Time  Nick            Message
22:47 huginn          tcohen: The operation succeeded.
22:47 tcohen          @later tell oleonard I've just added lessc to the kohadevbox, is there a specific version that we need? Please let me know, it seems to have installed 2.7.1
21:49 jenkins         Project Koha_Master_D8 build #60: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/60/
21:32 eythian         Itym oleopard
21:28 tcohen          oleonard: around?
21:05 huginn          tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 4 days, 15 hours, and 30 seconds ago: * dcook waves to cait1
21:05 tcohen          @seen dcook
21:05 tcohen          hi
20:04 cait            bye :)
20:04 tcohen          have to head home, BBL
20:04 tcohen          thanks cait
19:57 cait            tcohen: ok?
19:57 wahanui         jenkins is https://jenkins.koha-community.org
19:57 cait            jenkins?
19:57 cait            jenkins is https://jenkins.koha-community.org
19:57 wahanui         cait: I forgot jenkins
19:57 cait            forget jenkins
19:56 cait            not good=
19:48 tcohen          boo
19:48 wahanui         i heard jenkins was http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
19:48 tcohen          jenkins?
19:48 wahanui         ...but jenkins is http://jenkins.koha-community.org/...
19:48 tcohen          wahanui: jenkins is https://jenkins.koha-community.org
19:47 wahanui         tcohen: I forgot that
19:47 tcohen          wahanui: forget that
19:47 wahanui         jenkins is http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
19:47 magnuse         jenkins!
19:43 tcohen          hi jenkins
19:41 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
19:41 cait            @later tell drojf can you eat teff flour?
19:40 * cait          sends a muffin
19:40 cait            hate is such a strong word
19:40 tcohen          i hate jenkins
19:36 rangi           yeah badges are still broken
19:32 * tcohen        answers to himself, yes, and it is broken
19:30 tcohen          rangi: did u get my PR?
19:28 magnuse         fabio_teles: this might be bad timing for a very specific question like that. you might have more luck writing to the (devel?) email list
19:23 fabio_teles     Hello all. Does some have some information regarding Koha LDAPS authentication with Windows Server 2012 R2 that could share? We are trying to implement it on our University
19:20 * magnuse       waves
19:11 Nuentoter       morning folks!
19:08 * cait          waves
19:03 oleonard        Hi rangi
18:57 tcohen          morning rangi
18:56 rangi           morning
18:37 Nuentoter       people do christmas shopping BEFORE christmas? damn oops
18:14 cait            well done :)
18:14 oleonard        cait: I have started to think about starting to go christmas shopping
18:05 cait            needed to make 16.11 go green :)
18:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17733 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Members.t is still failing randomly
18:05 cait            bug 17733
18:05 cait            could someone sign off on 17733?
18:04 cait            oleonard: did you start yet?
18:04 cait            thx ;)
18:04 oleonard        Well done cait
18:03 cait            first round of christmas shopping done
18:03 * cait          waves weakly
18:02 tcohen          oleonard: just read your issue on kohadevbox
17:47 huginn          oleonard: The operation succeeded.
17:47 oleonard        @later tell tcohen Having trouble getting kohadevbox running on Win7: https://gitlab.com/snippets/32950
17:29 reiveune        bye
17:06 Nuentoter       good afternoon Koha peoples
16:53 oleonard        Vagrant keeps telling me '"rsync" could not be found on your PATH' but I'm on Windows, shouldn't it be using type 'Virtualbox?'
16:20 oleonard        tcohen around?
16:14 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:14 Joubu           @later tell cait bug 17733 should make Jenkins happy
15:28 LibraryClaire   laters koha
15:15 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:15 Joubu           @later tell cait it seems to be random failures again. I have managed to make it fail 1 time out of 100, so quite hard to recreate and debug...
