Time  Nick          Message
00:01 wizzyrea      hehe hi and sleep well
00:08 dcook         2020?
00:10 wizzyrea      KohaCon, the anniversary edition.
00:11 wizzyrea      Bring it home, as they say.
00:44 jcamins       wizzyrea: pfff. I'm looking forward to KohaCon: the Reunion Edition in 2038.
05:57 * magnuse     waves
06:22 * BobB        waves to magnuse
06:22 magnuse       kia ora BobB!
06:22 magnuse       how goes it?
06:22 magnuse       guten morgen BüchereiKlara!
06:22 LibraryClaire hey magnuse
06:22 magnuse       Oak
06:22 Oak           magnuse
06:22 magnuse       \o/
06:23 Oak           \o\
06:23 LibraryClaire my IRC client is messing around and won't let me on - w as checking to see if it was me or the channel
06:23 LibraryClaire seems to be me
06:23 magnuse       |o|
06:24 LibraryClaire star wars :D
06:24 magnuse       /o/
06:24 magnuse       yay
07:29 * cait        waves
07:29 cait          kidclamp++
07:39 cait          in the web chat... irc client is giving me trouble too
07:39 cait          Joubu: around?
07:45 Joubu         cait: yep
07:46 cait          i have a question about bug 15881
07:46 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15881 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Serials new numbering pattern link should be a toolbar button
07:47 cait          i am not sure i get how this works
07:47 reiveune      \o/
07:48 Joubu         cait: Wrong bug number? :)
07:49 cait          yes
07:49 cait          as always
07:49 cait          sorry the web chat is odd
07:49 cait1         oh
07:49 cait1         ok, my client connected finally
07:49 cait1         the bug is bug 15581
07:49 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a circ rule to limit the auto renewals given a delay
07:50 cait1         i want to work on this one today, but I am a little confused
07:50 cait1         the current behaviour was:
07:50 cait1         10 days loan period, 3 days before you can renew, so the auto renewal would start trying 3 days before the due date
07:51 cait1         can you give me an example of the new behaviour?
07:51 cait1         i have read the bug notes... but not quite getting it yet
07:51 Joubu         cait1: there are 3 or 4 different bugs related to auto renew
07:51 cait1         i know, this is the top one
07:51 Joubu         and each of them add a new behavior
07:52 cait1         and the only one in qa so far :(
07:52 nlegrand      Hey #koha!
07:52 Joubu         cait1: 'For instance, if the issue date is 10 days before today, and
07:52 Joubu         no_auto_renewal_after is set to 10, tomorrow the issue won't be auto
07:52 Joubu         renewed.'
07:52 nlegrand      {sct}U2FsdGVkX1/hPe10EXM/CrUvueTqSkHC8PmlikpFyMIYuvKIPMx2UdGCZfr1pBS42I4+T4s4rLwVf3YQLxT6mQF0/kckvLaFZcBjCZdeuxQ=
07:53 cait1         hm let me try and rephrase that
07:53 Joubu         cait1: Is not ok?
07:53 cait1         i think it's the other direction that makes this hard for me
07:53 nlegrand      oups sorry
07:53 cait1         i'd have stuck to the 'before due date'
07:53 Joubu         there is another no_auto_renew_after_hard_date
07:53 Joubu         or something
07:53 wahanui       something is probably sketchy
07:53 cait1         because one value is after issue date and the other is before due date
07:53 cait1         and that confuses me
07:54 Joubu         which does the same, but with a hardcoded date
07:54 cait1         someone was real serious about auto renewals
07:54 cait1         do you know the use case?
07:54 wahanui       the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date
07:54 nlegrand      I meant: cait1, are you multitasking yourself ? cait1 is chatting while cait2 is developping and cait3 is QAing? :)
07:54 cait1         i am not quite understanding what the goal is so far
07:54 cait1         nlegrand: trouble with the irc client earlier :)
07:55 Joubu         cait1: I misunderstood the need, that's why this patch exists...
07:55 cait1         wahanui: forget use case
07:55 wahanui       cait1: I forgot use case
07:55 Joubu         the initial need was bug 16344, and I developped 15581
07:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a circ rule to limit the auto renewals given a specific date
07:56 cait1         hm
07:56 Joubu         so not to dropped the code, I submitted
07:56 Joubu         I thought it would make sense to someone
07:56 cait1         with my example
07:56 cait1         10 days of loan period, 3 days before you can renew
07:56 cait1         what would be a good testing setting for the 'don't auto-renew after'?
07:57 Joubu         42?
07:57 cait1         um
07:58 cait1         *confused*
08:00 Joubu         I don't know, I imagined that a library would want to block auto renew after a given period
08:01 cait1         hm
08:01 Joubu         cait1: does 16344 make sense?
