Time  Nick        Message
00:35 jcamins     Are any Koha people at re:Invent in Vegas this week?
00:36 * jcamins   is
00:43 wizzyrea    eythian: that looked like a pretty cool museum
00:43 wizzyrea    it would be neat to see ai weiwei's thing
00:43 wizzyrea    does it seem like a bug that "notes blacklist" doesn't hide notes from the marc view
00:43 wizzyrea    it does to me.
00:43 wizzyrea    (in the opac)
01:25 dcook       wizzyrea: I seem to recall "notes blacklist" being rather awful
01:26 wizzyrea    it is a bit, as it does both staff and opac
01:26 dcook       It should probably just be removed all together at some point
01:26 wizzyrea    and incompletely at that
01:26 dcook       Yep
01:26 dcook       i thought about using it once but then I wrote my own filter using the frameworks
01:27 dcook       I think mtompset got something pushed for that now though?
01:27 dcook       Or maybe it's still waiting for sign off..
01:27 dcook       I recall having an issue with the implementation..
01:30 dcook       libraries?
01:30 wahanui     libraries are the kings of overcomplication
01:30 dcook       hmm
01:30 dcook       true but not what i was looking for
01:31 dcook       Well look at that https://koha-community.org/about/libraries/
01:31 dcook       wizzyrea++
01:32 wizzyrea    you can add your libraries in a pull request
01:32 dcook       Oh and that doesn't even include any of ours yet..
01:32 dcook       Yeah, I thought our intern was working on that
01:32 wizzyrea    I don't have any merge requests currently ;0
01:32 wizzyrea    :)
01:33 dcook       I'll have to look at remedying that :D
01:34 dcook       I think maybe people don't all understand the Legacy ILS bit
01:35 wizzyrea    mmm I think they do
01:35 wizzyrea    in case you are referring to the ones that are listed as Koha
01:35 wizzyrea    I'd assume that whoever put them on community koha, or their most recent version, meant that the older version was their old system.
01:36 dcook       Yeah that's what I was meaning
01:36 dcook       But it's the same system, yeah?
01:36 wizzyrea    not necessarily.
01:36 dcook       When they upgrade to 17.05, would they then change it to 16.11?
01:36 dcook       I suppose Koha is not necessarily Koha that's true
05:00 jcamins     wizzyrea, notes blacklist has been broken forever
05:00 jcamins     i filed a bug a long time ago, i think
07:55 alex_a      bonjour
08:04 jajm        hello
08:11 cait        morning #koha
08:14 fridolin    hie there
08:23 cait        fridolin: do you know how the suspension days feature works?
08:23 cait        if you charge suspension instead of fines?
08:23 fridolin    cait: hie you
08:24 fridolin    cait: i know a bit
08:24 cait        do you know when the restirction is generated?
08:24 fridolin    if there is a late return, a suspension is created with an end date
08:24 cait        only on return or is there a way to do it while the books are still checked out?
08:24 fridolin    cait: i'm pretty sure it is on return
08:25 fridolin    it is based on debarrement days and grace period
08:25 fridolin    cait: only the script longoverdue.pl deals with too long checkouts
08:26 fridolin    but i'm not aware off all code in master
08:26 cait        that's still helpful thx
08:26 cait        so i think it's working
08:26 cait        just a bit different than i thought :)
08:32 gaetan_B    hello
08:36 cait        morning gaetan_B
08:36 cait        I just asked fridolin about suspension days
08:36 cait        my understanding is that they are only calculated on return of the items, right?
08:46 Joubu       cait: yes it's my understanding as well
09:03 AndrewIsh   @wunder machynlleth
09:03 huginn      AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, Machynlleth, United Kingdom is -4.9°C (9:03 AM GMT on November 30, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Steady).
09:03 AndrewIsh   brrrrr
09:04 AndrewIsh   mornin' #koha!
09:04 ashimema    mornin' 'koha
09:14 cait        thx Joubu
11:29 mtj         hi cait, i just spotted your comment on bug 10455
11:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10455 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , remove redundant 'biblioitems.marc' field
11:30 mtj         ..is it a incorrect thing for me to be setting those bugs to 'pushed to stable' status?
11:31 mtj         am i breaking some workflow for other people, perhaps?