15:13 edveal          Morning eveeryone
15:05 CPLKatie        Hello everyone, I'm trying to extract MARC records, but the batch won't extract from the Excel spreadsheet of bib numbers I've generated. Any ideas?
15:00 oleonard        Oh I see it tries to resume. I'll try again.
14:59 tcohen          the internet is against us today
14:59 oleonard        Yes
14:57 tcohen          downloading the vagratn box?
14:54 oleonard        "An error occurred while downloading the remote file...transfer closed with 148040155 bytes remaining to read"
14:44 oleonard        tcohen: So the kohadevbox uses a base Debian box and then Ansible automates the Koha-specific customizations?
14:41 * LibraryClaire thinks it would be useful
14:41 LibraryClaire   aha thanks
14:41 tcohen          I forgot about it
14:40 huginn          04Bug 9634: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports
14:40 tcohen          https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634
14:40 LibraryClaire   tcohen do you know what the bug was called? or a number
14:32 LibraryClaire   it also got upset when I tried to use SET ^^
14:31 LibraryClaire   bum
14:31 tcohen          so, I don't think it works
14:31 tcohen          LibraryClaire: I once filled a bug i didn't work on, with the idea of reusing variables
14:30 LibraryClaire   has anyone ever had any luck with trying to use user defined variables in SQL reports in koha? Am trying to reduce the number of times someone has to enter a date (currently at three) I've seen this: http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/10/21/variables-koha-reports/ but can't get the same principle to work for me :(
14:28 tcohen          it is not a two-way sync
14:27 tcohen          beware that the dir is rsynced the first time you load it
14:27 tcohen          yes
14:27 oleonard        tcohen: Ah right, so I could import from there
14:27 * magnuse       wanders off to eat porridge
14:26 tcohen          and it will be rsynced into /vagrant inside the box
14:26 tcohen          you can put it in the root directory for kohadevbox
14:26 tcohen          remember that if you have an SQL dump
14:25 tcohen          you can load your own DB
14:25 tcohen          OR
14:25 tcohen          you need to install yourself through the webinstaller
14:25 oleonard        So I'm new to the whole process.
14:25 tcohen          if you don't use SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1
14:25 magnuse         oleonard++
14:25 oleonard        tcohen: I'm finally giving kohadevbox a try, on Windows.
14:25 tcohen          BUT
14:25 tcohen          and the superlibrarian user you ocnfigured in user.yml (or just admin admin)
14:25 tcohen          you end up with  the sample data
14:25 tcohen          SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1 CREATE_ADMIN_USER=1 vagrant up
14:24 tcohen          if you load it using
14:24 tcohen          oleonard: what would you like to do?
14:23 magnuse         tcohen did lots of work on this after me, i am on bit of shaky ground here, i feel
14:23 magnuse         oleonard: you can populate the db in the devbox however you like, but with a fresh install you get the sample data, yes (or you run through the webinstaller and select what you want)
14:22 magnuse         if you have an existing test db you want to use, you have to dump it on the host, drag it into devbox and then load it into the db there
14:21 oleonard        So it's always sample data you're working with?
14:21 magnuse         oleonard: no, the db is entirely inside the devbox
14:20 oleonard        Is the typical process with kohadevbox that it uses an existing test database on the host machine?
14:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17717 normal, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm
14:17 StefanB         Anyway... Tried upgrading my Ubuntu to 16.04, turning off strict mode in the MySQL, and ran straight into Bug 17717. I'm a bit confused though, since this seems to be a change in perl (5.22 in the newer ubuntu, 5.18 in our older one). I wonder if CAS-client works in any way with 5.22.
14:15 StefanB         magnuse: Ok, I've heard of a mexican wave, but a norwegian, that's a new one. :)
13:56 LibraryClaire   magnuse: nice! :D
13:55 magnuse         LibraryClaire: something along the lines of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBE6uT1QE6k
13:53 barton          noice
13:53 tcohen          i have code
13:53 barton          tcohen: I like your second answer better :-)
13:52 tcohen          not yet
13:52 tcohen          barton: no
13:52 barton          is there any way to find the instance name via perl code?