08:01 cait1         i could imagine a setting of 'allow only 2 auto renewals" or something like that
08:03 Joubu         cait1: Feel free to let a not on the bug report if you disagree on the feature
08:03 Joubu         note*
08:03 cait1         still not sure i grasp it yet hm
08:04 cait1         maybe i leave a note and ask for use case / explanation?
08:04 cait1         would LIbraryClaire know maybe?
08:04 cait1         hm could i read it like that:
08:05 cait1         after 42 days on loan, an auto renewal is no longer possible
08:05 cait1         ?
08:05 cait1         independent on how long the initial loan period was and how many renewals happened in between?
08:09 Joubu         cait1: yes you should ask her
08:10 Joubu         cait1: it's based on the issue date, so yes it would work
08:11 Joubu         basically the patch just does: if issue date + delay > today then do not auto renew
08:12 cait1         hm ok
08:12 cait1         > is after right?
08:12 cait1         so issue date plus days delay gives you a date
08:12 cait1         and if that date is after today... then not renew?
08:12 cait1         sorry, trying to decrypt it for my brain :)
08:16 Joubu         yes exactly
08:23 cait1         ok thx!
08:28 eythian       @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
08:28 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 12.9°C (10:24 AM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising).
08:28 eythian       it was really foggy out there
08:35 * cait1       got sun :)
08:55 magnuse       @wunder enbo
08:55 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
11:37 fridolin      hie there
11:37 fridolin      i add issues with my chat client this morning
11:49 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:49 Oak           hello oleonard
12:17 * kidclamp    waves
12:21 magnuse       hiya kidclamp
12:22 kidclamp      hello magnuse
12:40 tcohen        morning
12:43 magnuse       hm, is the "summary" on item types not working?
12:49 tcohen        hi magnuse nengard
12:49 tcohen        magnuse, have you seen my koha-zebra patches?
12:50 magnuse       hola tcohen nengard
12:50 magnuse       tcohen: no, don't think so
12:52 tcohen        bug 17467 and bug 17468
12:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , There should be a koha-zebra script to handle Zebra daemons for instances
12:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Remove koha-*-zebra scripts in favor of koha-zebra
12:52 tcohen        i would really love to have you looking at it
12:58 Joubu         @later tell drojf could you tell me again why WWW::CSRF is not packaged yet?
12:58 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:00 eythian       Joubu: I suspect that "because you haven't done it yet" could be an answer ;)
13:00 Joubu         heh yes, maybe
13:00 Joubu         But he answered me something about this package last month, but cannot remember
13:01 Joubu         don't remember if it's "do not have the time yet" or something more complicated
13:17 Joubu         Is someone with a kohadev box + mysql around?
13:20 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17375: Search by dateofbirth - handle invalid dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b34b07d62588713405f31481cb363661b1a5d0c> / Bug 17375: Search by dateofbirth - Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12167c57d0608637504a011627a0256e28e515cd>
13:44 rsantellan    good morning, I have a question about the method haspermission on the class C4::Auth, why it uses the userid instead of the borrowernumber?
14:02 pastebot      "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: root" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149
14:03 pastebot      "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: kohadev" (34 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150
14:03 Joubu         thx!
14:10 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14874 - DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=239b81c1dd0cfa2e5e1f720ba9b8554536a9bc44> / Bug 14874: Set default DefaultPatronSearchFields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87f21ae2452b4fbeddcc26f8ff2a7427add3710c> / Bug 14874 - Add ability to search for patrons by date of birth from checkout and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
14:14 eythian       @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
14:14 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 15.5°C (3:59 PM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
14:14 eythian       that's actually kinda warm
14:44 khall         @later tell cait will the inc file on bug 17374 be translatable?
14:44 huginn        khall: The operation succeeded.
14:45 tcohen        khall: it doesn't seem so
14:46 khall         thanks tcohen!
14:46 tcohen        i'm asking bgkriegel
14:54 tcohen        khall: he's checking right now
14:54 khall         thanks!
14:55 tcohen        it is not translatable, official answer from bgkriegel
14:57 tcohen        khall: can u take a look at bug 17004
14:57 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17004 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , REST API: add route to authenticate patron (Single Sign On - SSO)
14:57 khall         sure!
14:57 tcohen        I'm tempted to QA on it so we can have it for 16.11
14:58 tcohen        it might need some tweaks to match the new style/guideline
14:59 tcohen        khall: regarding translatability for strings
14:59 tcohen        I suggest you take a look at permissions.inc
15:00 khall         tcohen: loving 17004 please qa!
15:00 tcohen        will do
15:00 tcohen        :-D
15:00 khall         excellent!
