time. 15:29 thd kidclamp: The other major issue is scalability. 15:31 thd kidclamp: Speaking with the technical people embracing RDF and involved with the library world I do not have an answer to what happens with search and retrieval of RDF data with very large sets across multiple nodes. 15:33 kidclamp yeah, I think there will be some trial and error as it just isn't overly known - we will need community support for any architecture too so will be open as we investigate 15:33 thd kidclamp: A hazard with an insufficiently tested implementation is that some toy RDF store cannot cope with proper indexing of linked data and you could recreate the MARC broken into SQL components problem with the equivalent of too many DB joins needed for every query. 15:35 cait kidclamp++ 15:37 kidclamp thanks for tips thd 15:37 thd kidclamp: My description has underplayed the complexities of wars over vocabulary choice. There are more contenders and Koha should be able to work with any of them simultaneously as needed. We should avoid anything like the current situation where a $marcflavour variable commits your database to one particular model. 15:40 thd kidclamp: We should actually use RDF as a way around the $marcflavour problem to allow data from Dublin Core, MARC 21, UNIMARC, and other records to coexist nicely in the same DB. 15:41 kidclamp that would be a very nice situation 15:42 thd kidclamp: That is also a requirement for library automation systems serving the market in Taiwan which index both MARC 21 and CNMARC (based on UNIMARC) in the same system. 15:43 thd Unicorn does multi-MARC at some level. 16:05 reiveune bye 16:35 ccordova_ hello 16:42 ccordova_ I'm using koha 16.05 and I can not save the changes when I want to send a delay notice on tools> Overdue notice / status triggers the log shows me the following error. 16:42 ccordova_ http://paste.koha-community.org/189 16:42 ccordova_ And the email box is blank 16:42 ccordova_ https://snag.gy/1DnPoO.jpg 16:47 Joubu ccordova_: v16.05.05? 16:51 Joubu looks ok to me using 16.05.05 on a fresh DB, I am able to add overdue triggers. 16:53 Joubu not sure why branchcode would be ambiguous, it's only in the overduerules table (not overduerules_transport_types) 16:53 Joubu have to run, bye #koha 16:57 ccordova_ Joubu : yes 16.05.5 17:33 bag @weather portland or 17:33 huginn bag: The current temperature in Southwest Portland, Portland, Oregon is 1.2°C (9:24 AM PST on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory from 3 PM this afternoon to 4 PM Thursday... 17:36 edveal @weather lubbock tx 17:36 huginn edveal: The current temperature in Atkins Middle School, Lubbock, Texas is 3.2°C (11:36 AM CST on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 17:37 edveal bag chilly up there in OR. 17:37 bag yeah I am frozen! 17:38 edveal Not much warmer here in north west TX 18:43 tcohen @wunder portland, oregon 18:43 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Westerly, NW Portland, Portland, Oregon is 2.5°C (10:28 AM PST on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory from 3 PM this afternoon to 4 PM Thursday... 18:43 tcohen brrr 18:43 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 18:43 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 27.2°C (3:43 PM ART on December 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 19:35 tcohen anyone familiar with serials? 19:47 kidclamp lucky charms are my favorite tcohen 20:05 bag kidclamp++ 20:05 bag HA! 20:05 bag @seen cait 20:05 huginn bag: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 29 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <cait> kidclamp++ 20:52 wizzyrea hi 21:02 bag hi 21:02 wahanui what's up, bag 21:48 kchris alexbuckley++