13:52 LibraryClaire   hi barton
13:51 oleonard        Hi barton
13:51 barton          good morning #koha!
13:46 LibraryClaire   not you wahanui!
13:46 wahanui         hmmm... demo is at http://koha-community.org/demo/ or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases
13:46 LibraryClaire   demo please
13:46 magnuse         yeah, the old viking wave
13:45 * oleonard      watches in confusion as magnuse makes unintelligible hand gestures at StefanB
13:45 * magnuse       waves in norwegian to StefanB
13:44 magnuse         fixed bugs ;-)
13:44 oleonard        Now I know what magnuse wants for Christmas
13:44 Joubu           I don't remember which one I was trying to fix, arggg
13:44 magnuse         will it ever?
13:43 Joubu           not sure when it will finish
13:43 Joubu           I found one when trying to fix one
13:43 magnuse         Joubu: early xmas presents ;-)
13:43 Joubu           found too many bugs today...
13:37 daan            cait: thanks for the help. Maybe I´ll run some tests on one of the demoinstallations. bye
13:32 daan            cait: "no" to connect to user or wai/wcag?
13:32 oleonard        It may have been with menus which were generated 100% from Javascript
13:31 oleonard        The switch was from YUI to Bootstrap, but I don't remember what the issue with YUI was
13:30 cait            no
13:30 cait            well now menus and buttons all seem to work well
13:30 daan            Do you run any wcag/wai tests?
13:30 cait            in the past we had to change pull downs to links - before the switch from yui to jQuery UI (hope i am right, oleonard?)
13:30 daan            is it possible for me to connect to that user?
13:30 cait            we've always asked them pre-update to test in the new version - I don't know all they tested
13:29 cait            also searching and editing borrowers
13:29 cait            I think she also uses MarcEdit and the staged tool - but not totally sure about that
13:29 wahanui         i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
13:29 daan            ok, interesting
13:29 cait            item cataloguing
13:29 cait            and i know that she uses circulation, checkouts and returns
13:29 cait            we have been working with a library with a blind user
13:29 cait            we don't have anything official and no documentation as far as I know I am afraid
13:28 daan            hi cait
13:28 cait            hi daan
13:24 Joubu           testing days_between looks like the way to go
13:24 tcohen          for the updated functions
13:24 tcohen          I don't know how to write the test
13:23 tcohen          so it doesn't break in days_between
13:23 tcohen          it is makking the functions return floating tz
13:22 tcohen          but the patch is fixing it somewhere else
13:22 Joubu           yes, I read it
13:22 Joubu           the code on the comment looks ok to me
13:22 tcohen          my last comment on bug 16376
13:22 Joubu           tcohen: I did not get the question
13:21 tcohen          Joubu: ?
13:21 tcohen          I was trying to write the regression tests, but not sure how to do it
13:20 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16376 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Koha::Calendar->is_holiday date truncation creates fatal errors for TZ America/Santiago
13:20 tcohen          anyone has any thoughts on bug 16376?
13:20 daan            The functions in focus patrons, circulation, reports/statistics
13:20 daan            I´m helping a customer making decision about new ILS, they need the staff GUI accessible to work with screen readers.  I´m having trouble finding info about if Koha is accessible as default. Can you cait or someone else please point me to some resources or help me where to start
13:17 daan            cait: quick question on accessibility in koha staff interfaces
13:15 cait            i am not sure how to track this... all green for me
13:15 tcohen          it fixed it in master
13:15 Joubu           sorry, in the middle of 2 things already now
13:15 cait            thx
13:15 Joubu           will have a look later
13:14 Joubu           so it broke the tests...