15:01 ashimema      returning a cookie via a rest route is the oposite of rest
15:02 * tcohen      is all ears
15:02 * ashimema    continues to read the bug
15:03 tcohen        kivilahtio: around?
15:03 kivilahtio    tcohen: exhausted from all the Ansbileing
15:03 tcohen        how is that possible?
15:03 tcohen        ansible is awesome :-P
15:03 kivilahtio    there are peculiarities with Ansible
15:03 kivilahtio    it is often wuite heard to know how you should pass in variables exactly
15:04 reiveune      bye
15:04 kivilahtio    it is often quite hard to know how you should pass in variables exactly
15:05 kivilahtio    like hostvars[inventory_hostname]['toveri']['apiKey']
15:05 kivilahtio    tcohen: but I try my best to like it, It is very good tool
15:06 kivilahtio    tcohen: just so many things to remember
15:06 * ashimema    steps back from the rest auth route.. I could loose weeks in there.. if it gets pushed, it gets pushed...  it just 'feels' wrong somehow
15:06 kivilahtio    ashimema: I already wrote a REST auth route :)
15:07 kivilahtio    ashimema: https://github.com/KohaSuomi/kohasuomi/blob/kohasuomi3.16/Koha/REST/V1/Auth.pm
15:09 kivilahtio    tcohen: I especially like the configuration mangement aspect. Had I know it is so good. It isn't immediately obvious when you quickly try to compare different server automation technologies
16:43 cait          kidclamp: around?
16:43 kidclamp      cait: somewhat
16:43 wahanui       hmmm... somewhat is not the adjective I would use
17:20 newb          newby question...  i can't find the difference between koha 16 and koha 3.  can anyone help?
17:21 newb          and which would be better for a beginner?
17:37 kidclamp      koha 16.05 is just 3.24
17:37 kidclamp      we changed the naming conventions
17:38 kidclamp      newb^
17:50 newb          perfect, thank you!
19:03 kchris        I am trying out the kohadevbox, and am getting a "guest machine entered an invalid state". Any suggestions for troubleshooting this beyond what it on GitHub?
19:06 kidclamp      did you try halting and restarting the box?
19:06 kchris        Yes, I did.
19:09 kchris        In the user.yml, I only uncommented and set values for bugzilla username and password. And I have not set a value for SYNC_REPO.
19:10 tcohen        kchris: that's woth vagrant up? or are you trying xenial?
19:14 kchris        tcohen: yes, that's with vagrant -up trusty--I am using trusty.
19:15 tcohen        i'd suggest thqat you enable the GUI in the vagrantfile
19:15 tcohen        to check why it is failing
19:17 kchris        I first got an error that my machine "doesn't support NFS" and installed nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server.
19:18 tcohen        yews
19:18 tcohen        on the host machine, the one running the virtual one
19:18 tcohen        but then, your virtual machine is not booting
19:20 kchris        Right, I did install on the host machine, rather than the virtual machine. But the error message must apply to the virtual one...
19:21 tcohen        open the Vagrantfile
19:21 tcohen        on your favourite editor
19:22 tcohen        and below the line saying
19:22 tcohen        vb.customize ["modifyvm...
19:22 tcohen        write
19:22 tcohen        vb.gui = true
19:22 tcohen        save the file
19:22 tcohen        and then
19:23 tcohen        vagrant destroy trusty
19:23 tcohen        vagrant up trusty
19:23 tcohen        this will create a fresh new one
19:23 tcohen        with a GUI terminal
19:23 tcohen        in which you will notice the problem
19:23 tcohen        hope it helps
19:24 tcohen        you should use jessie
19:24 tcohen        anyway
19:24 tcohen        because 14.04 is based on wheezy
19:24 tcohen        which is basically no longer supported as of 16.05
19:26 tcohen        kchris: still here?
19:26 wahanui       rumour has it here is where I work
19:29 kchris        tcohen: yes, thank you. I edited vagrantfile.
19:31 kchris        tcohen: I set vb.gui = "true" (used quotation marks). I may need to change that.
19:31 kchris        Then,  vagrant destroy trusty
19:31 kchris        then, vagrant up jessie
19:32 tcohen        if you are switching to jessie, it will certaintly work
19:32 tcohen        ah
19:32 tcohen        wait
19:32 tcohen        wait
19:32 tcohen        what is the processor your computer has?
19:32 kchris        just got the invalid state error message. again.
19:33 tcohen        if you are on a 32bit setup, it wont work no matter what you do
19:34 kchris        Iits 32bit.
19:34 tcohen        right
19:34 tcohen        .-(
19:35 eythian       Why doesn't it work in 32 bit?
19:36 kchris        So I can't use kohadevbox on this setup at all?