11:35 Joubu       mtj: Heh, that's what I was also wondering :)
11:35 Joubu       I have no idea if it's our usual workflow neither if it is your job to do it
11:36 Joubu       I would expect the RM to update the statuses when the release is done, but not sure it's what we did for previous releases
11:37 mtj         hiya Joubu :)
11:41 cait        we don't do pushed to stable
11:41 cait        after release we do "resolved fixed"
11:41 cait        pushed to stable is for when something is pushed to a stable release from master
11:42 cait        so in this case it's not pushed to stable
11:42 cait        because it was released with the new release and never backported
11:42 cait        so yeah, pushed to stable = backported
11:42 mtj         hi cait, hmm yeah.. i see your point
11:43 cait        the rmaints set pushed to stable
11:43 cait        well... the first one to get there does currently
11:45 mtj         yep gotcha -  i'll correct the statuses on those bugs
11:46 mtj         thanks for the info :0)
11:47 cait        that's how i understand it at elast heh :)
11:56 mtj         cait: is there a particular person that sets bugs to 'resolved'?
11:57 cait        i've done it with rangi for the past releases
11:57 cait        setting stuff from the release before the current release to resolved closed and current one resolved fixed
11:57 cait        we turn off email from bugzilla for that
11:57 cait        it has not happened yet for this release
12:00 mtj         ok, sounds good
12:05 * Joubu     needs brainpower on bug 17699
12:06 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DateTime durations are not correctly subtracted
12:18 rsantellan  good morning #koha
13:30 kidclamp    morning
14:35 eythian     @wunder jordaan, ams
14:35 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.9°C (3:28 PM CET on November 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
16:10 edveal      Hello folks!
16:17 cait        hi edveal
16:44 ashimema    is anyone out there actually testing relevance of elastic search results vs relevance of zebra search results?
17:02 gaetan_B    bye
17:26 eythian     http://blogs.perl.org/users/mike_b/2016/11/security-release---use-after-free-in-dbdmysql-when-using-prepared-statements.html
17:27 eythian     ashimema: they will be different, most definitely.
17:29 ashimema    mmm
17:29 ashimema    they need allot of work
17:29 ashimema    side by side testing here show zebra out of box vs elastic out of box.. zebra win hands down for every query we tried
17:30 ashimema    been discussing with kidclamp in a private chat (didn't want to publically slate es).. but it's way further off production ready than I thought :(
17:30 eythian     It's quite tuneable in es, but perhaps nothing has been done for it
17:31 eythian     Eg you can specify how much importance you want various fields to have
17:31 eythian     If it's sorting equally across everything in the document, it'll be weird.
17:32 eythian     You probably want to boost title, author, etc.
17:33 eythian     What I'm saying is you should do this ;)
17:42 ashimema    I thought you might ;)
17:43 ashimema    time to clock off
17:43 ashimema    see you soon #koha
17:44 eythian     Bye
19:01 Nuentoter   hello and good afternoon everyone!
19:11 Nuentoter   Finally up and running with no hiccups so far! my god was transferring over our catalog horrible. People who do not understand the marc format should not be allowed to catalogue things ugghhh
19:43 eythian     Nuentoter: yup. I've seen some weird and wonderful cataloguing in my day.
19:44 eythian     "character sets? What does that even mean?"
19:47 * cait      waves
20:08 * Nuentoter waves back
21:25 talljoy     rangi++
21:26 rangi       ?
21:34 cait        rangi++
21:41 eythian     rangi+-
21:42 * eythian   confuses karma bots
21:42 rangi       heh
21:45 kidclamp    rangi++
21:45 kidclamp    I
21:45 kidclamp    I'll join that parade :-)
22:08 cait        eythian: are you there?
22:21 eythian     cait: am now
22:42 Nuentoter   good night everyone!
22:43 * dcook     blinks
22:50 * eythian   marquees
23:17 bag         @seen tcohen
23:17 huginn      bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi cait
23:54 talljoy     rangi i just submitted a patch on the documentation using gitlab.  do you see it?
23:55 talljoy     says it's "running" and the number is 43493f13
23:56 bag         awesome!!!
23:56 wahanui     That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
23:56 talljoy     hahaha
23:56 bag         I always pay up for that
23:57 talljoy     @later tell rangi i think i sent a commit/merge request for the manual via gitlab.  4349ef13??  let me know if i did something wrong or if you don't see it
23:57 huginn      talljoy: The operation succeeded.
23:59 talljoy     @later tell rangi ...well got a fail email.
23:59 huginn      talljoy: The operation succeeded.