13:14 Joubu           yes
13:14 cait            hm it's listed in the changes for this run : https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11.x_D8/changes
13:13 Joubu           yes but maybe jenkins is not using it yet? :-/
13:13 cait            http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/16.11.x
13:13 cait            i pushed 17713
13:13 Joubu           yes, should
13:12 cait            but shouldn't that fix the problem?
13:12 cait            hm
13:12 magnuse         ¡hola tcohen!
13:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17713 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Members.t is failing randomly
13:12 Joubu           cait: bug 17713?
13:12 LibraryClaire   hi tcohen
13:12 tcohen          morning
13:11 Joubu           t
13:11 Joubu           ha wai
13:10 Joubu           cait: certainly come from the data
13:10 cait            the tests seem to be using the testbuilder
13:10 cait            but the Member.t ones i have no explanation for
13:10 cait            tomas said to ingore the first one, because he forgot to set something up
13:09 cait            Joubu: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11.x_D8/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
13:09 atheia          oleonard I will adopt that bug.
13:09 cait            https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_16.11.x_D8/
13:09 cait            it's here
13:09 Joubu           searchengine=ES?
13:09 cait            sec, i will find the report
13:09 Joubu           cait: number of tests?
13:07 cait            do youhave any idea what that could be?
13:07 cait            Joubu: it looks like t/db_depenedent/Members.t is failing on my 16.11.x jenkins node... but it passes for me and tomas locally
13:07 oleonard        Oh, still no atomicupdate. Maybe "Failed QA"
13:06 oleonard        Should that bug be "Needs signoff?" The last comment is a patch.
13:06 atheia          Thanks for that will have a look.
13:06 atheia          Hello cait, Joubu!
13:06 Joubu           hi!
13:05 * cait          waves at Joubu and atheia :)
13:05 cait            yep
13:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , branchtransfer needs a primary key (id) for DBIx and common sense.
13:05 cait            i think ther eis abug for adding a key somewhere
13:05 Joubu           bug 14187
13:04 atheia          Does anyone know whether there is a reason why branchtransfers does not have such a column yet?
13:03 atheia          My intuition would be to add a new column to branchtransfers, a simple branchtransfer_id, which would become the primary key.
13:03 atheia          For this I need to interface with branchtransfers — and I noticed branchtransfers does not have a primary key.
13:02 atheia          We're developing a form of stockrotation (which is different from the existing rotating collections).
13:02 LibraryClaire   backwards waving
13:02 atheia          that's better :-)
13:01 * atheia        waves
13:01 atheia          \me waves
13:01 LibraryClaire   hi atheia :)
13:01 atheia          Good day Koha :-)
12:57 rsantellan      LibraryClaire: thanks
12:57 wahanui         ouch!
12:57 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:57 oleonard        wahanui is unpredictable
12:57 LibraryClaire   shush you
12:56 wahanui         LibraryClaire: what?
12:56 LibraryClaire   wahanui let me down
12:56 cait            (someone had to)
12:56 cait            hi oleopard :)
12:56 LibraryClaire   rsantellan: it doesn't leave an automatic notification anywhere.
12:55 wahanui         hi olé onard
12:55 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard
12:54 oleonard        Hi all
12:54 LibraryClaire   I think all it does it set the closed days for the library so you can set items to not be due or charged for on those days
12:51 rsantellan      LibraryClaire: on the intra is a message?
12:50 LibraryClaire   rsantellan: I don't think so, no
12:24 rsantellan      I have a question about tools/calendar, when setting a holyday does it show on the OPAC somewhere?
12:21 rsantellan      good morning #koha
11:15 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.8°C (12:10 PM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
11:15 eythian         @wunder jordaan, ams
10:49 eythian         heh
10:49 Joubu           eythian: but... what is this white stuff?
10:49 Joubu           eythian: lol
10:46 eythian         Joubu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJVTV6c8P8 :)
10:40 khall           thanks!