19:36 tcohen        the default setup uses the official debian boxes
19:37 tcohen        there are no 32 biits ones
19:37 tcohen        but you can try
19:37 tcohen        searching for some
19:37 tcohen        look for debian/jessie64 on the Vagrantfile
19:37 tcohen        replace that with some other Debian Jessie
19:37 tcohen        32 bits
19:37 tcohen        there was a 'bento' one I recall
19:38 tcohen        need to head home now friends
19:39 tcohen        if you manage to run it in 32 bits
19:39 tcohen        please let me know so we document it, or fix it in kohadevbox
19:39 kchris        tcohen: thanks. So trusty won't work either, right?
19:39 tcohen        it should, if you try 32
19:39 tcohen        ubuntu/trusty32
19:39 tcohen        it is worth trying
19:39 kchris        okay.
19:40 tcohen        the problem with kohadevbox right now
19:40 tcohen        is that it points to 64bit images
19:40 tcohen        just edit it and point it to a 32 bit
19:40 tcohen        i could work flawlessly
19:40 tcohen        havent tried!
19:40 tcohen        bye #koha
19:41 kchris        I'll give it a whirl.
20:06 eythian       Ah I see. It should be more generic, what if I wanted to use ARM :)
22:08 Radius_CZ     Hi all, I'm working on bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17492
22:08 Radius_CZ     When I run koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1, I'm still getting this failure:
22:08 Radius_CZ     FAIL	koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/circulation.tt
22:08 Radius_CZ     OK	  forbidden patterns
22:08 Radius_CZ     OK	  git manipulation
22:08 Radius_CZ     OK	  spelling
22:08 Radius_CZ     OK	  tt_valid
22:08 huginn        04Bug 17492: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rbit, Failed QA , Show warning if patron's age is out of category limits
22:08 wahanui       i guess spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation?
22:09 Radius_CZ     FAIL	  valid_template
22:09 Radius_CZ     Attempt to reload Koha/Template/Plugin/Koha.pm aborted.
22:09 Radius_CZ     Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/Template/Plugins.pm line 206.
22:09 Radius_CZ     What am I doing wrong?
22:09 cait          hm
22:09 cait          i am not sure actually
22:10 cait          is it possible you are missing some dependency?
22:10 cait          are you running the tool in kohadevbox by chance?
22:11 Radius_CZ     I don't think there should be any dependency issue. At least I don't know what one. I run the tool for the first time today. Other files are OK.
22:12 cait          was it there from the beginning? because i think marc didn't get that
22:13 Radius_CZ     Do you mean beginning of the tool results?
22:13 cait          i was wondering if you are running it on the patches with the tab problems marc noted earlier
22:13 cait          are those patches online? i could check in my installation with the tools
22:13 Radius_CZ     yes, all the pathces as at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17492
22:13 huginn        04Bug 17492: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rbit, Failed QA , Show warning if patron's age is out of category limits
22:14 cait          i will check one moment
22:14 Radius_CZ     thanks
22:15 cait          hm it's all ok for me
22:15 cait          how is your installation set up?
22:16 Radius_CZ     I have my kohadevbox installed from Marseille with Alex, if you mean this :-) No special changes in it.
22:17 cait          ah ok
22:17 cait          how did you run the qa script?
22:17 cait          what i do in the kohadevbox is:
22:17 cait          sudo koha-shell kohadev
22:17 cait          qa -c 2 -v 2
22:17 Radius_CZ     a was at /home/vagrant/kohadevbox and then
22:17 Radius_CZ     ../qa-test-tools/koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1
22:18 cait          hm yeah
22:18 Radius_CZ     oh I see!
22:18 cait          try from the koha-shell
22:18 cait          and with the shortcut
22:18 cait          i will keep fingres crossed :)
22:18 Radius_CZ     I should run koha-shell kohadev…
22:20 Radius_CZ     Processing files before patches
22:20 Radius_CZ     rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘/tmp/opac-sco-sco-main.pl.pc’?
22:20 Radius_CZ     …probably "yes", but I don't know why is it asking for it…?
22:20 cait          hm no idea
22:20 cait          is it a local file maybe? the file ending looks odd
22:21 cait          i didn't have that happen so far
22:21 Radius_CZ     probably, answering "yes" :-)
22:21 Radius_CZ     well, computer doesn't agree with me:
22:21 Radius_CZ     rm: cannot remove ‘/tmp/opac-sco-sco-main.pl.pc’: Operation not permitted
22:23 Radius_CZ     I was at anothe branch by mistake. Now everything's fine. Thank you, Kat :-)
22:23 cait          np, glad it works now :)
22:27 bag           hiya Radius_CZ
22:27 Radius_CZ     Hi :-)