Time  Nick            Message
00:19 dcook           It would be great if we actually had the REST API up and running...
00:19 * dcook         is hacking together something which just seems like a bad idea without it..
00:44 * Francesca     waves at dcook
00:48 * dcook         waves to Francesca
00:48 Francesca       sup dcook
00:51 dcook           Too much work and too little time :)
01:04 Francesca       that does not sound like a good combo
01:05 dcook           Nopes!
01:06 dcook           Surely it'll all work out in the end thoguh
05:20 dcook           I wonder sometimes how often we remove Perl dependencies
05:20 * dcook         sometimes wonders if Koha will just depend on all of CPAN one day
05:23 dcook           Interesting...
05:23 wahanui         hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:24 dcook           "Upgrade to 16.06.00.050 done (Bug 8835). Everything is fine."
05:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8835 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Two indexes on biblioitems.issn
06:53 ashimema        dcook
06:54 ashimema        the rest api 'IS' up and running
06:54 ashimema        you just need to add endpoints to it
06:54 ashimema        the cities endpoint is the best example so far
06:55 * ashimema      is encouraging documentation to be written, but there's a lack of experience around REST and API good practice in general.
06:56 ashimema        we're trying to answer the guidline questions to start with..
06:58 ashimema        like: Should we practice HATEOS? How REST should we go? What should we do with ID's? Why are we mimicking the database when REST gives us a means to create a clean departure from poor db design?  How far should we go in splitting up the specification files? Should we also be developing an RPC API in parallel for endpoint which don't clearly fit REST practices?
06:59 ashimema        How should we handle partial updates of resources? (PATCH with a specified patch format OR PUT on field level endpoints)
07:00 ashimema        dcool^
07:00 ashimema        dcook ^
07:26 reiveune        hello
07:26 wahanui         que tal, reiveune
07:43 fridolin        hie there
07:43 fridolin        cofeeeeeeeeeee
07:43 fridolin        thusday only, mhhh
07:45 eythian         @wunder Jordaan, ams
07:45 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 2.7°C (8:42 AM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady).
07:57 alex_a          hello
08:48 cait            can someone confirm adding library ean under plack is working for them on master? just tried and failed in 16.11.
10:08 * cait          waves
10:11 fridolin        16.11 is in the air
11:29 ashimema        caits evil cati1 twin is here again
12:22 vfernandes      hi #koha
12:23 vfernandes      one question: in acquisition module when ordering form a new record, the record is automatically created on the system?
12:23 vfernandes      *from a new record
13:22 oleonard        Hi #koha
13:43 rsantellan      good morning #koha
13:55 * kidclamp      waves
13:56 LibraryClaire   hey kidclamp
13:56 wahanui         kidclamp is rockin the stache
13:56 LibraryClaire   amazing
13:57 kidclamp        hah
14:10 * cait1         waves
14:10 cait1           LibraryClaire: got your delivery?
14:10 * LibraryClaire waits
14:10 LibraryClaire   no
14:10 cait1           boo
14:11 cait1           no call yet?
14:11 LibraryClaire   fyi sitting in a flat without furniture gets uncomfortable really fast
14:11 LibraryClaire   no
14:11 cait1           build a pile out of clothes?
14:11 LibraryClaire   sitting on a blanket
14:11 LibraryClaire   leaning against a radiator
14:12 cait1           hope they will be there soon
14:13 LibraryClaire   me too but the slot is until 9pm
14:13 LibraryClaire   so might be here abother 6 hours
14:15 * LibraryClaire debates the practicality of eating without plates or bowls
14:15 cait1           paper towels?
14:15 LibraryClaire   not sure pasta and sauce will go on a towel :D
14:16 cait1           eat out of the pot? :)
14:16 LibraryClaire   that is my current top option
14:17 LibraryClaire   or locate tupperware
14:22 kidclamp        mugs?
14:22 LibraryClaire   i have a couple of mugs
14:25 cait1           hm does someoen have experience with the fine days feature?
14:25 cait1           well suspension in days feature?
15:34 josef_moravec   khall: are you online?
15:34 khall           what's up?
15:34 josef_moravec   i would like to know your opinion on this idea:
15:35 josef_moravec   does it make sense to somehow refactor the code related to account types?