10:40 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17727 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , A lot of tests fail if SearchEngine is set to Elastic
10:40 Joubu           khall: Hi! I have opened bug 17727 for the failing tests we were talking about yesterday (if ES is set)
09:58 Joubu           better
09:58 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:58 Joubu           @later tell marcelr could you take a look at 17726 please
09:58 Joubu           [@later tell marcelr
09:00 AndrewIsh       hi LibraryClaire
08:59 LibraryClaire   hey AndrewIsh
08:57 AndrewIsh       good morn' #koha
08:49 magnuse         solstice in 15 days!
08:47 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:47 magnuse         @wunder enbo
07:56 * LibraryClaire waves
07:54 alex_a          hello
07:50 LibraryClaire   hi Fridolin ^^
07:49 fridolin        looks like Jack Frost is in the place
07:49 fridolin        + Freezing Fog
07:48 fridolin        LibraryClaire: whouuu cooooooooold
07:48 fridolin        hie tehre
07:48 reiveune        hello
07:44 LibraryClaire   actually pretty accurate
07:44 LibraryClaire   lol light freezing fog
07:44 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.3°C (8:40 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
07:43 LibraryClaire   @wunder Konstanz
07:43 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 4.0°C (8:41 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
07:43 eythian         @wunder Jordaan, ams
07:43 wahanui         niihau, eythian
07:43 eythian         Hi
07:42 magnuse         bonjour Joubu
07:42 LibraryClaire   hi Joubu!
07:42 Joubu           hi
07:42 magnuse         kia ora BüchereiKlara
07:42 LibraryClaire   hey magnuse
07:30 * magnuse       waves
07:23 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
03:07 mtj             sure, twas a silly statement
03:03 jcamins         Of course it's possible. Users and databases are independent.
03:01 * mtj           doesnt yet know if thats actually possible with mysql
03:01 mtj             hmm, DROP privs for its own db is OK tho? hey
02:56 jcamins         Oh, really? I thought I recalled being surprised and concerned to note that the Koha user had DROP privileges. Maybe not.
02:55 wizzyrea        not to drop it?
02:54 jcamins         Can't you use koha-mysql?
02:54 wizzyrea        I'll sort it out ;)
02:54 wizzyrea        the interns.
02:54 wizzyrea        well our interns
02:54 wizzyrea        (this is for my interns I'm trying to find a less painful way)
02:53 wizzyrea        yeah, devbox users don't have the mysql root password tho
02:47 mtj             sometimes a drop/create fixes the error
02:46 mtj             ..can be handy, when mysql gets stuck loading a db sometimes
02:44 mtj             wizzyrea: i do something like that from bash ^
02:44 mtj             mysql -u user -ppasswd  -e ‘ drop   database koha_xxx'
02:37 wizzyrea        hi what's your favourite way to drop the koha database in devbox? something with defaults-extra-file?
02:33 mtj             np wiz
02:32 wizzyrea        mtj: rangi is afk atm, and I can't seem to get into download
02:31 mtj             or wizzyrea, gmcharlt_, cheers :0)
02:30 jcamins         rangi: you're still needed.
02:29 mtj             ..for the logs :)
02:28 mtj             /mode mtj -G +g
02:28 mtj             the admins recommended seeting some /mode stuff, as a workaround
02:27 mtj             yeah, their was some message spam happening on OFTC, over the weekend
02:24 jcamins         mtj: also, you have your PMs silenced.
02:24 jcamins         mtj: whoops, don't think I can do that, sorry.
02:23 mtj             hi jcamins.. ill pm you
02:22 jcamins         mtj: what permission do you need changed?
02:15 mtj             ^ rangi perhaps?
02:15 mtj             hey #koha,  does anyone have root on the kc.org 'download' box? i need a quick perm change
00:15 tcohen          but at least it should point to the right place
00:15 tcohen          there's still stuff to be fixed on jenkins
00:15 tcohen          I sent a pull request on gitlab
00:07 tcohen          hi rangi