15:35 josef_moravec   for now, we have some hardcoded values and MANUAL_INV authorised values,
15:36 josef_moravec   but setting the manual_inv av is a bit weird
15:37 josef_moravec   i am thinking about a new db table accounttypes, with own admin page.... how do you like that idea khall?
15:37 reiveune        bye
15:38 khall           josef_moravec: that sounds good to me! though I'd name it account_types ; ) Also, think forward to having both custom fee types *and* custom payment types
15:39 josef_moravec   i have no problem with name account_types ;)
15:40 josef_moravec   khall: what do you mean by payment type? like: payment, forgive, write-off? Or like: cash, paypal, creditcard, ...
15:41 khall           the latter. Like cash, check, credit card, cans of food, etc
15:42 khall           it's a feature the original accounts rewrite has that I'd like to re-implement
15:42 josef_moravec   khall: that make sense to me, thanks!
15:42 khall           np!
15:42 josef_moravec   Yep, I remember you have a big amount of code in your original account rewrite
15:43 khall           yeah, I'm re-implementing it all bit by bit. Gotta get moving on that again! Couple of pqa patches ready for pushing, but we need to let master sit for a bit in case some bugs show up in 16.11
15:45 josef_moravec   khall: I'd like to collaborate on it, if you are not against it ;)
15:45 khall           josef_moravec: and it's always on my wish list for new features to be implemented using the API and AJAX rather than full page refreshes
15:45 khall           josef_moravec: absolutely!
15:46 josef_moravec   khall: absolutely agree!
15:46 josef_moravec   khall: do you have that react code you showed up in Marseille somewhere? What is your plan with it?
15:47 khall           josef_moravec: https://github.com/bywatersolutions/bywater-koha-devel/commits/cities_editor
15:48 khall           I'm still highly inclined that we go with React. I've gathered feedback from many people. It really seems like React is the best fit for us in ease of use and power
15:48 josef_moravec   khall: sounds good ;)
17:00 eythian         @wunder jordaan, ams
17:00 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.0°C (5:51 PM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady).
17:00 eythian         @wunder amsterdam, nl
17:00 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderdijk, Schiphol-Rijk, Netherlands is 2.2°C (5:58 PM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady).
17:00 eythian         weird
17:00 josef_moravec   khall: do you still think we should accountlines table split into account_credits and account_debits?
17:01 khall           it has pros and cons. At this point I don't think it's absolutely necessary.
17:22 josef_moravec   khall: yep, thanks
17:22 khall           it's just such a radical change that at this point I think it would cause more problems than it solves ; )
17:24 * cait1         wishes her mysql workbench would stop dying
17:27 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17344 - Followup to fix selectors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3128ee6953e3bde9f9851f7bf7e24aaa25db3b53> / Bug 17344 - Can't set guarantor in quick add brief form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e6be2f343c46867e83b70e245fb03838ecc560e>
17:48 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17670: Grammar mistakes - effect vs affect <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9191246b87da14fd0c2098bc3e9b189845dd68a4> / Bug 17577: Improve sample notices for article requests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0cb5c43dcb23d6e55914e6cfef8431bae8f4086> / Bug 17395 - exporting checkouts in CVS generates a file with wrong extension <http://git.koha-community.org
19:59 eythian         @later tell cait https://blog.kallisti.net.nz/2016/11/foam-fotografiemuseum-amsterdam/
19:59 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:59 eythian         @later tell wizzyrea https://blog.kallisti.net.nz/2016/11/foam-fotografiemuseum-amsterdam/
19:59 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
20:00 cait            thank you :)
22:00 dcook           @later tell ashimema All good questions I reckon. I know I'm struggling a bit with those very topics due to the structure of the existing system.
22:00 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:00 dcook           @later tell ashimema As for the REST API being up and running, it requires Mojolicious, yeah? But Mojolicious isn't a required module for Koha. Maybe I should look at the Debian packages rather than the source though... with a install from source there's no REST API.
22:00 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:01 dcook           @later tell ashimema At least no REST API out of the box. If the Debian packages have it out of the box, maybe I should be developing with that in mind...
22:01 huginn          dcook: The operation succeeded.